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Re: portable copy of NVDA

Jujube
 

Hi Don, Unfortunately you can't have NVDA portable start automatically once you plug in the thumb drive. This is a windows limitation. I personally turn on Narrator to help me start NVDA portable.


On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I have generated a portable copy of NVDA 2021-2 and it works well.
My question is there some way to make it auto load NVDA when the thumb
drive is plugged in?
Thanks






Re: portable copy of NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Don


Sorry no not from a USB stick.


If I remember right under auto play settings for a CD version  it needs to be set to play or install it is right down the bottom of the list.

This is more on your own pc or some ones elses computer that has it already set.


Then the CD version worked but if not it would not.


The USB side stopped back in windows 7 if I remember right so you have to do other work rounds.


If using a public net work they might have exe blocking software which will stop nvda from working.


Over here a few years back that is what happened and when explained to these networks I was blind and use it  they done testing then installed it to those networks that are up on my website for libraries in new zealand.


If trying to help out some one see what works for you I also like the qqq one depending how they have the windows explorer screen set or is it called file manager or my pc depending on your windows version.



The following page from off my web site will show you how to do it from a CD as well as a USB stick on another computer.

The link is http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html


The USB side if new to using it on another computer is start up narrator locate the stick then start nvda then turn off narrator.


There are other ways up on the website look for the sections to do with USB or CD at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

On 11/11/2021 7:26 am, Don H wrote:
I have generated a portable copy of NVDA 2021-2 and it works well.
My question is there some way to make it auto load NVDA when the thumb drive is plugged in?
Thanks




Re: Persian Speech Synthesizer?

 

Well vocaliser by code factory has one.

Eloquence may have one however I don't know much about that.

There are none from microsoft as far as I have noticed.

On 11/11/2021 7:44 am, Clement Chou wrote:
Helping a friend set up a computer tomorrow and teaching some of the
basics. She's a native farsi speaker and wants to be able to work with
both languages. anyone got a lead on a farsi speech synthesizer for
NVDA? Free is better, but anything will do. Thanks!




Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

Chris
 

It looks like its to turn them on in stable versions only

Doesnt look like you can turn them off in test versions

 

 

 

 

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 10 November 2021 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] error tones playing wen NVDA is loading

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 01:06 PM, Chris wrote:

I think you can now turn them off under nvda advanced settings

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I don't see anything there that controls this.   If there is somewhere that the end user could turn these off, that would be good to know.

But, and it's an important but, because the betas don't ship with the error tones turned off, it's important that those who do choose to try out a beta "don't freak" every time they hear an error tone played, because they almost certainly will even before you'd have any chance to turn off this feature if that's possible.

For those who use beta versions regularly, we just get used to paying attention to how NVDA is behaving rather than giving those tones much credence.  For myself, I'd leave them on just to remind myself that I am using a beta and to update to release once it hits.  To each his or her own.
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NVDA error sound in beta version

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

hi friends, can you guys tell me why the NVDA error sound is played in beta or alpha version?


Persian Speech Synthesizer?

Clement Chou
 

Helping a friend set up a computer tomorrow and teaching some of the
basics. She's a native farsi speaker and wants to be able to work with
both languages. anyone got a lead on a farsi speech synthesizer for
NVDA? Free is better, but anything will do. Thanks!


Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

I believe it’s only for stable versions from 2021.3 that this feature will be available            

 

Do correct me if I’m wrong in any way.

Best regards.

Francisco.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] error tones playing wen NVDA is loading

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 01:06 PM, Chris wrote:

I think you can now turn them off under nvda advanced settings

-
I don't see anything there that controls this.   If there is somewhere that the end user could turn these off, that would be good to know.

But, and it's an important but, because the betas don't ship with the error tones turned off, it's important that those who do choose to try out a beta "don't freak" every time they hear an error tone played, because they almost certainly will even before you'd have any chance to turn off this feature if that's possible.

For those who use beta versions regularly, we just get used to paying attention to how NVDA is behaving rather than giving those tones much credence.  For myself, I'd leave them on just to remind myself that I am using a beta and to update to release once it hits.  To each his or her own.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: portable copy of NVDA

Christopher Duffley
 

Not that I know of. I wish there was a way that this could happen, unless they can find a way to make it so that a program can autoload like a CD/DVD drive would.

Christopher Duffley
Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971

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On Nov 10, 2021, at 13:26, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I have generated a portable copy of NVDA 2021-2 and it works well.
My question is there some way to make it auto load NVDA when the thumb drive is plugged in?
Thanks






Re: portable copy of NVDA

 

No, at least not unless you want to open up a can of worms security wise with re-enabling autoplay under Windows.

This was recently discussed, at length, in the topic Making Portable NVDA.
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 01:06 PM, Chris wrote:
I think you can now turn them off under nvda advanced settings
-
I don't see anything there that controls this.   If there is somewhere that the end user could turn these off, that would be good to know.

But, and it's an important but, because the betas don't ship with the error tones turned off, it's important that those who do choose to try out a beta "don't freak" every time they hear an error tone played, because they almost certainly will even before you'd have any chance to turn off this feature if that's possible.

For those who use beta versions regularly, we just get used to paying attention to how NVDA is behaving rather than giving those tones much credence.  For myself, I'd leave them on just to remind myself that I am using a beta and to update to release once it hits.  To each his or her own.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


portable copy of NVDA

Don H
 

I have generated a portable copy of NVDA 2021-2 and it works well.
My question is there some way to make it auto load NVDA when the thumb drive is plugged in?
Thanks


Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

Chris
 

I think you can now turn them off under nvda advanced settings

 

 

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: 10 November 2021 15:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] error tones playing wen NVDA is loading

 

Well, I guess that would explain it.  this is the first time I have taken the plunge and used a beta/RC version.  That would be why I haven't heard them before. :)

 

Dan Beaver

On 11/10/2021 10:38 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Probably nothing.  The Beta versions play error tones for "non-critical" errors.  I've never used a beta where I don't get error tones on many occasions when, from a functional perspective, nothing is going wrong.

If you look at the detailed logs for most software there are rafts of non-critical errors.  And NVDA release candidates and released versions do not report these via those tones while the testing versions do.
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 

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Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 10:46 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
this is the first time I have taken the plunge and used a beta/RC version.
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Just to be clear, I think the RC versions have the non-critical error tones turned OFF just like the actual released software does.  It's only alpha/beta versions that present these.

And we're all new to everything we've ever done once.  It's a perfectly logical concern that if you're hearing error tones to believe that critical errors may be occurring.  But most of the time they are not if you are not experiencing any issue in how the software is behaving.  You just get used to ignoring these in the betas until or unless something "blows up" right after you hear one.  Then you start NVDA again with debug logging enabled, try to blow it up again, and if you can create an issue report with the logging information on GitHub for the NVDA developers.  That doesn't happen all that often.
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

Gene
 

The JAWS cursor is a way of moving around the screen and it moves the mouse as you move.  You are talking about that as being activated on the numpad in the JAWS desktop layout.  It has nothing to do with the feature that announces keys and their functions.  Both JAWS and NVDA have this feature.  The command is the same in each.  Its JAWS key 1 in JAWS and NVDA key 1 in NVDA.  In both cases, it is a toggle. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 10:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Cursor Help Ct.
 
Hi NVDA,

I did not feel shamed or put down by any of the responses seen, eleven in total.
I seem to recall though that with Jaws, which I used in the early
2000s, review mode was on the keyboard to the right of the function
keys, top row, rather than f1 or some other variance thereof.
Anyhow, knowing capslock 1 will do the trick is welcomed knowledge by
me, thanks.

As to the issue of how to know the difference between a laptop and or
desktop keyboard, I did not know the presence or absence of the numpad
was the determiner.
The Disability Answer Desk person based their answer on appearance. A
desktop PC is a tower. An all-in-one is not a tower but resembles more
that of a laptop.
I guess that is the ongoing debate in the computer world from
comparing discussions. I I am grateful to each of you for your input
on this matter!

--
David C. Russell, Author
david.sonofhashem@...
Life is made up of sobs, sniffles, and smiles, with sniffles
predominating. (O. Henry)





NVDA Cursor Help Please

David Russell
 

Hi NVDA,

I did not feel shamed or put down by any of the responses seen, eleven in total.
I seem to recall though that with Jaws, which I used in the early
2000s, review mode was on the keyboard to the right of the function
keys, top row, rather than f1 or some other variance thereof.
Anyhow, knowing capslock 1 will do the trick is welcomed knowledge by
me, thanks.

As to the issue of how to know the difference between a laptop and or
desktop keyboard, I did not know the presence or absence of the numpad
was the determiner.
The Disability Answer Desk person based their answer on appearance. A
desktop PC is a tower. An all-in-one is not a tower but resembles more
that of a laptop.
I guess that is the ongoing debate in the computer world from
comparing discussions. I I am grateful to each of you for your input
on this matter!

--
David C. Russell, Author
david.sonofhashem@...
Life is made up of sobs, sniffles, and smiles, with sniffles
predominating. (O. Henry)


Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

Dan Beaver
 

Well, I guess that would explain it.  this is the first time I have taken the plunge and used a beta/RC version.  That would be why I haven't heard them before. :)


Dan Beaver

On 11/10/2021 10:38 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Probably nothing.  The Beta versions play error tones for "non-critical" errors.  I've never used a beta where I don't get error tones on many occasions when, from a functional perspective, nothing is going wrong.

If you look at the detailed logs for most software there are rafts of non-critical errors.  And NVDA release candidates and released versions do not report these via those tones while the testing versions do.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 09:36 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually I use laptop mode in the desktop layouts, always.
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And, Sarah, in that regard you are most definitely an outlier.  But, if that's what you prefer, more power to you!  There's nothing wrong with doing that.

The main point I was trying to make earlier is that the original poster seemed to believe that the choice of keyboard layout was somehow dictated by the type of computer that an external keyboard is connected to rather than the layout of the keyboard itself, and also seemed by indirect implication to be far more familiar with the desktop layout and struggling to learn laptop layout.

If you've got a full-sized keyboard with numberpad then, if it's what you prefer, then you can and should use desktop keyboard layout no matter what that keyboard is attached to or built-in to.  But, if you always prefer laptop layout, and are used to it, then you can certainly use it with a full-sized keyboard, but it's never necessary to use it with one.  But if you have a true laptop keyboard sans number pad and that's what has to be used then laptop layout is the only option.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: error tones playing when NVDA is loading

 

Probably nothing.  The Beta versions play error tones for "non-critical" errors.  I've never used a beta where I don't get error tones on many occasions when, from a functional perspective, nothing is going wrong.

If you look at the detailed logs for most software there are rafts of non-critical errors.  And NVDA release candidates and released versions do not report these via those tones while the testing versions do.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: goldwave became very slugish with nvda

Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
 

Try going to preferences, visual tab, and make sure the minimum DB fft size is set to two, next edit box at 20, then keep hitting the tab key and be sure everything is set to blank or none. When you come to any edit boxes with numbers, arrow up or down and be sure the lowest number is displaying. Hope I've explained that ok. I've had the same issue and Chris at Goldwave helped me with my issue. Now that I've made it as clear as mud, good luck lol!!! If I can be of any further help, email me off list. 


On Nov 10, 2021, at 5:48 AM, Ikrami <blindathlete6@...> wrote:



Hi, I was using goldwave normally  with NVDA and its addon, and it has been working great until recently  when it started to become very slow when I move through audio with the arrow keys. It can take a second or 2 to jump, regardless of the zoom amount, which  makes working with it a real pain. I am not sure if I accidentally changed something that triggered this behavior.

Any help will be appreciated.

 


error tones playing when NVDA is loading

Dan Beaver
 

I am running Windows 10 latest update and NVDA latest Beta version.


When NVDA loads I am hearing a 2 tone sound like to piano keys being struck so that it goes from high to low.


I have looked in the log and am seeing some errors but when I disable the plug-ins that seem to be associated with the errors the tones still play.


Any idea what this might be and what I should do next?



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