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Re: we have a need

 

Joseph,

         I'm not sure what you consider "a problem" in what you quoted.  I can say, however, that when you mouse over controls in the ribbon in MS-Word 2010 you do not get the keyboard shortcut portion announced, at least not in most cases.  For instance, when I have the mouse pointer over the Bold button in the Font group of the Home Ribbon it announces, "Bold, Make the text bold."  It does not include the "(Ctrl+B)" that does show in the mouse-over text.  The same is true for the other "straight buttons" that I've hovered over that have keyboard shortcuts.  What is announced is the button name/purpose followed by the descriptive help text, but not the keyboard shortcut.  An exception to this is the underline button, which is a split button, and it says "Underline, Underline, Control + U."  The actual descriptive text is "Underline the selected text."

          This is different than what is announced when you are actually traversing the ribbons using NVDA.  When you're going about it that way you get the full announcement of the button, purpose, and the entire shortcut sequence, including bringing up the appropriate ribbon, to activate said button/function.

Brian
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Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi to every one,

I downloaded the version 1.7 of additional component.
When restarting nvda insert+Control+f3, or go out with nvda+q, is generated this error.
Unfortunately the log not give me back in return the number of line.

[cut...]
NVDA initialized
INFO - core.main (19:33:10):
Exiting
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
Exception
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
AttributeError
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
:
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
"'NoneType' object has no attribute 'Destroy'"
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
in
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
<bound method GlobalPlugin.__del__ of <globalPlugins.systrayList.GlobalPlugin object at 0x03B9B770>>
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
ignored
INFO - __main__ (19:33:11):
NVDA exit

Adriano


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with Firefox. I need its developers help.

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi Brian,
Forgive my ignorance, what are you referring to "next snaps". Thanks.
Blessings
Pascal

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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with Firefox. I need its developers help.

I deleted Java in the end, it does not seem to be required by much these days.
I'm using the next snaps now which seem to be working with less lag with Firefox for some reason.

As for things not reading at all. I think we would need to see a log of the offending part of the session to have any idea of what is going on. I have a sneaky suspicion that recent versions of Firefox, particularly 49 and50, have an issue of hanging generally. The latest version of 49 does seem better though but its very subtle and hard to be sure as its so fleeting.
I have had no isues with flash its been updating itself quite happily of late. IE on the other hand seems to be having issues getting the latest flash, you need to go in and download it and force it down its throat.. in a manner of speaking!

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with Firefox. I need its developers help.


Hi,
I too experience some issues with Firefox and the latest version of NVDA:
slow reading, freezing pages, some links not showing up while they do in IE, filling forms get interrupted and so on. I uninstalled Flashplayer to avoid the interruption asking to allow it; is there any other interfering add on that I should be aware of and uninstall? Recently, I received a message from Firefox stating urgent update of something to do with Java which unfortunately I allowed. Now each time I start my laptop, I get a long announcement related to Java which I close. Don’t know how to copy it to send it to the list and I am not finding where it is to remove it.
Please help.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal
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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.
Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual parameters to cause this effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the developers.
Do the affected folk have any extensions or add ons on their Firefox?
I use navigational sounds. the nuw add blocker, not the one that allows ads, There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.
My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking add on like the avg one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those seem to act up a lot.
Brian

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From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hi.
because you install this version with previous profiles.
you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.
for this reason, you dont have any problem!
i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@gmail.com> wrote:



hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result
is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about
this version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com and even i cant
navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with Firefox. I need its developers help.

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I deleted Java in the end, it does not seem to be required by much these days.
I'm using the next snaps now which seem to be working with less lag with Firefox for some reason.

As for things not reading at all. I think we would need to see a log of the offending part of the session to have any idea of what is going on. I have a sneaky suspicion that recent versions of Firefox, particularly 49 and50, have an issue of hanging generally. The latest version of 49 does seem better though but its very subtle and hard to be sure as its so fleeting.
I have had no isues with flash its been updating itself quite happily of late. IE on the other hand seems to be having issues getting the latest flash, you need to go in and download it and force it down its throat.. in a manner of speaking!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with Firefox. I need its developers help.


Hi,
I too experience some issues with Firefox and the latest version of NVDA: slow reading, freezing pages, some links not showing up while they do in IE, filling forms get interrupted and so on. I uninstalled Flashplayer to avoid the interruption asking to allow it; is there any other interfering add on that I should be aware of and uninstall? Recently, I received a message from Firefox stating urgent update of something to do with Java which unfortunately I allowed. Now each time I start my laptop, I get a long announcement related to Java which I close. Don’t know how to copy it to send it to the list and I am not finding where it is to remove it.
Please help.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.
Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual parameters to cause this effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the developers.
Do the affected folk have any extensions or add ons on their Firefox?
I use navigational sounds. the nuw add blocker, not the one that allows ads, There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.
My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking add on like the avg one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those seem to act up a lot.
Brian

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From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hi.
because you install this version with previous profiles.
you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.
for this reason, you dont have any problem!
i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@gmail.com> wrote:



hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result
is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about
this version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com and even i cant
navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: we have a need

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I'm not sure this used to work at all without altering the way you click and select items in windows. Sadly these days I cannot see enough to try it out for you.
Brian

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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] we have a need


Hi,
Can someone reproduce the problem below? Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

---- Original Message ------
From: <olcay.ashchi@gmail.com
Subject: we have a need
Date sent: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 13:03:40 +0300

Hello

We have been performing group tasks among blind and sighted users. We need to hear the shortcut combinations when we bring the mouse over a control especially on excell and office software. Can you create an add-on for this purpose?
Thanks a lot.

windows 10 posta




we have a need

Olcay AŞCI
 

Hello

 

We have been performing group tasks among blind and sighted users. We need to hear the shortcut combinations when we bring the mouse over a control especially on excell and office software. Can you create an add-on for this purpose?

Thanks a lot.

 

windows 10 posta

 

 


we have a need

 

Hi,
Can someone reproduce the problem below? Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

---- Original Message ------
From: <olcay.ashchi@gmail.com
Subject: we have a need
Date sent: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 13:03:40 +0300

Hello

We have been performing group tasks among blind and sighted users. We need to hear the shortcut combinations when we bring the mouse over a control especially on excell and office software. Can you create an add-on for this purpose?
Thanks a lot.

windows 10 posta


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with Firefox. I need its developers help.

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi,
I too experience some issues with Firefox and the latest version of NVDA: slow reading, freezing pages, some links not showing up while they do in IE, filling forms get interrupted and so on. I uninstalled Flashplayer to avoid the interruption asking to allow it; is there any other interfering add on that I should be aware of and uninstall? Recently, I received a message from Firefox stating urgent update of something to do with Java which unfortunately I allowed. Now each time I start my laptop, I get a long announcement related to Java which I close. Don’t know how to copy it to send it to the list and I am not finding where it is to remove it.
Please help.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.
Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual parameters to cause this effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the developers.
Do the affected folk have any extensions or add ons on their Firefox?
I use navigational sounds. the nuw add blocker, not the one that allows ads, There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.
My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking add on like the avg one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those seem to act up a lot.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hi.
because you install this version with previous profiles.
you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.
for this reason, you dont have any problem!
i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@gmail.com> wrote:



hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result
is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about
this version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com and even i cant
navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

hi enes.
thanks so much for your help.
also did you test with nvda 2016.2?
i did not have this version because of reading punctuation in farsi to test.

i am using 2016.1 with no problem and wish to know about 2016.2 or 2016.2.1 too.

On 10/1/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no problems here with nvda and Firefox. I'm using Win 10 1607 and
latest Firefox and latest nvda. I also have Webvisum, Noscript, and a
few other Firefox plug ins and have never had a problem with it.

Roger










On 10/1/2016 4:28 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Well it worked ok on ff41 when I tried it yesterday so this looks like
something very rare and could be due to some other software, such as a
firefox toolbar or add in perhaps?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mário Navarro" <mario.gnv@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.





hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result
is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.









--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Roger Stewart
 

I have no problems here with nvda and Firefox. I'm using Win 10 1607 and latest Firefox and latest nvda. I also have Webvisum, Noscript, and a few other Firefox plug ins and have never had a problem with it.

Roger

On 10/1/2016 4:28 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Well it worked ok on ff41 when I tried it yesterday so this looks like something very rare and could be due to some other software, such as a firefox toolbar or add in perhaps?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mário Navarro" <mario.gnv@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.





hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.






Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

problem exists on next snapshots.

On 10/1/2016 4:26 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
please test this problem with different versions of firefox with nvda.
i revert to 2016.1 with no problem!
but i wish the progress and succeed of nvda not its regression.
please solve this critical issue!
nvda was the most compatible screen reader with firefox and now, its
not possible to work with it with the fresh install of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Chris <chrismedley@btinternet.com> wrote:
First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that
doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda






From: nasrin khaksar


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

i dont think that it relates to version of firefox and different
versions of windows.
but please test it and give us the result.

On 10/1/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
please test this problem with different versions of firefox with nvda.
i revert to 2016.1 with no problem!
but i wish the progress and succeed of nvda not its regression.
please solve this critical issue!
nvda was the most compatible screen reader with firefox and now, its
not possible to work with it with the fresh install of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Chris <chrismedley@btinternet.com> wrote:

First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that
doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda






From: nasrin khaksar

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

please test this problem with different versions of firefox with nvda.
i revert to 2016.1 with no problem!
but i wish the progress and succeed of nvda not its regression.
please solve this critical issue!
nvda was the most compatible screen reader with firefox and now, its
not possible to work with it with the fresh install of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Chris <chrismedley@btinternet.com> wrote:

First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that
doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda






From: nasrin khaksar
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Chris
 

 

First off uninstall webvissum as that modifies web page layout so if that doesn’t work either upgrade firefox or down grade nvda

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: 01 October 2016 12:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

hi brian.

thanks so much for your guide.

but i dont have any addon in my firefox except webvisum!

i installed nvda 2016.1 with no issue with fresh install.

i tried two times 16.3 and the result is only not supporting of firefox!

i did not have install with fale.

if this issue is related to uninstalling one software without success,

i should face this problem in all versions of nvda.

but only it occured for me with 2016.3!

and also even i dont have any addons install with nvda and also even i

did not install adobe flash player!

 

nvda works well with internet explorer version 8 which is the last

version that supports xp.

and i am not sure about the latest versions of explorer!

 

the only problem is with firefox, always, for all websites and even

with the web pages which i stored for reading offline!

 

i did not use 2016.2 because of reading of punctuations with farsi language.

so please test this problem with this version too.

 

i only tested 15.4 and 16.1 without any problem!

 

On 10/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

> On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.

>   Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual  parameters to cause this

> effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the

> developers.

>  Do the affected folk have any  extensions or add ons on their Firefox?

>  I use navigational sounds. the  nuw add blocker, not the one that allows

> ads,

> There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of

> embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.

>  My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking  add on like

> the avg  one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those

> seem to act up a lot.

>  Brian

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> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with

> firefox. i need its developers help.

> hi.

> because you install this version with previous profiles.

> you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.

> for this reason, you dont have any problem!

> i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

> On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> hi.

>> why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?

>> I'm using and I do not have these issues.

>> 

>> cheers.

>> Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:

>>> hello every one.

>>> i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.

>>> i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and

>>> installed nvda 2016.3.

>>> i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.

>>> when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible

>>> with firefox with the fresh install!

>>> the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not

>>> work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!

>>> i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is

>>> the

>>> same!

>>> i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.

>>> whats the reason for this regression?

>>> i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this

>>> version, because i tested this two times!

>>> and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

>>> 

>>> g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com

>>> and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.

>>> i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address

>>> correctly.

>>> 

>>> as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4

>>> to 2016.3 everythings is great.

>>> and this problem happens only for fresh install.

>>> that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,

>>> download version 2016.3 and installs it!

>>> i can only press tab and navigate by links.

>>> but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the

>>> web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

> al-islam.org

>

 

 

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best website for studying islamic book in different languages

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Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

hi brian.
thanks so much for your guide.
but i dont have any addon in my firefox except webvisum!
i installed nvda 2016.1 with no issue with fresh install.
i tried two times 16.3 and the result is only not supporting of firefox!
i did not have install with fale.
if this issue is related to uninstalling one software without success,
i should face this problem in all versions of nvda.
but only it occured for me with 2016.3!
and also even i dont have any addons install with nvda and also even i
did not install adobe flash player!

nvda works well with internet explorer version 8 which is the last
version that supports xp.
and i am not sure about the latest versions of explorer!

the only problem is with firefox, always, for all websites and even
with the web pages which i stored for reading offline!

i did not use 2016.2 because of reading of punctuations with farsi language.
so please test this problem with this version too.

i only tested 15.4 and 16.1 without any problem!

On 10/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.
Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual parameters to cause this

effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the
developers.
Do the affected folk have any extensions or add ons on their Firefox?
I use navigational sounds. the nuw add blocker, not the one that allows
ads,
There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of
embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.
My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking add on like
the avg one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those

seem to act up a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.


hi.
because you install this version with previous profiles.
you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.
for this reason, you dont have any problem!
i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@gmail.com> wrote:



hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is
the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

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On the windows 10 machine it was a fresh install and there was no issue.
Very strange. Unless we can identify the actual parameters to cause this effect its hard to be able to diagnose it for us and indeed for the developers.
Do the affected folk have any extensions or add ons on their Firefox?
I use navigational sounds. the nuw add blocker, not the one that allows ads,
There are also the normal add ons thatprocess flash and other forms of embedded content, but seriously think it will not be any of those.
My main guess is if you have some kind of web site checking add on like the avg one or one of those ones that looks for bargains etc. Some of those seem to act up a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hi.
because you install this version with previous profiles.
you did not install it with the fresh profile as i mentioned.
for this reason, you dont have any problem!
i returned to the previous versions of nvda!

On 10/1/16, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@gmail.com> wrote:



hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address
correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

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Well it worked ok on ff41 when I tried it yesterday so this looks like something very rare and could be due to some other software, such as a firefox toolbar or add in perhaps?
Brian

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From: "Mário Navarro" <mario.gnv@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.





hi.
why you do not try upgrade to the latest version?
I'm using and I do not have these issues.

cheers.
Às 05:22 de 01/10/2016, nasrin khaksar escreveu:
hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.



Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

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We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: auto focus problem

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I thought this now worked in t the anniversary update?
I'm sure I've deleted files and seen the are you sure, though I seem to recall turning it on somewhere.
Brian

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From: "Olcay AŞCI" <olcay.ashchi@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] auto focus problem


Hi

Windows 8 and later systems, the folder and the name of the deleted item unable to read file deletion in the confirmation window. how this problem should be solved? it is possible to find the presentation of the object, but the name of this file must be read automatically.

windows 10 posta


Re: microsoft edge:

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That would depend on whether Microsoft cock it up again in any updates I'd imagine. It seems to work mostly now, but edit areas do not work properly or speak since the anniversary update.
I just don't like the browser myself, it seems like its fallen between the other browsers in that it has none of the good ideaas of those, or if it has then they are hidden away.
Brian

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From: "Kenny Peyattt jr. " <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] microsoft edge:


Hi will the next release of nvda fully support microsoft edge?

Kenny Peyatt jr.