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Re: backing up NVDA settings

 

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 12:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Hopefully this procedure will remain the same throughout nvda versions.
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The use of the individual user's %AppData% folder as the default location for "all things NVDA related to that user" has been the same for as long as I've been dealing with NVDA, so I don't expect it to change unless some really radical rewrite were to take place.
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Re: Apology to list members

 

Must be nice not knowing you have it though.

I have managed to avoid it though with omicron round the corner, and several festivals on the horizon, even though our alert system allows it I am going to have to seriously concidder going to any of them when that happens.

I don't want to be stuck in the middle.

And whats worse is that at least locally you know what happens if you get it.

Its got a huge guilt spring attached to it which I don't like at all.

You and your friends isolate or go to a government place to do that.

You will cause your country or town to lock down.

You will be hated online.

Of course you could just not tell and still be damned to burn in hell.

Not sure what is worse.

Coming out sounds like a really bad idea, so avoiding getting it even if you need to stay out of it as much as you can is best.

Hopefully we can get rid of masks soon, because right now going out to say a shop is not for leasure, I need a purpose, or to think to go out.

Thats not something I like to think of doing especially since in place of travel, shopping malls are my escape from life.

Being about home is fine, but I spend at least 50% of my time in front of a desk without actually doing anything on social media.

I'd hate to know how much time people spend with all that up and a smartphone to boot because I don't even have this and I still spend time unless of course I am working.

On 18/01/2022 6:47 am, Mani Iyer via groups.io wrote:
My sister in India is currently going through it and because she has an intellectual disability she doesn’t know she has it. Sigh…

Mani


On Jan 16, 2022, at 8:59 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Yeah, one of my cousins that works on private boats as a contracter in
europe has omicron.
She and just about everyone has now lost their job because they got covid.
They have to work till they get replacements.
But with our isolation centres the way they are right now with space
issues and the fact if you are sick and all the restrictions she is
stuck out there, with no cash, and because of no job no visa either.
Technically the company who hired the people is supposed to get them
home but who knows if they actually will honor this.
She has her own issues with people to, but was in a bad patch last
year having been robbed while away and losing most everything.
No work, means no cash though and no cash means no anything.
Family are trying to send cash but money laundering and such well its a problem.
Touch wood I have not got sick though being an alergy sufferer there
is always the case I may have covid daily because I can sneeze any
time without medication and even with.
So yeah, its going about on a continuous level.
So all we can do is get the best protection we can and hold on to our
hats for dear life.


On 17/01/2022, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi,



I also hope and pray you have a speedy recovery. My brother-in-law has it
now.



Rosemarie





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From: Armando Vias
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apology to list members



I hope that you have a speedy recovery as well. I also have it, but
hopefully it will get better sometime this week.



Armando L. Vias

Main Telephone: (830) 542-2220

Email: armando@...

Website: https://armandovias.com



On Jan 16, 2022, at 7:26 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

You have my sincerest wishes for a speedy and full recovery. My brother
had it early on, and he said, "You really don't want to get Covid!"
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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for
common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these
ideals are.

~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)







Re: backing up NVDA settings

 

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 12:10 PM, Chris wrote:

Your best option in the first place would be to uncheck the option to save configuration on exit!

That way any accidental setting change would not be saved unless of course you save the configuration manually

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I am not trying to argue your central point, which is entirely valid, but I can say that I have seen, on more than one occasion, where those who've turned automatic save off wail mightily when hours of settings tweaks end up not being saved because they forgot to save them.

In the end, it is critical that you (the generic you), know and understand precisely how your NVDA on your machine(s) is configured.  It's the only way you can know what's necessary to either make sure that what you're doing is going to have the result you expect.
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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: backing up NVDA settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

Just to add I’m probably going to write a batch file to at least start the xcopy process. This is actually good for when I know I have settings right and then I can use the reverse xcopy command to, well, undo my fat finger changes.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] backing up NVDA settings

 

Don,

See archive message  for the steps to back up the NVDA settings folder.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: backing up NVDA settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh squeak! Thanks! I’ll also be taking a look. Hopefully this procedure will remain the same throughout nvda versions.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 9:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] backing up NVDA settings

 

Don,

See archive message  for the steps to back up the NVDA settings folder.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: backing up NVDA settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

Lol. Not just the dummies but the ones who I think the say is fat finger, or in my case butter fingers stuff. I thought ther was an ini or folder somewhere in %appdata% but I can't recall now.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] backing up NVDA settings

Running latest NVDA on latest Win10 system. Totally my fault I hit some unknown key combinations that messed up my NVDA settings. Then I did the totally wrong thing and restarted NVDA which caused my messed up settings to be saved. Is there a file or folder that can be backed up to save your NVDA settings? This would save dummies like from me from losing the good settings.
Thanks


Re: Can't uninstall NVDA 2021.2 from Windows 10 21h1

 

George,

           Did this issue ever reach the desired resolution?
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Apology to list members

Mani Iyer
 

My sister in India is currently going through it and because she has an intellectual disability she doesn’t know she has it. Sigh…

Mani

On Jan 16, 2022, at 8:59 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Yeah, one of my cousins that works on private boats as a contracter in
europe has omicron.
She and just about everyone has now lost their job because they got covid.
They have to work till they get replacements.
But with our isolation centres the way they are right now with space
issues and the fact if you are sick and all the restrictions she is
stuck out there, with no cash, and because of no job no visa either.
Technically the company who hired the people is supposed to get them
home but who knows if they actually will honor this.
She has her own issues with people to, but was in a bad patch last
year having been robbed while away and losing most everything.
No work, means no cash though and no cash means no anything.
Family are trying to send cash but money laundering and such well its a problem.
Touch wood I have not got sick though being an alergy sufferer there
is always the case I may have covid daily because I can sneeze any
time without medication and even with.
So yeah, its going about on a continuous level.
So all we can do is get the best protection we can and hold on to our
hats for dear life.


On 17/01/2022, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi,



I also hope and pray you have a speedy recovery. My brother-in-law has it
now.



Rosemarie





Sent from Mail for Windows



From: Armando Vias
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apology to list members



I hope that you have a speedy recovery as well. I also have it, but
hopefully it will get better sometime this week.



Armando L. Vias

Main Telephone: (830) 542-2220

Email: armando@...

Website: https://armandovias.com



On Jan 16, 2022, at 7:26 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

You have my sincerest wishes for a speedy and full recovery. My brother
had it early on, and he said, "You really don't want to get Covid!"
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for
common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these
ideals are.

~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)







Re: backing up NVDA settings

Gene
 
Edited

If you uncheck that option you won't accidentally save settings except if you revert to factory  settings, for some reason, then shut down NVDA or shut down Windows or the computer spontaneously restarts.  It is still possible to accidentally save settings when you revert to factory defaults.  To avoid saving settings on shutdown, you need to return to the saved configuration with NVDA + CTRL + R before doing something that closes NVDA. 

 

Gene

On 1/17/2022 11:10 AM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Your best option in the first place would be to uncheck the option to save configuration on exit!

That way any accidental setting change would not be saved unless of course you save the configuration manually

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 17 January 2022 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] backing up NVDA settings

 

Running latest NVDA on latest Win10 system.  Totally my fault I hit some

unknown key combinations that messed up my NVDA settings.  Then I did

the totally wrong thing and restarted NVDA which caused my messed up

settings to be saved.  Is there a file or folder that can be backed up

to save your NVDA settings?  This would save dummies like from me from

losing the good settings.

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 


Re: backing up NVDA settings

Chris
 

Your best option in the first place would be to uncheck the option to save configuration on exit!

That way any accidental setting change would not be saved unless of course you save the configuration manually

 

From: Don H
Sent: 17 January 2022 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] backing up NVDA settings

 

Running latest NVDA on latest Win10 system.  Totally my fault I hit some

unknown key combinations that messed up my NVDA settings.  Then I did

the totally wrong thing and restarted NVDA which caused my messed up

settings to be saved.  Is there a file or folder that can be backed up

to save your NVDA settings?  This would save dummies like from me from

losing the good settings.

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 


Re: backing up NVDA settings

 

Don,

See archive message  for the steps to back up the NVDA settings folder.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: backing up NVDA settings

 

I'm pretty sure that there is either a file, or folder, that can be copied off somewhere if one so desires, but I'll let someone else fill in that part.

Given the recent conversation about this very behavior, which is that NVDA saves all settings changed upon exit or restart, it's vital that folks know about two things:

1.  The NVDA- + Ctrl + R command that restores your settings to whatever they were when you first fired up NVDA provided you, yourself, didn't manually save them somewhere along the way. if you did save them somewhere along the way, then they will revert to that last save point. If you hit it 3 times in rapid succession it reverts to NVDA factory defaults.

2.  That you can turn the "Save on exit or restart," behavior off in settings, if you so choose, and use NVDA + CTRL + C to save your changes manually instead.  Even if automatic save is on, if you want to save settings you've already changed, because you know that those suit you, this is the command that does this.  All settings changed afterward will remain unsaved until "a saving event" occurs, be that an automatic save on exit or a manual invocation of the NVDA + CTRL + C command.

There is just no way that any given default setting is going to make everyone happy.  You, the generic you, need to understand what the NVDA default behavior is (even were that to change) with regard to how and when settings changes are permanently saved and "behave accordingly" based on what you have elected to keep or change about the settings change saving behavior.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


backing up NVDA settings

Don H
 

Running latest NVDA on latest Win10 system. Totally my fault I hit some unknown key combinations that messed up my NVDA settings. Then I did the totally wrong thing and restarted NVDA which caused my messed up settings to be saved. Is there a file or folder that can be backed up to save your NVDA settings? This would save dummies like from me from losing the good settings.
Thanks


Re: Apology to list members

Luke Robinett
 

I have no idea what behaviors you are referring to LOL but I do hope you recover soon. Seems like almost everybody I know is getting Covid lately. Take care.

On Jan 16, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I want to apologize to the list for breaking the list rules. My continuing recovery from Covid has messed up my judgement.





Re: NVDA add-on CloudVision

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh, interesting. Has this been submitted for review for the nvda official site in case someone wants to use it? Also how secure is the AI in terms of describing images just in case anyone needs to know that information.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of alexey
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-on CloudVision

Describes images, for example, a 23-year-old girl with long blond hair, reads texts from photos and recognizes QR codes.
There is a translation of the recognized text into another language

There is also a bot in Telegram t.me/visiontest1bot


Re: NVDA add-on CloudVision

Sarah k Alawami
 

Seems like it sort of does the same thing windows OCR would do. I used this add on, or a similar one years ago before windows OCR existed.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Weakland
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA add-on CloudVision


so what does this clud vision thing do

On 1/17/2022 8:46 AM, harshad solanki wrote:
thanks alexey, i got it.

On 17/01/2022, alexey <aleks-samos@...> wrote:
https://github.com/alekssamos/cloudvision/releases/download/v3.0.0.0/
CloudVision-3.0.0.0.nvda-addon






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Locating nvdaControllerClient32.dll

Felix G.
 

Hello list,
I'm trying to test something for which I require a build of
nvdaControllerClient32.dll. Can this still be downloaded somewhere?
All the best,
Felix


Re: NVDA add-on CloudVision

alexey
 

Describes images, for example, a 23-year-old girl with long blond hair,
reads texts from photos
and recognizes QR codes.
There is a translation of the recognized text into another language

There is also a bot in Telegram t.me/visiontest1bot


Re: Spellcheck in Excel and PowerPoint

David Kingsbury
 

Quentin,
Thanks, very useful.
David


Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 cursor doesn't move in Google product edit fields

Gene
 

Also, I have a number of different versions of NVDA and installers on my machine.  I realized that I hadn't tested with the latest version previously.  It was 2021.1 beta that I tested with previously.  I tested today with both 2021.3.  and 2021.1 beta.  I had the problem with both versions.  that may not matter but perhaps it does.


I just tried testing with an older version and I had the same problem.  I tested with 2020.1beta1.


Since I  don't use Google much nor Edge, I wonder if Google has updated since my first test.  Have those reporting different results checked their version numbers?  If you do so, by going into About, the browser will begin looking for updates and will update if it hasn't.  As far as I know, updating is supposed to be automatic, but it appears to me that, at least at times, Chrome-based browsers may not automatically update and that you need to open the about dialog for them to do so.  Making sure of browser version numbers may help determine why people are reporting different results.


I don't think this matters, but I'm using Windows 7.


Gene

On 1/17/2022 8:39 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

As I recall, I reported two or three days ago that I didn't have the problem in Chrome nor in Edge.  I'm not sure why, but I tested again now with Chrome and the problem is there.  I may test Edge but I haven't yet.


However, tabbing away from the field and returning is not the only way to have text be read when you move the cursor.  Opening the menus and closing them does so as well.  It isn't how you leave the field, its that you leave the field that matters.


Gene

On 1/17/2022 8:17 AM, Michael Chopra wrote:
Hi. I have also noticed this as well and have had to use the work around of tabbing away then coming back to it in order to navigate properly. From what I can figure out, NVDA seems to be selecting the text for some reason when you go back into the edit field. I will also add that I only started noticing this at least for me and others, since version 2021.3.1.
Thanks.
From Michael.

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