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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

 

This can be fixed with a regex match.
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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi Dan,

 

I agree with you.

I tried out your “[Blind-t] and found it just as you describe. When set to “Whole word”, the dictionary ignores the entry and converts it exactly when set to “Anywhere”!

 

I found a declaration that a hyphenated word is always treated as a whole word.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem with speech dictionaries again.

 

Hi Gene,

 

I thought about that and did check it and triple checked it. 

 

This occurs in the subject of emails from the blind tech mailing list.  I looked and it is showing up exactly as I typed it.  I checked the case of letters, made sure there weren't spaces in the string and other things.

 

The other instances of bracketed strings I have entries for are from other mailing lists and they work perfectly but this one does not.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

On 12/5/2021 4:16 PM, Gene wrote:

where does this text occur?  Can you check it, or have you, for spelling and punctuation?  There is probably something in the way it is written that differs from how you are writing it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Dan Beaver

Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2021 3:02 PM

Subject: [nvda] a problem with speech dictionaries again.

 

I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech" as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my dictionary entries.

 

I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole word.

 

I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].

 

Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

 

In most pattern matching, a word is defined by white space after it.

If your close square bracket is not followed by white space in the thing being matched, it won't match if whole word matching is used.

If how NVDA does this is different, then someone who knows this will certainly speak up.

Also if something other than white space abuts the open square bracket.
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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Dan Beaver
 

Thanks Brian,


I just looked and the answer is no. 


I did find the cause of the issue which I reported in my previous posting.


Thanks though.


Dan Beaver

On 12/5/2021 4:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I'm not at my computer right now (I'm backstage, managing props) but do you have any entries in your dictionary priot to that one that match any part of it and substitute something else?

More later, but that is something to check.
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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Dan Beaver
 

    OK, I am sure I tried setting the type field to anywhere and testing it but apparently not.  I just did again on a hunch and it works correctly.  However, if I set the type to whole word it does not work.  Seems to me it should work in either case since there are no spaces in the pattern string.


Why would it not work for whole word?


Dan Beaver

On 12/5/2021 4:02 PM, Dan Beaver via groups.io wrote:

I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech" as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my dictionary entries.


I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole word.


I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].


Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?


Thanks.



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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

 

I'm not at my computer right now (I'm backstage, managing props) but do you have any entries in your dictionary priot to that one that match any part of it and substitute something else?

More later, but that is something to check.
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Re: counting page and word on libra office.

Robert Portal
 

There is however a not entirely satisfactory work around to this problem possibly available from NVDA itself.

When in a Word document, if you select all (control A) NVDA will tell you how many key-strokes are in the document and if you divide that by 6 you will get a fairly precise estimate of the number of words. I think the document (or chunk of text selected) has to be over 1000 keystrokes (about 167 words) for the figure to be announced. I assume the same keystroke announcement is made in Libra Office Writer although I have never used it.

 

Of course it doesn’t help much with page numbers.

 

Best wishes

 

Robert

Da: nvda@nvda.groups.io Per conto di Brian Vogel
Inviato: dimanche 5 décembre 2021 17:43
A: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Oggetto: Re: [nvda] counting page and word on libra office.

 

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 01:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:

So, I think this place is appropriate to discuss it here.

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It is only appropriate insofar as it's accessibility with NVDA, which has been covered.

The commands to use any feature of Libre Office, Microsoft Office, or any program are not about NVDA, nor any screen reader for that matter.  They're about the program the screen reader is being used to access.

That being the case, it's not on-topic for the main NVDA group.  The Chat Subgroup is perfectly appropriate for questions regarding any software being used with NVDA.  There is also a Libre Office Accessibility group but I don't seem to have the addresses where I can easily find them.

If I knew the commands for word and page count in Libre Office I would have included them here, but I don't.  But any discussion of Libre Office programs and their functions is not on-topic for the NVDA main group.
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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Dan Beaver
 

Hi Gene,


I thought about that and did check it and triple checked it. 


This occurs in the subject of emails from the blind tech mailing list.  I looked and it is showing up exactly as I typed it.  I checked the case of letters, made sure there weren't spaces in the string and other things.


The other instances of bracketed strings I have entries for are from other mailing lists and they work perfectly but this one does not.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 12/5/2021 4:16 PM, Gene wrote:
where does this text occur?  Can you chec it, or have you, for spelling and punctuation?  There is probably something in the way it is written that differs from how you are writing it.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2021 3:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] a problem with speech dictionaries again.
 

I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech" as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my dictionary entries.


I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole word.


I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].


Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?


Thanks.



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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Gene
 

where does this text occur?  Can you chec it, or have you, for spelling and punctuation?  There is probably something in the way it is written that differs from how you are writing it.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2021 3:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] a problem with speech dictionaries again.
 

I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech" as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my dictionary entries.


I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole word.


I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].


Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?


Thanks.



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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


No, but i have some other entries with brackets and they work perfectly.  This is the only one that isn't working.


Dan Beaver

On 12/5/2021 4:06 PM, Jackie wrote:
Have you tried eliminating the brackets?

On 12/5/21, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech"
as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice
dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my
dictionary entries.


I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole
word.


I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].


Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?


Thanks.



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Re: a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Jackie
 

Have you tried eliminating the brackets?

On 12/5/21, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech"
as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice
dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my
dictionary entries.


I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole
word.


I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].


Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?


Thanks.



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a problem with speech dictionaries again.

Dan Beaver
 

I have tried adding a dictionary entry for "[blind-t]" and gave "blind tech" as the replacement string.  I have added this to the default and the voice dictionaries.  NVDA still pronounces "[blind-t]" as though it doesn't see my dictionary entries.


I also set case sensitivity to unchecked and type to anywhere and whole word.


I am running the latest RC and am running Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1348].


Any ideas why NVDA won't recognize that I have a dictionary entry for this?


Thanks.



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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Strange issue with Win11 (screen refreshing)

Sarah k Alawami
 

It happens on my origin pc actually, not as frequently, but when it happens it is annoying. I can’t pin point when it does happen as the last time  it happened was about 2 years ago, but what ever caused it to stop, I’m glad of that.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange issue with Win11 (screen refreshing)

 

Out of interest, have you had win10 installed on that Asus and, if so, did it happen then too? I ask because I have a 17-inch Asus gaming laptop running Win10, and it has always done this for me, much to my annoyance! I don't get it as frequently as you do, maybe once every 20 minutes or so. I get it when I'm listening to an album of music using WinAmp, when at some random point all of a sudden, NVDA will read the winAmp title bar! I get it when watching The Chase quiz show in Chrome browser, and I get it if I leave my computer to do something else!

I did ask about this in this group once before, and was advised to turn the logging level up and send a private message with the NVDA log, but I didn't know how to send it! I did save a log, and scoured it for any likely triggers, but nothing seemed suspicious.
It does sound like it is something in the Asus system that is causing this, and it would make me think carefully about buying another Asus laptop, even though I have loved mine otherwise.
Giles


Re: eBook Readers with NVDA

mk360
 

I really like the bookworm interface, but the problem is sometimes it skips pages when I'm reading with read all command, and for me that is not acceptable. However, if it has been solved from the last time that I used the program, I think is really a good option.

An other option is a spanish program called ebookreader, is not translated to english as I know, but is easy to use.

Regards,

mk.

El 02/12/2021 a las 14:43, mystragical@... escribió:
Try bookworm from BlindPandas. It's the best reading app in my opinion, for NVDA users. 
https://github.com/blindpandas/bookworm
It can be also found at:
https://getbookworm.com/


Re: inserting grammar and spelling suggestion on gmail with nvda

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 

Hi all,

Tray press control + left and right arrow for navigate the words, after navigate to character when you found a word with an error and tray press tab now.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, Comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web: https://nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

 

De: Fawaz Abdul rahman
Enviado: domingo, 5 de diciembre de 2021 4:04
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] inserting grammar and spelling suggestion on gmail with nvda

 

Hi,

try using the application key. That is what I do using firefox.

thanks.

 

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 9:54 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

I use windows 10 21h2, google chrome and nvda 2021.2.  I use standard view of Gmail. Earlier I could insert grammar and spelling suggestion. Recently, I have uninstalled and reinstalled chrome to fix some issue. Now, although Gmail shows grammar and spelling suggestion, I am not able to insert it. If I press tab, focus comes out of edit box. Earlier it did not used to happen. I could insert those suggestion pressing tab. how can I fix it?

 


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Re: counting page and word on libra office.

 

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 01:47 AM, farhan israk wrote:
So, I think this place is appropriate to discuss it here.
-
It is only appropriate insofar as it's accessibility with NVDA, which has been covered.

The commands to use any feature of Libre Office, Microsoft Office, or any program are not about NVDA, nor any screen reader for that matter.  They're about the program the screen reader is being used to access.

That being the case, it's not on-topic for the main NVDA group.  The Chat Subgroup is perfectly appropriate for questions regarding any software being used with NVDA.  There is also a Libre Office Accessibility group but I don't seem to have the addresses where I can easily find them.

If I knew the commands for word and page count in Libre Office I would have included them here, but I don't.  But any discussion of Libre Office programs and their functions is not on-topic for the NVDA main group.
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Re: Strange issue with Win11 (screen refreshing)

Giles Turnbull
 

Out of interest, have you had win10 installed on that Asus and, if so, did it happen then too? I ask because I have a 17-inch Asus gaming laptop running Win10, and it has always done this for me, much to my annoyance! I don't get it as frequently as you do, maybe once every 20 minutes or so. I get it when I'm listening to an album of music using WinAmp, when at some random point all of a sudden, NVDA will read the winAmp title bar! I get it when watching The Chase quiz show in Chrome browser, and I get it if I leave my computer to do something else!

I did ask about this in this group once before, and was advised to turn the logging level up and send a private message with the NVDA log, but I didn't know how to send it! I did save a log, and scoured it for any likely triggers, but nothing seemed suspicious.
It does sound like it is something in the Asus system that is causing this, and it would make me think carefully about buying another Asus laptop, even though I have loved mine otherwise.
Giles


Re: inserting grammar and spelling suggestion on gmail with nvda

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,
try using the application key. That is what I do using firefox.
thanks.


On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 9:54 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:
I use windows 10 21h2, google chrome and nvda 2021.2.  I use standard view of Gmail. Earlier I could insert grammar and spelling suggestion. Recently, I have uninstalled and reinstalled chrome to fix some issue. Now, although Gmail shows grammar and spelling suggestion, I am not able to insert it. If I press tab, focus comes out of edit box. Earlier it did not used to happen. I could insert those suggestion pressing tab. how can I fix it?


inserting grammar and spelling suggestion on gmail with nvda

farhan israk
 

I use windows 10 21h2, google chrome and nvda 2021.2.  I use standard view of Gmail. Earlier I could insert grammar and spelling suggestion. Recently, I have uninstalled and reinstalled chrome to fix some issue. Now, although Gmail shows grammar and spelling suggestion, I am not able to insert it. If I press tab, focus comes out of edit box. Earlier it did not used to happen. I could insert those suggestion pressing tab. how can I fix it?


counting page and word on libra office.

farhan israk
 

Recently I have seen some discussion regarding libra office here. So, I think this place is appropriate to discuss it here. I have tried it few months ago. that time could not count page and word. does the current version allow to count them with latest nvda?

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