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Re: Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team

Laurie Mehta
 

Thanks Brian, and others, for these resource-leads!

 Laurie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team

 

And even though they're not from NVAccess, member Thee Quinn has produced a number of YouTube tutorials on using NVDA.  They're well worth checking out.

Thee Quinn's Channel on YouTube
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The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Sarah k Alawami
 

This is why I make a back up of the version I’m running, make it portable with all add ons etc,  then install over top of my production. This way I can revert by making the portable become my production copy with the touch of a button.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

I think that if you update NVDA in general, you should make a portable version and have it copy the current user configuration.  That way, if you want to revert for some reason or if the update doesn’t go correctly, you can uninstall the installed version, then install NVDA from the portable version.  As I understand it, if you keep the current user configuration, I believe you have to make that choice both when you make the portable copy and install using it, that you won’t lose anything, including add-ons.  I realize people like the convenience of updating rather than installing new versions but I don’t like the idea that that leaves you with no way to revert.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Arlene

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:17 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs.  I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Arlene via groups.io
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not  a good idea.  If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it.  That way you can better test for bugs.  Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Gene
 

I think that if you update NVDA in general, you should make a portable version and have it copy the current user configuration.  That way, if you want to revert for some reason or if the update doesn’t go correctly, you can uninstall the installed version, then install NVDA from the portable version.  As I understand it, if you keep the current user configuration, I believe you have to make that choice both when you make the portable copy and install using it, that you won’t lose anything, including add-ons.  I realize people like the convenience of updating rather than installing new versions but I don’t like the idea that that leaves you with no way to revert.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates
 

The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs.  I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Arlene via groups.io
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not  a good idea.  If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it.  That way you can better test for bugs.  Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I remember the jaws list tat she had. She was very helpful too. I think the name of her list was jaws lite or something like that. I wasn’t using NVDA yet.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Bobby
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Just to let you all know I remember Debbie Scales very well.  I loved her nvda lists how ever I am very sad she passed away.

On 11/27/2021 3:17 PM, Arlene wrote:

The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs.  I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Arlene via groups.io
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not  a good idea.  If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it.  That way you can better test for bugs.  Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Bobby <vinton.bobby@...>
 

Just to let you all know I remember Debbie Scales very well.  I loved her nvda lists how ever I am very sad she passed away.

On 11/27/2021 3:17 PM, Arlene wrote:

The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs.  I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Arlene via groups.io
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not  a good idea.  If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it.  That way you can better test for bugs.  Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Roger Stewart
 

I can confirm it is a problem on the site.  I'm shown that an update to SPL add on is available but if I try to download it just errors out with no reason why given. I then tried going to the regular site for getting add ons and I got a different kind of error but still with no reason why. It did say they track these errors on their end so hopefully the problem will get fixed soon.  I'm also using NVDA version 21.2 stable version.  \

Roger









On 11/27/2021 1:16 PM, Gtt North Bay wrote:

Hi folks,

I am new here and well last night I installed 2021.2 on my new to me laptop and this morning I went to help to check for updates and got an error note. Is this a problem with the point 2 or me as my desktop doesn’t have that error.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.



Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

The information you see on the lock screen is controlled through the Personalization sub-menu in the Settings app. (Windows+I).  Arrow down the list of categories after opening the Personalization sub-menu and press enter on “Lock Screen”.  You can choose what to display in the controls on this screen.  When my lock screen opens after start-up, I just press control and that puts me in the Pin number box and after entering that, my NVDA user profile loads..

 

Cheers

Chris 

 

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From: Artin Dekker
Sent: 27 November 2021 18:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

 

Hello everyone,

 

Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.

 

Kind Regarts,

Artin Dekker


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 02:06 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

I've noticed this strange behavior after the update of Windows 10 to version 1803. The behavior is the following. When the machine starts and Windows 10 loads, it gets to the lock screen as it should. Initially it all looks normal, but only for a while. Moments after that, the lock screen displays not only the time and date as it normally does, but user-specific information as well (e.g. weather forecast, upcoming alarms, etc.). Not only that, but the NVDA startup sound is heard, as if the desktop copy of NVDA is loaded, even though it should load only when the specific user signs in. I can't tell for sure if the desktop copy of NVDA loads, because my NVDA settings for the desktop and secure screen copies of it are the same. On top of that, the "Ease of access" menu appears and NVDA starts reading its menu items one by one. This happens when I power up the machine with "Fast Boot" enabled. I haven't tried with "Fast Boot" disabled, but when I restart the machine, the behavior described above does not occur. So, it must be related to "Fast Boot" somehow. And this did not occur before the update to version 1803 of Windows 10.

Has anyone else experienced the behavior described above? Have you found any solutions besides turning off "Fast Boot"? Turning off "Fast Boot" is also a solution, but I'd prefer to keep it on if possible.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

I've always done "install over" installs with NVDA.  Every once in a very great while I might uninstall NVDA entirely, then reinstall, but that's very, very seldom.

I've never had an issue with install over installs with betas, and they are supposed to act exactly like the release candidate and actual releases do in terms of install behavior, and those always do their own install over updates.

Normally I wouldn't suggest installing a beta version as your "daily driver," but this is an exception.  It seems that the 2021.3beta2 has been quite unproblematic and it's the quickest way to solve the issue you're having and the solution will still be in place were you to reinstall 2021.2.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Arlene
 

The reason I say its up to you. I learned from Debbie Scales that if you are going to test a beta screen reader you should have an old copy of the last version kicking around so you know there’s bugs.  I tested Jaws 5.0 that’s why you need to have a more stable version of your screen reader should you run a muck. Debbie Scales used to run a jaws list. She’d probably say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Arlene via groups.io
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not  a good idea.  If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it.  That way you can better test for bugs.  Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Arlene
 

That depends on you. You can install the beta and put it into a different folder. Some people say you shouldn’t install over a copy. If you are testing for bugs. If you are using it just for your own purposes and don’t want to test for bugs then go ahead. If you want to test for them its not  a good idea.  If you are a beta tester you shouldn’t do it.  That way you can better test for bugs.  Bryan might have his own ideas. I say its up to you.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gtt North Bay
Sent: November 27, 2021 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Gtt North Bay
 

Brian,

Can I install the beta over the point 2 or do I need to uninstall 2021.2 first.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 


Re: Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team

 

And even though they're not from NVAccess, member Thee Quinn has produced a number of YouTube tutorials on using NVDA.  They're well worth checking out.

Thee Quinn's Channel on YouTube
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 


Re: NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

 

You're new, so will not have seen several previous conversations, but this is indeed a bug and it's been resolved with 2021.3.

I would, at this point, strongly suggest you just update to NVDA 2021.3beta2, as it's been working fine, fixes the problem, and will likely go to release candidate status shortly.  But even if you were to have issues with the beta and rolled back to 2021.2, what it fixes in regard to the update issue stays fixed, as it's external to NVDA itself and the fix made stays.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 


NVDA 2021.2 - Error when checking for updates

Gtt North Bay
 

Hi folks,

I am new here and well last night I installed 2021.2 on my new to me laptop and this morning I went to help to check for updates and got an error note. Is this a problem with the point 2 or me as my desktop doesn’t have that error.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.


Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

The same thing happens to me, sort of.

The only thing I can’t see is the weather forecast.

 

What I do is press escape two or three times until NvDA says secure desktop, and then, if you have a pin or password, log in with that.

 

The desktop copy of NVDA does load, I can confirm that.

best regards.

Francisco

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

 

Hello everyone,

 

Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.

 

Kind Regarts,

Artin Dekker


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 02:06 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

I've noticed this strange behavior after the update of Windows 10 to version 1803. The behavior is the following. When the machine starts and Windows 10 loads, it gets to the lock screen as it should. Initially it all looks normal, but only for a while. Moments after that, the lock screen displays not only the time and date as it normally does, but user-specific information as well (e.g. weather forecast, upcoming alarms, etc.). Not only that, but the NVDA startup sound is heard, as if the desktop copy of NVDA is loaded, even though it should load only when the specific user signs in. I can't tell for sure if the desktop copy of NVDA loads, because my NVDA settings for the desktop and secure screen copies of it are the same. On top of that, the "Ease of access" menu appears and NVDA starts reading its menu items one by one. This happens when I power up the machine with "Fast Boot" enabled. I haven't tried with "Fast Boot" disabled, but when I restart the machine, the behavior described above does not occur. So, it must be related to "Fast Boot" somehow. And this did not occur before the update to version 1803 of Windows 10.

Has anyone else experienced the behavior described above? Have you found any solutions besides turning off "Fast Boot"? Turning off "Fast Boot" is also a solution, but I'd prefer to keep it on if possible.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


 

 


Re: Strange behavior of NVDA and Windows 10 at machine startup

 

Hello everyone,
 
Has anyone ever found a solution for this? I have a new laptop with Windows 10 20H2 and NVDA 2021.2 and run into the same problem.
 
Kind Regarts,
Artin Dekker

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 02:06 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

I've noticed this strange behavior after the update of Windows 10 to version 1803. The behavior is the following. When the machine starts and Windows 10 loads, it gets to the lock screen as it should. Initially it all looks normal, but only for a while. Moments after that, the lock screen displays not only the time and date as it normally does, but user-specific information as well (e.g. weather forecast, upcoming alarms, etc.). Not only that, but the NVDA startup sound is heard, as if the desktop copy of NVDA is loaded, even though it should load only when the specific user signs in. I can't tell for sure if the desktop copy of NVDA loads, because my NVDA settings for the desktop and secure screen copies of it are the same. On top of that, the "Ease of access" menu appears and NVDA starts reading its menu items one by one. This happens when I power up the machine with "Fast Boot" enabled. I haven't tried with "Fast Boot" disabled, but when I restart the machine, the behavior described above does not occur. So, it must be related to "Fast Boot" somehow. And this did not occur before the update to version 1803 of Windows 10.

Has anyone else experienced the behavior described above? Have you found any solutions besides turning off "Fast Boot"? Turning off "Fast Boot" is also a solution, but I'd prefer to keep it on if possible.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


 
 


Re: NVDA - Working with Math and Sound Themes

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

I’ll try that, thank you so much!

 

I guess I’ll have to learn a bit of latex if I am to try it, will see what I can do in my spare time.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of woody tseng
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 12:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Working with Math and Sound Themes

 

My first questions is, is there any software that a blind highschooler can use in conjunction with NvDA to do their math work?

You can try the Access8Math addon to write Mathematical content.

Using alt+m, alt+l to insert LaTeX (or keyin LaTeX directly)and using alt+h convert to HTML document included Mathematical content(MathML)

For detailed instructions, welcome to refer to Access8Math github page


Re: Seeking Information on tutorial materials produced by NVDA team

Milton Charlton
 

If you search YouTube for "learning NVDA" you will find about 8 videos.  These were produced by American Foundation for the Blind in association with NVDA.  The audio seems pretty good and covers basic aspects of NVDA.  
There are several other videos on YouTube about using NVDA.


Re: accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?

Gene
 

In case there is any confusion because Marco’s message isn’t quoted immediately below mine, I was particularly addressing him along with anyone else interested.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?
 
I haven’t played with the Spotify program for a long time.  I use the Internet player.  When I played with it, it used browse mode for many functions.  I’m curious whether you are in browse mode when you try to do what you are doing and if so, if you turn it off, can you do things by cutting and pasting?
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?
 

So, in other words, not really doable by us. Makes sence why the drag drop add on didn’t work as well, and doesn’t tend to for most things electron. Wonder if you could accomplish the thing you want to do on another platform or platforms?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 9:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?

 

OK, let me explain It:

Playlists and playlist folders can be moved only by a mouse. I think up and down on order and It is sometimes difficult to move playlist to playlist folder, because of same reason.

 

Dňa 27. 11. 2021 o 18:12 Brian Vogel napísal(a):

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 12:01 PM, Gene wrote:

There is my reply, the person’s question below, then an earlier reply by me below that.  Do you see what I’m describing?

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No, because there is nothing there in the message from member Eduardo Fermiano Luccas, which is in the group archive here:  and is the message that I presume all of us speaking about an empty message are referring to.

It has no content other than the quoted material, and one can see that when trying to copy or afterward when one pastes into something like notepad and no content is above, or below, the quoted material, which consists entirely of a quotation of your offering in message  and what you'd quoted from prior messages as part of it.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 


Re: accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?

Gene
 

I haven’t played with the Spotify program for a long time.  I use the Internet player.  When I played with it, it used browse mode for many functions.  I’m curious whether you are in browse mode when you try to do what you are doing and if so, if you turn it off, can you do things by cutting and pasting?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?
 

So, in other words, not really doable by us. Makes sence why the drag drop add on didn’t work as well, and doesn’t tend to for most things electron. Wonder if you could accomplish the thing you want to do on another platform or platforms?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 9:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible way of moving playlists to folders in spotify?

 

OK, let me explain It:

Playlists and playlist folders can be moved only by a mouse. I think up and down on order and It is sometimes difficult to move playlist to playlist folder, because of same reason.

 

Dňa 27. 11. 2021 o 18:12 Brian Vogel napísal(a):

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 12:01 PM, Gene wrote:

There is my reply, the person’s question below, then an earlier reply by me below that.  Do you see what I’m describing?

-
No, because there is nothing there in the message from member Eduardo Fermiano Luccas, which is in the group archive here:  and is the message that I presume all of us speaking about an empty message are referring to.

It has no content other than the quoted material, and one can see that when trying to copy or afterward when one pastes into something like notepad and no content is above, or below, the quoted material, which consists entirely of a quotation of your offering in message  and what you'd quoted from prior messages as part of it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

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