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Re: A Two Part Question

Chris Smart
 

Google just informed me that you press Windows+PrintScreen.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of H l
Sent: December 27, 2021 6:00 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A Two Part Question

 

Hey everyone,

 

This is a two-part question, the second of which is nothing really to do with NVDA.

 

I need to take a screenshot ofmy online bank statement showin the balance. How do I do this using NVDA? I can never remember if it’s just the screen print key or another key in combination with that.

The other part of my question is – how do I make my screenshots save directly to the screenshots in the fictures directory on the computer? I don’t want my stuff saved not the one drive at all if I can help it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

Harmony.


Re: A Two Part Question

 
Edited

Neither of these is an NVDA question.  Screen shots are taken by Windows (or MacOS or Android or whatever OS), not the screen reader

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=taking+a+screenshot+windows 

Taking a Screenshot Under Windows
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The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill

 


Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Héctor Javier Benítez Corredera
 

Hello, the first address is the official one which only contains official plugins that have passed the filter.

The second one is a project driven by the Spanish NVDA community:

https://nvda.es/

Well this page:

https://www.nvda-addons.org/

It pretends to have the official plugins together with unofficial plugins but that have had a review by people from the Spanish community to check their reliability.

At present between official and unofficial add-ons and discontinued add-ons there are 255.

The discontinued ones remain to be studied at some point by someone who may be interested.

This database intends to try to have the majority of complements located in a single place.


Also in this directory the authors of add-ons can manage the incorporation to the catalog along with their updates.

This database is usually updated daily with the updates that if one had to be looking for the different sites that are distributed could lose a lot of time.

In addition, I developed a Store which allows us to have in an add-on all the add-ons files being able to download them, visit the add-on page and more things like searching, filtering by API, author, downloads, etc.

The Store add-on will also allow us to check for updates every so often, update our official and unofficial add-ons and more options.

If you try it is recommended to read the help, it is in English too and clarify that this Store is not the official NVDA is the one that uses the database of the above mentioned page.

I leave the link in case someone wants to try the Store add-on:

https://nvda.es/files/get.php?file=tienda


And here its repository in Github:

https://github.com/hxebolax/Tienda-para-NVDA


Greetings

P.s: Sorry my mother tongue is not English so this text has been translated with DeepL.


Re: Automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters not doing automatic speech

Felix G.
 

Hello Mohamed,
I am running version 1.5, and report dynamic content changes is active.
Also, in standard console windows, automatic reading works as
expected. Only in Magnetic do I encounter the problem.
I am going to try with Frotz to see if only Magnetic is affected.
Best,
Felix Grützmacher
Am Mo., 27. Dez. 2021 um 14:46 Uhr schrieb Mohamed <malhajamy@...>:


Have you checked if report dynamic content changes is enabled? Also, have you updated to the latest version of the addon? IFInterpreters 1.4 had to make changes to support newer versions of several interpreters recently.
On 12/27/2021 4:56 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Felix, I have a lot of other add-ons installed, including console toolkit, global commands extension, etc. - those two might affect this side of it, but, have no experience with that interpreter, so, sorry can't help more.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-27 11:52 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hi,
with the add-on active, NVDA detects the text window in Magnetic as a
terminal, but unlike the standard Windows terminal, NVDA does not
automatically announce new text. What else would there be to tweak?
Thanks,
Felix

Am Mo., 27. Dez. 2021 um 10:48 Uhr schrieb Jacob Kruger <jacob@...>:

It works fine for me using windows frotz 1.19?


That interpreter might also require a bit of interface tweaking - can't remember since been a while, but, it does work?


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-25 10:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hello everyone,
maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I'm using the
automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters add-on,
and for some reason it does not speak automatically in the Magnetic
Scrolls interpreter. I've turned off pictures as the instructions
suggest. I can read the text just fine using the review cursor, only
the automatic speech functionality does not work.
Any help is appreciated.
All the best,
Felix








Re: Automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters not doing automatic speech

Mohamed
 

Have you checked if report dynamic content changes is enabled? Also, have you updated to the latest version of the addon? IFInterpreters 1.4 had to make changes to support newer versions of several interpreters recently.

On 12/27/2021 4:56 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Felix, I have a lot of other add-ons installed, including console toolkit, global commands extension, etc. - those two might affect this side of it, but, have no experience with that interpreter, so, sorry can't help more.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-27 11:52 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
with the add-on active, NVDA detects the text window in Magnetic as a
terminal, but unlike the standard Windows terminal, NVDA does not
automatically announce new text. What else would there be to tweak?
Thanks,
Felix

Am Mo., 27. Dez. 2021 um 10:48 Uhr schrieb Jacob Kruger <jacob@...>:
It works fine for me using windows frotz 1.19?


That interpreter might also require a bit of interface tweaking - can't remember since been a while, but, it does work?


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-25 10:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hello everyone,
maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I'm using the
automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters add-on,
and for some reason it does not speak automatically in the Magnetic
Scrolls interpreter. I've turned off pictures as the instructions
suggest. I can read the text just fine using the review cursor, only
the automatic speech functionality does not work.
Any help is appreciated.
All the best,
Felix








Re: WebEx screen share inaccessibility?

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello,

Thank you for letting me know that the web version does work. I hadn't tried it yet because I do like using the hotkeys and as  you said, the browser does not support hotkeys. 

At least now I know it might be worth the trade off.

Sadly, my institution has a WebEx license so that is what we have to use.

warmly,
Sally 

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 2:07 PM Vaibhav Saraf <vaibhav.s.acc@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have screen shared on WebEx twice. Unlike you I used webex through browser and I was able to stop my sharing both the times. I did not need to use any hotkeys, I believe none would work when am on a browser.

Although overall experience with WebEx is very poor as compared to other clients.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 at 17:12, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello all,

Is anyone successfully sharing their screen and retaining control of their meeting in WebEx with NVDA? 

I've been corresponding with WebEx Accessibility support and they seem to think it is possible but my experience is that it's not. Can anyone weigh in on whether or not I'm missing something? 

Here is what I'm experiencing:
In any meeting, I am able to successfully control my microphone, video, and attendance using hotkeys. I am also able to start screen sharing including selecting which program is shared. However, this is when things stop working. 

Once a window is shared, all current meeting controls move to a "floating" meeting control bar above the shared window content. I cannot get NVDA to focus on that floating meeting control bar in order to interact with any of the meeting controls such as microphone, video, leaving the meeting, or stopping screen share. 

Accessibility support has suggested using the Ctrl+Shift+Q shortcut for toggling between showing and hiding the meeting control bar while sharing in order to place focus on the meeting control bar. I do get focus on the show/hide warning dialogue . However, in my case focus immediately returns to the shared window content after I press "ok" in the dialogue

Additionally, none of the meeting control hotkeys work, Probably because they are not global and focus is not "on" the WebEx meeting.

My environment is:
WebEx 41.11.0.20717
Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.1348)
NVDA 2021.3

After sharing the contents of a window, is anyone able to get focus on the meeting control bar or otherwise interact with the current meeting? 

For now, I get stuck with whatever microphone/video state I have and am unable to stop screen sharing or leave/end the meeting.

Any and all experience/comments would be helpful.

Thank you!
Sally 


Re: WebEx screen share inaccessibility?

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi,

I have screen shared on WebEx twice. Unlike you I used webex through browser and I was able to stop my sharing both the times. I did not need to use any hotkeys, I believe none would work when am on a browser.

Although overall experience with WebEx is very poor as compared to other clients.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 at 17:12, Sally Kiebdaj <fiddle.pup@...> wrote:
Hello all,

Is anyone successfully sharing their screen and retaining control of their meeting in WebEx with NVDA? 

I've been corresponding with WebEx Accessibility support and they seem to think it is possible but my experience is that it's not. Can anyone weigh in on whether or not I'm missing something? 

Here is what I'm experiencing:
In any meeting, I am able to successfully control my microphone, video, and attendance using hotkeys. I am also able to start screen sharing including selecting which program is shared. However, this is when things stop working. 

Once a window is shared, all current meeting controls move to a "floating" meeting control bar above the shared window content. I cannot get NVDA to focus on that floating meeting control bar in order to interact with any of the meeting controls such as microphone, video, leaving the meeting, or stopping screen share. 

Accessibility support has suggested using the Ctrl+Shift+Q shortcut for toggling between showing and hiding the meeting control bar while sharing in order to place focus on the meeting control bar. I do get focus on the show/hide warning dialogue . However, in my case focus immediately returns to the shared window content after I press "ok" in the dialogue

Additionally, none of the meeting control hotkeys work, Probably because they are not global and focus is not "on" the WebEx meeting.

My environment is:
WebEx 41.11.0.20717
Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.1348)
NVDA 2021.3

After sharing the contents of a window, is anyone able to get focus on the meeting control bar or otherwise interact with the current meeting? 

For now, I get stuck with whatever microphone/video state I have and am unable to stop screen sharing or leave/end the meeting.

Any and all experience/comments would be helpful.

Thank you!
Sally 


Re: Merry Christmas, NVDA Input Gestures Demo

Jacob Kruger
 

Nimer, one thing I might have mentioned in the demo is that, if you shift+tab off the treeview in the input gestures dialogue, then you land in a search box, which can make it a lot easier to find some gesture items, since that treeview contains a lot of items?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-12-25 02:40 AM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello everyone,

First, Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. This year has been a challenging one for me, quite challenging, actually. I know this is true for many of you. Thank you so much for the support you have shown me, and each other, in this forum. Please try to stay safe, remember that we are in a pandemic, but try to be merry as well. For some, the holidays can be a tough time. You are not alone, and things will look brighter, even if it doesn't feel like it now. If you wish to reach out and need someone to talk to, please reach out to me at nimerjaber1@....

Next, BlindTechAdventures is a YouTube channel, and is the home of Nimer and Kirt, and anyone else who wishes to come on. We discuss tech, and any other topic we feel like discussing. This was called Nimer's Tech and Outdoor Adventures channel, but has been renamed.

In any case, the latest video is out. It is a Christmas message, as well as a quick guide on the NVDA Input Gestures settings. Using the Input Gestures settings, I've demonstrated how to assign keyboard commands for a flattened mode of next and previous object navigation, which is the equivalent of the JAWS touch cursor, and is similar to Narrator navigation, and can help you access programs which may have accessibility challenges. I've also assigned a keyboard command to turn on and off the screen curtain. Using the steps I provide, you can change or add gestures or keyboard commands for NVDA functionality.

If you like the content, please consider liking, sharing with your network, and subscribing, in order to receive additional content. If you have comments or suggestions, please send those to nimerjaber1@... or via comment on the YouTube video. If you'd like to come on to discuss tech, or you want to help with the visuals of the channel, etc., please get in touch as well.

To watch the video, please visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmeGih7_O74

To subscribe to the channel, please visit https://www.youtube.com/blindtechadventures

If you celebrate, Merry Christmas.

--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


WebEx screen share inaccessibility?

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello all,

Is anyone successfully sharing their screen and retaining control of their meeting in WebEx with NVDA? 

I've been corresponding with WebEx Accessibility support and they seem to think it is possible but my experience is that it's not. Can anyone weigh in on whether or not I'm missing something? 

Here is what I'm experiencing:
In any meeting, I am able to successfully control my microphone, video, and attendance using hotkeys. I am also able to start screen sharing including selecting which program is shared. However, this is when things stop working. 

Once a window is shared, all current meeting controls move to a "floating" meeting control bar above the shared window content. I cannot get NVDA to focus on that floating meeting control bar in order to interact with any of the meeting controls such as microphone, video, leaving the meeting, or stopping screen share. 

Accessibility support has suggested using the Ctrl+Shift+Q shortcut for toggling between showing and hiding the meeting control bar while sharing in order to place focus on the meeting control bar. I do get focus on the show/hide warning dialogue . However, in my case focus immediately returns to the shared window content after I press "ok" in the dialogue

Additionally, none of the meeting control hotkeys work, Probably because they are not global and focus is not "on" the WebEx meeting.

My environment is:
WebEx 41.11.0.20717
Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.1348)
NVDA 2021.3

After sharing the contents of a window, is anyone able to get focus on the meeting control bar or otherwise interact with the current meeting? 

For now, I get stuck with whatever microphone/video state I have and am unable to stop screen sharing or leave/end the meeting.

Any and all experience/comments would be helpful.

Thank you!
Sally 


A Two Part Question

H l
 

Hey everyone,

 

This is a two-part question, the second of which is nothing really to do with NVDA.

 

I need to take a screenshot ofmy online bank statement showin the balance. How do I do this using NVDA? I can never remember if it’s just the screen print key or another key in combination with that.

The other part of my question is – how do I make my screenshots save directly to the screenshots in the fictures directory on the computer? I don’t want my stuff saved not the one drive at all if I can help it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

Harmony.


Re: Automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters not doing automatic speech

Jacob Kruger
 

Felix, I have a lot of other add-ons installed, including console toolkit, global commands extension, etc. - those two might affect this side of it, but, have no experience with that interpreter, so, sorry can't help more.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-12-27 11:52 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
with the add-on active, NVDA detects the text window in Magnetic as a
terminal, but unlike the standard Windows terminal, NVDA does not
automatically announce new text. What else would there be to tweak?
Thanks,
Felix

Am Mo., 27. Dez. 2021 um 10:48 Uhr schrieb Jacob Kruger <jacob@...>:
It works fine for me using windows frotz 1.19?


That interpreter might also require a bit of interface tweaking - can't remember since been a while, but, it does work?


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-25 10:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hello everyone,
maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I'm using the
automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters add-on,
and for some reason it does not speak automatically in the Magnetic
Scrolls interpreter. I've turned off pictures as the instructions
suggest. I can read the text just fine using the review cursor, only
the automatic speech functionality does not work.
Any help is appreciated.
All the best,
Felix











Re: Automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters not doing automatic speech

Felix G.
 

Hi,
with the add-on active, NVDA detects the text window in Magnetic as a
terminal, but unlike the standard Windows terminal, NVDA does not
automatically announce new text. What else would there be to tweak?
Thanks,
Felix

Am Mo., 27. Dez. 2021 um 10:48 Uhr schrieb Jacob Kruger <jacob@...>:


It works fine for me using windows frotz 1.19?


That interpreter might also require a bit of interface tweaking - can't remember since been a while, but, it does work?


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-25 10:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hello everyone,
maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I'm using the
automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters add-on,
and for some reason it does not speak automatically in the Magnetic
Scrolls interpreter. I've turned off pictures as the instructions
suggest. I can read the text just fine using the review cursor, only
the automatic speech functionality does not work.
Any help is appreciated.
All the best,
Felix






Re: Automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters not doing automatic speech

Jacob Kruger
 

It works fine for me using windows frotz 1.19?


That interpreter might also require a bit of interface tweaking - can't remember since been a while, but, it does work?


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-12-25 10:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hello everyone,
maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I'm using the
automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters add-on,
and for some reason it does not speak automatically in the Magnetic
Scrolls interpreter. I've turned off pictures as the instructions
suggest. I can read the text just fine using the review cursor, only
the automatic speech functionality does not work.
Any help is appreciated.
All the best,
Felix






Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

 

Well the first is the official site.
I never heard about the second, it may be an unofficial site certainly
looks like it.
Not sure who even does it but its not the main site.

On 27/12/2021, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
The first site, available from manage add-ons and using the link you
provided, is the official NVDA add-ons site. Add-ons that are there have
been checked to make sure they have no malicious code.

The second site has add-ons that are both from the official site and those
that aren’t. Those that aren’t may have malicious code. That isn’t to say
that most of them do. I haven’t seen much of anything on the subject. But
many unofficially offered add-ons are not malicious. Some add-ons are being
evaluated by those working for the official site and may be on the
unofficial site before they have finished being evaluated.

If you aren’t sure, you might want to ask about a specific add-on.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel McGee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Hello everyone.



I am somewhat confused.

regarding the two following resources for NVDA add-ons, why do two
sources exists? As a posed to just one main central resource.


The first which can be accessed by the following keystrokes.


Caps-Lock N, for NVDA Menu, T, tools,A, manage add-ons, alt G, get add-ons.


Or the following link.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html


The second resource


www.nvda-addons.org


Regards


Daniel











Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Gene
 

The first site, available from manage add-ons and using the link you provided, is the official NVDA add-ons site.  Add-ons that are there have been checked to make sure they have no malicious code. 
 
The second site has add-ons that are both from the official site and those that aren’t.  Those that aren’t may have malicious code.  That isn’t to say that most of them do.  I haven’t seen much of anything on the subject.  But many unofficially offered add-ons are not malicious.  Some add-ons are being evaluated by those working for the official site and may be on the unofficial site before they have finished being evaluated. 
 
If you aren’t sure, you might want to ask about a specific add-on. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 8:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons resources differences?
 
Hello everyone.



I am somewhat confused.

regarding the two following resources for NVDA add-ons, why do two
sources exists? As a posed to just one main central resource.


The first which can be accessed by the following keystrokes.


Caps-Lock N, for NVDA Menu, T, tools,A, manage add-ons, alt G, get add-ons.


Or the following link.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html


The second  resource


www.nvda-addons.org


Regards


Daniel






Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

John Isige
 

Basically? I think because there's a process to go through to get your
addon added to the NVDA Community Addons site, your first link, and some
people don't want to do that. You had, probably still do, other addon
sites floating around with half-finished addons and illegal addons and
the like.


So I'm guessing somebody wanted to make a site to sort of vet some of
those other addons. There are addons that haven't gone through the
process to get on the community site, but that doesn't mean those addons
are necessarily bad. I also have a feeling that there are addons in
other languages besides English, and again, I don't think there are any
of those on the Community site. So there's another reason to have a site
that might catch some of those things. If they can develop a good
reputation, it's another resource for people to go to, and a way to get
good addons to people even if developers don't feel like going through
the process to get on the Community site.

On 12/26/2021 8:01 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
Hello everyone.



I am somewhat confused.

regarding the two following resources for NVDA add-ons, why do two
sources exists? As a posed to just one main central resource.


The first which can be accessed by the following keystrokes.


Caps-Lock N, for NVDA Menu, T, tools,A, manage add-ons, alt G, get
add-ons.


Or the following link.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html


The second  resource


www.nvda-addons.org


Regards


Daniel





NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Daniel McGee
 

Hello everyone.



I am somewhat confused.

regarding the two following resources for NVDA add-ons, why do two sources exists? As a posed to just one main central resource.


The first which can be accessed by the following keystrokes.


Caps-Lock N, for NVDA Menu, T, tools,A, manage add-ons, alt G, get add-ons.


Or the following link.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html


The second  resource


www.nvda-addons.org


Regards


Daniel


Re: Christmas present from Joseph Lee: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.01 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Part of that depends on when NV Access folks will get a chance to review the distribution queue a.k.a. pull requests.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Christmas present from Joseph Lee: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.01 #addonrelease

Louise Pfau
 

Hi Joseph.  I'm currently checking the group archive from a computer that only has core NVDA installed, but I have the add-ons mentioned in this thread installed on my own pc.  Will the add-ons in question be likely to receive community approval by January, and therefore be caught by Add-on Updater?  This thread will likely be further back in the archive by the time I can check it on my own pc to retrieve  the direct download links.

Thanks,

Louise


locked Re: Checking in

 

I suspect it's a spoof, not a hack.  But in any case, I'll burn a pile of my money if it's from Orlando!

Topic locked, and original message should just be deleted and ignored.  It's shown up on at least 3 groups and the messages appeared within several minutes of each other.  The writing style is not correct, the signature is not correct, and Orlando would not be very likely to ask a question such as the one posed.
--

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The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill

 

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