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Re: microsoft store and virtual cursor

Sarah k Alawami
 

They changed the way it looks now. Try using object navigation to get around. That seems to work, or try tabbing like I sometimes do.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammed Al Shara
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft store and vertual cursor

 

Hi.

when navigating microsoft's store NVDA on my pc doesn't switch to vertual cursor just as I remember it doing before. Am I imagining things or there indeed should be a vertual window when microsoft store is navigated? Windows 11 and latest beta of NVDA.


Re: NV access site does not open

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've not even heard of that expression, and I'm kind of a native English speaker. I'll have to look that up to teach my students that one.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 6:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV access site does not open

Lol, I'm sorry, Eduardo--I'm usually sensitive to non-English speakers. It was late, I was tired, & I messed up. & I am so sorry & embarrassed.

Hang fire is just a slang phrase that means wait awhile. So now you learned an English slang!

On 12/1/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
chaw, the problem seems to be solved now

Em qua., 1 de dez. de 2021 às 04:33, Shaun Everiss
<sm.everiss@...>
escreveu:

Hmmm its fine here.


On 1/12/2021 6:34 pm, Jackie wrote:
It's not you, bro. Just hang fire till tomorrow, & it'll likely be
back
up.

On 11/30/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi friends, i tried to check for updates, and NVDA gave an error,
and i
am
using NVDA2021.3beta2, and when i opened nv access.org site, it
failed! can
you help me?














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problem in using zoom with nvda

udit pandey
 

hi group,
hope that you all are well
I had a problem with zoom when I was using it with my bluetooth headphones on my pc
I started meating suddenly, my nvda stopped working it diddent speak anything I tried restarting nvda still it was same but I could here other background voices.
same case was with narrator also.
but somehow I ended the meating then nvda worked perfectly is there any solution for this problem I am using nvda latest version windows 10 and the latest version of zoom


Re: NVDA with Windows Mail

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

As far as the mail app, there’s a way to get back to the inbox from another folder. It’s shift control I. I don’t know about the other questions.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 7:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Windows Mail

 

Hello all,

As a new Lerner of NVDA , I would like to know if there is an NVDA command to jump directly to the message list from a folder.  Right now, I am tabbing through several controls before landing on the message list. Is there a better way

 

Also, On a more generic level, is it necessary to know if you are in browse mode or focus mode? If so, under what circumstances?

 

Thank you.

 

Warmly,

Mani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Recommendations for NVDA voice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

I’m using the e-speak voice female 5. She’s very clear in my opinion.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 7:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Recommendations for NVDA voice

 

Hello all,

I am profoundly deaf and wear hearing aids. I  am currently using Microsoft’s David's voice. But this voice lacks clarity of certain consonants for my hearing and I find myself resorting to phonetic spelling a lot. Do you have any recommendation for a ‘clear’ voice under which which speech synthesizer would possibly help me. ?

 

Thanks.

 

Warmly,

Mani

 

 

 

 

 

 


Recommendations for NVDA voice

Mani Iyer
 

Hello all,
I am profoundly deaf and wear hearing aids. I am currently using Microsoft’s David's voice. But this voice lacks clarity of certain consonants for my hearing and I find myself resorting to phonetic spelling a lot. Do you have any recommendation for a ‘clear’ voice under which which speech synthesizer would possibly help me. ?

Thanks.

Warmly,
Mani


NVDA with Windows Mail

Mani Iyer
 

Hello all,
As a new Lerner of NVDA , I would like to know if there is an NVDA command to jump directly to the message list from a folder. Right now, I am tabbing through several controls before landing on the message list. Is there a better way

Also, On a more generic level, is it necessary to know if you are in browse mode or focus mode? If so, under what circumstances?

Thank you.

Warmly,
Mani


errors with RC

Chris Smart
 

There are a couple errors below the usual initialization messages. Log follows:

 

INFO - __main__ (10:11:56.663) - MainThread (12244):

Starting NVDA version 2021.3rc1

INFO - core.main (10:11:56.898) - MainThread (12244):

Config dir: C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:11:56.898) - MainThread (12244):

Loading config: C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (10:11:57.041) - MainThread (12244):

Windows version: Windows 10 21H2 (10.0.19044) workstation

INFO - core.main (10:11:57.041) - MainThread (12244):

Using Python version 3.7.9 (tags/v3.7.9:13c94747c7, Aug 17 2020, 18:01:55) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (10:11:57.041) - MainThread (12244):

Using comtypes version 1.1.8

INFO - core.main (10:11:57.041) - MainThread (12244):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:11:57.681) - MainThread (12244):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (10:11:57.681) - MainThread (12244):

Using wx version 4.1.1 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.1.5 with six version 1.16.0

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:11:57.681) - MainThread (12244):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (10:11:57.681) - MainThread (12244):

Using liblouis version 3.19.0

INFO - braille.initialize (10:11:57.681) - MainThread (12244):

Using pySerial version 3.5

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:11:57.691) - MainThread (12244):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - core.main (10:11:57.811) - MainThread (12244):

Java Access Bridge support initialized

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:11:57.871) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (12912):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6

INFO - core.main (10:11:58.066) - MainThread (12244):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (10:12:28.205) - MainThread (12244):

error executing event: UIA_controllerFor on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_StartMenuSearchFieldSearchFieldEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x03B517B0> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 284, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 107, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 2157, in event_UIA_controllerFor

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 146, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1935, in _get_controllerFor

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 92, in __call__

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1017, in findOverlayClasses

AttributeError: module 'NVDAObjects.UIA.spartanEdge' has no attribute 'EdgeHTMLRootContainer'

ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (10:13:16.177) - MainThread (12244):

error executing script: <bound method WordDocument.script_toggleAlignment of <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_OutlookUIAWordDocumentWordDocumentEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x075DFE30>> with gesture 'ctrl+r'

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 208, in executeScript

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 1295, in script_toggleAlignment

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 1240, in _WaitForValueChangeForAction

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 1295, in <lambda>

  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 86, in new__getattr__

  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 168, in __getattr__

  File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke

  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 30, in __call__

_ctypes.COMError: (-2146822463, None, ('Object has been deleted.', 'Microsoft Word', 'wdmain11.chm', 25305, None))

 

 


Re: NV access site does not open

Jackie
 

Lol, I'm sorry, Eduardo--I'm usually sensitive to non-English
speakers. It was late, I was tired, & I messed up. & I am so sorry &
embarrassed.

Hang fire is just a slang phrase that means wait awhile. So now you
learned an English slang!

On 12/1/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
chaw, the problem seems to be solved now

Em qua., 1 de dez. de 2021 às 04:33, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>
escreveu:

Hmmm its fine here.


On 1/12/2021 6:34 pm, Jackie wrote:
It's not you, bro. Just hang fire till tomorrow, & it'll likely be back
up.

On 11/30/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi friends, i tried to check for updates, and NVDA gave an error, and
i
am
using NVDA2021.3beta2, and when i opened nv access.org site, it
failed! can
you help me?













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Re: unlabelled buttons and nvda

Rui Fontes
 

Depending on various items, it is also possible to use an add-on with functionality similar to Jaws to label the buttons, objEnhancer, or create an add-on similar to QTranslate addd-on to label the buttons...


Rui Fontes


Às 07:22 de 01/12/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi


The functionality is not built into nvda but the golden cursor lets you do hot spots I have used it on un labled buttons for a scanner etc but uses the elements list to get to those areas. It is like put the mouse on the area, label it then bring it up in a list in the program I think it is.


There is also another add on that is been reviewed or updated called object enhancer which I have in my drop box at https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqnooxmas5utw70/objEnhancer_2019.2beta1_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0


There is english documentation that tells you how to use it. The guy that made it does not want to take it further?



Gene nz


On 1/12/2021 8:10 pm, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Hi guys,

 

I have an epubconvertor but it has couple of buttons that nvda latest version doesn’t recognise and interpret them just as button button etc.

Currently I have the epubsoft convertor v14.5

Evaluation of the software can be downloaded from here:

Epubsoft Ebook Converter 15.7 Download (Free trial) - EbookConverter.exe (informer.com)

 

Is there a way how to label such buttons using nvda? Jaws has this functionality for sure.


NVDA 2021.3 RC 1 is available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

The Release Candidate (RC) of NVDA 2021.3 is now available for download and testing. We encourage all users to download this RC and provide feedback. Unless any critical bugs are found, this will be identical to the final 2021.3 release.

Highlights

This release introduces support for the new HID Braille specification. This specification aims to standardize support for Braille Displays without needing individual drivers. There are updates to eSpeak-NG and LibLouis, including new Russian and Tshivenda tables. Error sounds can be enabled in stable builds of NVDA via a new advanced settings option. Say all in Word now scrolls the view to keep the current position visible. There are lots of improvements when using Office with UIA. One UIA fix is that Outlook now ignores more types of layout tables in messages.
Changes from Beta 2:

- Restored reporting of backspaced characters in Visual Studio editor
- Updates to translations.

Read more and download from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3rc1/

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: loss of hot keys

Gene
 

Then you didn’t have the same problem.  You may have had a mechanical problem and your computer may not have the problem being described, but it is a problam that evidently, many people have.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] loss of hot keys
 

Hi

I had this a few years ago, took laptop to a local repair store and they put a new keyboard unit in it.  No problems ever since.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 01 December 2021 02:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] loss of hot keys

 

When this happens, all keys get stuck. I know we’ve talked about this before. It does not matter if it is a wired keyboard or a laptop keyboard. Iv’e tested with both over the years this has been happening.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] loss of hot keys

 

Given how cheap fully functional USB wired external keyboards are at most thrift shops, it's worth having one on hand for testing purposes.  Of course if it's a laptop key that's stuck, and you can't unstick it, an external keyboard will still misbehave since the computer will accept input from all connected keyboards.
--

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The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 


Re: loss of hot keys

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I had this a few years ago, took laptop to a local repair store and they put a new keyboard unit in it.  No problems ever since.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 01 December 2021 02:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] loss of hot keys

 

When this happens, all keys get stuck. I know we’ve talked about this before. It does not matter if it is a wired keyboard or a laptop keyboard. Iv’e tested with both over the years this has been happening.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] loss of hot keys

 

Given how cheap fully functional USB wired external keyboards are at most thrift shops, it's worth having one on hand for testing purposes.  Of course if it's a laptop key that's stuck, and you can't unstick it, an external keyboard will still misbehave since the computer will accept input from all connected keyboards.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

 

 


Re: NV access site does not open

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

chaw, the problem seems to be solved now

Em qua., 1 de dez. de 2021 às 04:33, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> escreveu:

Hmmm its fine here.


On 1/12/2021 6:34 pm, Jackie wrote:
> It's not you, bro. Just hang fire till tomorrow, & it'll likely be back up.
>
> On 11/30/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
>> hi friends, i tried to check for updates, and NVDA gave an error, and i am
>> using NVDA2021.3beta2, and when i opened nv access.org site, it failed! can
>> you help me?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>






Re: NV access site does not open

 

Hmmm its fine here.

On 1/12/2021 6:34 pm, Jackie wrote:
It's not you, bro. Just hang fire till tomorrow, & it'll likely be back up.

On 11/30/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi friends, i tried to check for updates, and NVDA gave an error, and i am
using NVDA2021.3beta2, and when i opened nv access.org site, it failed! can
you help me?






Re: unlabelled buttons and nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The functionality is not built into nvda but the golden cursor lets you do hot spots I have used it on un labled buttons for a scanner etc but uses the elements list to get to those areas. It is like put the mouse on the area, label it then bring it up in a list in the program I think it is.


There is also another add on that is been reviewed or updated called object enhancer which I have in my drop box at https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqnooxmas5utw70/objEnhancer_2019.2beta1_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0


There is english documentation that tells you how to use it. The guy that made it does not want to take it further?



Gene nz


On 1/12/2021 8:10 pm, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Hi guys,

 

I have an epubconvertor but it has couple of buttons that nvda latest version doesn’t recognise and interpret them just as button button etc.

Currently I have the epubsoft convertor v14.5

Evaluation of the software can be downloaded from here:

Epubsoft Ebook Converter 15.7 Download (Free trial) - EbookConverter.exe (informer.com)

 

Is there a way how to label such buttons using nvda? Jaws has this functionality for sure.


microsoft store and virtual cursor

Mohammed Al Shara
 

Hi.

when navigating microsoft's store NVDA on my pc doesn't switch to vertual cursor just as I remember it doing before. Am I imagining things or there indeed should be a vertual window when microsoft store is navigated? Windows 11 and latest beta of NVDA.


Re: unlabelled buttons and nvda

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

unfortunately it doesn't have this in NVDA, but I only study computer for 1 year, so I can't talk much

Em qua., 1 de dez. de 2021 às 04:10, Michael Micallef at FITA <michael.micallef@...> escreveu:

Hi guys,

 

I have an epubconvertor but it has couple of buttons that nvda latest version doesn’t recognise and interpret them just as button button etc.

Currently I have the epubsoft convertor v14.5

Evaluation of the software can be downloaded from here:

Epubsoft Ebook Converter 15.7 Download (Free trial) - EbookConverter.exe (informer.com)

 

Is there a way how to label such buttons using nvda? Jaws has this functionality for sure.


Re: NV access site does not open

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


checked before and the snap shot page was down just checked now and it is back up.


I thought they might of been putting up a RC release but does not look like it when I checked just then.


Gene nz


On 1/12/2021 6:31 pm, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
hi friends, i tried to check for updates, and NVDA gave an error, and i am using NVDA2021.3beta2, and when i opened nv access.org site, it failed! can you help me?


unlabelled buttons and nvda

Michael Micallef at FITA
 

Hi guys,

 

I have an epubconvertor but it has couple of buttons that nvda latest version doesn’t recognise and interpret them just as button button etc.

Currently I have the epubsoft convertor v14.5

Evaluation of the software can be downloaded from here:

Epubsoft Ebook Converter 15.7 Download (Free trial) - EbookConverter.exe (informer.com)

 

Is there a way how to label such buttons using nvda? Jaws has this functionality for sure.

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