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win 10 power settings

Don H
 

Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there. Am I missing something?


Re: what is NVDA RC for

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

thank you very much for taking this question away

Em sáb., 13 de nov. de 2021 às 18:20, Gene <gsasner@...> escreveu:

RC stands for release candidate.  It will be released as it is as a stable production version unless bugs are found that need correction.  RC releases are the releases before the production release and are the latest in the development cycle before production releases.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 2:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] what is NVDA RC for
 
I know alpha has big bugs, and should never be installed main NVDA...beta has fewer bugs, and can be tested as main NVDA.but what about RC? it seems to me a lot with a stable version, so much so that NV access itself tells everyone to install, so my question remains... what is NVDA RC for?


Re: acapela not working on sign on screen with NVDA

 

Hmph, one reason not to get that software then.

To be honest I have often wandered about getting something better than microsoft defender but have not done so.

I have bgt programs, old visual basic programs and stuff microsoft chooses to detect as problematic.

So I have excluded my data drive, and my 2 backups which are used for backups as well as several folders on my hard drive, mostly programs.

So any blind game, or any blindness related anything is excluded because I just don't trust defender that much.

Even with this done I have had to manually exclude and allow certain files through manually.

And for now that works.

Sometimes if I need to keep the backups in for a longer time than normal, I turn off protection completely, do my business then turn it back on again.

The backups generally are not on for more than 10 minutes a day if that sometimes barely a minute or 2.

I have no real trust for antivirus or anti malware software and if I could do without it I probably would.

Thing is I know I need it, but its annoying enough that I have read several hacker articles to make it not work ever again.

Every time its gotten bad I have seriously conciddered making it go away for ever!

I have always managed to get round the issue in a round about way but even so I am glad its foollishness has not spread to my data drive.

I guess if push came to shove I could say no to several older apps and that would be the end of it but when it hits a lot of software who knows.

I have of course reported several apps when I had the last issues but doubt microsoft security ever read those as I never got any responce.

There isn't anything going on anymore but I am to scared to test that theory.

Plus my experience with microsoft has really make me mistrustfull of bits of it.



On 14/11/2021 4:23 am, Kenny Cheung wrote:
Hey,
I was able to get the voices to work. I had to exclude the NVDA folder in %appdata% for malware bytes to not detect it as a virus.

Sent from Kenny’s iPhone

On Oct 18, 2021, at 08:51, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well so far, no response from acapela support. I may try finding someone from their company on linkedin and maybe try contacting them that way. 


Re: what is NVDA RC for

Gene
 

RC stands for release candidate.  It will be released as it is as a stable production version unless bugs are found that need correction.  RC releases are the releases before the production release and are the latest in the development cycle before production releases.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 2:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] what is NVDA RC for
 
I know alpha has big bugs, and should never be installed main NVDA...beta has fewer bugs, and can be tested as main NVDA.but what about RC? it seems to me a lot with a stable version, so much so that NV access itself tells everyone to install, so my question remains... what is NVDA RC for?


what is NVDA RC for

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

I know alpha has big bugs, and should never be installed main NVDA...beta has fewer bugs, and can be tested as main NVDA.but what about RC? it seems to me a lot with a stable version, so much so that NV access itself tells everyone to install, so my question remains... what is NVDA RC for?


locked Admin's Note: Eloquence, Tutorials, Providing Feedback and Answers to Questions #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello all,

I'm seeing some trends lately that I feel need addressing. If you disagree, please send emails to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io, as this topic will be locked.

  • Eloquence: This topic has been discussed to death. Unless you are using a purchased copy of Eloquence, or you obtain it by purchase, it is not legal, and will not be discussed here. NVAccess is on board with this. Please do not post anything re any free Eloquence add-ons, libraries, etc. Anyone repeatedly doing so will be placed on moderated status, and continued violations may result in a ban. Cracked software in general is not permitted on Groups.io, and certainly not here.
  • Recently, an individual posting tutorials to this list received some unkind feedback. Whether feedback is legitimate or not, the individual in question is taking time out of their day to create helpful tutorials for the benefit of us all, and any individual doing that does not deserve the treatment they have received on this list. Moreover, sending tutorials to this list is permitted, as long as content pertains to NVDA. Usually, there is no reason to provide a response to such a post. If future tutorials are sent and are greeted with the kind of reception that this past one received, we may very well inact a policy that any posting of tutorial will immediately be locked.
  • This list aims to be a helpful resource. We have surpassed 1,500 members, and everyone is here to engage in the wider NVDA community. When posting, please reflect whether your post adds value to anything being discussed. There are a couple of individuals who post who don't typically contribute much value to anything they post. Please reflect on what you are posting, and ask yourself what your message adds to a discussion. If it is simply a one-line two-word message, it is likely not necessary. Also, I do believe that each individuals should be responsible for doing a bit of research whenever they post a query, and it is good practice to say what research you have done, or what things you've tried so that we don't cover ground you've already covered. It is also incumbent on each person to try to read through an entire thread before responding, to make sure that they know what has been answered. Moreover, while research is encouraged and requested, if your only response is to tell someone to "Google it" without providing links to references, your post is not welcome, as it simply isn't helpful. It's fine to point someone to resources. It is not okay to simply tell someone to Google it. If everyone Googled things, read the manual in its entirety, and listened to existing tutorials, we would have very little to no traffic, and this list would likely not have a reason for existing.

Thanks everyone.

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Thank you, and have a great day!


locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

 

Topic locked.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

 

On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 10:28 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
but if you are learning for the first time you may want more human sounding voices rather than a 20-year-old IBM-tts which is public domain
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Josh,

We're done here.  You know very well, from private exchanges, that your assertion about "public domain" are false.  You were warned not to do this.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

Josh Kennedy
 

the version of IBM-tts with the extra languages is on IBM's public ftp software site and you need filezilla to get at it well filezilla is easiest for me anyway and you can get filezilla from ninite.com ... 


locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

Josh Kennedy
 

but if you are learning for the first time you may want more human sounding voices rather than a 20-year-old IBM-tts which is public domain because support for that old sapi4 product has long since ended. I guess you could use IBM-tts if you want to, after all, its free for the taking from IBM's public ftp site. Or you could buy vocalizer because it has Japanese voices also.


Re: acapela not working on sign on screen with NVDA

Kenny Cheung
 

Hey,
I was able to get the voices to work. I had to exclude the NVDA folder in %appdata% for malware bytes to not detect it as a virus.

Sent from Kenny’s iPhone

On Oct 18, 2021, at 08:51, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well so far, no response from acapela support. I may try finding someone from their company on linkedin and maybe try contacting them that way. 


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

here are all the options that are on my braily lines list! note that they will be in brazilian portuguese, but i hope it helps

brlttyhedo MobilLine USBhedo ProfiLine USBHIMS séries Braille Sense/Braille EDGE/Smart Beetle/Sync BrailleHumanWare BrailleNoteHumanWare Brailliant série BI/B / BrailleNote TouchLinhas braille Baum/HumanWare/APH/OrbitLinhas braille Handy TechLinhas braille SeikaLinhas EcoBrailleLinhas Eurobraille Esys/Esytime/IrisMDV LilliModelos mais antigos da linha Papenmeier BRAILLEXModelos mais recentes da Papenmeier BRAILLEXNattiq nBrailleSeika NotetakerSuperBraille


note that I don't use braily, I just copied the default list that comes up when I press CTRL+NVDA+a

Em sáb., 13 de nov. de 2021 às 09:50, Blake Roberts via groups.io <BEarlRoberts=aol.com@groups.io> escreveu:

Brett,
What HumanWare braille displays do you have? You could have a Brailliant BI as I do, but I don't want to assume.

If your HumanWare display is a Brailliant BI, have you tried resetting the device by holding down the power button on the Brailliant for 10 seconds? In the device settings (the settings on the braille display itself, not NVDA), is the protocol set to HumanWare or OpenBraille? I would suggest trying to switch protocols on your braille display and/or resetting the device. Then see if NVDA can detect it.


Blake


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

Brett,
What HumanWare braille displays do you have? You could have a Brailliant BI as I do, but I don't want to assume.

If your HumanWare display is a Brailliant BI, have you tried resetting the device by holding down the power button on the Brailliant for 10 seconds? In the device settings (the settings on the braille display itself, not NVDA), is the protocol set to HumanWare or OpenBraille? I would suggest trying to switch protocols on your braille display and/or resetting the device. Then see if NVDA can detect it.


Blake


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Gene
 

Did you reboot since this problem started?  As with other odd problems with no known solution, rebooting is one of the first things to try.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues
 

I wish I could help you more. I hope someone else comes along and can give you more assistance than I am able.

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 2:00 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

No, same problem.

I’m only seeing a limited list of displays, I’m sure there are a lot more including human ware which I know longer see.

bb

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Things working as they should now?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 1:32 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Now I’m running the beta that was suggested. I originally had the public release.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

What version of NVDA are you running?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 12:06 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.

 

I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Felix G.
 

Hello,
have you tried restarting NVDA with addons disabled? An addon might
interfere with the procedure of assembling your list of Braille
display drivers.
Are we talking about the list that you get when pressing NVDA+CTRL+a?
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 13. Nov. 2021 um 08:18 Uhr schrieb cisco <audiogamer2004@...>:


Hello there,



These might be a few questions and suggestions that might help you:

Have you been using NVDA for long? If so, did this issue appear in 2021.2? or, have you just installed 2021.2 for the first time and got this error?
Have you installed the drivers relating to Humanware displays? I don’t know if there are any, but installing drivers might help your issue.



Hope these two things help.

Best regards.

Francisco.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues



Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.



I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

These might be a few questions and suggestions that might help you:

  • Have you been using NVDA for long? If so, did this issue appear in 2021.2? or, have you just installed 2021.2 for the first time and got this error?
  • Have you installed the drivers relating to Humanware displays? I don’t know if there are any, but installing drivers might help your issue.

 

Hope these two things help.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.

 

I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Firstly what are your displays.

Secondly, if you run a portable of the new nvda beta check for updates then rerun the older version it should fix it.

There is an python console import command and an addon but others may have the information, its round 8 pm and I am to lazy to look for all that but its somewhere in the archive I think.

From my cloud file backup the instructions are the following.

nvda root certs issue
From python console, nvda shift z paste.
import updateCheck; updateCheck._updateWindowsRootCertificates()

If you paste that import line in that will fix it.

Its got to do with expired certs and other complex things I forgot its fixed in latest betas of nvda.

Do you have drivers for all your displays and are they installed.

If neither of those work or they are to old, if you install brltty and all the usb libraries and run all displays in brltty mode or open braille mode I think its going to at least work.

I haven't much experience but the local university gave me an orbit 20 to test.

And the only way I was able to get it working at that stage was in brltty mode though I did use the native driver.



On 13/11/2021 6:06 pm, Brett Boyer wrote:

Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.

 

I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

 

I wish I could help you more. I hope someone else comes along and can give you more assistance than I am able.





On 11/13/2021 2:00 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

No, same problem.

I’m only seeing a limited list of displays, I’m sure there are a lot more including human ware which I know longer see.

bb

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Things working as they should now?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 1:32 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Now I’m running the beta that was suggested. I originally had the public release.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

What version of NVDA are you running?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 12:06 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.

 

I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Brett Boyer
 

No, same problem.

I’m only seeing a limited list of displays, I’m sure there are a lot more including human ware which I know longer see.

bb

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Things working as they should now?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 1:32 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Now I’m running the beta that was suggested. I originally had the public release.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

What version of NVDA are you running?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 12:06 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.

 

I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Things working as they should now?





On 11/13/2021 1:32 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Now I’m running the beta that was suggested. I originally had the public release.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

 

What version of NVDA are you running?

 

 


 

On 11/13/2021 12:06 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:

Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.

 

I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb

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