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Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Tracy <tracy.mousseau@...>
 

Your welcome.

Tracy


On 2021-11-14 11:56 a.m., Brett Boyer wrote:
As always, I appreciate everything you do! Thank you for such an informative message. I will try this as soon as I get to my workstation. But, it sounds like that will fix my problem. I still remember seeing a lot longer of a list in NVDA recently. And, the braille note touch was part of that list. Still not sure what happened… But if this works, I guess it doesn’t matter.
Again, thank you for everything you do! You have always been so helpful.


On Nov 14, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

I see. Humanware does have a page with a download link for the braille display driver: https://support.humanware.com/en-canada/support/braillenote_touch/using_your_braillenote_touch_as_a_braille_display

Basically, you would:

  1. Install the braille terminal driver from the site I linked above (although it says BrailleNote Touch, it is applicable to Touch Plus as well). You should install just the USB driver, not the JAWS driver.
  2. After the driver is installed, from Touch Plus, go to main menu (Home key), select Braille Terminal, then choose USB. Touch Plus will say, "Braille Terminal: USB".
  3. Connect the Touch Plus to the computer using the provided USB-C charging cable.
  4. Wait for Windows to finish installing Touch Plus.
  5. On the computer, press Control+NVDA+A to open braille display dialog, at which point you should see a HumanWare entry. You can use that entry or choose "automatic" to let NVDA detect the Touch Plus.

If things went well, you will see the contents of the screen on the braille display.

IMPORTANT: if you connect the Touch Plus without starting Braille Terminal, Windows will recognize Touch Plus as an Android device.

In case you didn't know, there is a dedicated list for BrailleNote users on Groups.IO where folks do discuss braille display connection questions from time to time: https://groups.io/g/braillenote

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Brett Boyer
 

As always, I appreciate everything you do! Thank you for such an informative message. I will try this as soon as I get to my workstation. But, it sounds like that will fix my problem. I still remember seeing a lot longer of a list in NVDA recently. And, the braille note touch was part of that list. Still not sure what happened… But if this works, I guess it doesn’t matter.
Again, thank you for everything you do! You have always been so helpful.


On Nov 14, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

I see. Humanware does have a page with a download link for the braille display driver: https://support.humanware.com/en-canada/support/braillenote_touch/using_your_braillenote_touch_as_a_braille_display

Basically, you would:

  1. Install the braille terminal driver from the site I linked above (although it says BrailleNote Touch, it is applicable to Touch Plus as well). You should install just the USB driver, not the JAWS driver.
  2. After the driver is installed, from Touch Plus, go to main menu (Home key), select Braille Terminal, then choose USB. Touch Plus will say, "Braille Terminal: USB".
  3. Connect the Touch Plus to the computer using the provided USB-C charging cable.
  4. Wait for Windows to finish installing Touch Plus.
  5. On the computer, press Control+NVDA+A to open braille display dialog, at which point you should see a HumanWare entry. You can use that entry or choose "automatic" to let NVDA detect the Touch Plus.

If things went well, you will see the contents of the screen on the braille display.

IMPORTANT: if you connect the Touch Plus without starting Braille Terminal, Windows will recognize Touch Plus as an Android device.

In case you didn't know, there is a dedicated list for BrailleNote users on Groups.IO where folks do discuss braille display connection questions from time to time: https://groups.io/g/braillenote

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

 

Hi,

I see. Humanware does have a page with a download link for the braille display driver: https://support.humanware.com/en-canada/support/braillenote_touch/using_your_braillenote_touch_as_a_braille_display

Basically, you would:

  1. Install the braille terminal driver from the site I linked above (although it says BrailleNote Touch, it is applicable to Touch Plus as well). You should install just the USB driver, not the JAWS driver.
  2. After the driver is installed, from Touch Plus, go to main menu (Home key), select Braille Terminal, then choose USB. Touch Plus will say, "Braille Terminal: USB".
  3. Connect the Touch Plus to the computer using the provided USB-C charging cable.
  4. Wait for Windows to finish installing Touch Plus.
  5. On the computer, press Control+NVDA+A to open braille display dialog, at which point you should see a HumanWare entry. You can use that entry or choose "automatic" to let NVDA detect the Touch Plus.

If things went well, you will see the contents of the screen on the braille display.

IMPORTANT: if you connect the Touch Plus without starting Braille Terminal, Windows will recognize Touch Plus as an Android device.

In case you didn't know, there is a dedicated list for BrailleNote users on Groups.IO where folks do discuss braille display connection questions from time to time: https://groups.io/g/braillenote

Cheers,

Joseph


What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Louis Maher
 

From the Jonathan Mosen (Mosen AT Large) show published on November 13, 2021, comes the suggestion to hit windows + b which will take you to the system tray menu and place you on the chevron icon. If you then hit space bar, you can arrow left and see icons, and or you can arrow right and see more icons.

I do not yet run Windows 11.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:01 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Hi Group,

Shortly after I upgraded to Windows 11, I have had an issue when trying to review items on the system tray.  I don't see all of them that should appear. somehow (and I don't think it was immediately after installation of Windows 11--but maybe a day or so later) all I see if 5 icons and when I get to the network icon, what seems to be happening is that for some reason I lose focus on the system tray and wind up on the taskbar.

I must have accidentally changed something in some manner to hide/conceal icons on the taskbar. So what are the proper settings that will display all the icons I want to see on the system tray? In particular, I cannot access the volume icon on  the system tray.   This issue occurs both with the Windows command Windows key + B and with the add on for NVDA which uses the JAWS similar keystroke NVDA + F11.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Not Alt+B but Windows+B...


Rui Fontes


Às 15:31 de 14/11/2021, Louis Maher escreveu:

From the Jonathan Mosen (Mosen AT Large) show published on November 13, 2021, comes the suggestion to hit alt + b which will take you to the system desktop menu and place you on the chevron icon. If you then hit space bar, you can arrow left and see icons, and or you can arrow right and see more icons.

I do not yet run Windows 11.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:01 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Hi Group,

Shortly after I upgraded to Windows 11, I have had an issue when trying to review items on the system tray.  I don't see all of them that should appear. somehow (and I don't think it was immediately after installation of Windows 11--but maybe a day or so later) all I see if 5 icons and when I get to the network icon, what seems to be happening is that for some reason I lose focus on the system tray and wind up on the taskbar.

I must have accidentally changed something in some manner to hide/conceal icons on the taskbar. So what are the proper settings that will display all the icons I want to see on the system tray? In particular, I cannot access the volume icon on  the system tray.   This issue occurs both with the Windows command Windows key + B and with the add on for NVDA which uses the JAWS similar keystroke NVDA + F11.


Re: BEEPS NOT OCCURING

Richard Wells
 

Also, in the copy file progress dialog, if you select more details, you will not hear beeps. It is a toggle and you can TAB around the dialog to find it. If it says more details, you should be hearing beeps, because you are actually on less details. If you press space-bar here, you will hear speech say less details, which means that more details are actually showing.

On 11/13/2021 6:40 PM, Gene wrote:
Either you set it incorrectly or there is another problem.  There is a shortcut command that allows you to change the setting on the fly.  You don’t have to be in NVDA to do this.  Use the command NVDA u to cycle through the options.  Try moving through them, stopping on the one you want, and see if it works as expected.  If not try rebooting.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] BEEPS NOT OCCURING
 

Hello  ALL,

I don’t know what I have done but hear is my problem.

When pasting a large number of files from the clipboard to another location nvda used to beep in ascending notes to give me an idea as to how far this action progressed.

For some reason this doesn’t now occur.

In object orientation I set the progress bar to beeps but the result is the same.

Any help please as I prefer beeps to speech saying “two percent”.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Louis Maher
 

From the Jonathan Mosen (Mosen AT Large) show published on November 13, 2021, comes the suggestion to hit alt + b which will take you to the system desktop menu and place you on the chevron icon. If you then hit space bar, you can arrow left and see icons, and or you can arrow right and see more icons.

I do not yet run Windows 11.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:01 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Hi Group,

Shortly after I upgraded to Windows 11, I have had an issue when trying to review items on the system tray.  I don't see all of them that should appear. somehow (and I don't think it was immediately after installation of Windows 11--but maybe a day or so later) all I see if 5 icons and when I get to the network icon, what seems to be happening is that for some reason I lose focus on the system tray and wind up on the taskbar.

I must have accidentally changed something in some manner to hide/conceal icons on the taskbar. So what are the proper settings that will display all the icons I want to see on the system tray? In particular, I cannot access the volume icon on  the system tray.   This issue occurs both with the Windows command Windows key + B and with the add on for NVDA which uses the JAWS similar keystroke NVDA + F11.

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Signature:
For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice; For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!


What Is The Proper Way To Display Icons On the System Tray In Windows 11 As Concerns NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Shortly after I upgraded to Windows 11, I have had an issue when trying to review items on the system tray.  I don't see all of them that should appear. somehow (and I don't think it was immediately after installation of Windows 11--but maybe a day or so later) all I see if 5 icons and when I get to the network icon, what seems to be happening is that for some reason I lose focus on the system tray and wind up on the taskbar.

I must have accidentally changed something in some manner to hide/conceal icons on the taskbar. So what are the proper settings that will display all the icons I want to see on the system tray? In particular, I cannot access the volume icon on  the system tray.   This issue occurs both with the Windows command Windows key + B and with the add on for NVDA which uses the JAWS similar keystroke NVDA + F11.

--

Signature:
For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice;
For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!


Re: new subscriber with braille display issues

Brett Boyer
 

Ok to answer some of the questions.
I have rebooted several times. I have uninstalled several times. I have deleted my nvda folder under the app data. I have ran C cleaner and cleaned my registry after uninstalling NVDA.
I have used the run comm registration tool.
I have searched for braille note touch drivers for NVDA and haven't found anything that wasn't at least 3 years old or so.
I have a Braille Note Touch plus and I'm trying to use the USB connection. The autodetect has been tried several times.
Not sure if I have answered all of the questions. Hopefully you guys have some more ideas because I'm still seeing a basic list of braille displays.
Eco hito mdv lilly, papenmire seka, and no braille.
Thanks again for all of the help
bb

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues

Hello,
have you tried restarting NVDA with addons disabled? An addon might interfere with the procedure of assembling your list of Braille display drivers.
Are we talking about the list that you get when pressing NVDA+CTRL+a?
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 13. Nov. 2021 um 08:18 Uhr schrieb cisco <audiogamer2004@...>:

Hello there,



These might be a few questions and suggestions that might help you:

Have you been using NVDA for long? If so, did this issue appear in 2021.2? or, have you just installed 2021.2 for the first time and got this error?
Have you installed the drivers relating to Humanware displays? I don’t know if there are any, but installing drivers might help your issue.



Hope these two things help.

Best regards.

Francisco.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brett
Boyer
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new subscriber with braille display issues



Hi. It seems that my list of Braille displays is missing several displays. Including my HumanWare displays. I have tried googling around but I haven’t found anything that has helped.

I have tried removing NVDA a few times. Deleted my app data folder, and did a registry clean from C cleaner.



I don’t know if I have something corrupt. When I go to the help submenu to update nvda I get an error.

Any help would be appreciated.

bb


Re: BEEPS NOT OCCURING

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Jean,

All sorted.

When copying from the clipboard I tabbed and unchecked fewer details and all worked ok.

Thanks for your advice.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 14 November 2021 00:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BEEPS NOT OCCURING

 

Either you set it incorrectly or there is another problem.  There is a shortcut command that allows you to change the setting on the fly.  You don’t have to be in NVDA to do this.  Use the command NVDA u to cycle through the options.  Try moving through them, stopping on the one you want, and see if it works as expected.  If not try rebooting.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:32 PM

Subject: [nvda] BEEPS NOT OCCURING

 

Hello  ALL,

I don’t know what I have done but hear is my problem.

When pasting a large number of files from the clipboard to another location nvda used to beep in ascending notes to give me an idea as to how far this action progressed.

For some reason this doesn’t now occur.

In object orientation I set the progress bar to beeps but the result is the same.

Any help please as I prefer beeps to speech saying “two percent”.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: BEEPS NOT OCCURING

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello Jean,

Well, tried all that but no change.

I also reset configuration to factory settings.

I may have “messed things up” as I wanted to record a live tv program and used xbox gaming bar.

The tv recording came out ok but I wonder whether I messed up nvda beeps.

The beeps only don’t occur when pasting from the clipboard. However they do occur when going to outlook to check e-mails.

Still learning about the ins and outs of nvda so any help welcome.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 14 November 2021 00:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BEEPS NOT OCCURING

 

Either you set it incorrectly or there is another problem.  There is a shortcut command that allows you to change the setting on the fly.  You don’t have to be in NVDA to do this.  Use the command NVDA u to cycle through the options.  Try moving through them, stopping on the one you want, and see if it works as expected.  If not try rebooting.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:32 PM

Subject: [nvda] BEEPS NOT OCCURING

 

Hello  ALL,

I don’t know what I have done but hear is my problem.

When pasting a large number of files from the clipboard to another location nvda used to beep in ascending notes to give me an idea as to how far this action progressed.

For some reason this doesn’t now occur.

In object orientation I set the progress bar to beeps but the result is the same.

Any help please as I prefer beeps to speech saying “two percent”.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: win 10 power settings

Arlene
 

Way to go. Glad you figured it out. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Don H
Sent: November 13, 2021 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] win 10 power settings

 

Figured it out.  you need the hybernate option enabled before the fast

startup shows up.  For some reason on my laptop hybernate was off.

 

On 11/13/2021 6:15 PM, tim wrote:

> Fa low the trail.

> windows key, type control panel in search hit enter.

> Now hit P until on power settings hit enter.

> now when it opens up tab to Chose what the power buttons do hit enter.

> When that opens up you are on Change settings that are currently not

> available so hit enter.

> Just tab your way to fast start and do as you want.

> On 11/13/2021 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:

>> Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.

>> I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable

>> fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing

>> something?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: BEEPS NOT OCCURING

Gene
 

Either you set it incorrectly or there is another problem.  There is a shortcut command that allows you to change the setting on the fly.  You don’t have to be in NVDA to do this.  Use the command NVDA u to cycle through the options.  Try moving through them, stopping on the one you want, and see if it works as expected.  If not try rebooting.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 6:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] BEEPS NOT OCCURING
 

Hello  ALL,

I don’t know what I have done but hear is my problem.

When pasting a large number of files from the clipboard to another location nvda used to beep in ascending notes to give me an idea as to how far this action progressed.

For some reason this doesn’t now occur.

In object orientation I set the progress bar to beeps but the result is the same.

Any help please as I prefer beeps to speech saying “two percent”.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


BEEPS NOT OCCURING

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello  ALL,

I don’t know what I have done but hear is my problem.

When pasting a large number of files from the clipboard to another location nvda used to beep in ascending notes to give me an idea as to how far this action progressed.

For some reason this doesn’t now occur.

In object orientation I set the progress bar to beeps but the result is the same.

Any help please as I prefer beeps to speech saying “two percent”.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: win 10 power settings

Don H
 

Figured it out. you need the hybernate option enabled before the fast
startup shows up. For some reason on my laptop hybernate was off.

On 11/13/2021 6:15 PM, tim wrote:
Fa low the trail.

windows key, type control panel in search hit enter.

Now hit P until on power settings hit enter.

now when it opens up tab to Chose what the power buttons do hit enter.

When that opens up you are on Change settings that are currently not
available so hit enter.

Just tab your way to fast start and do as you want.




On 11/13/2021 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:
Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable
fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing
something?







Re: win 10 power settings

tim
 

Fa low the trail.

windows key, type control panel in search hit enter.

Now hit P until on power settings hit enter.

now when it opens up tab to Chose what the power buttons do hit enter.

When that opens up you are on Change settings that are currently not available so hit enter.

Just tab your way to fast start and do as you want.

On 11/13/2021 5:11 PM, Don H wrote:
Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing something?




Re: win 10 power settings

Gene
 

I don’t know what the problem is but unless or until you can disable it, you can easily work around the problem.  I can’t tell you just how often to do so, but perhaps every three or four days, do a restart, not a shutdown.  If you do that, Windows will completely reboot.  If fast boot is currently on, it won’t fully reboot if you shut down and then start the computer again.
 
You can experiment if you wish.  You may be able to go longer without a restart.  If you don’t do a restart at intervals, you will have performance problems just as you would if you let your computer run and never rebooted. 
 
If you install programs or do anything where a full boot of Windows is needed, use restart. 
 
Gene
-----POriginal Message-----

From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] win 10 power settings
 
I followed the instructions from the link provided and had sighted help
look at the screen No fast startup option is shown.

On 11/13/2021 4:31 PM, John Isige wrote:
> Give this a shot and see if it helps.
>
>
> https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/213195423-How-To-Disable-Fast-Startup-in-Windows-10
>
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2021 4:11 PM, Don H wrote:
>> Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
>> I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable
>> fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing
>> something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: win 10 power settings

Don H
 

I followed the instructions from the link provided and had sighted help
look at the screen No fast startup option is shown.

On 11/13/2021 4:31 PM, John Isige wrote:
Give this a shot and see if it helps.


https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/213195423-How-To-Disable-Fast-Startup-in-Windows-10




On 11/13/2021 4:11 PM, Don H wrote:
Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable
fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing
something?







Re: win 10 power settings

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

do you have another screen reader? if yes, open it and do the same thing you did with NVDA... that's all I can tell you, the rest I leave for other users to talk.

Em sáb., 13 de nov. de 2021 às 19:11, Don H <lmddh50@...> escreveu:

Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable fast
startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing something?






Re: win 10 power settings

John Isige
 

On 11/13/2021 4:11 PM, Don H wrote:
Running latest version of Win 10 and NVDA 2021-2.
I have searched and searched for the check box to enable or disable
fast startup and NVDA doesn't read it if it is there.  Am I missing
something?



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