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Connection Problem with NVDA remote

Lee Julien
 

Hi,
 
I can no longer connect with NVDAremote.
I have the latest version of NVDA and the Remote.
But the portable version works great.
Does anyone have a solution?
Thanks.
Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

José Manuel Delicado Alcolea
 

Hi everyone,

Before answering to the question about code review, I should explain what nvda-addons.org is and why it was created. This is the first time I participate on this list, so I don't know if another member of the NVDA.es group has already done it before.

One of the main goals of the spanish community is to collect all available add-ons around the world in a single directory, excluding illegal and malicious ones. We are aware that we won't achieve completely this goal, but we continue exploring several groups, GitHub profiles and repositories, websites created by other communities, etc. This brings many advantages to our users and developers. Repeated work is avoided, people knows about wonderful add-ons developed outside the community, and our developers have very good code samples that they can use as starting points. I could list even more advantages, but this message would become too long.

Maintaining the directory becomes harder as more add-ons are added. We have to watch the source repositories, websites and so on when available and notify the community of add-on updates. This is the reason we developed our first solution: https://github.com/nvda-es/advancedAddonFiles

Since the directory became machine-readable and exportable in JSON format, Héctor decided to create the "Tienda NVDA.es" add-on, translated as "NVDA.es store". Updates are available as soon as the download links are modified from the web interface, avoiding delays seen in the international community, which relies on other procedures. User accounts can be created for add-on authors, who can update download links for their NVDA add-ons, but can't register or delete add-ons from the database.

The nvda-addons.org website is built on top of this web application, and aims to share all we have achieved so far beyond the spanish community.

After this short introduction, It's time to talk about reviews. We take code reviews very seriously, specially since review process is optional in the international community. When an add-on author introduces their work in the spanish mailing list, we perform a deep review and provide suggestions. When corrections are applied, we upload it to nvda-addons.org and publish the add-on documentation translated to spanish on the nvda.es website.

If the add-on comes from outside, a light validation is performed. Only security issues and license / copyright are checked in this case.

On november 2021, we published a guide on how to review add-ons. We encourage you to take a look. Use the Google Translate combo box located inside the web page or the translator of your choice: https://nvda.es/documentacion/desarrollo/documentacion-de-la-comunidad-hispanohablante/guia-de-revision-de-complementos/

Regards.


El 28/12/2021 a las 20:16, Rui Fontes escribió:
Yes, the last add-on I submitted was reviewed by NVDA.es...

Just after corrections it was published.


Rui Fontes


Às 16:55 de 27/12/2021, Mani Iyer via groups.io escreveu:
Just curious to know if a code review is done as part of the evaluation process.

Mani


On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

The add-ons are evaluated and they are not posted if they are not secure...


Rui Fontes


Às 16:28 de 27/12/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:
The add ons page, the secone one is for all add ons non official and official and for all versions. I quite like that one better as I can access stuff including betas if the developers put their stuff up there. Be careful though as I don't think those add ons are not vetted.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Hello everyone.



I am somewhat confused.

regarding the two following resources for NVDA add-ons, why do two sources exists? As a posed to just one main central resource.


The first which can be accessed by the following keystrokes.


Caps-Lock N, for NVDA Menu, T, tools,A, manage add-ons, alt G, get add-ons.


Or the following link.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html


The second  resource


www.nvda-addons.org


Regards


Daniel

























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Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, the last add-on I submitted was reviewed by NVDA.es...

Just after corrections it was published.


Rui Fontes


Às 16:55 de 27/12/2021, Mani Iyer via groups.io escreveu:

Just curious to know if a code review is done as part of the evaluation process.

Mani


On Dec 27, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

The add-ons are evaluated and they are not posted if they are not secure...


Rui Fontes


Às 16:28 de 27/12/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:
The add ons page, the secone one is for all add ons non official and official and for all versions. I quite like that one better as I can access stuff including betas if the developers put their stuff up there. Be careful though as I don't think those add ons are not vetted.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Hello everyone.



I am somewhat confused.

regarding the two following resources for NVDA add-ons, why do two sources exists? As a posed to just one main central resource.


The first which can be accessed by the following keystrokes.


Caps-Lock N, for NVDA Menu, T, tools,A, manage add-ons, alt G, get add-ons.


Or the following link.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html


The second resource


www.nvda-addons.org


Regards


Daniel
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Ali Colak
 

Thanks, will do.

On 12/28/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
I'll try and find it. Honestly I totally forgot to look yesterday, or I can
give you the groups.io page hwerein this list is. This guy posts all the
time and there are a lot of very very helpful people on there.



Here is the link to the list page. <https://groups.io/g/orbit-reader> There
you will find all email addresses to sub, unsub and much much more. It will
probably be much much faster if you sub and ask your questions as you and I
are both very new to braille displays. Orbit are even on there so you get
to talk to the CO themselves.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.



Hello,

Sarah k Alawami, if you can poast that link I will be greatful, the orbit
reader user guide was uninformative.



There is a possibility that all of this is due to the fact that HID support
is at infancy, but I am not sure as I am new to using a braille display with
a screen reader. While I have downloaded braille extender and will be
exploring its features, I don't see them having any use for me as the
gestures I am trying to work with are already defined in NVDA.







On 12/27/21, Mani Iyer via groups.io < <mailto:mani.g.iyer@...>
mani.g.iyer@...> wrote:

Hello Lino,
I use the Orbit Writer with my iPhone. As someone new to NVDA can you
tell me if you can use the Orbit Writer with a Windows laptop without
having to resort to the laptop keyboard for any reason ?
Thanks.
Warmly,
Mani
On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Lino Morales <
<mailto:linomorales001@...> linomorales001@...>
wrote:
You need to read the manual Orbit Research has. I'm sure its located
on their site. I'm sure their commands specificly for NVDA. I have an
Orbit Writer. I don't know if the commands for the reader and writer
are the same or not.
On 12/27/2021 7:05 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:
I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading
its help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use
for your particular purposes.
-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali
Colak
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.
Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t
work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the
orbit reader 40, there is no responce.
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'll try and find it. Honestly I totally forgot to look yesterday, or I can give you the groups.io page hwerein this list is. This guy posts all the time and there are a lot of very very helpful people on there.

 

Here is the link to the list page. There you will find all email addresses to sub, unsub and much much more. It will probably be much much faster if you sub and ask your questions as you and I are both very new to braille displays. Orbit are even  on there so you get to talk to the CO themselves.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 8:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

 

Hello,

Sarah k Alawami, if you can poast that link I will be greatful, the orbit reader user guide was uninformative.

 

There is a possibility that all of this is due to the fact that HID support is at infancy, but I am not sure as I am new to using a braille display with a screen reader. While I have downloaded braille extender and will be exploring its features, I don't see them having any use for me as the gestures I am trying to work with are already defined in NVDA.

 

 

 

On 12/27/21, Mani Iyer via groups.io <mani.g.iyer@...> wrote:

> Hello Lino,

> I use the Orbit Writer with my iPhone. As someone new to NVDA can you

> tell me if you can use the Orbit Writer with a Windows laptop without

> having to resort to the laptop keyboard for any reason ?

> Thanks.

> 

> Warmly,

> Mani

> 

> 

>> On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> You need to read the manual Orbit Research has. I'm sure its located

>> on their site. I'm sure their commands specificly for NVDA. I have an

>> Orbit Writer. I don't know if the commands for the reader and writer

>> are the same or not.

>> 

>> On 12/27/2021 7:05 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:

>>> I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading

>>> its help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use

>>> for your particular purposes.

>>> 

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali

>>> Colak

>>> Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23

>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>> Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

>>> 

>>> Hello,

>>> Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t

>>> work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the

>>> orbit reader 40, there is no responce.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

> 

 

 

 

 
Re: how to get telugu language on my nvda

Gene
 

I just checked and Telugu is available using E-Speak.  there may be other options but I’m informing you of this one.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to get telugu language on my nvda
 
Have you ever had it on another machine?

I cannot find any Microsoft supplied language option for Telugu for text to speech, though under Windows 10 it does exist for the Windows interface itself.

This is a function of the synth you are using so you'd need one that includes Telugu among the languages it can read.  If you had it before, then you need to check out what configuration was in use where you did have it before.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill

 
Re: how to get telugu language on my nvda

Brian Vogel
 

Have you ever had it on another machine?

I cannot find any Microsoft supplied language option for Telugu for text to speech, though under Windows 10 it does exist for the Windows interface itself.

This is a function of the synth you are using so you'd need one that includes Telugu among the languages it can read.  If you had it before, then you need to check out what configuration was in use where you did have it before.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill

 
how to get telugu language on my nvda

sazid shaik
 

hello friends,
i am using nvda version nvda_2021.3.1rc1 on my windows 7 but i m
unable to read telugu language on my computer. but i searched in
settings but could not find this language.

please tell me how to instal that?

thanks and regards,
sazid
Re: Merry Christmas, NVDA Input Gestures Demo

Jacob Kruger
 

Agree, at times, but, at other times, searching with selective keywords allows me to narrow it down quite a bit, instead of having to browse categories too much.


Anyway, no disrespect meant, but, was just mentioning one of my own forms of tips and tricks in this context.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2021-12-27 09:09 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello,

Yes, I realize I didn't mention that. What I find with NVDA is that the gestures aren't always named clearly, so I, personally, have a hard time knowing exactly what to search for. My searches can narrow down results, but by that point, it can be simpler to simply go to the category in the tree, then find the setting in question. In any case, I was going more for teaching concepts of traversing a tree. Nonetheless, I will be sure to mention the search box in the next video.

Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 4:55 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Nimer, one thing I might have mentioned in the demo is that, if you shift+tab off the treeview in the input gestures dialogue, then you land in a search box, which can make it a lot easier to find some gesture items, since that treeview contains a lot of items?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-25 02:40 AM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello everyone,

First, Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. This year has been a challenging one for me, quite challenging, actually. I know this is true for many of you. Thank you so much for the support you have shown me, and each other, in this forum. Please try to stay safe, remember that we are in a pandemic, but try to be merry as well. For some, the holidays can be a tough time. You are not alone, and things will look brighter, even if it doesn't feel like it now. If you wish to reach out and need someone to talk to, please reach out to me at nimerjaber1@....

Next, BlindTechAdventures is a YouTube channel, and is the home of Nimer and Kirt, and anyone else who wishes to come on. We discuss tech, and any other topic we feel like discussing. This was called Nimer's Tech and Outdoor Adventures channel, but has been renamed.

In any case, the latest video is out. It is a Christmas message, as well as a quick guide on the NVDA Input Gestures settings. Using the Input Gestures settings, I've demonstrated how to assign keyboard commands for a flattened mode of next and previous object navigation, which is the equivalent of the JAWS touch cursor, and is similar to Narrator navigation, and can help you access programs which may have accessibility challenges. I've also assigned a keyboard command to turn on and off the screen curtain. Using the steps I provide, you can change or add gestures or keyboard commands for NVDA functionality.

If you like the content, please consider liking, sharing with your network, and subscribing, in order to receive additional content. If you have comments or suggestions, please send those to nimerjaber1@... or via comment on the YouTube video. If you'd like to come on to discuss tech, or you want to help with the visuals of the channel, etc., please get in touch as well.

To watch the video, please visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmeGih7_O74

To subscribe to the channel, please visit https://www.youtube.com/blindtechadventures

If you celebrate, Merry Christmas.

--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Ali Colak
 

Hello,
Sarah k Alawami, if you can poast that link I will be greatful, the
orbit reader user guide was uninformative.

There is a possibility that all of this is due to the fact that HID
support is at infancy, but I am not sure as I am new to using a
braille display with a screen reader. While I have downloaded braille
extender and will be exploring its features, I don't see them having
any use for me as the gestures I am trying to work with are already
defined in NVDA.

On 12/27/21, Mani Iyer via groups.io <mani.g.iyer@...> wrote:
Hello Lino,
I use the Orbit Writer with my iPhone. As someone new to NVDA can you tell
me if you can use the Orbit Writer with a Windows laptop without having to
resort to the laptop keyboard for any reason ?
Thanks.

Warmly,
Mani


On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
wrote:

You need to read the manual Orbit Research has. I'm sure its located on
their site. I'm sure their commands specificly for NVDA. I have an Orbit
Writer. I don't know if the commands for the reader and writer are the
same or not.

On 12/27/2021 7:05 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:
I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading its
help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use for your
particular purposes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t work
with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the orbit reader
40, there is no responce.
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Mani Iyer
 

Hello Lino,
I use the Orbit Writer with my iPhone. As someone new to NVDA can you tell me if you can use the Orbit Writer with a Windows laptop without having to resort to the laptop keyboard for any reason ?
Thanks.

Warmly,
Mani

On Dec 27, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:

You need to read the manual Orbit Research has. I'm sure its located on their site. I'm sure their commands specificly for NVDA. I have an Orbit Writer. I don't know if the commands for the reader and writer are the same or not.

On 12/27/2021 7:05 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:
I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading its help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use for your particular purposes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the orbit reader 40, there is no responce.
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I know that someone on the orbit list compiled a list of easy to find manuals and driver updates that are not so confusing. I actually need to access that site myself shortly. If I can find the link I'll post it here.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

You need to read the manual Orbit Research has. I'm sure its located on their site. I'm sure their commands specificly for NVDA. I have an Orbit Writer. I don't know if the commands for the reader and writer are the same or not.

On 12/27/2021 7:05 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:
I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading its help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use for your particular purposes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the orbit reader 40, there is no responce.
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

You need to read the manual Orbit Research has. I'm sure its located on their site. I'm sure their commands specificly for NVDA. I have an Orbit Writer. I don't know if the commands for the reader and writer are the same or not.

On 12/27/2021 7:05 PM, Jason White via groups.io wrote:
I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading its help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use for your particular purposes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the orbit reader 40, there is no responce.
Re: Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Jason White
 

I would suggest installing the BrailleExtender add-on, then reading its help to discover the braille display keys that you need to use for your particular purposes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Colak
Sent: Monday, 27 December 2021 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the orbit reader 40, there is no responce.
Function keys on orbit reader 40.

Ali Colak
 

Hello,
Is there anyway to make the function keys like space+n and space+t
work with NVDA. When I press space+n to go the NVDA menu on the orbit
reader 40, there is no responce.
Re: NVDA with touch screen windows 2 in 1 laptops

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The user guide has all the touch gestures you can use with nvda. The user guide is broken up into desktop, lap top and touch gestures and what that command does.


Just in case you are new use the nvda key + letter N to bring up the preferences of nvda, go down to help then user guide.


The following link is not a tutorial but will point you towards a page with touch gestures only.


The link to this page is http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials.html


When you go there locate the heading called touch gestures and just under it is  a link to a page with all the touch gestures so far for nvda. I did the same for a lap top user as the tutorials on my website are more desk top only as that is what I use.


Gene nz


On 28/12/2021 8:14 am, Blind Gamer wrote:

Hi all
I have Microsoft surface Pro 7
I need help for how to use NVDA with touch screen
If anybody has any tutorials so please post it here
Thanks
NVDA with touch screen windows 2 in 1 laptops

Blind Gamer
 

Hi all
I have Microsoft surface Pro 7
I need help for how to use NVDA with touch screen
If anybody has any tutorials so please post it here
Thanks
Re: Merry Christmas, NVDA Input Gestures Demo

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

Yes, I realize I didn't mention that. What I find with NVDA is that the gestures aren't always named clearly, so I, personally, have a hard time knowing exactly what to search for. My searches can narrow down results, but by that point, it can be simpler to simply go to the category in the tree, then find the setting in question. In any case, I was going more for teaching concepts of traversing a tree. Nonetheless, I will be sure to mention the search box in the next video.

Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 4:55 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Nimer, one thing I might have mentioned in the demo is that, if you shift+tab off the treeview in the input gestures dialogue, then you land in a search box, which can make it a lot easier to find some gesture items, since that treeview contains a lot of items?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2021-12-25 02:40 AM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello everyone,

First, Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. This year has been a challenging one for me, quite challenging, actually. I know this is true for many of you. Thank you so much for the support you have shown me, and each other, in this forum. Please try to stay safe, remember that we are in a pandemic, but try to be merry as well. For some, the holidays can be a tough time. You are not alone, and things will look brighter, even if it doesn't feel like it now. If you wish to reach out and need someone to talk to, please reach out to me at nimerjaber1@....

Next, BlindTechAdventures is a YouTube channel, and is the home of Nimer and Kirt, and anyone else who wishes to come on. We discuss tech, and any other topic we feel like discussing. This was called Nimer's Tech and Outdoor Adventures channel, but has been renamed.

In any case, the latest video is out. It is a Christmas message, as well as a quick guide on the NVDA Input Gestures settings. Using the Input Gestures settings, I've demonstrated how to assign keyboard commands for a flattened mode of next and previous object navigation, which is the equivalent of the JAWS touch cursor, and is similar to Narrator navigation, and can help you access programs which may have accessibility challenges. I've also assigned a keyboard command to turn on and off the screen curtain. Using the steps I provide, you can change or add gestures or keyboard commands for NVDA functionality.

If you like the content, please consider liking, sharing with your network, and subscribing, in order to receive additional content. If you have comments or suggestions, please send those to nimerjaber1@... or via comment on the YouTube video. If you'd like to come on to discuss tech, or you want to help with the visuals of the channel, etc., please get in touch as well.

To watch the video, please visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmeGih7_O74

To subscribe to the channel, please visit https://www.youtube.com/blindtechadventures

If you celebrate, Merry Christmas.

--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
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Nimer Jaber

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!
Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

Most add-ons are introduced without translations, or if introduced, are not localized yet. The reason is that users would like to know if the new add-on is something they wish to use before translators say they will localize add-ons. Although readiness for localization is considered as part of old user experience review process, the priority for this case is getting something working in the beginning. After add-on authors say the add-on is ready and distributed, localization then takes place (this is partly due to the translation workflow we have).

I understand that this might not be the answer you are looking for, but the community can assure you that we do look at translations seriously (several community leaders speak English as a second language, therefore we understand the importance of translation and localization work).

Cheers,

Joseph
Re: NVDA add-ons resources differences?

Joseph Lee
 

Hi all,

Some answers:

  • Review required: in the past, basic review (license and copyright, security, user experience, documentation, NVDA compatibility) was needed to introduce new add-ons to the community add-ons website (all five parts must pass). Although it had the advantage of letting the community know that the add-on was okay to use, an obvious downside was that only several members reviewed new add-ons (in the beginning add-on updates too were reviewed, which was since relaxed to review only new add-ons). This has changed recently so that add-ons can be introduced to the website (eventually through a store) if a description is given, add-on link is published and working, and does not dodge NVDA compatibility statements (for instance, if an add-on declares compatibility with a version of NVDA not in circulation, it will not be accepted). Therefore, add-on reviews are encouraged but are not required (think of NVDA Advanced OCR add-on - it made its debut a few days ago, and developers provided a description and a download link here; ideally new add-on intros (add-on name, author, description, download link, source code repository if it exists, NVDA compatibility info) would appear on NVDA add-ons list first so interested members can review and comment while the add-on is registered if developers say yes). This change was made in preparation for a store process (discussed below).
  • Store submission process: although not formalized yet, the process involved in distributing add-ons through a future store uses pull requests. An add-on author would submit new or updated add-on release metadata through a pull request, which will be accepted and made visible to add-on store clients (including NVDA). There are things taking place behind the scenes, but details are still yet to be determined (since store submission process was drafted by NV Access and add-ons community with NV Access taking primary responsibilities, it is up to NV Access to finalize things when they are ready).
  • Add-on distribution process, then and now: until early 2021 I (Joseph Lee) served as primary maintainer of add-on files database (the database itself was created in 2013 to host download links for add-ons on the community add-ons website). Whenever new add-ons were introduced (passed the basic review then) or updated, I would log onto add-on files repository and update the database. In 2021, as part of add-on store proposal, I and NV Access staff agreed to use pull requests for add-on submission process. As a result, NV Access manages add-on files database, with add-on authors submitting pull requests whenever folks need to add or update add-ons. Currently, an add-on author would submit a pull request when add-on updates are released, with another add-on author reviewing the pull request (the pull request consists of two parts: the new add-on download link, and updated add-on metadata). After the second add-on author (not the person who developed the updated add-on) reviews add-on metadata, NV Access staff would certify the update by approving the pull request and making the new add-on download link available by updating add-on files database (the entire process of creating a pull request, review from an add-on author, NV Access certification, updating add-on files database) is what I call "queueing for distribution"). The goal of the 2021 process is to test add-on store submission process, with the whole thing being automated and simplified by the time the add-on store becomes reality - that is, after creating a pull request to register new or updated add-ons, add-on store workflow will do its magic and make the new and/or updated add-ons available for you within minutes compared to hours as of now.
  • Add-ons from other sources: you are welcome to install add-ons from sources other than community add-ons website. Note that NVDA may block add-on installation if it determines the add-on is not compatible based on add-on manifest information. You can "overcome" this by editing the manifest, but I strongly discourage this (unless this is the last resort) as add-on modules themselves might be using code that's changed or removed from NVDA itself. This is the reason why members of the add-ons list are informed about changes that can have impact on add-ons.
  • What about add-on security: there is potential for malicious activity by add-ons as add-ons (and for that matter, NVDA) is written in Python. The add-ons community takes security seriously and we take action if told an add-on is not doing what it says it does (folks do provide comment on add-on source code from time to time). Security is the reason why NVDA itself has a "secure" mode where access to the file system, logs, add-ons manager, and updates are restricted or disallowed, and add-ons do check for "secure" flag and exit if NVDA is operating in this mode (unless the add-on author and/or source code says otherwise). Ultimately, add-on security depends on human attitudes (add-on author, community members, and ultimately, users).
  • Can folks propose add-ons for community distribution: of course. For old add-ons, please test them with latest NVDA stable release (2021.3.1) to make sure they are compatible, and if not, either modify the add-on or set compatibility to the oldest supported NVDA release. This is more so if an add-on was not maintained past 2019 and is written in Python 2; although the community does not have an official word on Python 2, in January 2022 add-on development guide (to be discussed on add-ons list) will state that Python 3 is required, and consequently, NVDA 2019.3 or later.
  • What about add-on licensing: what I say should be taken with a grain of salt as I'm not a lawyer. Add-ons community had a debate about this for a while. The consensus seems to be that any part of an add-on that directly touches NVDA screen reader (namely calling functions and inheriting classes from NVDA) must be licensed under GNU General Public license version 2 as these parts are derived works of NVDA. NV Access does state two exceptions in their license document: code included with add-ons (called "plugins" and "drivers" in the document) with a different license (including proprietary code), and Microsoft redistributable modules; in case of the add-on exception, as long as the component that uses something licensed differently still allows the parent add-on to be licensed under GPL 2 and does not use NVDA code and/or used by NVDA, it can be included. For example, Resource Monitor, an add-on that uses NVDA code, is licensed under GPL 2; this add-on relies on psutil, a Python library licensed under 3-Clause BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) license compatible with GPL, therefore psutil can be used in this add-on. If an add-on author has doubts about license terms of components to be used in an add-on, do ask for advice on add-ons list and/or look up compatibility between the component licenses and GPL.

In closing, let me clarify that I am not an employee of NV Access, nor am paid to maintain add-ons infrastructure for them. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph
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