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Re: help with Weather-Plus

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I am using the one that just came out.

On 12/9/2021 10:49 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
are you really using the latest NVDA? if your version isn't 2021.3, you're not talking about the latest one, and I recommend updating if you haven't.

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 23:28, Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> escreveu:
I had forgotten that this ad-on was not on this laptop until today. I am
trying to figure out--I am using the latest version of NVDA--that when I
have it check the weather for two days it is giving yesterday's forecast
and today's. Is there something I am doing incorrectly or is it possible
this is something to do with the latest NVDA update?

When I check the date on the computer it is the correct date for today.

Thanks for any suggestions. I am so glad to have it once again. Thank
you for such great documentation on this ad-on.


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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:38 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Most non-laptop keyboards don't have an FN key.
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If you can show me a regular keyboard without a FN key, I'd like to see it.  The function key has been a staple of PC keyboards, period, for as long as I've been using PCs, which is since their introduction.
 
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Tyler Spivey
 

Most non-laptop keyboards don't have an FN key. What does ALT+FN+F4 say in NVDA's input help when you press it?

On 12/9/2021 8:35 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
To close the tab you are in, control f4. -
Which is not what I said.  And you're not incorrect.
If you want to close a single window, and all its tabs, of a program that has multiple windows open you use ALT + FN + F4.  Since that's what CTRL + SHIFT + W happens to do in Chrome, and what was being talked about in that context, I brought up the Windows "generic" command that causes the same thing to occur.
CTRL + W also closes a tab, too, but I didn't bring that up.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
To close the tab you are in, control f4. 
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Which is not what I said.  And you're not incorrect.

If you want to close a single window, and all its tabs, of a program that has multiple windows open you use ALT + FN + F4.  Since that's what CTRL + SHIFT + W happens to do in Chrome, and what was being talked about in that context, I brought up the Windows "generic" command that causes the same thing to occur.

CTRL + W also closes a tab, too, but I didn't bring that up.
 
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Gene
 

Not alt fn f4;.  To close the tab you are in, control f4. 
 
Gene

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On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:02 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
i think better we can press NVDA+f2 and the next shortcut will be ignored by NVDA
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Which is true, you can use the pass-through command.  I'm just not sure why you'd want to.  There is another command that does what you want to do unless you've got multiple Chrome windows open and only want to close one of them with all its tabs.

If one wants to only close the window with focus of a program that's got multiple open windows, ALT + FN + F4 does that.

If one wants to close the program, ALT + F4 does that.

Fewer keystrokes than using passthrough followed by CTRL + SHIFT + W
 
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:02 PM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
i think better we can press NVDA+f2 and the next shortcut will be ignored by NVDA
-
Which is true, you can use the pass-through command.  I'm just not sure why you'd want to.  There is another command that does what you want to do unless you've got multiple Chrome windows open and only want to close one of them with all its tabs.

If one wants to only close the window with focus of a program that's got multiple open windows, ALT + FN + F4 does that.

If one wants to close the program, ALT + F4 does that.

Fewer keystrokes than using passthrough followed by CTRL + SHIFT + W
 
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

ok sorry brian now that i think better we can press NVDA+f2 and the next shortcut will be ignored by NVDA

Em sex., 10 de dez. de 2021 às 00:56, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 09:29 PM, Jackie wrote:
Having thus said, alt f4 can substitute for ctrl shift w in Chrome, but I don't see anywhere where NVDA even uses this.
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Jackie,

You are indeed correct that NVDA itself does not use this shortcut, but the Weather_Plus add-on does.  Here's the description:

'Adds local temperature and forecast 24 ours and prediction up to 9 days.\n', 'NVDA+w for the current bulletin.\n', 'NVDA+shift+w for the prediction in the current 24 hours and prediction up to 9 days.\n', 'NVDA+shift+control+w for quickly enter a temporary city.\n', 'NVDA + shift + control + alt + w for open the Weather Plus settings.\n', 'NVDA+alt+w announces the date of the last update of the weather report.\n', 'Shift+control+w alternates between Fahrenheit, Celsius and Kelvin.\n', 'For other instructions, you can also press Add-on Help button in Add-ons manager.'

But it's ludicrous to declare that any add-on developer must substitute a keyboard shortcut.  There are a finite number of keyboard shortcuts, and there will always, always be possibilities of overlap.  In a case like this, I would expect that NVDA (or, more accurately, the Weather_Plus add-on) would intercept this shortcut, so it would have no effect in the Chrome browser, but I could be wrong about that.  If, by some chance, it were being passed through to Chrome, then it could be remapped in input gestures.  No developer can know what specific programs any given individual user might be using, and if an alternative exists for the same function, and closing the browser is one, then there's no problem.

As you've noted, ALT + F4 does precisely the same thing as CTRL + SHIFT + W in Chrome itself.  I use CTRL + W to close individual tabs all the time, but if I want to exit Chrome or any other program in its entirety I rely exclusively on the Windows-wide keyboard shortcut for that purpose, ALT + F4.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 09:29 PM, Jackie wrote:
Having thus said, alt f4 can substitute for ctrl shift w in Chrome, but I don't see anywhere where NVDA even uses this.
-
Jackie,

You are indeed correct that NVDA itself does not use this shortcut, but the Weather_Plus add-on does.  Here's the description:

'Adds local temperature and forecast 24 ours and prediction up to 9 days.\n', 'NVDA+w for the current bulletin.\n', 'NVDA+shift+w for the prediction in the current 24 hours and prediction up to 9 days.\n', 'NVDA+shift+control+w for quickly enter a temporary city.\n', 'NVDA + shift + control + alt + w for open the Weather Plus settings.\n', 'NVDA+alt+w announces the date of the last update of the weather report.\n', 'Shift+control+w alternates between Fahrenheit, Celsius and Kelvin.\n', 'For other instructions, you can also press Add-on Help button in Add-ons manager.'

But it's ludicrous to declare that any add-on developer must substitute a keyboard shortcut.  There are a finite number of keyboard shortcuts, and there will always, always be possibilities of overlap.  In a case like this, I would expect that NVDA (or, more accurately, the Weather_Plus add-on) would intercept this shortcut, so it would have no effect in the Chrome browser, but I could be wrong about that.  If, by some chance, it were being passed through to Chrome, then it could be remapped in input gestures.  No developer can know what specific programs any given individual user might be using, and if an alternative exists for the same function, and closing the browser is one, then there's no problem.

As you've noted, ALT + F4 does precisely the same thing as CTRL + SHIFT + W in Chrome itself.  I use CTRL + W to close individual tabs all the time, but if I want to exit Chrome or any other program in its entirety I rely exclusively on the Windows-wide keyboard shortcut for that purpose, ALT + F4.
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Re: help with Weather-Plus

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

are you really using the latest NVDA? if your version isn't 2021.3, you're not talking about the latest one, and I recommend updating if you haven't.

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 23:28, Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> escreveu:

I had forgotten that this ad-on was not on this laptop until today. I am
trying to figure out--I am using the latest version of NVDA--that when I
have it check the weather for two days it is giving yesterday's forecast
and today's. Is there something I am doing incorrectly or is it possible
this is something to do with the latest NVDA update?

When I check the date on the computer it is the correct date for today.

Thanks for any suggestions. I am so glad to have it once again. Thank
you for such great documentation on this ad-on.


--
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Re: DVD player apps for WIN 10

Noah Davis
 

Hi,
I use VLC and like it a lot.
It can of course be used for more than DVD's, but that is primarily
what I use it for.
-Noah

On 12/9/21, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Hello. Are their any free accessible DVD player apps for WIN 10? Just
bought A Charlie Brown Christmas on Amazon. Thanks.







DVD player apps for WIN 10

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Hello. Are their any free accessible DVD player apps for WIN 10? Just bought A Charlie Brown Christmas on Amazon. Thanks.


Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Jackie
 

NVDA commands are prefaced w/the NVDA key of your choosing so as
specifically not to interfere w/other keyboard shortcuts. Having thus
said, alt f4 can substitute for ctrl shift w in Chrome, but I don't
see anywhere where NVDA even uses this.

On 12/9/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
sará, I can do this, but it should have another command by default

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 22:05, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>
escreveu:

Can you change that in the gestures dialogue to something that works on
your computer? I would have to have a play to see what could work.



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hi friends, this command is used in google chrome to close all tabs, so
this command must be changed to not conflict.







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help with Weather-Plus

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I had forgotten that this ad-on was not on this laptop until today. I am trying to figure out--I am using the latest version of NVDA--that when I have it check the weather for two days it is giving yesterday's forecast and today's. Is there something I am doing incorrectly or is it possible this is something to do with the latest NVDA update?

When I check the date on the computer it is the correct date for today.

Thanks for any suggestions. I am so glad to have it once again. Thank you for such great documentation on this ad-on.


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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Simone and Brian,

I am using the add-on on windows 11, specifically, Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.348)
Running NVDA 2021.3.

I have tried it on *.tif files and it has worked as described.

I am not seeing Brian's problem. I am on a USB keyboard on my desktop.

Pranav


Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

sará, I can do this, but it should have another command by default

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 22:05, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> escreveu:

Can you change that in the gestures dialogue to something that works on your computer? I would have to have a play to see what could work.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

hi friends, this command is used in google chrome to close all tabs, so this command must be changed to not conflict.


Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you change that in the gestures dialogue to something that works on your computer? I would have to have a play to see what could work.

 

Take care.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

hi friends, this command is used in google chrome to close all tabs, so this command must be changed to not conflict.


Re: Tables and blank lines in Outlook

Sarah k Alawami
 

Tables are for html apps only such as edge and electron apps I believe and no to your first question. Just use say all if you want to  git rid of the blank lines. I do arrow but only if I know there is a code I need to read etc but that’s rare.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tables and blank lines in Outlook

 

Hello. I’m trying to get more acquainted with NVDA and have a couple of questions regarding configuration and how it performs in Outlook messages.

  1. When arrowing through open Outlook email and messages, blank lines just get in the way and adds unnecessary time to reading email. Is there a setting that will tell NVDA to either ignore or skip bland lines? If no I would love to see such a setting in the future. I know that of course I just use read to end but I really prefer arrowing down through a message.
  2. The same goes for tables also in Outlook. They really slow things up when reading. I know there are table settings but are they applied strictly to the program in focus, or are they applied globally to everything?

Thanks for reading and looking forward to any answers or suggestions

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

hi friends, this command is used in google chrome to close all tabs, so this command must be changed to not conflict.


Tables and blank lines in Outlook

Rick Alfaro
 

Hello. I’m trying to get more acquainted with NVDA and have a couple of questions regarding configuration and how it performs in Outlook messages.

  1. When arrowing through open Outlook email and messages, blank lines just get in the way and adds unnecessary time to reading email. Is there a setting that will tell NVDA to either ignore or skip bland lines? If no I would love to see such a setting in the future. I know that of course I just use read to end but I really prefer arrowing down through a message.
  2. The same goes for tables also in Outlook. They really slow things up when reading. I know there are table settings but are they applied strictly to the program in focus, or are they applied globally to everything?

Thanks for reading and looking forward to any answers or suggestions

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Kevin Cussick
 

I get the same problems here and it is a Usb keyboard that came with this all in one computer hope this might help.

On 08/12/2021 13:32, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Il 08/12/2021 13:57, Brian Moore ha scritto:

 The ocr process happens and I hear "result document" and the first line of the file but as soon as I press an arrow key to read the rest, the result vanishes and I am taken back to the folder from where I initiated the ocr.
Ok, I will contact the developers for this.
Are you using a laptop? Or an usb keyboard?
The fact is that it seems that for some reasons the addon doesn't intercept the arrow keys.
Are you using the normal arrow keys or for example some emulations or numpad keys?
Sorry for all these questions but it is to understand the problem.

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