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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

abdul muhamin
 

Hi all, I’ve found another problem in the addon, this addon also conflict with the gold wave addon, pressing NVDA plus shift plus r announces remaining time for the currently editing track in gold wave, so if the nao addon is installed, this command is unuseable in gold wave. Hopefully, this will be fixed in the next version!

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 10:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

 

 

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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Released!

 

David,

I respectfully request that you do not post the same question in two separate threads.  You have already been answered by myself and another member in the dedicated topic you created.

Also, you have been a member for a while, there have been many, many, many discussions about NVDA 2021.2 having issues with updating due to some involvement of Windows 10 certificates, all of which is fixed with NVDA 2021.3, which must be downloaded manually and installed rather than using NVDA's built-in updating functionality.  After that, things to back to normal.
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Re: I'm having problems when i check for updates as well as the new advanced OCR ad-on for nvda?

 

David,
 
I have a suspicion that you're still using NVDA 2021.2, which has well documented issues with updating under certain circumstances.

Manually download and install NVDA 2021.3, then report back.  There are, to my knowledge, no updates yet for NVDA Advanced OCR, and since it's not (yet) a part of the official NVDA add-ons or featured at the NVDA Add-Ons directory site (after all, it was just announced that it existed) it will probably be a while until Add-On Updater is handling this add-on.  But right now there's nothing to update.
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Re: I'm having problems when i check for updates as well as the new advanced OCR ad-on for nvda?

Chris
 

You mean nvda updates or windows updates?

 

If you are on nvda 21.2 then you need to download the 21.3 from the nvaccess site to update nvda manually

 

 

 

From: David Ingram
Sent: 11 December 2021 20:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm having problems when i check for updates as well as the new advanced OCR ad-on for nvda?

 

Hi list members, i seem to be having problems after launching nvda that i can’t seem to be able to check for updates on my windows 10 h2 machine.  I don’t remember having these problems befor, is there something that i need to do to fix this problem? Is there also something happening with the windows updates as well to cause any problems like the one that  i tried to describe?

 

 

 

 


I'm having problems when i check for updates as well as the new advanced OCR ad-on for nvda?

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i seem to be having problems after launching nvda that i can’t seem to be able to check for updates on my windows 10 h2 machine. I don’t remember having these problems befor, is there something that i need to do to fix this problem? Is there also something happening with the windows updates as well to cause any problems like the one that i tried to describe?


Re: NVDA 2021.3 Released!

David Ingram
 

Hi Quentin, i’d like to know why i get an error message when trying to check nvea for updates, as well as not beeing able to see the new advanced OCR for nvda.  When i tried to find the ad-on i could find it but i was not sure whether the ad-on had been installed.  I’m also having a problem with something els that i heard that you can install it manually but i’m not sure what that was referring to.  I can be reached at dingram269@....  Thank you.

On Dec 10, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Louise Pfau <louise.pfau@...> wrote:

Hi.  I just updated NVDA manually through the "Check for updates" option in the "Help" menu because I wanted to get it right away and see if I was one of the people who got an error message when checking for updates.  I didn't get the error, but I'm not sure if I'll still get the automatic notification in the future.  I left that setting turned on, since that's the default, and I want it kept that way.

Thanks,

Louise


Instant speak out of printed material using a webcam with NVDA + LION OCR addon

Milton Charlton
 

Thanks to Shaun Everiss for posting the link to the LION addon (#86821).

 I set up an ordinary  1080p webcam (Microsoft Lifecam Studio) about 10 inches (25cm)  above a thick paperback book.  I arranged the book and camera so the book filled the screen as much as possible. The book was open at the middle and there was plenty of page curl near the spine.  Lighting was just ambient light from a desk lamp pointed at the ceiling. The LION OCR addon spoke out the left page and then the right page.  Except for the curl, this is similar to reading columns.   The accuracy was very good with only two or three misses.  This method would be good for a quick speak out of printed material that otherwise would be difficult or impossible to read.

I think any webcam display software such as the built-in Windows CAMERA app, Yawcam or IPEVO Visualizer will work for this job. It is not necessary to save any files with this method.


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

It is still Docuscan.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 08 December 2021 22:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Actually, I have used one thing that did create the correct tables and charts in a scanned pdf that my teacher gave me. The program is no more now but I  successfully used this program to write and site correct page numbers of these scanned pdfs, and some were quite old. I dunno how it did it, but it tagged everything correctly. Ok, it didn’t describe the images that were present in the images but I didn’t need that at the time, just the text which was perfect. All headings were correct, tables, charts, etc. if anyone is interested the app was called docuscan. It has now been replaced by I forget what, but it just came out this year and I get the feeling I might need to use this in my studies over the next few years.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 1:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 03:46 PM, Gene wrote:

But without experience of a large number of PDF documents, I wouldn’t assume that.

 

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Gene, I can say, with complete honesty, that I cannot count the number of PDF documents I've dealt with, and in the context of a screen reader.  The general hierarchy of accessibility has been:

1. Image Scanned - Inaccessible unless OCRed, and if OCRed, much depends on when as far as how well that works.

2. OCR processed by something designed to do so -  If it's a fairly modern OCR engine, things like columnar text are generally handled with very good flow.  If it was an early OCR engine, not so much.  Document will not have, to quote Mr. Moxley, "proper heading structure, table structures (with appropriately marked headers), accessible links, alt text etc."  OCR engines are generally not that sophisticated, though most can detect tables these days and set them up as such.

3. Created as PDF in a PDF Editor or MS-Word:  100% basic accessibility, but not necessarily "prettified" with all of the above noted features.  I've created quite a few tutorials in MS-Word that I've then saved as PDF that are one to maybe three pages long, and step by step, and I certainly never go to that level of elaboration because of what the content is and how it's to be accessed.  People creating things like church bulletins, flyers, and lots of other simple documents that are often of a "read once and then done" nature are unlikey to ever do so, either.

3. Created as PDF in a PDF Editor and of significant length, and intended for publication and/or a long archival life:  100% maximally accessible with all the features Mr. Moxley noted.

The fact of the matter is that I don't disagree with him, one bit, about what needs to be done to create a maximally accessible PDF if one is creating it from scratch and it is of any significant length.  What I do disagree with is that this is necessary for the vast majority of very short PDFs out there that may or may not have been created as such.

When it comes to PDFs, and particularly PDFs of unknown origin, it's completely unrealistic to call them inaccessible if they don't have the prettification.  I have scanned, and with OCR scanning at the time of scan, things like owner's manuals and service manuals that are hundreds of pages long.  They will not ever have all of the prettification because it's just not possible, but their text content is complete, and searchable.  That's accessible, and in most instances way more than just minimally accessible.

It's way faster for me to find what I'm looking for in these scanned PDFs because they are searchable than it is to find it using the source material, as often certain bits of information are put where you really wouldn't expect to find it and there's noting in the table of contents nor index or indices that would indicate that.  But if you know the term you're looking for, you can blaze through hundreds of pages very quickly using search functionality.  That's accessible whether you're doing this the sighted way or using a screen reader to do the same thing.  It may not be as nice as it would be had the source material been created as PDF, but there will never come a time where every PDF started out life that way nor where whatever was used to OCR it could possibly produce something with all the features in characteristic of PDF born as PDF.
 
There's basic accessibility and publisher-layout-quality accessibility.  They're not the same thing.  We should, of course, constantly encourage the use of publisher-layout-quality with regard to accessibility where such is warranted.  My 2-page flyer for next week's picnic, as a fictional example, would not be one of those times.  If it's entirely readable, in the expected order, that's good enough.

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Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

mcLeod stinnett
 

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Re: Weather Add-On

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

the same is happening to me, stay calm, try removing the addon, if that doesn't work, wait, the addon's loudspeaker will fix this in version 8.8 Note: you and I are not the only ones experiencing this issue

Em sex., 10 de dez. de 2021 às 23:37, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> escreveu:

Hi All,
Has anyone noticed that when you get the three-day weather, it gets the days wrong?
Like today is Friday night, and it mentioned today's weather, which was correct, but the next day it says Friday, and the next day it says Saturday.
This has happened every time I've used it, this is just the first time I decided to ask about it.
Thanks.
 
Glenn


Weather Add-On

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi All,
Has anyone noticed that when you get the three-day weather, it gets the days wrong?
Like today is Friday night, and it mentioned today's weather, which was correct, but the next day it says Friday, and the next day it says Saturday.
This has happened every time I've used it, this is just the first time I decided to ask about it.
Thanks.
 
Glenn


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Gene
 

It isn’t on the official add-ons site.  No download links in this thread lead to the site and I just searched for the add-on on the official site.  the adde-on is evidently too early in development to be approved for the official site. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.
 

You get it at the addons page.

 

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From: David Ingram
Sent: December 10, 2021 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Hi, where do i go to get this new ad-on? i most recently downloaded the new version of nvda But I could not find this new ad-on.

-----Original Message-----

From:

Sent: Dec 10, 2021 9:02 AM

To:

Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Hello,

are you using the columns review addon?

we suppose this bug exist because the addon conflict with other.

Anyway, next version will have a new text dialog, so the bug will disappear magically!

 

 

Il 10/12/2021 15:59, David Mehler ha scritto:

> Hello,

> > I believe I'm also having the issue with the arrows on a pdf? I'm

> using NVDA 2021.3, win10 20h1, and the latest release of NAO plugin. I

> hear that it begins to recognizes, recognition complete, then I try to

> down arrow through the document, hit a down arrow once and I'm kicked

> out and put right out to my windows explorer. If it matters I am using

> a USB wireless keyboard.

> > Thanks.

> Dave.

> > > On 12/10/21, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

>> HEllo,

>> download from here:

>> https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao

>>

>> Il 10/12/2021 11:40, David Ingram ha scritto:

>>> Hi, i'd like to know where to get this ad-on?

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From:

>>> Sent: Dec 9, 2021 4:03 PM

>>> To:

>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

>>>

>>> I get the same problems here and it is a Usb keyboard that came with this

>>> all in one computer hope this might help.

>>>

>>> On 08/12/2021 13:32, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

>>>>> Il 08/12/2021 13:57, Brian Moore ha scritto:

>>>>>

>>>>>  The ocr process happens and I hear "result document" and the first >>

>>>>> line of the file but as soon as I press an arrow key to read the rest,

>>>>>>> the result vanishes and I am taken back to the folder from where I >>

>>>>> initiated the ocr.

>>>>>

>>>>> Ok, I will contact the developers for this.

>>>>> Are you using a laptop? Or an usb keyboard?

>>>>> The fact is that it seems that for some reasons the addon doesn't >

>>>>> intercept the arrow keys.

>>>>> Are you using the normal arrow keys or for example some emulations or >

>>>>> numpad keys?

>>>>>> Sorry for all these questions but it is to understand the problem.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>

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> > > > >

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

Arlene
 

You get it at the addons page.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: David Ingram
Sent: December 10, 2021 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Hi, where do i go to get this new ad-on? i most recently downloaded the new version of nvda But I could not find this new ad-on.

-----Original Message-----

From:

Sent: Dec 10, 2021 9:02 AM

To:

Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

 

Hello,

are you using the columns review addon?

we suppose this bug exist because the addon conflict with other.

Anyway, next version will have a new text dialog, so the bug will disappear magically!

 

 

Il 10/12/2021 15:59, David Mehler ha scritto:

> Hello,

> > I believe I'm also having the issue with the arrows on a pdf? I'm

> using NVDA 2021.3, win10 20h1, and the latest release of NAO plugin. I

> hear that it begins to recognizes, recognition complete, then I try to

> down arrow through the document, hit a down arrow once and I'm kicked

> out and put right out to my windows explorer. If it matters I am using

> a USB wireless keyboard.

> > Thanks.

> Dave.

> > > On 12/10/21, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

>> HEllo,

>> download from here:

>> https://github.com/sharkboyto/nao

>> 

>> Il 10/12/2021 11:40, David Ingram ha scritto:

>>> Hi, i'd like to know where to get this ad-on?

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From:

>>> Sent: Dec 9, 2021 4:03 PM

>>> To:

>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] new addon: NVDA Advanced OCR.

>>> 

>>> I get the same problems here and it is a Usb keyboard that came with this

>>> all in one computer hope this might help.

>>> 

>>> On 08/12/2021 13:32, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

>>>>> Il 08/12/2021 13:57, Brian Moore ha scritto:

>>>>> 

>>>>>  The ocr process happens and I hear "result document" and the first >>

>>>>> line of the file but as soon as I press an arrow key to read the rest,

>>>>>>> the result vanishes and I am taken back to the folder from where I >>

>>>>> initiated the ocr.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Ok, I will contact the developers for this.

>>>>> Are you using a laptop? Or an usb keyboard?

>>>>> The fact is that it seems that for some reasons the addon doesn't >

>>>>> intercept the arrow keys.

>>>>> Are you using the normal arrow keys or for example some emulations or >

>>>>> numpad keys?

>>>>>> Sorry for all these questions but it is to understand the problem.

>>>>>>>>>>> 

>>> 

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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Gene
 

Control shift w exactly duplicates alt f4.  I didn’t know about the command until this thread but I experimented with it.  My description of how alt f4 works applies to control shift w. 
 
If you have multiple tabs opened in one window, alt f4 closes the entire program.  If you have multiple windows opened, alt f4 closes the window you are in.  You must close all windows individually
 
I’ll add that if you have multiple tabs opened and you only want to close the tab you are in, control f4 will do so.
 
If you have to use alt f4 multiple times, you are opening new windows.  We can discuss how not to do that and how to open multiple tabs instead.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus
 
brian, i won't insist on changing the command anymore, but i still want to talk about the command control+shift+wimagine that i have many tabs open, it would be boring to close them all. we can press ALT+f4 but all that will close will be one tab, and the others will still be open, so alt+f4 doesn't replace the command control+shift+w.as i said, i'm not insisting, and nen wanting to fight, i'm just giving my opinion.
 
Em sex., 10 de dez. de 2021 às 19:26, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 02:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
So be very very careful when button mashing as I call it.
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Sage advice, period.

I have made more money over the years from the aftermath of frustrated button mashing than I care to think about (or, more accurately, that the clients would prefer to think about).  Also from people doing tweaking (which is not problematic, per se) and not keeping a step-by-step list of exactly what tweaks they've made so that they can be reversed if needed.  And I've been guilty of the latter on a couple of occasions, much to my chagrin.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

ALT + F4 is the close window command, and that's what it does.


In the case of a web browser window, it could have only one browser tab open or 50.  The window closes when the Alt + F4 command is issued.  This command has been a part of all Windows versions since the first, if memory serves.

I've closed Windows with many tabs open, often by fat-fingering, and then have to rely on the browser's restore recently closed window/tabs feature to get it back.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Jackie
 

Eduardo, in Chrome, they say that alt f4 closes all tabs. Control f4
closes a single 1.

On 12/10/21, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
brian, i won't insist on changing the command anymore, but i still want to
talk about the command control+shift+wimagine that i have many tabs open,
it would be boring to close them all. we can press ALT+f4 but all that will
close will be one tab, and the others will still be open, so alt+f4 doesn't
replace the command control+shift+w.as i said, i'm not insisting, and nen
wanting to fight, i'm just giving my opinion.

Em sex., 10 de dez. de 2021 às 19:26, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
escreveu:

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 02:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

So be very very careful when button mashing as I call it.

-
Sage advice, period.

I have made more money over the years from the aftermath of frustrated
button mashing than I care to think about (or, more accurately, that the
clients would prefer to think about). Also from people doing tweaking
(which is not problematic, per se) and not keeping a step-by-step list of
exactly what tweaks they've made so that they can be reversed if needed.
And I've been guilty of the latter on a couple of occasions, much to my
chagrin.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

brian, i won't insist on changing the command anymore, but i still want to talk about the command control+shift+wimagine that i have many tabs open, it would be boring to close them all. we can press ALT+f4 but all that will close will be one tab, and the others will still be open, so alt+f4 doesn't replace the command control+shift+w.as i said, i'm not insisting, and nen wanting to fight, i'm just giving my opinion.

Em sex., 10 de dez. de 2021 às 19:26, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 02:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
So be very very careful when button mashing as I call it.
-
Sage advice, period.

I have made more money over the years from the aftermath of frustrated button mashing than I care to think about (or, more accurately, that the clients would prefer to think about).  Also from people doing tweaking (which is not problematic, per se) and not keeping a step-by-step list of exactly what tweaks they've made so that they can be reversed if needed.  And I've been guilty of the latter on a couple of occasions, much to my chagrin.
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Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 02:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
So be very very careful when button mashing as I call it.
-
Sage advice, period.

I have made more money over the years from the aftermath of frustrated button mashing than I care to think about (or, more accurately, that the clients would prefer to think about).  Also from people doing tweaking (which is not problematic, per se) and not keeping a step-by-step list of exactly what tweaks they've made so that they can be reversed if needed.  And I've been guilty of the latter on a couple of occasions, much to my chagrin.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 


Re: NVDA 2021.3 Released!

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I just updated NVDA manually through the "Check for updates" option in the "Help" menu because I wanted to get it right away and see if I was one of the people who got an error message when checking for updates.  I didn't get the error, but I'm not sure if I'll still get the automatic notification in the future.  I left that setting turned on, since that's the default, and I want it kept that way.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’ve actually heard some of my students refer to kelvin, not Celsius. I’m a weather nerd, but  that one also surprised me. I never corrected them in case their country used kelvin. IN my hobby I use degrees C, which is  a bit confusing, but works for what it does.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 7:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control+shift+w command must be changed in weater plus

 

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:18 AM, Gene wrote:

The author says, “Tip: Although the shortcut is officially listed as Alt+F4, you must hold down the Function (Fn) key for it to work.”

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And I'll admit that I missed that.  So, in essence, adding the FN does nothing.  It's simply ALT + F4 even if you press it, or at least my testing indicates such.

Since it's confirmed that ALT + F4 and ALT + Spacebar, C are both the keyboard shortcuts for the Close function those are what should be used.

I was actually surprised to learn as part of this thread that CTRL + Shift + W was used as pretty much the functional equivalent of ALT + F4 under the Google Chrome browser and other Chromium browsers as well as Firefox.  That's a command I'd never even encountered before, and a 3-key-press command where a 2 key press one exists is something I'd doubt would get much use.

I also imagine that the add-on developers for Weather_Plus didn't choose an NVDA modifier for temperature scale switching as that would almost certainly be a "one and done" sort of affair and they didn't want to use an NVDA modifier as a result.  I was surprised to see degrees Kelvin in that list of options, too.  I've never in my life heard of degrees Kelvin being used for weather reports or anything outside academic research where some real extremes of temperature, be they high or low, are involved.  When it comes to weather the only things I've seen in my travels are Celsius or Fahrenheit. 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

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