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Re: ableton live suport with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Yes, the built in plugin Reatune can do this, as can Meladine.

 

See here:-

 

https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=228274

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luis Carlos González Moráles
Sent: 22 November 2021 17:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ableton live suport with NVDA

 

The only thing I like with Ableton Live is that you can transform an audio track to a midi track. Don't know if there's an equivalent plugin/reaper feature

Arlene wrote:

Hi, I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask. No,  it isn’t free. Yes, it does work with NVDA. However, someone can better answer you on that. I don’t use it.  I think that program has a free 30 day trial. I could be lying. If you try it. You can’t use all its features until you pay.  If there is a free trial I suggest you try it in the meantime before someone answers you.  If you do end up trying the free trial. You find it doesn’t work then get rid of it before your trial runs out.  You won’t loose the show.  If you find it does work then you can pay for it.   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
Sent: November 21, 2021 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ableton live suport with NVDA

 

is reaper free? does it work with NVDA? Can it be used for more than 60 days? and most importantly, will it run on my 4GB computer?

 

Em seg., 22 de nov. de 2021 às 03:33, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> escreveu:

I'm not familiar with it, but from a quick search, I gather it is music software? https://www.ableton.com/en/

 

I couldn't find anything on its accessibility, but I did find a couple of forum posts asking for help making it accessible, so it may not be.

 

I know a lot of users find https://www.reaper.fm/ meets their needs, particularly with the Osara accessibility add-on: https://osara.reaperaccessibility.com/

 

I'm not sure if that does what you need or has any of the same features as ableton, but just thought I'd mention it.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:06 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:

I don't know if this will be blocked but my question is does ableton live work with NVDA?


 

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Re: ableton live suport with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Then you should buy it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: 22 November 2021 13:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ableton live suport with NVDA

 

Hello there,

 

The only restriction that Reaper gives without you purchasing it is a window that you can close after four seconds on first start of the software per session that basically says that Reaper is not free, and that you should purchase it because that would help them greatly.

Except that, Reaper can be used without buying a license as far as I know, I am using it without a problem, and I’ve had it for more than a year.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 8:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ableton live suport with NVDA

 

I did give you the links so you could investigate for yourself...  There's a "download" link which tells you the evaluation lasts for 60 days and a purchase link which tells you that a license costs $60 for a personal license (and $225 for a commercial license).

 

I don't know the restrictions of the free version, but they do encourage you to download the free version first to ensure it meets your needs.  Do check it out and let us know what you think.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 6:00 PM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:

is reaper free? does it work with NVDA? Can it be used for more than 60 days? and most importantly, will it run on my 4GB computer?

 

Em seg., 22 de nov. de 2021 às 03:33, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> escreveu:

I'm not familiar with it, but from a quick search, I gather it is music software? https://www.ableton.com/en/

 

I couldn't find anything on its accessibility, but I did find a couple of forum posts asking for help making it accessible, so it may not be.

 

I know a lot of users find https://www.reaper.fm/ meets their needs, particularly with the Osara accessibility add-on: https://osara.reaperaccessibility.com/

 

I'm not sure if that does what you need or has any of the same features as ableton, but just thought I'd mention it.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:06 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:

I don't know if this will be blocked but my question is does ableton live work with NVDA?


 

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Re: ableton live suport with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Just to add to this, on the website Reaper Accessibility, you can also join an Email list called Reapers Without Peepers, and there are some very knowledgeable people on there who will get you started with Reaper.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 22 November 2021 07:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ableton live suport with NVDA

 

I did give you the links so you could investigate for yourself...  There's a "download" link which tells you the evaluation lasts for 60 days and a purchase link which tells you that a license costs $60 for a personal license (and $225 for a commercial license).

 

I don't know the restrictions of the free version, but they do encourage you to download the free version first to ensure it meets your needs.  Do check it out and let us know what you think.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 6:00 PM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:

is reaper free? does it work with NVDA? Can it be used for more than 60 days? and most importantly, will it run on my 4GB computer?

 

Em seg., 22 de nov. de 2021 às 03:33, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> escreveu:

I'm not familiar with it, but from a quick search, I gather it is music software? https://www.ableton.com/en/

 

I couldn't find anything on its accessibility, but I did find a couple of forum posts asking for help making it accessible, so it may not be.

 

I know a lot of users find https://www.reaper.fm/ meets their needs, particularly with the Osara accessibility add-on: https://osara.reaperaccessibility.com/

 

I'm not sure if that does what you need or has any of the same features as ableton, but just thought I'd mention it.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:06 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:

I don't know if this will be blocked but my question is does ableton live work with NVDA?


 

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Re: anyone noticed this

 

This is windows 10 I thought I put 10 in the message somewhere.



On 23/11/2021 7:22 pm, Arlene wrote:

Hi, Is this windows ten or 11?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 22, 2021 9:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] anyone noticed this

 

Hi.

 

Well

 

Just got the latest windows build

 

21.2 19.441387 build released today.

 

This had the windows installer fix.

 

I have however noticed a small issue which isn't an issue as such

because I can get round it easy enough.

 

Its just when I select the first item in the start menu ie hitting down

arrow from search I get all apps, then you get the programs starting

with punctuation like & or *, etc well that group does not read but the

items in it do and can be executed.

 

When colapsing a group it seems I get jumpped back to the top of the

list as well.

 

Again not a real big huge issue since I mostly search anyway but just

wandered if anyone has noticed.

 

I have not had any other issues in fact things seem a bit more stable,

but we will see what happens after I do some more shell work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: anyone noticed this

Arlene
 

Hi, Is this windows ten or 11?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 22, 2021 9:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] anyone noticed this

 

Hi.

 

Well

 

Just got the latest windows build

 

21.2 19.441387 build released today.

 

This had the windows installer fix.

 

I have however noticed a small issue which isn't an issue as such

because I can get round it easy enough.

 

Its just when I select the first item in the start menu ie hitting down

arrow from search I get all apps, then you get the programs starting

with punctuation like & or *, etc well that group does not read but the

items in it do and can be executed.

 

When colapsing a group it seems I get jumpped back to the top of the

list as well.

 

Again not a real big huge issue since I mostly search anyway but just

wandered if anyone has noticed.

 

I have not had any other issues in fact things seem a bit more stable,

but we will see what happens after I do some more shell work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


anyone noticed this

 

Hi.

Well

Just got the latest windows build

21.2 19.441387 build released today.

This had the windows installer fix.

I have however noticed a small issue which isn't an issue as such because I can get round it easy enough.

Its just when I select the first item in the start menu ie hitting down arrow from search I get all apps, then you get the programs starting with punctuation like & or *, etc well that group does not read but the items in it do and can be executed.

When colapsing a group it seems I get jumpped back to the top of the list as well.

Again not a real big huge issue since I mostly search anyway but just wandered if anyone has noticed.

I have not had any other issues in fact things seem a bit more stable, but we will see what happens after I do some more shell work.


Re: Status Bars and NVDA

Martin J. Dürst <duerst@...>
 

I agree with Gene. In addition to his points, status bars don't work well on mobile phones, and so applications available for both PC and mobile phones tend to not have status bars.

Regards, Martin.

On 2021-11-23 04:10, Gene via groups.io wrote:
For many years, the trend has been to eliminate status bars in more programs to leave more room for conten or for other functions in the window.
I’m not saying that there are no programs with status bars higher on the screen so NVDA isn’t aware of them but the trend you are talking about means that fewer programs have status lines.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
-----Original Message-----
From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 4:42 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Re: Rearrange Pinned Items

 

The only way I know of to rearrange icons on the taskbar prior to Windows 11 is drag and drop.  And, yes, in theory you can do it with a screen reader, sans add-ons, with emulated drag and drop, but I, and many others, have found that method lacking.

Javi Dominguez has written an add-on for Drag and Drop, which others have said is very helpful.

In the case of the taskbar, icon movement is constrained and they can only be moved right or left with real drag and drop, so you can use the mouse itself since the drop zone is not random. I know I've written about this in detail, but I think it was on the Windows Access for Screen Reader User's group, as this is not NVDA specific in any meaningful sense, and neither is rearranging icons on the taskbar, which is pretty much the same regardless of the screen reader in use, though add-ons/scripts can help where available.
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Re: Clock and StationPlaylist add-on 21.11 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Clock add-on is now being distributed via Add-on Updater. I'll update this thread once StationPlaylist add-on 21.11 finds its way to Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Slight problem with Whatsapp Desktop add-on

Sim Kah Yong
 

HI all,

After going through the troubleshooting steps, I find out more about the Whatsapp add-on as follows:

1. The keystroke Control + Shift + T only works when my focus is on the message list.

2. When I press Control + Tab or Control + Shift + Tab to move among the chat list, I do not hear the chat that is highlighted. It would be very helpful if such information can be voiced out.

Once again, using the Whatsapp add-on is a joy on a whole.

On 22/11/2021 11:10 pm, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 05:45 AM, Sim Kah Yong wrote:
Thanks for the instruction. Is there a more straightforward way of doing it?
-
Not that I'm aware of.  I always used the technique that Eduardo mentions.

I need to check if there's a GitHub ticket about making it such that if you've started NVDA with Add-Ons Disabled that Add-On Manager would offer you a way to selectively re-enable one or more during that session.  There could be a very good reason this functionality doesn't exist, or it could be that it's never been asked for.

It would be very handy to replicate what's called a clean boot process under Windows, where you "eliminate by halves"  and keep re-enabling in chunks until something breaks again.
 
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Re: Rearrange Pinned Items

Rowen Cary
 

Hi, Drag and drop add-ons may also help.

Cheers


Rearrange Pinned Items

Jason Bratcher
 

Hey Brian and others?
I thought as far back as Windows 7 you could pin then rearrange icons on the taskbar either with the mouse or MouseKeys.
Although NVDA's GoldenCursor add-on might be helpful here, too.

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Re: Clock and StationPlaylist add-on 21.11 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

As soon as approved for distribution on community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Clock and StationPlaylist add-on 21.11 released #addonrelease

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

when will it be available in the add-on updater?

Em seg., 22 de nov. de 2021 às 18:08, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> escreveu:

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of two add-on updates (manual install for now):

 

These releases pack major changes including:

  • Clock: user interface messages should be more friendly, resolved several bugs related to stopwatch and timer announcements, changed the location of alarm setup dialog (now found in NVDA tools menu).
  • StationPlaylist: initial (albeit limited) support for Studio 6, localization updates.

 

NOTE: these releases are second to last releases of these add-ons under my maintenance, with the last ones scheduled for January 2022. Also note that Add-on Updater will not offer 21.11 releases yet.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add status bar reading AddOn how should it work?

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry!


Try downloading again:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqin9vni5bpwvpr/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0


Rui Fontes


Às 20:30 de 22/11/2021, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

I’m trying to figure out exactly how the “Add status bar reading” works. I’m in File Explorer for instance, select two files, and when the AddOn is active, upon invoking NVDA+Shift+end, I don’t hear anything spoken. When the AddON is Inactive, upon NVDA+Shift+end, I hear the clasic “NO Status Bar Found”. I make sure the Window is Maximized. Am I doing something wrong?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows

 


Clock and StationPlaylist add-on 21.11 released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of two add-on updates (manual install for now):

 

These releases pack major changes including:

  • Clock: user interface messages should be more friendly, resolved several bugs related to stopwatch and timer announcements, changed the location of alarm setup dialog (now found in NVDA tools menu).
  • StationPlaylist: initial (albeit limited) support for Studio 6, localization updates.

 

NOTE: these releases are second to last releases of these add-ons under my maintenance, with the last ones scheduled for January 2022. Also note that Add-on Updater will not offer 21.11 releases yet.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA - Working with Math and Sound Themes

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes, from memory you need both MathType and MathPlayer to create math.  You can also now use the built in equations in Word.  I'm not sure about Word's equation editor, I must admit I have not tried that.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 5:13 AM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello there Quentin and all,

 

Thank you for the answer about math, the user guide was most enlightening.

 

However, is writing with Math type supported as well? If so, is it only supported with speech or with speech and braille both?

 

If it is not supported, can anyone recommend me software that would allow editing and writing of mathematical content, if any exists?

Thank you and best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 7:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Two different topics related to NVDA

 

HI there,

 

For the first part, see the NVDA user guide section on reading mathematical content: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#ReadingMath

 

The main software is MathPlayer and MathType.

 

For the sound themes question, I'll leave that for someone else, I haven't looked into it myself.

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 2:49 AM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

 

I’m quite sorry that I could not think of an easier to understand subject but I am not good at that.

Also, I am sorry if one or both of the questions I am going to ask had to be asked on the chat group.

 

My first questions is, is there any software that a blind highschooler can use in conjunction with NvDA to do their math work?

 

My second question is, does anyone have an NVDA sound theme which has android’s talkback sounds and which is also compatible with the “Audio Themes” NVDA add-on?

 

Thank you for any answer, and again, I’m sorry for all I said above.

Best regards.

Francisco.


 

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Add status bar reading AddOn how should it work?

Gerardo Corripio
 

I’m trying to figure out exactly how the “Add status bar reading” works. I’m in File Explorer for instance, select two files, and when the AddOn is active, upon invoking NVDA+Shift+end, I don’t hear anything spoken. When the AddON is Inactive, upon NVDA+Shift+end, I hear the clasic “NO Status Bar Found”. I make sure the Window is Maximized. Am I doing something wrong?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows

 


Re: Status Bars and NVDA

Gerardo Corripio
 

Thanks for sharing! It’s installed, but I don’t see any keystroke to get it working. For instance I was in Windows Explorer, selected two files, pressed NVDA+Shift+End, but I didn’t see any difference. What should it read?

 

Enviado desde Correo para Windows

 

De: Rui Fontes
Enviado: lunes, 22 de noviembre de 2021 01:41 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA

 

The error is not yours...

It is not in the oficial repository of add-ons...

 

You can get it from:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqin9vni5bpwvpr/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0

 

It does not work in latest Alphas...and do not work in Windows 11...

 

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 18:25 de 22/11/2021, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

What might I be missing? I can’t find it on the site. Might it be with a different name in Spanish? I’m writing the developper just in case it might not be there yet?

 

Enviado desde Correo para Windows

 

De: Christo de Klerk
Enviado: lunes, 22 de noviembre de 2021 11:16 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA

 

Look for ZExplorer. Its description is "Add status bar reading". If you don't find it there, write and ask the author at:

 

 

Regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons page, within development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see nyding anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get addons".

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 22 nov 2021, a la(s) 10:33 a.m., Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> escribió:



Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It works well in File Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that program.

 

Regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 22 nov 2021, a la(s) 5:24 a.m., Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> escribió:



In some cases, Like File Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon that reads most status lines, but I believe this functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers did not seem particularly interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that one could get at the information in the status line by pressing the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would just be more convenient to have a key which is supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah wrote:

Dear all,
 
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus  Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
 
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
 
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
 
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Status Bars and NVDA

Gene
 

I wonder what changed technically between Windows 7 and10.  The status bar is read in Windows 7.  I hope the add-on is submitted for approval as an official NVDA add-on. 
 
There are times when it is important to see the status line in Windows Explorer.  When I select a number of files to copy to the clipboard for copying, I read the status line before I copy them.  It tells me the number of selected items, which verifies that I have selected the number I intended.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA
 

The error is not yours...

It is not in the oficial repository of add-ons...

 

You can get it from:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqin9vni5bpwvpr/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0

 

It does not work in latest Alphas...and do not work in Windows 11...

 

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 18:25 de 22/11/2021, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

What might I be missing? I can’t find it on the site. Might it be with a different name in Spanish? I’m writing the developper just in case it might not be there yet?

 

Enviado desde Correo para Windows

 

De: Christo de Klerk
Enviado: lunes, 22 de noviembre de 2021 11:16 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA

 

Look for ZExplorer. Its description is "Add status bar reading". If you don't find it there, write and ask the author at:

 

 

Regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons page, within development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see nyding anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get addons".

Gera

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El 22 nov 2021, a la(s) 10:33 a.m., Christo de Klerk mailto:christodeklerk@... escribió:



Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It works well in File Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that program.

 

Regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others.

Gera

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El 22 nov 2021, a la(s) 5:24 a.m., Christo de Klerk mailto:christodeklerk@... escribió:



In some cases, Like File Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon that reads most status lines, but I believe this functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers did not seem particularly interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that one could get at the information in the status line by pressing the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would just be more convenient to have a key which is supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah wrote:

Dear all,
 
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus  Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
 
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
 
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
 
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

 

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