Re: Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team
Laurie Mehta
Thanks Brian, and others, for these resource-leads! Laurie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team
And even though they're not from NVAccess, member Thee Quinn has produced a number of YouTube tutorials on using NVDA. They're well worth checking out. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
This is why I make a back up of the version I’m running, make it portable with all add ons etc, then install over top of my production. This way I can revert by making the portable become my production copy with the touch of a button.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
I think that if you update NVDA in general, you should make a portable version and have it copy the current user configuration. That way, if you want to revert for some reason or if the update doesn’t go correctly, you can uninstall the installed version, then install NVDA from the portable version. As I understand it, if you keep the current user configuration, I believe you have to make that choice both when you make the portable copy and install using it, that you won’t lose anything, including add-ons. I realize people like the convenience of updating rather than installing new versions but I don’t like the idea that that leaves you with no way to revert.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Arlene Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs. I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.
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From: Arlene via groups.io
That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not a good idea. If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it. That way you can better test for bugs. Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.
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From: Gtt North Bay
Brian, Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.
Thanks, Brian B.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Gene
I think that if you update NVDA in general, you should make a portable
version and have it copy the current user configuration. That way, if you
want to revert for some reason or if the update doesn’t go correctly, you can
uninstall the installed version, then install NVDA from the portable
version. As I understand it, if you keep the current user configuration, I
believe you have to make that choice both when you make the portable copy and
install using it, that you won’t lose anything, including add-ons. I
realize people like the convenience of updating rather than installing new
versions but I don’t like the idea that that leaves you with no way to
revert.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for
updates The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs. I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Arlene via groups.io
That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not a good idea. If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it. That way you can better test for bugs. Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.
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From: Gtt
North Bay
Brian, Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.
Thanks, Brian B.
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
You're new, so will not have seen several
previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with
2021.3. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Rosemarie Chavarria
I remember the jaws list tat she had. She was very helpful too. I think the name of her list was jaws lite or something like that. I wasn’t using NVDA yet.
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From: Bobby
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 1:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Just to let you all know I remember Debbie Scales very well. I loved her nvda lists how ever I am very sad she passed away. On 11/27/2021 3:17 PM, Arlene wrote:
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Bobby <vinton.bobby@...>
Just to let you all know I remember Debbie Scales very well. I
loved her nvda lists how ever I am very sad she passed away.
On 11/27/2021 3:17 PM, Arlene wrote:
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Roger Stewart
I can confirm it is a problem on the
site. I'm shown that an update to SPL add on is available but if
I try to download it just errors out with no reason why given. I
then tried going to the regular site for getting add ons and I got
a different kind of error but still with no reason why. It did say
they track these errors on their end so hopefully the problem will
get fixed soon. I'm also using NVDA version 21.2 stable version.
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Roger
On 11/27/2021 1:16 PM, Gtt North Bay
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Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
Chris Mullins
Hi The information you see on the lock screen is controlled through the Personalization sub-menu in the Settings app. (Windows+I). Arrow down the list of categories after opening the Personalization sub-menu and press enter on “Lock Screen”. You can choose what to display in the controls on this screen. When my lock screen opens after start-up, I just press control and that puts me in the Pin number box and after entering that, my NVDA user profile loads..
Cheers Chris
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From: Artin Dekker
Sent: 27 November 2021 18:52 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
Hello everyone,
Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.
Kind Regarts, Artin Dekker
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
I've always done "install over" installs with NVDA. Every once in a very great while I might uninstall NVDA entirely, then reinstall, but that's very, very seldom.
I've never had an issue with install over installs with betas, and they are supposed to act exactly like the release candidate and actual releases do in terms of install behavior, and those always do their own install over updates. Normally I wouldn't suggest installing a beta version as your "daily driver," but this is an exception. It seems that the 2021.3beta2 has been quite unproblematic and it's the quickest way to solve the issue you're having and the solution will still be in place were you to reinstall 2021.2. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Arlene
The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs. I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Arlene via groups.io
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:13 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not a good idea. If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it. That way you can better test for bugs. Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Gtt North Bay
Brian, Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.
Thanks, Brian B.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Arlene
That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not a good idea. If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it. That way you can better test for bugs. Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Brian, Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.
Thanks, Brian B.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Gtt North Bay
Brian, Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.
Thanks, Brian B.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team
And even though they're not from NVAccess, member Thee Quinn has produced a number of YouTube tutorials on using NVDA. They're well worth checking out.
Thee Quinn's Channel on YouTube -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.
I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly. But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
Gtt North Bay
Hi folks, I am new here and well last night I installed 2021.2 on my new to me laptop and this morning I went to help to check for updates and got an error note. Is this a problem with the point 2 or me as my desktop doesn’t have that error.
Thanks, Brian B.
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Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
cisco
Hello there,
The same thing happens to me, sort of. The only thing I can’t see is the weather forecast.
What I do is press escape two or three times until NvDA says secure desktop, and then, if you have a pin or password, log in with that.
The desktop copy of NVDA does load, I can confirm that. best regards. Francisco
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 7:52 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
Hello everyone,
Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.
Kind Regarts, Artin Dekker
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Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup
Hello everyone,
Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.
Kind Regarts,
Artin Dekker
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 02:06 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
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Re: NVDA - Working with Math and Sound Themes
cisco
Hello there,
I’ll try that, thank you so much!
I guess I’ll have to learn a bit of latex if I am to try it, will see what I can do in my spare time. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of woody tseng
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Working with Math and Sound Themes
You can try the Access8Math addon to write Mathematical content. Using alt+m, alt+l to insert LaTeX (or keyin LaTeX directly)and using alt+h convert to HTML document included Mathematical content(MathML) For detailed instructions, welcome to refer to Access8Math github page
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Re: Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team
Milton Charlton
If you search YouTube for "learning NVDA" you will find about 8 videos. These were produced by American Foundation for the Blind in association with NVDA. The audio seems pretty good and covers basic aspects of NVDA.
There are several other videos on YouTube about using NVDA.
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Re: accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?
Gene
In case there is any confusion because Marco’s message isn’t quoted
immediately below mine, I was particularly addressing him along with anyone else
interested.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in
spotify? I haven’t played with the Spotify program for a long time. I use the
Internet player. When I played with it, it used browse mode for many
functions. I’m curious whether you are in browse mode when you try to do
what you are doing and if so, if you turn it off, can you do things by cutting
and pasting?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in
spotify? So, in other words, not really doable by us. Makes sence why the drag drop add on didn’t work as well, and doesn’t tend to for most things electron. Wonder if you could accomplish the thing you want to do on another platform or platforms?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Marco Oros
OK, let me explain It: Playlists and playlist folders can be moved only by a mouse. I think up and down on order and It is sometimes difficult to move playlist to playlist folder, because of same reason.
Dňa 27. 11. 2021 o 18:12 Brian Vogel napísal(a):
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Re: accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?
Gene
I haven’t played with the Spotify program for a long time. I use the
Internet player. When I played with it, it used browse mode for many
functions. I’m curious whether you are in browse mode when you try to do
what you are doing and if so, if you turn it off, can you do things by cutting
and pasting?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in
spotify? So, in other words, not really doable by us. Makes sence why the drag drop add on didn’t work as well, and doesn’t tend to for most things electron. Wonder if you could accomplish the thing you want to do on another platform or platforms?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Marco Oros
OK, let me explain It: Playlists and playlist folders can be moved only by a mouse. I think up and down on order and It is sometimes difficult to move playlist to playlist folder, because of same reason.
Dňa 27. 11. 2021 o 18:12 Brian Vogel napísal(a):
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