Hi,

This is a function, or problem with, certain synthesisers.

For example, if you use CodeFactory's NVDA Vocalizer add-on, and turn off all the capital options, it will still say Capital, because NVDA doesn't intercept the interpretation of the add-on itself.

JAWS has a feature called Controlled By Synthesiser, which you can switch off. If you do, JAWS does all the processing. Maybe NVDA needs something like this. Controlled By Synthesiser can be seen in punctuation settings I believe.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H

Sent: 18 January 2022 15:28

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I have both beep and say cap unchecked under speech settings and NVDA still says capital before a capital letter and when typing a capital letter.

On 1/18/2022 7:53 AM, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

> Hi,

> if you mean while typing, then yes.

> in the voice settings, you can find:

> Say cap before capitals  check box  not checked  Alt+c you can check

> it or use the beep option which is right after the cap option.

> good luck.

> 

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:47 PM Don H <lmddh50@...

> <mailto:lmddh50@...>> wrote:

> 

>     Is there a setting in NVDA that causes the word capital to be spoken on

>     capital letters?

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the
Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in
anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not
getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or
11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but
can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue
with the program.

Hi,

This is a function, or problem with, certain synthesisers.

For example, if you use CodeFactory's NVDA Vocalizer add-on, and turn off all the capital options, it will still say Capital, because NVDA doesn't intercept the interpretation of the add-on itself.

JAWS has a feature called Controlled By Synthesiser, which you can switch off. If you do, JAWS does all the processing. Maybe NVDA needs something like this. Controlled By Synthesiser can be seen in punctuation settings I believe.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 18 January 2022 15:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I have both beep and say cap unchecked under speech settings and NVDA still says capital before a capital letter and when typing a capital letter.

On 1/18/2022 7:53 AM, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,
if you mean while typing, then yes.
in the voice settings, you can find:
Say cap before capitals check box not checked Alt+c you can check
it or use the beep option which is right after the cap option.
good luck.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:47 PM Don H <lmddh50@...
<mailto:lmddh50@...>> wrote:

Is there a setting in NVDA that causes the word capital to be spoken on
capital letters?

I should had I’m using eloquence version 1.11.0 according to its about dialogue so I assume I’m up to date. I got it from the AtGuys website. If this setting is in a latter version of the add on, let me know and I’ll try and find it on code factory’s website.

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.

So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.

I actually am looking for that box but I don’t see it in the eloquence settings. Is it in that page or is it in nvda’s settings?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

 

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.

So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.

So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.

So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.

I wrote an add-on exactly for this case:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements
One of its functions is language map, which by default includes English and Russian IIRC. So it will force your synthesizer to switch languages whenever it sees text writte in Latin/Cyrillic. In theory it should work with any synth, but some synthesizers, or rather their NVDA drivers don't support some functionality.
I can confirm that it works well in Microsoft Speech API, Windows OneCore Voices and espeak. Used to work with RHVoice a couple of years ago but I haven't tested since then. And yeah, I tested specifically on Russian/English pair.
HTH
--Tony
On 1/17/2022 4:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

This might be on the border of inappropriate, but here goes:


I have a Russian voice that I purchased some time ago from a 3rd party vendor, and it works with NVDA. However, there is one really serious problem with it. If you are on a page with mixed English and Cyrillic, the Russian voice really falls apart. Rather than just reading the English in a Russian accent, which is what happens on an iPhone, for instance, my speech synthesizer from the Ivona company pronounces the English in some way that is really quite impossible to understand. So I'm wondering if there is anybody on here who speaks Russian and has had occasion to download and use either of the MS voices for Windows 10. If these voices act like the one I already have, then there is no point in going there. But if they don't mangle the English because they use pronunciation rules, perhaps because the synth is from Poland, where they use the Latin alphabet and have their own phonetic rules, then I'm going to go through the process of installing the voices and hope for decent results.


Mary

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.

So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.
So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.

Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the
Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in
anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not
getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or
11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but
can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue
with the program.

Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or 11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue with the program.

On Jan 18, 2022, at 18:17, Kelly, Kathleen <KellyK@...> wrote:

I was not impressed by Canvas -- it appeared to me that a lot of it was not accessible. The calendar was not discoverable, etc. My instructors also did not make a lot of effort to upload information into Canvas in an accessible manner...Kate

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigating blackboard with NVDA

 

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 would also like to know what if any accessibility there is to blackboard, I do know that canvas is totally accessible though.

On 1/18/2022 1:10 PM, Kenny Cheung wrote:

The one the disability office gave me I think was three years old.

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On Jan 18, 2022, at 12:25, Kelly, Kathleen <KellyK@...> wrote:

Hi, I would be interested in this information, as well. Thanks, Kate

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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:15 AM
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Subject: [nvda] Navigating blackboard with NVDA

 

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Hi,

I’m going to be using blackboard for school, and I was wondering if theirs an updated tutorial on how to use it with NVDA? The one the disability office gave me is a bit old.

https://youtu.be/x6h9lOCGo8U

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