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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Well technically you can ocr, copy the screen, or select all then copy then paste.

While the loading of the file in adobe acrobat is not much faster the fact adobe reader takes a minute or so after compiling the file its probably a little quicker.

Where I will see this coming into its own  will be with non accessible pdfs, or non web pdfs the ocr in adobe can't handle.

As well as images.

Scanned images are not ocred and adobe can't read them.

I mean we have codex for some of the ebooks.

But the only place you can get a compiled coppy is from my keybase, and while there is code, you will need to get calibre portable either 64 or 32 bit and then drop it in there following instructions then the right tools to compile the version which looks not to be the latest compiled.

It would be nice if someone at least had it up somewhere in compiled form even if that was all that was done.

To be honest what I'd really like is an accessible accessible front end for my calibre interface that can use portable or installed calibre as I have it installed for some other stuff.


On 9/12/2021 5:56 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I could use the ocr function of nvda but sometimes windows ocr is not all that grate.
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This add-on still employs Windows OCR.  It is nice that it can do whole files for when you want to get a "quick and dirty" read.  But when it comes to things like PDF files, if you intend to use that same file again and again it makes more sense to apply OCR to the file itself and save the text layer with it so that you never need to OCR it again.  That's not a criticism of the add-on, though, as it doesn't seem to me that this is the purpose of the tool.  It's got "quick and dirty" one-time or very occasional reading of a given file as its target.
 
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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 12:01 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
All you need now is an option to scan from a camera or flatbed scanner connected to the computer.
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That would be great, wouldn't it?  Would certainly make dealing with daily mail easier (among other things).
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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

Great stuff well done.

All you need now is an option to scan from a camera or flatbed scanner connected to the computer. Could be NVDA Shift A for Acquire image from camera or scanner? Then you have a complete scanning package for NVDA.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simone Dal Maso
Sent: 08 December 2021 09:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Hello,

I am part of a developer team of a new addon.


I'd like to inform you that yesterday we published the first version of Nao, NVDA Advanced OCR.

I paste the little readme file and at last I put the link for download.

Feedback and suggestions are welcome!


Nao is an addon that improves the standard OCR capabilities that NVDA provides on modern Windows versions. While NVDA standard command uses Windows OCR to recognize the screen, NAO is able to make the OCR on files saved on your hard drive or USB devices. Use NVDA-Shift-R to recognize any sorts of images and pdf! Simply put the focus / cursor on the file you desire, don't open it, but hit NVDA-Shift-r. The document will be recognized and a simple text editfield will appear, allowing you to read the entire content. Nao is able to handle also multipage pdf, so if you have a not accessible document, don't worry, Windows OCR will be able to make yhr entire work.


System Requirements
The addon works on Windows 10 and Windows 11 systems, since they have OCR capabilities builtin. Nao is compatible from NVDA version 2021.2, so don't use older versions of the screen reader. Note that Nao works with Windows Explorer, on desktop, or with Total Commander filemanager; don't use other software like 7zip or Winrar , since they are not supported.

Features and commands
• NVDA + Shift + R: recognize any sorts of images and pdf from file system; ◦ PgUp / PgDown: move the cursor between real pages of a multipages document.
◦ NVDA + Shift + P: report page number related to the cursor position, in a multipage document.
• NVDA + Shift + Ctrl + R: take a full screen shot and recognize it.


Github repository:

https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao

Latest version:

https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao/releases/download/v_2021.1.07/nao-2021.1.07.nvda-addon


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:58 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Maybe show in TXT file the results of recognition of a text file
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Please elaborate on what you mean by this.

I cannot for the life of me understand it.  A text file is text.  You open it, you have the screen reader read it.  OCR and a text file don't go together, as there's nothing to OCR, it's already plain text.
 
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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:52 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
because if I need to read any images now I can
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I have to presume those must be images that contain text.  That may be a given, but I would really prefer when "reading images" is talked about it be differentiated.

The ability to OCR an image with much text is completely different than image description, and both are valuable.
 
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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Rui Fontes
 

Maybe show in TXT file the results of recognition of a text file, and like NVDA does, in a virtual text the results from a screen capture?


Rui Fontes


Às 16:48 de 08/12/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

What if you want to keep the formatting though. I’m thinking if I screenshot a window  I could then click where the item is by hitting enter. Is this going to be possible with this add on? I could use the ocr function of nvda but sometimes windows ocr is not all that grate. If this improves  I could use that to replace windows ocr when ever I need to ocr a window after taking a screen cap of it then clicking where the object is.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Maybe to show the results in a TXT file instead of a virtual document...

 

Rui Fontes

Às 15:48 de 08/12/2021, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:

 

Il 08/12/2021 15:47, abdul muhamin ha scritto:

Please add support for the .txt files.

 

 Hello, I'm sorry but I don't understand your request.

Txt files are accessible, why do you want support for that?

 

 


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I could use the ocr function of nvda but sometimes windows ocr is not all that grate.
-
This add-on still employs Windows OCR.  It is nice that it can do whole files for when you want to get a "quick and dirty" read.  But when it comes to things like PDF files, if you intend to use that same file again and again it makes more sense to apply OCR to the file itself and save the text layer with it so that you never need to OCR it again.  That's not a criticism of the add-on, though, as it doesn't seem to me that this is the purpose of the tool.  It's got "quick and dirty" one-time or very occasional reading of a given file as its target.
 
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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

For those having issues with say a large file, I read a big book now and it took a bit a 300 page monster I just brought last week in fact.

The only thing I'd like added would be the decoding of epub files that would be cool.

For those having issues with the reading the window later, yeah you tab and its gone.

You hit things which are not the curser and its gone.

the window isn't a perminant fixture.

So after you read, hit control a, then control c, then paste it into word or notepad or something, save and read and tbob's your uncle.

I am going to place this on all my systems I administrait, because if I need to read any images now I can, good work.

Ooh and if the devs support donations give me a paypal address I can send  a 20 at, because I will be using this.

This is a good christmas present for some of us especially those that can't afford christmas, I am not one of those persons but this is a bonus.



On 9/12/2021 5:43 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

That's a yes and a no. Without going into details (in consideration of the audience here), if the add-on (specifically, the global plugin) detects it is focused on Excel cell, it can perform the task associated with this command (gesture) in Excel, namely row header script, so that's a yes. It's also a no because of two reasons:

  1. Global plugins are consulted first when a user performs a command. In case of this situation, NAO would be consulted first, and the global plugin can choose to perform its duties or perform Excel specific command. Therefore, it is critical that global plugin authors come up with ways to honor app scenarios if possible.
  2. What if a person presses NVDA+Shift+R multiple times? This is used in Excel - when NVDA+Shift+R is pressed once, focused cell is marked as row header cell, and the user would press this command twice to clear this marker. If NAO does not check how many times a person presses NVDA+Shift+R, only part of the row header command would be performed.

These are the ones I can think of (again I won't go into code since this is a user-centric forum).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: News – NV Access - NVDA 2021.3 Released #nvaccessnewsfeed

Niranjan Vala
 

Hello Quentin, I am Niranjan from India and I would like to inquire about the donation options on nvaccess.org. When I tried the single donation option and tried payment via paypal, It said "Payments are not accepted from this country yet". It even doesn't work if I try to pay via credit or debit card options. What should we Indians do if we want to donate?


On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 at 17:43, nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io> wrote:

NVDA 2021.3 Released

By Reef Turner

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2021.3 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, is now available for download. We encourage all users to upgrade to this version.

Highlights

This release introduces support for the new HID Braille specification. This specification aims to standardize support for Braille Displays without needing individual drivers. There are updates to eSpeak-NG and LibLouis, including new Russian and Tshivenda tables. Error sounds can be enabled in stable builds of NVDA via a new advanced settings option. Say all in Word now scrolls the view to keep the current position visible. There are lots of improvements when using Office with UIA. One UIA fix is that Outlook now ignores more types of layout tables in messages.

Important Note: Due to an update to our security certificate, a small number of users get an error when NVDA 2021.2 checks for updates. NVDA now asks Windows to update security certificates, which will prevent this error in the future. Affected users will need to download this update manually.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:45 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Txt files are not images.
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Indeed.  That file extension, when used as directed, means, "text."  There's no need to OCR plain text; it's text.

Someone could be engaging in subterfuge by renaming a file of a different type with a txt extension, but if that's the case the problem lies with the source.
 
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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Sarah k Alawami
 

What if you want to keep the formatting though. I’m thinking if I screenshot a window  I could then click where the item is by hitting enter. Is this going to be possible with this add on? I could use the ocr function of nvda but sometimes windows ocr is not all that grate. If this improves  I could use that to replace windows ocr when ever I need to ocr a window after taking a screen cap of it then clicking where the object is.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Maybe to show the results in a TXT file instead of a virtual document...

 

Rui Fontes

Às 15:48 de 08/12/2021, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:

 

Il 08/12/2021 15:47, abdul muhamin ha scritto:

Please add support for the .txt files.

 

 Hello, I'm sorry but I don't understand your request.

Txt files are accessible, why do you want support for that?

 

 

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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Sarah k Alawami
 

Txt files are not images. They should not be anyway. So ocr on txt is not really a necessary thing.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Please add support for the .txt files, it will be the good alternative for the file reader addon, I’m eagerly waiting for that addon to be compatible for the latest NVDA, I used to read the move list for the fighting games

 

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From: mehmet çetin
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

hello, this add-on makes ocr files in which extension except pdf, and the

add-on did not work for me, the windows system I use is windows 11

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kenny Cheung" <kennycheung0@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 4:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

 

Hi Simone,

I’m just wondering if you saw my reply.

 

Sent from Kenny’s iPhone

 

> On Dec 8, 2021, at 04:10, Simone Dal Maso <simone.dalmaso@...>

> wrote:

> Hello,

> I am part of a developer team of a new addon.

> I'd like to inform you that yesterday  we published the first version of

> Nao, NVDA Advanced OCR.

> I paste the little readme file and at last I put the link for download.

> Feedback and suggestions are welcome!

> Nao is an addon that improves the standard OCR capabilities that NVDA

> provides on modern Windows versions. While NVDA standard command uses

> Windows OCR to recognize the screen, NAO is able to make the OCR on files

> saved on your hard drive or USB devices. Use NVDA-Shift-R to recognize any

> sorts of images and pdf! Simply put the focus / cursor on the file you

> desire, don't open it, but hit NVDA-Shift-r. The document will be

> recognized and a simple text editfield will appear, allowing you to read

> the entire content. Nao is able to handle also multipage pdf, so if you

> have a not accessible document, don't worry, Windows OCR will be able to

> make yhr entire work.

> System Requirements

> The addon works on Windows 10 and Windows 11 systems, since they have OCR

> capabilities builtin. Nao is compatible from NVDA version 2021.2, so don't

> use older versions of the screen reader. Note that Nao works with Windows

> Explorer, on desktop, or with Total Commander filemanager; don't use other

> software like 7zip or Winrar , since they are not supported.

> Features and commands

> • NVDA + Shift + R: recognize any sorts of images and pdf from file

> system;

> ◦ PgUp / PgDown: move the cursor between real pages of a multipages

> document.

> ◦ NVDA + Shift + P: report page number related to the cursor position, in

> a multipage document.

> • NVDA + Shift + Ctrl + R: take a full screen shot and recognize it.

> Github repository:

> https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao

> Latest version:

> https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao/releases/download/v_2021.1.07/nao-2021.1.07.nvda-addon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Hi,

That's a yes and a no. Without going into details (in consideration of the audience here), if the add-on (specifically, the global plugin) detects it is focused on Excel cell, it can perform the task associated with this command (gesture) in Excel, namely row header script, so that's a yes. It's also a no because of two reasons:

  1. Global plugins are consulted first when a user performs a command. In case of this situation, NAO would be consulted first, and the global plugin can choose to perform its duties or perform Excel specific command. Therefore, it is critical that global plugin authors come up with ways to honor app scenarios if possible.
  2. What if a person presses NVDA+Shift+R multiple times? This is used in Excel - when NVDA+Shift+R is pressed once, focused cell is marked as row header cell, and the user would press this command twice to clear this marker. If NAO does not check how many times a person presses NVDA+Shift+R, only part of the row header command would be performed.

These are the ones I can think of (again I won't go into code since this is a user-centric forum).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Well technically you could use windows scan to do that.

Some scanners like my brother and hp have web scanning from their various interfaces which will create image pdfs that you can fead this bastard with so its all good.

On 9/12/2021 3:02 am, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hi.

This certainly sounds like an excellent add-on. Does anyone know if there is a similar add-on or function to scan directly from twain scanners or cameras? That is the 1 missing function in my humble opinion.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/12/2021 11:24, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi, Simone,

This is n excellent piece of work! I have just tried the add-on with a bank statement in bitmap form file in my Downloads folder. It works like a dream!
Yesterday, I tried to read the same file by using NVDA + r to OCR the Adobe screen displaying the statement. This gave me only a partial read of the contents. I am sure this was limited by the way Adobe was displaying the image.

Just now, I pointed to the closed file in my downloads folder and press NVDA+shift+r and, almost instantly, a crisp, clear version of the statement page appeared without all the material that complicated the Adobe-based image.

Many thanks to you and to the developer team and for sharing this great tool!


All the best,

Cearbhall

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simone Dal Maso
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 9:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Hello,

I am part of a developer team of a new addon.


I'd like to inform you that yesterday  we published the first version of Nao, NVDA Advanced OCR.

I paste the little readme file and at last I put the link for download.

Feedback and suggestions are welcome!


Nao is an addon that improves the standard OCR capabilities that NVDA provides on modern Windows versions. While NVDA standard command uses Windows OCR to recognize the screen, NAO is able to make the OCR on files saved on your hard drive or USB devices. Use NVDA-Shift-R to recognize any sorts of images and pdf! Simply put the focus / cursor on the file you desire, don't open it, but hit NVDA-Shift-r. The document will be recognized and a simple text editfield will appear, allowing you to read the entire content. Nao is able to handle also multipage pdf, so if you have a not accessible document, don't worry, Windows OCR will be able to make yhr entire work.


System Requirements
The addon works on Windows 10 and Windows 11 systems, since they have OCR capabilities builtin. Nao is compatible from NVDA version 2021.2, so don't use older versions of the screen reader. Note that Nao works with Windows Explorer, on desktop, or with Total Commander filemanager; don't use other software like 7zip or Winrar , since they are not supported.

Features and commands
• NVDA + Shift + R: recognize any sorts of images and pdf from file system; ◦ PgUp / PgDown: move the cursor between real pages of a multipages document.
◦ NVDA + Shift + P: report page number related to the cursor position, in a multipage document.
• NVDA + Shift + Ctrl + R: take a full screen shot and recognize it.


Github repository:

https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao

Latest version:

https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao/releases/download/v_2021.1.07/nao-2021.1.07.nvda-addon







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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Tried on my machine with Windows 11 Version 21H2 (OS Compilation 22000.318) and the results are:

With NVDA 2021.3 the recognition works and the results can be read with arrows.

In a large PDF file, with almost 1 Mb, I can read the results, but after some readings the virtual document dissapear...


With NVDA last Alpha, the recognition happens, but the results can't be read...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 15:40 de 08/12/2021, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escreveu:

Simone and Brian,

I am reading Brian's problem with concern that there might be an implication that this add-on is not effective. I am using the add-on on Windows 10
Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1348)
With NVDA 2021.3 and the previous version of NVDA.
I have tried the add-on on a single image pdf document and on an image.tif document with perfect results.
I am moving the up and down arrow keys to traverse the result perfectly and the left and right arrows with equal success.
I have also managed to copy the result screen to the clipboard and paste it into an open notes document.

All this is, of course, only what the add-on is expected to do. So, brian, I am surprised at your difficulty and hope you find what is causing this problem for you.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 2:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Hi. No worries, this is how you troubleshoot things.

Desktop mechanical USB keyboard with regular arrow keys.


If it would help, happy to do an nvda remote session if that would help.


I am in Canada eastern time.


Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 2021-12-08 8:32 a.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Il 08/12/2021 13:57, Brian Moore ha scritto:
The ocr process happens and I hear "result document" and the first
line of the file but as soon as I press an arrow key to read the
rest, the result vanishes and I am taken back to the folder from
where I initiated the ocr.
Ok, I will contact the developers for this.

Are you using a laptop? Or an usb keyboard?

The fact is that it seems that for some reasons the addon doesn't
intercept the arrow keys.

Are you using the normal arrow keys or for example some emulations or
numpad keys?


Sorry for all these questions but it is to understand the problem.











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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Rui Fontes
 

Maybe to show the results in a TXT file instead of a virtual document...


Rui Fontes

Às 15:48 de 08/12/2021, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:


Il 08/12/2021 15:47, abdul muhamin ha scritto:

Please add support for the .txt files.


 Hello, I'm sorry but I don't understand your request.

Txt files are accessible, why do you want support for that?




Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Rui Fontes
 

Joseph, the command for NAO is only aplicable for recognizing files, so, it is only necessary to do not allow this command to work in Word or Excel...


Rui Fontes


Às 15:53 de 08/12/2021, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi Simone,

I cannot comment on some technical details here (this is a list for users, after all), but I can say that this add-on has potential and can see some improvements.

One feedback item is command conflict. Currently NVDA+Shift+R is assigned to recognize the currently focused file, which conflicts with row header assignment command in Excel. There are other suggestions (such as using script decorator and using controlTypes.* directly instead of going through api.controlTypes route), but I think resolving command conflicts would make the add-on more useful.

Keep up the good work (as always, an offer to post this on NVDA add-ons list and get some technical feedback is available).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Gene
 

I don’t know if it would make things too complicated, but perhaps you might have an option to process a certain number of pages at a time so an entire large document doesn’t have to be processed at once.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.
 

 

Il 08/12/2021 15:43, abdul muhamin ha scritto:

Hi, I tried to read the file, but the processing is taking too much time, specially for the large pdf files. can you make it a bit faster?

 

Hello,

I think it depends from the file size.

Normally, the speed is about 1 page per second.

But if you for example have a scanned pdf of 50 or more  megabytes, it takes more time and you can wait 30 seconds.

We can think a procedure for big file, thank you for your report.

 

 


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Brian Moore
 

Hi.  Not sure why. I will try on a couple of more machines and see if I get a different result. Perhaps, there is something particular to this machine. I will report back.

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On 2021-12-08 10:40 a.m., Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Simone and Brian,

I am reading Brian's problem with concern that there might be an implication that this add-on is not effective. I am using the add-on on Windows 10
Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1348)
With NVDA 2021.3 and the previous version of NVDA.
I have tried the add-on on a single image pdf document and on an image.tif document with perfect results.
I am moving the up and down arrow keys to traverse the result perfectly and the left and right arrows with equal success.
I have also managed to copy the result screen to the clipboard and paste it into an open notes document.

All this is, of course, only what the add-on is expected to do. So, brian, I am surprised at your difficulty and hope you find what is causing this problem for you.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Moore
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Hi. No worries, this is how you troubleshoot things.

Desktop mechanical USB keyboard with regular arrow keys.


If it would help, happy to do an nvda remote session if that would help.


I am in Canada eastern time.


Brian.

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On 2021-12-08 8:32 a.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Il 08/12/2021 13:57, Brian Moore ha scritto:
The ocr process happens and I hear "result document" and the first
line of the file but as soon as I press an arrow key to read the
rest, the result vanishes and I am taken back to the folder from
where I initiated the ocr.
Ok, I will contact the developers for this.

Are you using a laptop? Or an usb keyboard?

The fact is that it seems that for some reasons the addon doesn't
intercept the arrow keys.

Are you using the normal arrow keys or for example some emulations or
numpad keys?


Sorry for all these questions but it is to understand the problem.











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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Hi Simone,

I cannot comment on some technical details here (this is a list for users, after all), but I can say that this add-on has potential and can see some improvements.

One feedback item is command conflict. Currently NVDA+Shift+R is assigned to recognize the currently focused file, which conflicts with row header assignment command in Excel. There are other suggestions (such as using script decorator and using controlTypes.* directly instead of going through api.controlTypes route), but I think resolving command conflicts would make the add-on more useful.

Keep up the good work (as always, an offer to post this on NVDA add-ons list and get some technical feedback is available).

Cheers,

Joseph

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