Date   

Re: web visum digally signed extension

 

Travis,

           It's good to see that the original developers have updated the add-on with digital signature, but it's also weird that it does not turn up in an add-ons search from within Firefox itself.  I went to the link you supplied, and there's no doubt that it is official and legitimate, but it's really strange that you can't find this via an add-ons search.  Perhaps that's because the add-on is marked "experimental."  I'd say after all this time they could remove that classification, but there's been so little "action" on this add-on or the WebVisum website where one has to register for an account to use the add-on this is not surprising.


--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: web visum digally signed extension

Kwork
 

Yes. Webvisum 0.9.5 is now available on the Firefox add-ons site from the
official developers:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webvisum/
There is also the version that came out a bit earlier that James Scholes,
one of us blind users, was able to digitally sign. The article from Blind
Bargains about that, with instructions is here:
http://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=15142
You now have a couple of options to make Webvisum work on recent Firefox
versions.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] web visum digally signed extension


Hello,

I am looking for the digitally signed firefox extension. Does anyone
know where I can find it for the latest firefox?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Arlene
 

What I meant to say was this. Reformat if it's your last resort. Try to remember what you installed witch caused your problem. If it's whatever it is you last installed. Then uninstall the last thing you installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account
Sent: October-02-16 1:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

In my view, that would not be very helpful, as well as taking a long time to reinstall everything and use back ups of vital files, you are going to reinstall the very thing that has caused it quite probably. A bit more research needed I think, and only Format or reinstall the operating system as a last resort.
I'm still not clear what is actually going on, and it be very interesting to see if other screenreaders have problems as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


Hi, what version of windows are you running? Have you decided to format your computer?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenine
Stanley
Sent: October-01-16 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.



Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this. I’ve
had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t
created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer
involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger
than NVDA, in other words.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:



It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA.



As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more
dll files? I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone
else should know them or may well already have notes. How long have you had
the problem. Do you have a system restore point from before the problem
started? Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a
reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalker64@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.



I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my
machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far
fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it
completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines,
one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE.
If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or
twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox.



Sorry for the bad news.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with
no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is
this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its
software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently,
or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not
being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows
api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but maybe you can restore you
computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either
now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to
know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <
<mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: < <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i
need its developers help.





hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co <http://gmail.co/> gmail.com
<http://gmail.com/>
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org/>


Re: Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report

 

Hi,
There is a much better long-term solution, something that was suggested to add-on authors but was never implemented so far (note that I'm not the add-on author): instead of using "del" statement, the best method would be to use "terminate" function unless there is a major reason as to why using a destructor should be employed. Unfortunately, this affects not just this add-on, but also others, as NV Access is now using a slightly modified version of wxPython to catch bugs and so on.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adriano Barbieri via Groups.io" <adrianobarb=yahoo.it@groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date sent: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:38:19 +0200
Subject: Re: [nvda] Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report

Hi,

Here is where is the bug in this function:
def __del__(self):
# Destroy the window on plugin deletion just to make sure it goes away
# (to prevent strange things when reloading plugin)
if not self._systrayListDialog:
self._systrayListDialog.Destroy()

It addresses by creating a exception handling, But we need to understand the
reason for the problem:
def __del__(self):
# Destroy the window on plugin deletion just to make sure it goes away
# (to prevent strange things when reloading plugin)
if not self._systrayListDialog:
try:
self._systrayListDialog.Destroy()
except: pass

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account" <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report


Yes seen the same error, but it does say ignored, however its not ignored
insofar as when running in a snapshot, you still hear it.
I've seen the same sort of error on focus highlight and occasionally on
easy table navigator. I don't think they are destructive, and you would
probably not know in a full version unless you looked at the logs.
Brian

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Re: web visum digally signed extension

 

A programmer named James Scholes made a version of the Webvisum Firefox add-on that is digitally signed so that newer versions of Firefox can install it.

 

See the article entitled, Webvisum CAPTCHA Solver Returns to Firefox, on blindbargains.com for full details.

 

The direct download link for his XPI install file is:  http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi

 

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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



web visum digally signed extension

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I am looking for the digitally signed firefox extension. Does anyone
know where I can find it for the latest firefox?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Jenine Stanley
 

Brian,

Oddly enough, yes, I’m also running Window-Eyes 9.5 I think, on this machine and it’s having the exact same issues with browsers.

Trouble is it’s also a work machine and for some of the cleanup functions, I don’t have admin privileges. Yes, our IT people are aware of the issues.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com

On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:42 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

In my view, that would not be very helpful, as well as taking a long time to reinstall everything and use back ups of vital files, you are going to reinstall the very thing that has caused it quite probably. A bit more research needed I think, and only Format or reinstall the operating system as a last resort.
I'm still not clear what is actually going on, and it be very interesting to see if other screenreaders have problems as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


Hi, what version of windows are you running? Have you decided to format your computer?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: October-01-16 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.



Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this. I’ve had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger than NVDA, in other words.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:



It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA.



As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more dll files? I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone else should know them or may well already have notes. How long have you had the problem. Do you have a system restore point from before the problem started? Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalker64@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.



I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox.



Sorry for the bad news.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" < <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: < <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.





hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co <http://gmail.co/> gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org/>
















Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Alexander Masic
 

I'M run win 10 64 byte, latest nvda and latest Firefox and i'm not facing that problem you describe.


Den 2016-10-02 kl. 13:45, skrev nasrin khaksar:

i am sure that something is change in the newer version of nvda.
because i did not have this problem before.
and also i dont observe this problem in the previous versions of nvda now!

On 10/2/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
In my view, that would not be very helpful, as well as taking a long time to

reinstall everything and use back ups of vital files, you are going to
reinstall the very thing that has caused it quite probably. A bit more
research needed I think, and only Format or reinstall the operating system
as a last resort.
I'm still not clear what is actually going on, and it be very interesting
to see if other screenreaders have problems as well.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.


Hi, what version of windows are you running? Have you decided to format your

computer?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenine
Stanley
Sent: October-01-16 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.



Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this.
I’ve
had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t
created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer

involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger
than NVDA, in other words.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:



It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA.



As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more

dll files? I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone

else should know them or may well already have notes. How long have you had

the problem. Do you have a system restore point from before the problem
started? Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a
reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalker64@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.



I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my
machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far
fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it
completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines,

one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE.
If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or
twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox.



Sorry for the bad news.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with

no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is
this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its
software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently,

or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not

being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows
api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but maybe you can restore you

computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either

now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to
know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
<mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <
<mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: < <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i

need its developers help.





hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co <http://gmail.co/> gmail.com
<http://gmail.com/>
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org/>

















Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

i am sure that something is change in the newer version of nvda.
because i did not have this problem before.
and also i dont observe this problem in the previous versions of nvda now!

On 10/2/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
In my view, that would not be very helpful, as well as taking a long time to

reinstall everything and use back ups of vital files, you are going to
reinstall the very thing that has caused it quite probably. A bit more
research needed I think, and only Format or reinstall the operating system
as a last resort.
I'm still not clear what is actually going on, and it be very interesting
to see if other screenreaders have problems as well.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.


Hi, what version of windows are you running? Have you decided to format your

computer?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenine
Stanley
Sent: October-01-16 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.



Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this.
I’ve
had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t
created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer

involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger
than NVDA, in other words.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:



It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA.



As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more

dll files? I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone

else should know them or may well already have notes. How long have you had

the problem. Do you have a system restore point from before the problem
started? Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a
reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalker64@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with
firefox. i need its developers help.



I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my
machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far
fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it
completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines,

one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE.
If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or
twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox.



Sorry for the bad news.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with

no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is
this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its
software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently,

or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not

being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows
api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but maybe you can restore you

computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either

now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to
know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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<mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: < <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i

need its developers help.





hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the
same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co <http://gmail.co/> gmail.com
<http://gmail.com/>
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org/>
















--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,

Here is where is the bug in this function:
def __del__(self):
# Destroy the window on plugin deletion just to make sure it goes away
# (to prevent strange things when reloading plugin)
if not self._systrayListDialog:
self._systrayListDialog.Destroy()

It addresses by creating a exception handling, But we need to understand the reason for the problem:
def __del__(self):
# Destroy the window on plugin deletion just to make sure it goes away
# (to prevent strange things when reloading plugin)
if not self._systrayListDialog:
try:
self._systrayListDialog.Destroy()
except: pass

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account" <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report


Yes seen the same error, but it does say ignored, however its not ignored insofar as when running in a snapshot, you still hear it.
I've seen the same sort of error on focus highlight and occasionally on easy table navigator. I don't think they are destructive, and you would probably not know in a full version unless you looked at the logs.
Brian

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Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

In my view, that would not be very helpful, as well as taking a long time to reinstall everything and use back ups of vital files, you are going to reinstall the very thing that has caused it quite probably. A bit more research needed I think, and only Format or reinstall the operating system as a last resort.
I'm still not clear what is actually going on, and it be very interesting to see if other screenreaders have problems as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


Hi, what version of windows are you running? Have you decided to format your computer?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: October-01-16 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.



Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this. I’ve had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger than NVDA, in other words.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:



It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA.



As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more dll files? I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone else should know them or may well already have notes. How long have you had the problem. Do you have a system restore point from before the problem started? Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalker64@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.



I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox.



Sorry for the bad news.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalker64@gmail.com







On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:



We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" < <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: < <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.





hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co <http://gmail.co/> gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org/>


Re: Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes seen the same error, but it does say ignored, however its not ignored insofar as when running in a snapshot, you still hear it.
I've seen the same sort of error on focus highlight and occasionally on easy table navigator. I don't think they are destructive, and you would probably not know in a full version unless you looked at the logs.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adriano Barbieri via Groups.io" <adrianobarb=yahoo.it@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 6:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Systraylist v 1.7 bbug report


Hi to every one,

I downloaded the version 1.7 of additional component.
When restarting nvda insert+Control+f3, or go out with nvda+q, is generated this error.
Unfortunately the log not give me back in return the number of line.

[cut...]
NVDA initialized
INFO - core.main (19:33:10):
Exiting
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
Exception
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
AttributeError
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
:
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
"'NoneType' object has no attribute 'Destroy'"
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
in
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
<bound method GlobalPlugin.__del__ of <globalPlugins.systrayList.GlobalPlugin object at 0x03B9B770>>
ERROR - stderr (19:33:10):
ignored
INFO - __main__ (19:33:11):
NVDA exit

Adriano


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Gene
 

If no one presents the information in a reasonable time, I may well be able to find it with a google search.  If you constantly hear unknown when using browsers and are unable to look at web pages, then your issue is likely the dll problem.  If you have other symptoms instead, it probably isn't. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this. I’ve had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger than NVDA, in other words. 
Jenine Stanley



On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA. 
 
As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more dll files?  I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone else should know them or may well already have notes.  How long have you had the problem.  Do you have a system restore point from before the problem started?  Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox. 

Sorry for the bad news. 
Jenine Stanley



On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but  maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


-- 
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Arlene
 

Hi, what version of windows are you running? Have you decided to format your computer?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: October-01-16 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this. I’ve had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger than NVDA, in other words. 

Jenine Stanley

 

 

 

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA. 

 

As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more dll files?  I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone else should know them or may well already have notes.  How long have you had the problem.  Do you have a system restore point from before the problem started?  Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

 

I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox. 

 

Sorry for the bad news. 

Jenine Stanley

 

 

 

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

 

We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but  maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <
nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <
nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.



hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


-- 
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




 

 


Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Jenine Stanley
 

Tell me more about the dll file issue. I don’t recall hearing about this. I’ve had the issue with every version of NVDA since 2016.1. I sadly hadn’t created a restore point at all but I do have other issues with this computer involving Windows Updates that will necessitate the reinstall. It’s bigger than NVDA, in other words. 
Jenine Stanley



On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA. 
 
As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more dll files?  I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone else should know them or may well already have notes.  How long have you had the problem.  Do you have a system restore point from before the problem started?  Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox. 

Sorry for the bad news. 
Jenine Stanley



On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but  maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


-- 
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Gene
 

It isn't the same problem because it only affects one snapshot of NVDA. 
 
As regards your problem, did you try the solution of registering one or more dll files?  I don't recall the details of this possible solution but someone else should know them or may well already have notes.  How long have you had the problem.  Do you have a system restore point from before the problem started?  Depending on what your problem is, nothing drastic such as a reinstallation of Windows may be necessary.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox. 

Sorry for the bad news. 
Jenine Stanley



On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but  maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


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Re: a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.

Jenine Stanley
 

I have had this going on for quite some time now and it is something on my machine, probably something that didn’t get uninstalled. Nothing thus far fixes it and a reinstall of Windows is going to be necessary to fix it completely. It’s not NVDA though. I have NVDA working on two other machines, one running 7 and the other running 10. The big test is to try it with IE. If it’s what we all think, it will behave similarly. It may work once or twice but then behave exactly as it does in Firefox. 

Sorry for the bad news. 
Jenine Stanley



On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

We have been here before. Its not nvda I'm pretty sure as I've used it with no issues with Firefox on most versions of Windows. The thing to try is this, does Internet Explorer work?
If as I suspect it does not then the issue has to be your computer, its software or a corruption of the registry.
Did you have an office product on your machine and have removed it recently, or has any programs uninstaller apparently failed?
I don't know the fix myself but I'm pretty sure that virtual buffers are not being created by nvda and thus this points to something broken in windows api somewhere that nvda listens to.
I'm sure others may well know the full story, but  maybe you can restore you computer to an earlier time?
I would say that your should find older versions of nvda do not work either now, if they do then the problem is obviously more complex, and we need to know what is different on your machine to most other peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] a very critical problem in using nvda 2016.3 with firefox. i need its developers help.


hello every one.
i tested nvda 2016.3 and i faced a very important regression.
i completely removed nvda previous versions, deleted its profile and
installed nvda 2016.3.
i set my prefered settings and started to work with it.
when i wanted to use firefox, i observed that nvda is not accessible
with firefox with the fresh install!
the arrow keys does not work, singl letter for navigation does not
work and also even nvda does not read the content of a webpage!
i tested this problem in all websites which i visit, and the result is the same!
i tested with firefox 22, 39 and 41.
whats the reason for this regression?
i am not shure about nvda 2016.2 and 16.2.1, but i am shure about this
version, because i tested this two times!
and when i want to open my gmail and type the address, nvda says:

g gm gma gmai gmail gmail. gmail.c gmail.co gmail.com
and even i cant navigate with the address which i typed.
i can only let nvda spells it to make shure i enter the address correctly.

as i mentioned, for example: if i upgreat my nvda from version 2015.4
to 2016.3 everythings is great.
and this problem happens only for fresh install.
that mean one person wants to install nvda for the first time,
download version 2016.3 and installs it!
i can only press tab and navigate by links.
but when i press enter on it to read, i cant read the content of the
web!i realy need your help. thanks so much and God bless you all.


-- 
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org





Re: we have a need

 

Roger,

             I get no difference in what NVDA announces on mousing over the various control buttons in the ribbon of MS-Word whether or not the option you mention is activated or not.
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Re: we have a need

 

Hi Brian and others,
I can confirm Brian's observations: looks like there is indeed a difference in how NVDA announces things when you move via keyboard versus mouse tracking (something that may have been brought up on our issue tramker).
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date sent: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 11:41:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [nvda] we have a need

Joseph,

혻 혻 혻 혻 혻I'm not sure what you consider "a problem" in what you quoted. 혻I can say, however, that when you mouse over controls in the ribbon in MS-Word 2010 you do not get the keyboard shortcut portion announced, at least not in most cases. 혻For instance, when I have the mouse pointer over the Bold button in the Font group of the Home Ribbon it announces, "Bold, Make the text bold." 혻It does not include the "(Ctrl+B)" that does show in the mouse-over text. 혻The same is true for the other "straight buttons" that I've hovered over that have keyboard shortcuts. 혻What is announced is the button name/purpose followed by the descriptive help text, but not the keyboard shortcut. 혻An exception to this is the underline button, which is a split button, and it says "Underline, Underline, Control + U." 혻The actual descriptive text is "Underline the selected text."

혻 혻 혻 혻 혻 This is different than what is announced when you are actually traversing the ribbons using NVDA. 혻When you're going about it that way you get the full announcement of the button, purpose, and the entire shortcut sequence, including bringing up the appropriate ribbon, to activate said button/function.

Brian
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Re: we have a need

Roger Stewart
 

This is already built into NVDA. Just go into Object Presentation settings and the first item you find is report tooltips and it is unchecked by default.  Just check it, ok, and then save settings and nvda will now report tool tips when they appear.

Roger










On 10/1/2016 1:44 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Hello, I believe this is done using tooltips.  Zoomtext read these tooltips aloud as the user moved the mouse  as I recall.  I'm surprised that reading tooltips isn't already a feature of NVDA in some manner.  If not, then I believe it should be added directly into the product, rather than using an add-on, because reading tooltips is that crytical.

If it is already a feature, then check the manual for leads on how to enable tooltips, or some one will probably suggest options.

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On October 1, 2016 1:09:33 PM Olcay AŞCI <olcay.ashchi@...> wrote:

Hello

 

We have been performing group tasks among blind and sighted users. We need to hear the shortcut combinations when we bring the mouse over a control especially on excell and office software. Can you create an add-on for this purpose?

Thanks a lot.

 

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