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Re: CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

Gtt North Bay
 

Ok good to go, just in case this happens to someone else. This NVDA was a new install on new laptop and I went and checked the properties of the desktop icon and of course shortcut was none and changed it and good to go.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 4, 2021 11:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ctrl=+alt+N not working for me

 

There is no setting.  Short cuts and the shortcut commands such as control alt n are Windows functions.  NVDA creates a short cut and a short cut key when you install it but what it creates is a Windows shortcut and a Windows short cut key.

 

Go to the desktop and type n repeatedly.  Do you get to an NVDA shortcut?  Do you know how to check if there is a shortcut key assigned to the NVDA shortcut if you get to one? We will tell you how if you don’t know.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2021 10:13 AM

Subject: [nvda] ctrl=+alt+N not working for me

 

Hi,

The shortcut keys to start NVDA are not working for me and I went into settings general but didn’t find a field to check the shortcut keys to start NVDA.

Running 2021.3RC on latest windows 10.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 


Re: NVDA object navigation

David Goldfield
 

Also, section 5.4 of the NVDA user’s  guide documents the object navigation feature.

This is the section number in NVDA 2021.3 RC 1.

To quickly open the manual you can press

Insert+N, H for Help followed by the enter key.

 

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 12:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA object navigation

 

Hi Lexi, So as far as object navigation goes, at least in laptop layout, you press NVDA+Contro+left/right arrow to move between objects, and NVDA+Control+up/down arrow to move between groups of objects. Once you've located the object you want to click on, press NVDA+shift+backspace to move the system focus to the object you want to click on. As far as OCR is concerned, that's a different feature entirely. Put your cursor on the image you want to recognize and press NVDA+r. Hope this helps.

 

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 8:52 AM Lexi <alexiscooks836@...> wrote:

Hello everyone, I'm looking to use NVDA's OCR feature more. Can someone please explain to me how to use the NVDA object navigation? I sometimes need to click on things but I can't interact with the text after I OCR it. Thank you all in advance.--

Please be blessed and be safe. Thank you,
Lexi


Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

Jason White
 


On 3/12/21 02:48, cisco wrote:

Should the classic windows executable of Thorium be downloaded, or is the Windows Store version accessible as well?

They're both accessible, but you can, in my experience, often obtain a newer version from their Web site to what is in the Windows Store.


Re: NVDA object navigation

Jujube
 

Hi Lexi, So as far as object navigation goes, at least in laptop layout, you press NVDA+Contro+left/right arrow to move between objects, and NVDA+Control+up/down arrow to move between groups of objects. Once you've located the object you want to click on, press NVDA+shift+backspace to move the system focus to the object you want to click on. As far as OCR is concerned, that's a different feature entirely. Put your cursor on the image you want to recognize and press NVDA+r. Hope this helps.


On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 8:52 AM Lexi <alexiscooks836@...> wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm looking to use NVDA's OCR feature more. Can someone please explain to me how to use the NVDA object navigation? I sometimes need to click on things but I can't interact with the text after I OCR it. Thank you all in advance.--
Please be blessed and be safe. Thank you,
Lexi


Re: NVDA object navigation

 

Lexi,

Take a look at the following topic in the archive (which I so happen to have started):

NVDA OCR - Can you save the text result somehow?

I think it may answer at least some of your questions.

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NVDA object navigation

Lexi
 

Hello everyone, I'm looking to use NVDA's OCR feature more. Can someone please explain to me how to use the NVDA object navigation? I sometimes need to click on things but I can't interact with the text after I OCR it. Thank you all in advance.--
Please be blessed and be safe. Thank you,
Lexi


Re: CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

 

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 11:34 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
A couple people already have. Prepare for another ten similar posts (grin)
-
Hence the reason for these list "rules" (really more strong suggestions, that are constantly ignored):

1.  Use threaded or conversation view in your e-mail client program or webmail and reading through the entirety of a topic before replying.  It gets you completely up to speed and avoids a lot of repetition.  If you choose not to use threaded/conversation view, please take the time to read through all messages from the group that are in your inbox prior to adding any reply to the group.  It’s the only way you can be sure you’re up to speed on any topic when not using threaded/conversation view.

2.  Reading through all new topics before replying, as topics have a tendency to get split upon occasion and often an answer ends up being in a separate topic.

-----
I really wish more heed were paid, as repeated answers that say exactly the same thing as the first answer are just clutter.

Asked and answered means just that, and not only on this group.

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Re: CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

Chris Smart
 

A couple people already have. Prepare for another ten similar posts (grin)

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December 4, 2021 11:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ctrl=+alt+N not working for me

 

There is no setting.  Short cuts and the shortcut commands such as control alt n are Windows functions.  NVDA creates a short cut and a short cut key when you install it but what it creates is a Windows shortcut and a Windows short cut key.

 

Go to the desktop and type n repeatedly.  Do you get to an NVDA shortcut?  Do you know how to check if there is a shortcut key assigned to the NVDA shortcut if you get to one? We will tell you how if you don’t know.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2021 10:13 AM

Subject: [nvda] ctrl=+alt+N not working for me

 

Hi,

The shortcut keys to start NVDA are not working for me and I went into settings general but didn’t find a field to check the shortcut keys to start NVDA.

Running 2021.3RC on latest windows 10.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 


Re: CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

Gene
 

There is no setting.  Short cuts and the shortcut commands such as control alt n are Windows functions.  NVDA creates a short cut and a short cut key when you install it but what it creates is a Windows shortcut and a Windows short cut key.
 
Go to the desktop and type n repeatedly.  Do you get to an NVDA shortcut?  Do you know how to check if there is a shortcut key assigned to the NVDA shortcut if you get to one? We will tell you how if you don’t know.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2021 10:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] ctrl=+alt+N not working for me
 

Hi,

The shortcut keys to start NVDA are not working for me and I went into settings general but didn’t find a field to check the shortcut keys to start NVDA.

Running 2021.3RC on latest windows 10.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 


Re: CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

Chris Smart
 

Find the shortcut for NVDA on your desktop and go into its Properties with ALT+Enter.

You assign the shortcut key there.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gtt North Bay
Sent: December 4, 2021 11:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ctrl=+alt+N not working for me

 

Hi,

The shortcut keys to start NVDA are not working for me and I went into settings general but didn’t find a field to check the shortcut keys to start NVDA.

Running 2021.3RC on latest windows 10.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 


Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

David Griffith
 

I had this problem  once  but I solved it by asking on the support pages of the   website to resend an activation code to my email address.
This new activation code, unlike the old one worked to activate the program.
David Griffith

On 4 Dec 2021, at 14:30, Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:

a question on a slight tangent ... I have a paid version of QRead 3.1 and want to stick with that version. I recently needed to replace my Surface Pro tablet with a newer model, and when I attempt to install QRead 3.1 on it, using the same email address and activation key that was provided, nothing happens. I still stay on the product avtivation page of the app, and if I close that down and re-start QRead, I am still greeted by the product activation page!

Does anybody have any idea what might be preventing me from registering QRead on my new tablet? I did ask this question through the QRead contact page, but no response as yet.

TIA :)

Giles


Re: CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

Yeti
 

Hello Brian,

didn’t find a field to check the shortcut keys to start NVDA.

This is a matter of the desktop shortcut.
Do you have one on your Desktop?

And if so:
When You open its settings by pressing

Alt+Enter

What is the content of the field for the shortcut in there?

If it is

CTRL+Alt+N

There may be a second desktop shortcut with this keyboard shortcut and this may cause this effect as well.

Ad Astra

Yeti


Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

Carlos
 

Hello, The QRead activation server may/might be down today.

On 12/4/2021 6:30 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
a question on a slight tangent ... I have a paid version of QRead 3.1 and want to stick with that version. I recently needed to replace my Surface Pro tablet with a newer model, and when I attempt to install QRead 3.1 on it, using the same email address and activation key that was provided, nothing happens. I still stay on the product avtivation page of the app, and if I close that down and re-start QRead, I am still greeted by the product activation page!

Does anybody have any idea what might be preventing me from registering QRead on my new tablet? I did ask this question through the QRead contact page, but no response as yet.

TIA :)

Giles


CTRL + ALT + N not working for me

Gtt North Bay
 

Hi,

The shortcut keys to start NVDA are not working for me and I went into settings general but didn’t find a field to check the shortcut keys to start NVDA.

Running 2021.3RC on latest windows 10.

 

Thanks,

Brian B.

 


Re: Reading be accessible name of an interactive components in screen readers

 

It really helps to have a few specific examples where the behavior either occurs or does not occur, and consistently.

This really cannot be discussed in the abstract.  One has to be trying to deal with something in order to tease out what is, or is not, occurring.  And if a fix to NVDA ends up being needed, this is absolutely essential.  You can't fix what you can't reproduce.
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Re: Reading be accessible name of an interactive components in screen readers

Russell James
 

This is a great question

I would also very much like to understand this :-)

Sometimes it works really well and other times not at all

I think it is different in Windows applications versus web applications

I have noticed at times that it wasn't working on things that I know it has worked with previously and so I will restart nvda and sometimes that resolves the problem

I have also noticed this more recently and can't explain what brought about the change because I don't think nvda has been updated for some time on the computers I'm using

The other day I had a related experience while using a remote windows 10 computer and I couldn't get the system tray icons to be spoken

I realize that I am assuming what you meant and what I think you meant is using a physical mouse to explore by mouse the content on the display

Russ


On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 2:34 AM Eilana Benish <benish.ilana@...> wrote:

Hello everybody

I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button.

Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not.

I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not

Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name.

Hello everybody

I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button.

Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not.

I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not

Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name.


Thanks in advance for your comments, thoughts and ideas



Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

a question on a slight tangent ... I have a paid version of QRead 3.1 and want to stick with that version. I recently needed to replace my Surface Pro tablet with a newer model, and when I attempt to install QRead 3.1 on it, using the same email address and activation key that was provided, nothing happens. I still stay on the product avtivation page of the app, and if I close that down and re-start QRead, I am still greeted by the product activation page!

Does anybody have any idea what might be preventing me from registering QRead on my new tablet? I did ask this question through the QRead contact page, but no response as yet.

TIA :)

Giles


Reading be accessible name of an interactive components in screen readers

Eilana Benish
 

Hello everybody

I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button.

Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not.

I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not

Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name.

Hello everybody

I would like to understand what makes NVDA read the label or the accessible name when hovering with the mouse on button or image button.

Let's say that the button image button or other element in the form off interactive components has an accessible name. Sometimes NVDA will read the name and sumtimes not.

I must say that in JAWS screen reader, this function of reading the accessible name off interactive component works much better with mouse hover. For example I can hover on a button in Gmail app for the web and JAWS will read the accessible name and NVDA not

Since there are a lot of low vision users and other people with cognitive disabilities who can benefit from hearing the text that associated with the interactive component, it is important to understand the conditions that makes NVDA read the component name.


Thanks in advance for your comments, thoughts and ideas



Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

God bless you, Tony. I'll give it a try.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mani Iyer via groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 15:52
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer

Hello Tony,

This is very timely. I just downloaded the LibreOffice 7.2 beta version. I think I will choose this over Wordpad for editing my RTF documents. I only wish NVDA would speak the enter key (a complaint I mentioned earlier in a post). Well, I have to get used to it.


Thank you so much.


Warmly,

Mani



On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:


Hi,


As promised here are the keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office Writer. The libre office Calc keyboard shortcuts will be posted next.


Tony


        Keyboard shortcuts for Libre office writer

    Keyboard shortcut
Command

Control-a
 Select All

Control-b
Bold text

Control-c
Copies highlighted Text to the clipboard
Control-x
Cuts highlighted text to the clipboard
Control-v
 Pastes the highlighted text from the clipboard to the location that you specify

keep in mind that when the text is copied, it appears in both the original and the specified location.  
When the text is cut it appears in the specified location only

Control-Shift-v
Paste Special
pastes formatting, and formatted text from the clipboard

control-alt-shift-V
Pastes unformatted text from the clipboard  

  control-E
Centers text

Control f
Find text

Control    -g
Go To

control-H
Find and replace Text

Control-I
Italicize text

Control-J
Justify Text

Control-l
Left align text

Control-r
Right align text

Control-n
Creates a new blank Document

Control-o
Brings up the open file dialog box

Control-P
Brings up the Print Dialog box
    
Control-S
Saves the current open Document.  If it is a new one, the save as dialog box will open where you can give it a specific file name, save it with a specific file format extension such as .txt, .rtf, .doc, .docx, or in the case  of programs like open and libre office, .odt; and a specific location such as a folder on your hard drive, or external storage device.
    
 Control u
Underlines text

Control-y
 redoes your last action

control-z
 undoes your last action

Control-Shift-P
inserts superscript

Control-shift-b
Inserts subscript

Control-Enter
Page break

Navigation Keyboard shortcuts

left arrow
moves one character to the left

shift-left arrow
highlights the character to the left
   
Right arrow
moves one character to the right
Shift-right arrow
Highlights the character to the right

up arrow
moves up one line

Shift-up arrow
Highlights text in an upward direction

Down arrow
Moves down one line

Shift-down arrow
Highlights text in a downward direction

Control -left arrow
moves one word to the left

control-right arrow
moves one word to the right

Control-shift-left arrow
Highlights the word to the left

Control-Shift-right arrow
Highlights the word to the right

Control-up arrow
moves to the beginning of the previous paragraph

Control-shift-up arrow
 highlights the text to the beginning of the paragraph
Control-Down arrow
Moves to the end of the paragraph

Control-Shift-down arrow
Highlights the text to the end of the paragraph

Home
Moves to the beginning of the line
 shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the line
 
 End
Moves  to the end of the line
Shift-end
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the line

Control-home
moves the cursor to the beginning of the document


Control-End
Moves the cursor to the end of the document

Control-shift-home
Highlights the text from the cursor position to the beginning of the document

Control-shift-end
highlights the text from the cursor position to the end of the document

Page up
moves the cursor up one screen
(this is approximately 24 lines)

Page down
Moves the cursor down one screen
(This is approximately 24 lines)

Shift-page up
Highlights the text up by one screen

Shift-page down
Highlights the text down by one screen

Control-Backspace
Ce

Deletes the text to the beginning of the word

Control-delete
Deletes the text to the end of the word

Control-shift-backspace
deletes the text to the beginning of the sentence

Control-shift Delete
Deletes the text to the end of a sentence






On 12/3/2021 2:57 PM, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodr�guez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.


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Re: LibreOffice?

Viris g. Rodríguez <vgr.09.15@...>
 

Thanks a million.
Blessings.


----- Original Message -----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 14:05
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi


The following web page has a tutorial on how to use the program as well with nvda.

This is for the program you are looking at.


Jump down to the heading I think it is called tutorials for talking computers, there is a link below it that takes you to where they are..


The link to nvda tutorials for other programs is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

There may also be other tutorials on this page of interest as well.


Gene nz


On 4/12/2021 8:57 am, Viris g. Rodríguez wrote:

Thank you very much, Tony. Have a nice trip.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:40
Subject: Re: [nvda] LibreOffice?

Hi,


Libre office is a suite of productivity programs, not an antivirus application.  Like Open Office, It uses the  graphic user interface, similar to what was used in earlier versions of microsoft office prior to Office 2007 which introduced the ribbon interface. To my knowledge, NVDA supports both Libre Office Writer, and Libre Office Calc. Your screen reader will not have any problems with it.   I'll post the keyboard shortcuts for each of these applications when I return from the road later today. 


Tony

Tony

On 12/2/2021 11:35 PM, Viris g. Rodrýguez wrote:

Hello everybody. I think somebody mentioned LibreOffice a couple weeks ago. Mr. Quentin told me he was not sure as to whether the commands were the same as the ones used in Microsoft or something like that. I honestly don't remember pretty well.
If someone has used LibreOffice with NVDA, I would really appreciate any information. Is there an antivirus for this software?
Is Eloquence TTS compatible with it?
Are all the Microsoft functions and features available?
Thanks in advance.
Sincerely.

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