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locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Sam Bushman
 

I personally think the effort and the content in the video was fantastic. Thank you for producing helpful content.

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

 

I completely agree with Gene. The critical nature of some of the posts here continue to amaze me.

On 11/12/2021 4:31 PM, Gene wrote:

I didn’t think it was too long.  The thing that took time in the video was discussion of things related to the first command.  It discussed how to pin and unpin programs from the task bar and how to get programs in the order you want.  Just giving the command itself would have been inadequate.  The other material was necessary in discussing that command for people to use it well. 

 

I think the quality of instruction is good and so is the technical quality. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:07 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

 

I thought the video was way too long for the infor  it presented.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: November 12, 2021 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

What a poor tactic to gain more views for your video!
You could of said which hotkeys in your post, or at least what is the function of them.

On 11/12/21, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:
> I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard
> shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster
> and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you
> knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
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Re: espeak NG

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

actually i always used max voice which is the default but my question was which english voice to use, i am now using american english

Em sex., 12 de nov. de 2021 às 21:28, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> escreveu:

thanks! I liked the max voice with American English, for my language, I used the same voice, max.

Em sex., 12 de nov. de 2021 às 19:37, Gene <gsasner@...> escreveu:
You will have to try different voices to see.  Different people have very different preferences when it comes to synthesized speech. 
 
As you move from variant to variant, the name of the variant is announced in the voice of the variant.  that may be enough to help you rule out some you don’t want.  I doubt, for example, that you will want to use Anxious Andy except, perhaps, as a novelty.
 
Gene
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak NG
 
hi friends, i want to use NVDA as english but espeak NG has many english voices, and i want to know which english voice is the best
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Brian Vogel
 
Edited

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 07:25 PM, Richard Wells wrote:
The critical nature of some of the posts here continue to amaze me.
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Amen!  And it's not even constructive criticism, but of the, "This doesn't meet my preferences!!," type whining.  Your preferences are not what determines how others make content that they're giving away, freely.

If anyone ever wants an example of the old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished," they should be pointed to this topic.

For the love of heaven, show a bit of gratitude for someone creating content that's focused on your own community and that does it well!
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: espeak NG

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

thanks! I liked the max voice with American English, for my language, I used the same voice, max.

Em sex., 12 de nov. de 2021 às 19:37, Gene <gsasner@...> escreveu:

You will have to try different voices to see.  Different people have very different preferences when it comes to synthesized speech. 
 
As you move from variant to variant, the name of the variant is announced in the voice of the variant.  that may be enough to help you rule out some you don’t want.  I doubt, for example, that you will want to use Anxious Andy except, perhaps, as a novelty.
 
Gene
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak NG
 
hi friends, i want to use NVDA as english but espeak NG has many english voices, and i want to know which english voice is the best
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Richard Wells
 

I completely agree with Gene. The critical nature of some of the posts here continue to amaze me.

On 11/12/2021 4:31 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn’t think it was too long.  The thing that took time in the video was discussion of things related to the first command.  It discussed how to pin and unpin programs from the task bar and how to get programs in the order you want.  Just giving the command itself would have been inadequate.  The other material was necessary in discussing that command for people to use it well. 
 
I think the quality of instruction is good and so is the technical quality. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier
 
I thought the video was way too long for the infor  it presented.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: November 12, 2021 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

What a poor tactic to gain more views for your video!
You could of said which hotkeys in your post, or at least what is the function of them.

On 11/12/21, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:
> I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard
> shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster
> and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you
> knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
>
>
>
>
>
>
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Mary Otten
 

Amen. Sad, really. Just give the info and never mind a video; for blind people???

On 11/12/2021 1:41 PM, Hareth wrote:
What a poor tactic to gain more views for your video!
You could of said which hotkeys in your post, or at least what is the
function of them.

On 11/12/21, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:
I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard shortcuts
with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster and easier. Did
you know these? Check it out and let me know if you knew
these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Brian Moore
 

I knew this but this is great and you have lots of other very useful things on your channel.  Thank you for creating this.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 2021-11-12 4:49 p.m., Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:

Bee,

I had known about these keystrokes, but I’d forgotten about them. Thank you for refreshing my memory.

Ben

On Nov 12, 2021, at 14:13, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:

I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s

Re: espeak NG

Gene
 

You will have to try different voices to see.  Different people have very different preferences when it comes to synthesized speech. 
 
As you move from variant to variant, the name of the variant is announced in the voice of the variant.  that may be enough to help you rule out some you don’t want.  I doubt, for example, that you will want to use Anxious Andy except, perhaps, as a novelty.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak NG
 
hi friends, i want to use NVDA as english but espeak NG has many english voices, and i want to know which english voice is the best
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Gene
 

I didn’t think it was too long.  The thing that took time in the video was discussion of things related to the first command.  It discussed how to pin and unpin programs from the task bar and how to get programs in the order you want.  Just giving the command itself would have been inadequate.  The other material was necessary in discussing that command for people to use it well. 
 
I think the quality of instruction is good and so is the technical quality. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier
 
I thought the video was way too long for the infor  it presented.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: November 12, 2021 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

What a poor tactic to gain more views for your video!
You could of said which hotkeys in your post, or at least what is the function of them.

On 11/12/21, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:
> I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard
> shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster
> and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you
> knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
>
>
>
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Re: espeak NG

Jujube
 

Hi, As I've said before, speech synthesizers are a significant personal preference thing. I suggest that you browse through all the eSpeak variants, and I promise that you'll be able to narrow it down to a select few within no time. I suggest that you try the following variants: Edward and Edward2, all the klatt voices, male 1-8, female 1-5 or 6, all Iven variants. Hope this helps.


On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 2:15 PM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi friends, i want to use NVDA as english but espeak NG has many english voices, and i want to know which english voice is the best
locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

Clement Chou
 

NVDA does support Japanese braille, I use ot with a braille sense
polaris and it reads with no issues. :) As for the TTS, that's all
well and good except I don't know of any legal way to get the version
that has the extra languages.

On 11/12/21, Ben J. Bloomgren <godsquad@...> wrote:
I will take a look at the Narrator voices, but I’d like to offer another
option to you, provided that it’s not a Nono to do it on the list. The IBM
TTS has Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin Chinese voices along with some
others. Now we just need to have NVDA implement Japanese braille. Then, we’d
be in like flint.

Ben

On Nov 10, 2021, at 02:58, juergenkohler23@... wrote:

Hello,

is there a free Japanese TTS engine for NVDA (e.g. a SAPI4 or SAPI5
voice)? I would be very happy to receive answers!

Many thanks and best regards
espeak NG

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

hi friends, i want to use NVDA as english but espeak NG has many english voices, and i want to know which english voice is the best
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Monte Single
 

I thought the video was way too long for the infor it presented.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: November 12, 2021 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

What a poor tactic to gain more views for your video!
You could of said which hotkeys in your post, or at least what is the function of them.

On 11/12/21, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:
I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard
shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster
and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you
knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

I will take a look at the Narrator voices, but I’d like to offer another option to you, provided that it’s not a Nono to do it on the list. The IBM TTS has Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin Chinese voices along with some others. Now we just need to have NVDA implement Japanese braille. Then, we’d be in like flint.

Ben

On Nov 10, 2021, at 02:58, juergenkohler23@... wrote:

Hello,
 
is there a free Japanese TTS engine for NVDA (e.g. a SAPI4 or SAPI5 voice)? I would be very happy to receive answers!
 
Many thanks and best regards
locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Bee,

I had known about these keystrokes, but I’d forgotten about them. Thank you for refreshing my memory.

Ben

On Nov 12, 2021, at 14:13, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:

I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s

locked Re: Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

Hareth <hareth4m@...>
 

What a poor tactic to gain more views for your video!
You could of said which hotkeys in your post, or at least what is the
function of them.

On 11/12/21, TheeQuinn Public <theequinnpublic@...> wrote:
I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard shortcuts
with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster and easier. Did
you know these? Check it out and let me know if you knew
these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
locked Use these 4 Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to Navigate faster and easier

TheeQuinn Public
 

I just posted a new video. I use these 4 awesome Windows keyboard shortcuts with NVDA to make navigating your applications much faster and easier. Did you know these? Check it out and let me know if you knew these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcuFjsn0wWw&t=11s
Re: Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Sarah k Alawami
 

It can be. Not for me all the time but when my lefthand decides to brake, and it has happened, I hardly have the energy or the strength to do that double press if I need to. What I would do is post your suggestion on the github, come up with a very good use case, then see comments there as well.

 

Good luck.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

 

i agree with you brian

 

Em sex., 12 de nov. de 2021 às 12:59, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 08:19 AM, Gene wrote:

It would be an execution nightmare.  First, how does Windows know what your intent is?

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It wouldn't be Windows determining the intent, but NVDA.

Ignoring sticky keys, which is a separate function of its own, when the CAPS LOCK key is used as a modifier key I cannot think of a time when that would not involve what would easily be "timeable" as a long-press or require CAPS LOCK along with another key (as it is the modifier).  A very quick single press of CAPS LOCK meant to be used as CAPS LOCK is something NVDA could likely detect and pass through because it would be a very quick strike.

Personally, I don't think this is really necessary as CAPS LOCK is not, generally speaking, a commonly used key, unlike shift.  On the rare occasions where you really want CAPS LOCK and it's being used as the NVDA modifier key a quick double press does not seem too difficult to accomplish.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

i agree with you brian

Em sex., 12 de nov. de 2021 às 12:59, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 08:19 AM, Gene wrote:
It would be an execution nightmare.  First, how does Windows know what your intent is?
-
It wouldn't be Windows determining the intent, but NVDA.

Ignoring sticky keys, which is a separate function of its own, when the CAPS LOCK key is used as a modifier key I cannot think of a time when that would not involve what would easily be "timeable" as a long-press or require CAPS LOCK along with another key (as it is the modifier).  A very quick single press of CAPS LOCK meant to be used as CAPS LOCK is something NVDA could likely detect and pass through because it would be a very quick strike.

Personally, I don't think this is really necessary as CAPS LOCK is not, generally speaking, a commonly used key, unlike shift.  On the rare occasions where you really want CAPS LOCK and it's being used as the NVDA modifier key a quick double press does not seem too difficult to accomplish.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: Improvements to the caps lock key and the NVDA key

Brian Vogel
 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 08:19 AM, Gene wrote:
It would be an execution nightmare.  First, how does Windows know what your intent is?
-
It wouldn't be Windows determining the intent, but NVDA.

Ignoring sticky keys, which is a separate function of its own, when the CAPS LOCK key is used as a modifier key I cannot think of a time when that would not involve what would easily be "timeable" as a long-press or require CAPS LOCK along with another key (as it is the modifier).  A very quick single press of CAPS LOCK meant to be used as CAPS LOCK is something NVDA could likely detect and pass through because it would be a very quick strike.

Personally, I don't think this is really necessary as CAPS LOCK is not, generally speaking, a commonly used key, unlike shift.  On the rare occasions where you really want CAPS LOCK and it's being used as the NVDA modifier key a quick double press does not seem too difficult to accomplish.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
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