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Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Rowen Cary
 

Hi Tony, I would also like to know what the Wikipedia-style checkbox is used for in sentence-nav. Can you briefly talk about it?

Grateful


Re: Editing Email Signature

Mani Iyer
 

Hello Gene,
Thank you so much for the Windows Mail tutorial. It is clear and simple. It will help me greatly to get familiar with Mail using NVDA.

mani

On Jan 5, 2022, at 5:24 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


I forgot about the tutorial on my website that David did. It is for the windows mail app and has a section for the signature.


I do not use it so have not tried to put one on to the end of my emails as I use thunder bird and I have it there.


The link to where it can be found is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

The tutorial comes off my main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

There is a section in there that might help for the signature part of it.



Gene nz


On 4/01/2022 4:24 am, Armando Vias wrote:
Hello. I am trying to edit my signature using the Mail Client For Windows 10. Unfortunately, it is not accessible. How can I work around this issue?

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Armando Vias







Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

William
 

Tony,

One thing I have not found the answer, actually, why are there quick jump 2, quick jump 3, quick click 2, quick click 3? Any special case to use these category?


I am now all setting bookmarks as quick jump default or quick click 1.


Thanks


Tony Malykh 於 4/1/2022 7:07 寫道:

Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       


Best regards

--Tony



Re: Editing Email Signature

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I forgot about the tutorial on my website that David did. It is for the windows mail app and has a section for the signature.


I do not use it so have not tried to put one on to the end of my emails as I use thunder bird and I have it there.


The link to where it can be found is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

The tutorial comes off my main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

There is a section in there that might help for the signature part of it.



Gene nz

On 4/01/2022 4:24 am, Armando Vias wrote:
Hello. I am trying to edit my signature using the Mail Client For Windows 10. Unfortunately, it is not accessible. How can I work around this issue?

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Armando Vias




Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Tony Malykh
 

Go to any page that belongs to your website and and then press NVDA+J > Websites > Create new website for domain ...

On 1/4/2022 7:49 PM, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Dear tony

 

Thanks for the below explanation but one thing I’m not sure how to go about it and this is How to define a website? Do I need to performa particular command?

Thank you

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss via groups.io
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Well technically a website is basically a page of links and other data that has all the information you use.

So thats everything from a search engine to youtube or something, to a blog to even ftp sites if they are viewed in a brouser over https which a lot are.

There are other types so maybe you need to be spaciffic about what sub catigry of site you mean is probably.

Even a forum is a site.

A url is a shortcut really or a link though that can be confused.

Website is quite generic as a word though.

I forgot the actual deffinition but it was really for the place the information you wanted out was stored back in the day where it was just a server with it on.

With everything on the cloud well who knows.

The net is a really old beast now.

 

 

On 5/01/2022 10:24 am, Tony Malykh wrote:

Thanks for feedback. I guess writing documentation is not one of my strengths :) But let me try again. Here are the steps.

First you need to define website. Site is identified by URL address or its part. For example for YouTube you would want to match any url from youtube.com domain. Best way to achieve this would be to go to any YouTube video and then press NVDA+J > Websites > Create new website for domain www.youtube.com. Optionally (but recommendedd) is to give this website a legible name - tab to Display Name edit box and type something that you can easily recognize, e.g. "YouTube". Press OK.

2. Then go to paragraph you would like to bookmark. Press NVDA+J > Bookmarks > Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site Youtube. Dialog window will open.

3. For QuickJump bookmark just  click OK. If oy you would like to configure a different kind of bookmark - you need to configure it in this window - please refer to  documentation for this.

LMK if you have any other questions!

--Tony

 

On 1/3/2022 11:37 PM, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Goodmorning,

 

I just download the nvda add-on called: BrowserNav v2.2 and installed but I didn’t manage to understand exactly how it works. I read the help file but I ffound it difficult to understand, I’m mostly interested in few steps how to create a bookmark on a website I understand this feature is similar to the one that jaws has to make web markers.

 

I sincerely appreciate if someone send me the steps how to create website bookmarks on website using the nvda.

 

Thanks,

Michael micallef

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William via groups.io
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

 

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Tony thanks for the amazing work, I need another year to learn about the new features:p

 

Rui Fontes 4/1/2022 8:16 寫道:

Hello!

 

I can help managing your add-ons, except on the current translation method...

I haven't yet figured how to deal with it...

 

I can't promiss I will act immediatly in all times, but I will try to do it as soon as possible...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 23:07 de 03/01/2022, Tony Malykh escreveu:

Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       

 

Best regards

--Tony

 


Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Steve Nutt
 

Not only that, you can’t skip all ads. Some won’t let you skip until you’ve played part way through them.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 04 January 2022 20:58
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You would have to find the skip button. If it is located in the same place every time that should not be a deal braker.

 

Good luck.


 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mystragical@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 12:09 PM
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Anyone managed to assign a bookmark to skip adds button on youtube? Is it possible with this addon?


Re: Getting NVDA to say the phrase, "No Next," rather than, "Non ext"

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 10:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

A work around, although this should be fixed, is to make a dictionary entry and replace nonext with no next.

 

But I agree, it is in the NVDA code,

-
Steve,

You're about to get what's going to become one of my "standard lectures" as moderator during 2022:  Please read the entirety of an existing topic before posting any reply to it.

The issue is not in the NVDA code.  The issue is not even in the synthesizer.  The issue was the result of a sloppy regex match and replace in my default dictionary.

All of this had been covered, in its entirety, and had "finished up" yesterday.  You're rehashing old territory, and what you're saying is not accurate to this specific situation, either.
 
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Re: Getting NVDA to say the phrase, "No Next," rather than, "Non ext"

Steve Nutt
 

Jean, this is probably because if you split caps, like this: “NoNext” some synths, including Eloquence will treat it as two words, but others won’t.

 

The default OneCore voices don’t do this.

 

All the best


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 03 January 2022 16:03
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to say the phrase, "No Next," rather than, "Non ext"

 

That appears to be an artifact of whatever synthesizer you are using.  I hear it spoken correctly with Eloquence and E-Speak.

 

Gene

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Subject: [nvda] Getting NVDA to say the phrase, "No Next," rather than, "Non ext"

 

This has been driving me insane for a while, but I've chosen to ignore it up until now.

Any time NVDA hits a case where there is "no next" something, like during object navigation or screen review, it has always said something that's much more akin to "non ext."

I have to believe that this is because, somewhere, the actual two word text phrase, "No Next," is in the bowels of NVDA somewhere, hopefully in settings, entered as a single word, "nonext."

When there is not a next of thing X, I want to hear, "No Next thing X," not, "non ext thing X."
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Re: Getting NVDA to say the phrase, "No Next," rather than, "Non ext"

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

A work around, although this should be fixed, is to make a dictionary entry and replace nonext with no next.

 

But I agree, it is in the NVDA code, someone can’t spell. 😊

 

All the best


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 03 January 2022 15:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting NVDA to say the phrase, "No Next," rather than, "Non ext"

 

This has been driving me insane for a while, but I've chosen to ignore it up until now.

Any time NVDA hits a case where there is "no next" something, like during object navigation or screen review, it has always said something that's much more akin to "non ext."

I have to believe that this is because, somewhere, the actual two word text phrase, "No Next," is in the bowels of NVDA somewhere, hopefully in settings, entered as a single word, "nonext."

When there is not a next of thing X, I want to hear, "No Next thing X," not, "non ext thing X."
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Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

William
 

if another name, could it just 'url'?


Tony Malykh 於 5/1/2022 9:49 寫道:

In BrowserNav site refers to a way of telling which bookmarks belong where. For example, you might want to have a bookmark on a single specific URL, or on a whole domain, or on domain with all of its subdomains. Or you might want to have a fancy regular expression that defines the set of URLs where you wish to apply your bookmark. That set of all URLs is called "site" in BrowserNav. Maybe I shouldn't call this site to avoid confusion. Could you come up with a better name?

On 1/4/2022 3:47 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well technically a website is basically a page of links and other data that has all the information you use.

So thats everything from a search engine to youtube or something, to a blog to even ftp sites if they are viewed in a brouser over https which a lot are.

There are other types so maybe you need to be spaciffic about what sub catigry of site you mean is probably.

Even a forum is a site.

A url is a shortcut really or a link though that can be confused.

Website is quite generic as a word though.

I forgot the actual deffinition but it was really for the place the information you wanted out was stored back in the day where it was just a server with it on.

With everything on the cloud well who knows.

The net is a really old beast now.



On 5/01/2022 10:24 am, Tony Malykh wrote:

Thanks for feedback. I guess writing documentation is not one of my strengths :) But let me try again. Here are the steps.

First you need to define website. Site is identified by URL address or its part. For example for YouTube you would want to match any url from youtube.com domain. Best way to achieve this would be to go to any YouTube video and then press NVDA+J > Websites > Create new website for domain www.youtube.com. Optionally (but recommendedd) is to give this website a legible name - tab to Display Name edit box and type something that you can easily recognize, e.g. "YouTube". Press OK.

2. Then go to paragraph you would like to bookmark. Press NVDA+J > Bookmarks > Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site Youtube. Dialog window will open.

3. For QuickJump bookmark just  click OK. If oy you would like to configure a different kind of bookmark - you need to configure it in this window - please refer to  documentation for this.

LMK if you have any other questions!

--Tony


On 1/3/2022 11:37 PM, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Goodmorning,

 

I just download the nvda add-on called: BrowserNav v2.2 and installed but I didn’t manage to understand exactly how it works. I read the help file but I ffound it difficult to understand, I’m mostly interested in few steps how to create a bookmark on a website I understand this feature is similar to the one that jaws has to make web markers.

 

I sincerely appreciate if someone send me the steps how to create website bookmarks on website using the nvda.

 

Thanks,

Michael micallef

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William via groups.io
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Tony thanks for the amazing work, I need another year to learn about the new features:p

 

Rui Fontes 4/1/2022 8:16 寫道:

Hello!

 

I can help managing your add-ons, except on the current translation method...

I haven't yet figured how to deal with it...

 

I can't promiss I will act immediatly in all times, but I will try to do it as soon as possible...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 23:07 de 03/01/2022, Tony Malykh escreveu:

Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       

 

Best regards

--Tony

 


Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

William
 

Thanks very much.




Tony Malykh 於 5/1/2022 9:58 寫道:

I think BrowserNav should work in Outlook, although I didn't test it thoroughly.

First you need to define a site. The problem here is that in browsers sites are deduced from URL, and there is no URL in Outlook. In fact when I try to query URL it returns an empty string. So we need to match an empty string. Somehow I made a condition that prohibits empty string. So a quick workaround would be to use regular expression. So you may enter:

URL:

^$

Match Type: Regex match of URL

This would match all pages with empty URL, such as all pages in Outlook.

Then for this site you can create bookmarks.

One bug that I just found while trying this is that when you define a bookmark, setting it to "exact paragraph match" doesn't appear to work. So you'd need to set it to "Substring paragraph match" or regular expression if you know how to use them. I should fix this in the next release.

HTH


On 1/4/2022 2:22 AM, William wrote:

Hi Tony,

I have tried using the app on site like Youtube, I was able to generate a bookmark on the play pause button.

But I have came across a problem on outlook,

1. I open either email from the current folder

2. I jump to the content of the email by heading and move to the line "reply" and want to create a bookmark on that position

3. I press nvda j, down to bookmark and press right arrow, it only offer me one option "Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site All sites"


Thanks,

William



Tony Malykh 於 4/1/2022 7:07 寫道:
Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       


Best regards

--Tony



Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

William
 

It is interesting in Thunderbird, the domain is first part of the email address.


Rui Fontes 於 5/1/2022 20:11 寫道:

In Mozilla Thunderbird, at least here, it works...


Rui Fontes


Às 01:58 de 05/01/2022, Tony Malykh escreveu:

I think BrowserNav should work in Outlook, although I didn't test it thoroughly.

First you need to define a site. The problem here is that in browsers sites are deduced from URL, and there is no URL in Outlook. In fact when I try to query URL it returns an empty string. So we need to match an empty string. Somehow I made a condition that prohibits empty string. So a quick workaround would be to use regular expression. So you may enter:

URL:

^$

Match Type: Regex match of URL

This would match all pages with empty URL, such as all pages in Outlook.

Then for this site you can create bookmarks.

One bug that I just found while trying this is that when you define a bookmark, setting it to "exact paragraph match" doesn't appear to work. So you'd need to set it to "Substring paragraph match" or regular expression if you know how to use them. I should fix this in the next release.

HTH


On 1/4/2022 2:22 AM, William wrote:

Hi Tony,

I have tried using the app on site like Youtube, I was able to generate a bookmark on the play pause button.

But I have came across a problem on outlook,

1. I open either email from the current folder

2. I jump to the content of the email by heading and move to the line "reply" and want to create a bookmark on that position

3. I press nvda j, down to bookmark and press right arrow, it only offer me one option "Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site All sites"


Thanks,

William



Tony Malykh 於 4/1/2022 7:07 寫道:
Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       


Best regards

--Tony



Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Rui Fontes
 

In Mozilla Thunderbird, at least here, it works...


Rui Fontes


Às 01:58 de 05/01/2022, Tony Malykh escreveu:

I think BrowserNav should work in Outlook, although I didn't test it thoroughly.

First you need to define a site. The problem here is that in browsers sites are deduced from URL, and there is no URL in Outlook. In fact when I try to query URL it returns an empty string. So we need to match an empty string. Somehow I made a condition that prohibits empty string. So a quick workaround would be to use regular expression. So you may enter:

URL:

^$

Match Type: Regex match of URL

This would match all pages with empty URL, such as all pages in Outlook.

Then for this site you can create bookmarks.

One bug that I just found while trying this is that when you define a bookmark, setting it to "exact paragraph match" doesn't appear to work. So you'd need to set it to "Substring paragraph match" or regular expression if you know how to use them. I should fix this in the next release.

HTH


On 1/4/2022 2:22 AM, William wrote:

Hi Tony,

I have tried using the app on site like Youtube, I was able to generate a bookmark on the play pause button.

But I have came across a problem on outlook,

1. I open either email from the current folder

2. I jump to the content of the email by heading and move to the line "reply" and want to create a bookmark on that position

3. I press nvda j, down to bookmark and press right arrow, it only offer me one option "Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site All sites"


Thanks,

William



Tony Malykh 於 4/1/2022 7:07 寫道:
Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       


Best regards

--Tony



Re: Questions about StationPlaylist Add-On

 

Hi,

IMPORTANT: as you read what I wrote, keep in mind that I am no longer maintaining StationPlaylist add-on (for now).

What is the version of Studio you are using? If you are using Studio 6, please DO NOT use add-on 21.11 - please use add-on 22.01 which provides improved (albeit limited) support for Studio 6. At the moment StationPlaylist add-on 22.01 is not available from community add-ons website, but I can assure you that this release was queued for distribution on community add-ons website not long ago. If you are using Studio 5.x, I may need to look into it if and only if the NVDA community does not find someone who will maintain StationPlaylist add-on in several months (I say this so whoever decides to maintain the add-on can step up and resolve this for you before I revisit this issue).

Regarding announcing remaining time for carts, it won't be possible to assign Control+Alt+T command since carts can be played on top of the track you are playing (if I remember correctly). It is indeed possible to obtain the remaining time for the playing cart and add a command to announce this. My hope is that whoever decides to maintain StationPlaylist add-on would implement this feature request, and as I said above, if no-one volunteers to step up in several months, I will do it but as a last resort.

As for NVDA not announcing the name of the assigned cart in Cart Explorer, I need a debug log from you (write to me privately please) no later than January 10, 2022 so I can determine what's going on.

Cheers,

Joseph


Questions about StationPlaylist Add-On

mathieu.armand3@...
 

Hello,

I have installed the most recent version of the StationPlaylist add-on (21.11) that I am discovering and despite looking at the documentation, I still have a few questions.

First, regarding the start and end of track alarms: I am unable to use this feature which would be very useful to me. In the spl parameters, the boxes notify when end of track is near and notify when end of intro is near are both checked, and for both the seconds are set to 5. The notification list box for l alarm is on beep and message but even if I choose one or the other individually it still doesn't work. Note that I have set the microphone alarms to 0 (disable). Also be aware that the files I tried to use this feature with had intro and outro values ​​added with the Track Tool. So I don't understand why I don't get any indication at the start and end of the track.

Second problem: I cannot use the cart explorer. As indicated in the documentation, in the Station Playlist studio window, I press the ALT + NVDA + 3 keys, the speech synthesis indicates to me that I have entered the cart explorer but when I press a key or a file has been programmed beforehand, I have the message cart not assigned.

Moreover, I also see another issue with the cart: sometimes after pressing a key and the file is finished playing, the screen reader says to me: (next creation, Monday, January 10, 2022) this same message read at the end of playlist creation. It is sometimes confusing to hear when I have to speak at the end of a bed, for example ...

Finally, I end this long post with a little suggestion for the module, which I think would be interesting to implement. If possible, I suggest that you add a shortcut that would indicate the remaining time of a file played in the cart. Something like the shortcut (CTRL + ALT + T) which tells us the remaining duration of a file played in the main player, except that this one would indicate the duration of the file played in the cart. What do you think ?

Thank you for taking the time to read me and sorry if any part of my post does not seem understandable to you, I do not speak English and I have to use translation software to translate this message.


Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Michael Micallef at FITA
 

Dear tony

 

Thanks for the below explanation but one thing I’m not sure how to go about it and this is How to define a website? Do I need to performa particular command?

Thank you

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss via groups.io
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Well technically a website is basically a page of links and other data that has all the information you use.

So thats everything from a search engine to youtube or something, to a blog to even ftp sites if they are viewed in a brouser over https which a lot are.

There are other types so maybe you need to be spaciffic about what sub catigry of site you mean is probably.

Even a forum is a site.

A url is a shortcut really or a link though that can be confused.

Website is quite generic as a word though.

I forgot the actual deffinition but it was really for the place the information you wanted out was stored back in the day where it was just a server with it on.

With everything on the cloud well who knows.

The net is a really old beast now.

 

 

On 5/01/2022 10:24 am, Tony Malykh wrote:

Thanks for feedback. I guess writing documentation is not one of my strengths :) But let me try again. Here are the steps.

First you need to define website. Site is identified by URL address or its part. For example for YouTube you would want to match any url from youtube.com domain. Best way to achieve this would be to go to any YouTube video and then press NVDA+J > Websites > Create new website for domain www.youtube.com. Optionally (but recommendedd) is to give this website a legible name - tab to Display Name edit box and type something that you can easily recognize, e.g. "YouTube". Press OK.

2. Then go to paragraph you would like to bookmark. Press NVDA+J > Bookmarks > Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site Youtube. Dialog window will open.

3. For QuickJump bookmark just  click OK. If oy you would like to configure a different kind of bookmark - you need to configure it in this window - please refer to  documentation for this.

LMK if you have any other questions!

--Tony

 

On 1/3/2022 11:37 PM, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Goodmorning,

 

I just download the nvda add-on called: BrowserNav v2.2 and installed but I didn’t manage to understand exactly how it works. I read the help file but I ffound it difficult to understand, I’m mostly interested in few steps how to create a bookmark on a website I understand this feature is similar to the one that jaws has to make web markers.

 

I sincerely appreciate if someone send me the steps how to create website bookmarks on website using the nvda.

 

Thanks,

Michael micallef

 

 

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Tony thanks for the amazing work, I need another year to learn about the new features:p

 

Rui Fontes 4/1/2022 8:16 寫道:

Hello!

 

I can help managing your add-ons, except on the current translation method...

I haven't yet figured how to deal with it...

 

I can't promiss I will act immediatly in all times, but I will try to do it as soon as possible...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 23:07 de 03/01/2022, Tony Malykh escreveu:

Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       

 

Best regards

--Tony

 


Re: punctuation has started reading when I don't want it

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nvda plus p (laptop mode) will cycle between punctuation modes. I'm not sure what the desktop equivalent is, but I hope that helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 5:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] punctuation has started reading when I don't want it

I don't know what key stroke I accidentally might have hit, but I am now hearing all kinds of unwanted punctuation read, things like "bar" or "dash" or whatever else in places where I don't want them. I didn't change anything in the nvda settings, so I can't imagine what might have happened, but it is driving me to distraction.


Mary


Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Tony Malykh
 

I think BrowserNav should work in Outlook, although I didn't test it thoroughly.

First you need to define a site. The problem here is that in browsers sites are deduced from URL, and there is no URL in Outlook. In fact when I try to query URL it returns an empty string. So we need to match an empty string. Somehow I made a condition that prohibits empty string. So a quick workaround would be to use regular expression. So you may enter:

URL:

^$

Match Type: Regex match of URL

This would match all pages with empty URL, such as all pages in Outlook.

Then for this site you can create bookmarks.

One bug that I just found while trying this is that when you define a bookmark, setting it to "exact paragraph match" doesn't appear to work. So you'd need to set it to "Substring paragraph match" or regular expression if you know how to use them. I should fix this in the next release.

HTH


On 1/4/2022 2:22 AM, William wrote:

Hi Tony,

I have tried using the app on site like Youtube, I was able to generate a bookmark on the play pause button.

But I have came across a problem on outlook,

1. I open either email from the current folder

2. I jump to the content of the email by heading and move to the line "reply" and want to create a bookmark on that position

3. I press nvda j, down to bookmark and press right arrow, it only offer me one option "Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site All sites"


Thanks,

William



Tony Malykh 於 4/1/2022 7:07 寫道:
Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

·       


Best regards

--Tony



Re: Tony's add-ons: updates and new features

Tony Malykh
 

In BrowserNav site refers to a way of telling which bookmarks belong where. For example, you might want to have a bookmark on a single specific URL, or on a whole domain, or on domain with all of its subdomains. Or you might want to have a fancy regular expression that defines the set of URLs where you wish to apply your bookmark. That set of all URLs is called "site" in BrowserNav. Maybe I shouldn't call this site to avoid confusion. Could you come up with a better name?

On 1/4/2022 3:47 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well technically a website is basically a page of links and other data that has all the information you use.

So thats everything from a search engine to youtube or something, to a blog to even ftp sites if they are viewed in a brouser over https which a lot are.

There are other types so maybe you need to be spaciffic about what sub catigry of site you mean is probably.

Even a forum is a site.

A url is a shortcut really or a link though that can be confused.

Website is quite generic as a word though.

I forgot the actual deffinition but it was really for the place the information you wanted out was stored back in the day where it was just a server with it on.

With everything on the cloud well who knows.

The net is a really old beast now.



On 5/01/2022 10:24 am, Tony Malykh wrote:

Thanks for feedback. I guess writing documentation is not one of my strengths :) But let me try again. Here are the steps.

First you need to define website. Site is identified by URL address or its part. For example for YouTube you would want to match any url from youtube.com domain. Best way to achieve this would be to go to any YouTube video and then press NVDA+J > Websites > Create new website for domain www.youtube.com. Optionally (but recommendedd) is to give this website a legible name - tab to Display Name edit box and type something that you can easily recognize, e.g. "YouTube". Press OK.

2. Then go to paragraph you would like to bookmark. Press NVDA+J > Bookmarks > Create new bookmark from current paragraph for site Youtube. Dialog window will open.

3. For QuickJump bookmark just  click OK. If oy you would like to configure a different kind of bookmark - you need to configure it in this window - please refer to  documentation for this.

LMK if you have any other questions!

--Tony


On 1/3/2022 11:37 PM, Michael Micallef at FITA wrote:

Goodmorning,

 

I just download the nvda add-on called: BrowserNav v2.2 and installed but I didn’t manage to understand exactly how it works. I read the help file but I ffound it difficult to understand, I’m mostly interested in few steps how to create a bookmark on a website I understand this feature is similar to the one that jaws has to make web markers.

 

I sincerely appreciate if someone send me the steps how to create website bookmarks on website using the nvda.

 

Thanks,

Michael micallef

 

 

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Tony thanks for the amazing work, I need another year to learn about the new features:p

 

Rui Fontes 4/1/2022 8:16 寫道:

Hello!

 

I can help managing your add-ons, except on the current translation method...

I haven't yet figured how to deal with it...

 

I can't promiss I will act immediatly in all times, but I will try to do it as soon as possible...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 23:07 de 03/01/2022, Tony Malykh escreveu:

Happy new year, everyone!

I present new features and improvements to my add-ons. This is a pretty long email, so I marked sections as level 1 and level 2 headings for ease of navigation. Any feedback and suggestions are welcome!

BrowserNav v2.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/latest/download/browsernav.nvda-addon

The most exciting new feature is support of bookmarks. You can now configure bookmarks and this simplifies navigation around websites that you frequently use. Bookmarks can be configured either for a specific URL or for the entire domain. Bookmark itself can be configured either as matching text on the page, or a regular expression. There are many more options to customize bookmarks, please refer to github page for a full list of options.

There are four types of bookmarks in BrowserNav:

QuickJump bookmarks

Once they are configured, you can find and jump to them by pressing either J or Shift+J in browse mode. BrowserNav comes with default configuration that you can use as an example of configuring bookmarks, and that example includes some QuickJump bookmarks for amazon.com: you can jump to “5 items in cart”, “Your Orders”, “4.5 out of 5 stars” – these are just examples of information that I often need to find on Amazon pages while shopping, but you can of course configure your own bookmarks.

SkipClutter bookmarks

These are not really bookmarks, but rather you can configure BrowserNav to skip certain text while navigating either by paragraph (with Control+Up/Down) or by line (with Up/Down). Most common example of this is skipping blank lines – and this one is included in the default configuration. Other examples can include skipping timestamps or frequently repeated elements on the webpage (think of repeating buttons on Facebook website: Reply, React, Like, …). SkipClutter mode can be turned off temporarily when you do want to access those elements by pressing / or Control+/.

QuickClick bookmarks

These are similar to QuickJump bookmarks, but instead of jumping to bookmark, you can click buttons or links without moving your cursor. For example, on youtube.com you might want to have an easy way to play/pause video. In fact this QuickClick bookmark is included in the default configuration for reference. So, you just need to press Alt+J to click all QuickClick bookmarks on the page. Another example of where I find QuickClick especially useful is expanding collapsed elements of the page, e.g. on Facebook you might want to automatically expand links “See more”, “View 5 more comments”, etc.

Hierarchical bookmarks

Many websites (e.g., reddit, hacker news) show user comments as a tree where each successive level of reply is indented more and more to the right. Hierarchical bookmarks is the most convenient way to browse such comment trees for screenreader users. BrowserNav can announce the level of current comment, or alternatively, you can jump to next/previous comment of a given level, similar to built-in function of jumping to heading of given level. You just need to capture some element of a comment in a bookmark (such as upvote or downvote buttons) and BrowserNav will automatically compute levels based on horizontal offset of each match. I have included sample configuration for hacker news and old reddit. You can try it yourself once you have BrowserNav v2.2 installed:

·       Old reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/rt91z6/exchange_2019_antimalware_bad_update/

·       Hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29756714

Keystrokes:

·       Alt+` or Alt+Shift+`: jump to next/previous comment and announce its level.

·       Alt+1 or Alt+Shift+1: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 1.

·       Alt+2 or Alt+Shift+2: jumpt to next/previous comment at level 2.

·       Alt+number or Alt+Shift+number: jumpt to next/previous comment at corresponding level.

Please note that in both reddit and hacker news the bookmark also matches the original post. As a result, on reddit original post corresponds to level 2, so all the comments have levels 1,3,4,5 …. Skipping level 2.

Configuring websites and bookmarks

Press NVDA+J to open BrowserNav popup menu. Here you can configure websites and bookmarks. For ease of use I added options to create a new entry for current website, and create a new bookmark from current paragraph.

All websites and bookmarks can also be configured via NVDA > Preferences > Settings dialog.

Website options

There are a few options that can be configured on per website level:

·       Block focus events: some websites misuse focus events: e.g. they focus some elements when trying to scroll, thus making the website hard or impossible to use for screenreader users. You can disable handling of focus events for such websites. In this case focus events will be ignored and your cursor will not jump around.

·       Block live region announcements. Similarly, some websites misuse live regions. BrowserNav allows to selectively block them.

·       Auto QuickClick. Once you configured QuickClick bookmarks on  a website, you can tell BrowserNav to click those bookmarks automatically when website is fully loaded.

Performance improvements

Vertical navigation (via NVDA+Alt+Up/Down commands) now works much faster in Chromium-based browsers and Firefox.

Recap of other BrowserNav functions

·       Vertical navigation: allows to find objects on a web page that are directly underneath by pressing NVDA+Alt+Down/Up.

·       Navigation by font size: allows to find text written in the same font size or font style.

·       More QuickNav commands: jump to next menu(Z), tab(Y), dialog(P), etc.

Notes

·       I am aware of Placemarkers add-on existence. BrowserNav bookmarks is however different in many ways: more flexible website definition, more flexible bookmark definition, more functionality around different types of bookmarks. I know NVDA community is typically wary of add-ons that are similar in functionality, but I didn’t have any intention to compete against PlaceMarkers. The function of regular expression search was in BrowserNav since many years ago and developing proper bookmarks was a natural extension of it. It would also be totally impractical for me to upgrade Placemarkers add-on, since the changes that I implemented would require rewriting probably 90% of Placemarkers, so this is not justified.

·       I can split off bookmarks into a separate add-on if there is enough interest. As long as community doesn’t mind given concerns of being too similar to Placemarks add-on.

Tony’s Enhancements v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/latest/download/tonysEnhancements.nvda-addon

This add-on is a hodgepodge of different NVDA improvements and this time I added a few interesting ones.

Sound split

Triggered by pressing NVDA+Alt+S you can enable sound split: when using stereo headphones this would make all NVDA sounds to go to right channel, while all application sounds will go to left channel (or vice versa). This could be handy if you have to attend long and boring meetings over VC. Additionally you can adjust NVDA volume and applications volume separately via NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown and NVDA+Alt+PageUp/PageDown keystrokes.

Copying tables

Many people on NVDA mailing list complained that there was no good way in NVDA to copy a table from a webpage. Now there is a way! Press NVDA+Alt+T while on a table and you’ll be presented with a few options: you can either copy the whole table, or current row or column. The table will be copied with preserving formatting information about its cells, so that you can paste it into Microsoft Word or any other rich text editor, and it will still appear as a table.

Experimental mouse click and mouse scroll scripts

I noticed that existing NVDA mouse click scripts don’t always work. In particular I found cases when NVDA+NumPadDivide keystroke doesn’t bring mouse cursor over the link that I would like to click. These scripts are my attempt to solve this. The feature is experimental, in the sense that there are still cases where it doesn’t work as expected. Yet it already can be very useful in some cases, so I decided to still include it in the release. Keystrokes:

·       NVDA+NumPadDivide/NumPadMultiply: moves mouse pointer to current object, clicks left/right mouse button, then moves mouse pointer back to where it was. Additionally it tries to check if there are any other windows on the way (e.g. topmost windows) and tries to get them out of the way.

·       Alt+NumPadPlus/NumPadMinus: Move mouse pointer over current object and scroll up/down. This can be useful to load more content in infinite scroll websites.

·       Alt+NumPadDelete: move mouse pointer to top left corner of the screen. This can be useful for websites that make excessive use of mouse hover information to show popup windows.

Recap of other functions of Tony’s enhancements

·       Enhanced table navigation commands, such as jump to first/last row/column.

·       Automatic language switching based on Unicode character set.

·       QuickSearch – similar to BrowserNav QuickJump bookmark, but works in text editors.

·       Dynamic keystrokes: allows to configure announcing current line after certain keystrokes.

·       Showing and hiding any application windows.

·       Detecting insert/overwrite mode in text editors to prevent accidentally overwriting text.

·       Adjusting system priority of NVDA process for better responsiveness.

Bluetooth Audio v1.4

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon

Bluetooth audio fixes quality of audio by playing either silence or soft white noise as long as NVDA is active. Many Bluetooth headphones and speakers enter standby mode after a few seconds of inactivity. Then when NVDA speaks next utterance, the first word or two might be lost. Bluetooth Audio prevents these devices from entering standby mode by keeping audio stream open and constantly playing some sound. In fact, Bluetooth audio has been reported to improve audio quality on other types of audio devices: RF wireless headphones and even some wired speakers. It can also get rid of crackling noise on some devices.

The previous version of Bluetooth Audio could only play silence. As a result, it was hard to tell whether it is working or not. In fact, it seems that it wasn’t working, or at least not always working – one of NVDA updates in 2020 seems to have broken it, and even I didn’t catch it. To avoid this in the future I added an option to play soft white noise instead of silence, so that you can hear when Bluetooth audio is working. Another feature I added is dynamically changing output device when NVDA configuration changes – previously that required a restart.

IndentNav v1.13

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/latest/download/IndentNav.nvda-addon

IndentNav is primarily designed for software developers, and it allows better navigation around indented source code files in text editors. This new version works much faster, especially in VSCode. Here are some keystrokes to try (please read github page for a complete list):

·       NVDA+Alt+Up/Down: jump to next/previous line with the same indentation level within current block.

·       NVDA+Alt+Left/Right: jump to parent/first child line, where parent and child are defined as line with lesser/greater indentation level.

·       NVDA+Control+I: select current block (e.g. function).

·       NVDA+V: indent-paste, that is paste with adjusting indentation level of clipboard content to match current line.

Phonetic punctuation v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-phonetic-punctuation/releases/latest/download/phoneticPunctuation.nvda-addon

Phonetic punctuation allows to replace punctuation marks with auditory icons (earcons). In general, it allows to replace any regular expression configured substring with an auditory icon, which can be great for getting rid of timestamps and other frequently repeated fragments. It also allows to change prosody parameters for parts of speech, but only a few synthesizers support this. This new version allows to adjust volume of each individual auditory icon and has several bugfixes.

WordNav v1.7

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon

WordNav provides more advanced scripts to navigate by word. It replaces built in Control+Left/Right keystrokes with custom scripts. It makes behavior of these keystrokes consistent across all applications and adds multiple options on its behavior.

In this last version I spent quite some time to work around Google Chrome bug in its IAccessible implementation, but in the end I made it to work correctly in Chrome.

SentenceNav v2.12

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/latest/download/SentenceNav.nvda-addon

SentenceNav allows to navigate by sentence via Alt+Up/Down keystrokes. This new version includes some bugfixes.

TextNav v1.6

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-text-nav/releases/latest/download/textnav.nvda-addon

TextNav allows you to find the beginning of article, that is readable text written in complete sentences, on any webpage. You can automatically skip most of the clutter, such as menus, images, metadata and ads on webpages. Works by pressing Alt+Shift+Down/Up keys. This latest version only updates compatibility flag.

Console toolkit v1.2

·       Website: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·       Download: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon

This add-on provides some additional features for console application, such as Windows command prompt and Windows Terminal. This new version adds better support for Putty. Here are some features:

·       Control+V can now be used for pasting.

·       Speech becomes more real-time in a console that actively prints new messages.

·       You can edit current command by pressing NVDA+e in an accessible window.

Notes

·       Versions have not been updated on the official NVDA add-ons website yet. I sent a pull request, and it is subject to approval by NVAccess. Until then, feel free to download latest versions using links I provided above.

·       All the add-ons were tested with NVDA alpha build 24399. Some compatibility issues have been fixed, however, it is still possible that something will change and compatibility will break again by the time NVDA 2022 is released. The author however has very limited time to work on add-ons, in fact the only time of year when I have time to maintain my add-ons is the winter break around Christmas and New Year. So, I release my add-ons as is. I might try to find some time to fix compatibility mid-year, but I cannot commit to it. Which brings me to my second point:

·       Volunteers needed. I currently have 9 add-ons and they require some maintenance and as my life gets more and more busy every year, I am struggling to find time for that, while users ask for compatibility, translations, etc. I don’t want to let my users down. So, I’m looking for someone who is familiar with add-on development process to help me with that. Please contact me off-list if you’re interested. Typical maintenance tasks are: dealing with compatibility flags and releases, dealing with translations, optionally fixing bugs.

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Best regards

--Tony

 


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I suspected that this was really more of a software-develoment-level sort of question, but I wanted to allow those who would know the details to respond and confirm that, and they have.

The mailing list for discussion of Liblouis and Liblousxml is on Freelists.org, here:  Discussion of liblouis and liblouisxml

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