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Re: no settings pannel for nvda-tonys-enhancements (was: Re: [nvda] Ms Russian Voices and NVDA)

Tony Malykh
 

NVDA Menu > Preferences > Settings > Tony's enhancements  settings > Edit language map

On 1/18/2022 6:13 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
I installed the nvda-tonys-enhancements add-on. But I didn't find the settings dialog anywhere. I checked the log, and I didn't find any related errors. The settings dialog of the sentenceNav is available without problems. Help is appreciated.

Regards,   Martin.

On 2022-01-19 05:36, Tony Malykh via groups.io wrote:
I wrote an add-on exactly for this case:

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

One of its functions is language map, which by default includes English and Russian IIRC. So it will force your synthesizer to switch languages whenever it sees text writte in Latin/Cyrillic. In theory it should work with any synth, but some synthesizers, or rather their NVDA drivers don't support some functionality.

I can confirm that it works well in Microsoft Speech API, Windows OneCore Voices and espeak. Used to work with RHVoice a couple of years ago but I haven't tested since then. And yeah, I tested specifically on Russian/English pair.

HTH

--Tony


On 1/17/2022 4:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
This might be on the border of inappropriate, but here goes:


I have a Russian voice that I purchased some time ago from a 3rd party vendor, and it works with NVDA. However, there is one really serious problem with it. If you are on a page with mixed English and Cyrillic, the Russian voice really falls apart. Rather than just reading the English in a Russian accent, which is what happens on an iPhone, for instance, my speech synthesizer from the Ivona company pronounces the English in some way that is really quite impossible to understand. So I'm wondering if there is anybody on here who speaks Russian and has had occasion to download and use either of the MS voices for Windows 10. If these voices act like the one I already have, then there is no point in going there. But if they don't mangle the English because they use pronunciation rules, perhaps because the synth is from Poland, where they use the Latin alphabet and have their own phonetic rules, then I'm going to go through the process of installing the voices and hope for decent results.


Mary



Re: Keystroke for Reading Individual Letters

 

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 02:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Although most laptops do not have a physical numpad
-
It's funny, but if ever a piece of documentation needed to be updated, this little snippet would be it.  I haven't seen a 15-inch or larger laptop not come with a full-sized keyboard including a number pad in some time.  And those are the units that predominate the market, whether consumer grade or business class.

Netbooks are a different thing, but they're also not designed for use for too terribly much beyond using internet functions like email and web browsing.
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Re: Keystroke for Reading Individual Letters

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi David


The following might help from the user manual. I knew I had seen it some where about if you did not have a numeric keypad on your pc.

Note the part with the function key.


The lower the grid is on the main keyboard should be the characters previous, the letter you are on and the next.



Not sure how it is done but 7 could be previous line, 8 is current and 9 is next.

u could be previous word, I could be current word, and O could be next word,

j could be previous character, kcould be current character and l could be next.

Best bet have a play while holding down the function key. I used to have a netbook like that.


Gene nz




4.2.2. Keyboard Layouts
NVDA currently comes with two sets of key commands (known as keyboard layouts): the desktop layout and the laptop layout. By default, NVDA is set to use the Desktop layout, though you can switch to the Laptop layout in the Keyboard category of the NVDA Settings dialog, found under Preferences in the NVDA menu.
The Desktop layout makes heavy use of the numpad (with Num Lock off). Although most laptops do not have a physical numpad, some laptops can emulate one by holding down the FN key and pressing letters and numbers on the right-hand side of the keyboard (7, 8, 9, u, i, o, j, k, l, etc.). If your laptop cannot do this or does not allow you to turn Num Lock off, you may want to switch to the Laptop layout instead.



On 20/01/2022 2:56 am, David Kingsbury wrote:

Hi all,

I know you can press Insert and 5 twice on the num pad to hear words spelled out. What is the equivalent for somebody who does not have a num pad?

Thanks,

David

 


Re: Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, forgot about that one. I don't tend to use that, although I can see where it can be useful. That interface is nice.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Windows Explorer as well.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: January 19, 2022 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

This is a Swiss army knife of apps actually, it supports github, mastodon, twitter, telegram, podcasts, and something else. I can't remember what it is but I quite like it, Oh and now it supports home kit integration

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Wonder why Blindie apps have such stupid names?

I was going to suggest QCast, and it has a more sensible name as well. 😊

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 19 January 2022 00:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

You can use tweesecake. http://tweesecake.app This is a brand new client that is being developed.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Altmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

I use QCast with windows 10.

On 01/18/2022 6:12 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the
Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in
anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not
getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or
11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but
can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue
with the program.


Re: Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Chris Smart
 

Windows Explorer as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: January 19, 2022 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

This is a Swiss army knife of apps actually, it supports github, mastodon, twitter, telegram, podcasts, and something else. I can't remember what it is but I quite like it, Oh and now it supports home kit integration

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Wonder why Blindie apps have such stupid names?

I was going to suggest QCast, and it has a more sensible name as well. 😊

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 19 January 2022 00:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

You can use tweesecake. http://tweesecake.app This is a brand new client that is being developed.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Altmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

I use QCast with windows 10.

On 01/18/2022 6:12 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the
Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in
anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not
getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or
11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but
can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue
with the program.


Re: Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Sarah k Alawami
 

This is a Swiss army knife of apps actually, it supports github, mastodon, twitter, telegram, podcasts, and something else. I can't remember what it is but I quite like it, Oh and now it supports home kit integration

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Wonder why Blindie apps have such stupid names?

I was going to suggest QCast, and it has a more sensible name as well. 😊

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 19 January 2022 00:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

You can use tweesecake. http://tweesecake.app This is a brand new client that is being developed.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Altmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

I use QCast with windows 10.

On 01/18/2022 6:12 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the
Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in
anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not
getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or
11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but
can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue
with the program.


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep found it after posting the message. I have no idea why my brain though wanted to look in the eloquence settings and not the nvda settings. I visit the nvda settings and should have had that section memorized as I’m always changing stuff there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

 

The check box is in the voice dialog of NVDA.  It is immediately before the OK button and immediately after the fields for adjusting how capital letters are indicated.

 

Gene


Re: Keystroke for Reading Individual Letters

 

Even though this has been answered, I'm putting up the following as an example of how to find this very quickly in the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:

1. Bring up the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:  NVDA + N, H, Q  [NVDA Menu, Help, Commands Quick Reference] which will open in your default browser.

2. Search the page on "NVDA+numpad5," the keystroke you already know.  In the Commands Quick Reference the commands are consistently formatted with no spaces between each of the keys and plus signs.  it also consistently uses lowercase "numpad" with the digit stuck right after the 'd' in numpad for those digits.  This was a smart formatting move as it prevents you from ever getting any other key combination when everything is one long string for the search.

3. Look at the column to the right of where you landed, if you're trying to find the laptop layout for a desktop command, or to the left if you're looking for a desktop layout for a laptop command.  If you so happen to be looking for the touch equivalent, it's two columns to the right of desktop and one to the right of laptop commands.

 

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Re: Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I do not remember which version I have but nothing reads using NVDA. It comes out senseless. I cannot read the Braille code like Window Eyes did.

On 1/19/2022 9:07 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older Duxbury, version 10.4.  It works fine with the current version of NVDA.  All aspects seem to talk as they should.

Howard

On 1/19/2022 7:41 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Since NVDA is open source, it's probably more up to the community to come up with an add-on for a given program.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: January 19, 2022 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

It has been a dream of mine ever since going with NVDA that they had a script for Duxbury as I have to use it frequently and can no longer hear what has been written. I spoke to my friend there several years back and he said it would be up to NVDA to write to script.


On 1/19/2022 5:14 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

This is because JAWS provides a script for Duxbury. Ironically an app for the blind is not  natively accessible, this is strange to me.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Afnan
Nasir
Sent: 18 January 2022 12:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Hello, i hope that all are doing geat, well i've installed DBT (Duxbury Translator) to write braille, but unfortunately, NVDA is not providing spoken feedback while writing. i've also tried perkey duck by same author  (Duxbury ) but results are same.  can anyone guide me about the solution of it? i've tried it with jaws, and it is working fine, but i primarily use NVDA as a main screen reader, so i want to use it with NVDA. any help would be much appreciated.











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Re: Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Howard Traxler
 

I have an older Duxbury, version 10.4.  It works fine with the current version of NVDA.  All aspects seem to talk as they should.

Howard

On 1/19/2022 7:41 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Since NVDA is open source, it's probably more up to the community to come up with an add-on for a given program.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: January 19, 2022 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

It has been a dream of mine ever since going with NVDA that they had a script for Duxbury as I have to use it frequently and can no longer hear what has been written. I spoke to my friend there several years back and he said it would be up to NVDA to write to script.


On 1/19/2022 5:14 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

This is because JAWS provides a script for Duxbury. Ironically an app for the blind is not natively accessible, this is strange to me.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Afnan
Nasir
Sent: 18 January 2022 12:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Hello, i hope that all are doing geat, well i've installed DBT (Duxbury Translator) to write braille, but unfortunately, NVDA is not providing spoken feedback while writing. i've also tried perkey duck by same author (Duxbury ) but results are same. can anyone guide me about the solution of it? i've tried it with jaws, and it is working fine, but i primarily use NVDA as a main screen reader, so i want to use it with NVDA. any help would be much appreciated.











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Re: Keystroke for Reading Individual Letters

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 

Hello, NVDA + shift + o with the keyboard layout laptop.
Regards.


El mié, 19 ene 2022 a las 8:56, David Kingsbury (<davidkingsbury77@...>) escribió:

Hi all,

I know you can press Insert and 5 twice on the num pad to hear words spelled out. What is the equivalent for somebody who does not have a num pad?

Thanks,

David

 



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Keystroke for Reading Individual Letters

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

I know you can press Insert and 5 twice on the num pad to hear words spelled out. What is the equivalent for somebody who does not have a num pad?

Thanks,

David

 


Re: Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Chris Smart
 

Since NVDA is open source, it's probably more up to the community to come up with an add-on for a given program.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: January 19, 2022 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

It has been a dream of mine ever since going with NVDA that they had a script for Duxbury as I have to use it frequently and can no longer hear what has been written. I spoke to my friend there several years back and he said it would be up to NVDA to write to script.


On 1/19/2022 5:14 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

This is because JAWS provides a script for Duxbury. Ironically an app for the blind is not natively accessible, this is strange to me.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Afnan
Nasir
Sent: 18 January 2022 12:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Hello, i hope that all are doing geat, well i've installed DBT (Duxbury Translator) to write braille, but unfortunately, NVDA is not providing spoken feedback while writing. i've also tried perkey duck by same author (Duxbury ) but results are same. can anyone guide me about the solution of it? i've tried it with jaws, and it is working fine, but i primarily use NVDA as a main screen reader, so i want to use it with NVDA. any help would be much appreciated.











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Re: Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Betsy Grenevitch
 

It has been a dream of mine ever since going with NVDA that they had a script for Duxbury as I have to use it frequently and can no longer hear what has been written. I spoke to my friend there several years back and he said it would be up to NVDA to write to script.

On 1/19/2022 5:14 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

This is because JAWS provides a script for Duxbury. Ironically an app for the blind is not natively accessible, this is strange to me.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Afnan Nasir
Sent: 18 January 2022 12:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Hello, i hope that all are doing geat, well i've installed DBT (Duxbury Translator) to write braille, but unfortunately, NVDA is not providing spoken feedback while writing. i've also tried perkey duck by same author (Duxbury ) but results are same. can anyone guide me about the solution of it? i've tried it with jaws, and it is working fine, but i primarily use NVDA as a main screen reader, so i want to use it with NVDA. any help would be much appreciated.










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Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

David Griffith
 

This problem does not  appear to be existent with the Sapi versions of Eloquence.

I am using the Code Factory Sapi 5 Eloquence  to type this and there is no problem with capital announcement. Capitals are being indicated simply by increased pitch as expected.

Yesterday I was using the Kurzweil Sapi 4 version of Eloquence and again there was no  problem with simply hearing increased pitch to indicate capitals.

 

So this may be a problem confined to the Code Factory Addon versions?

I am constantly relieved that I did not go for the addon flavour given the multiple issues reported over the years with NVDA updates etc.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 18 January 2022 15:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

 

Hi,

 

This is a function, or problem with, certain synthesisers.

 

For example, if you use CodeFactory's NVDA Vocalizer add-on, and turn off all the capital options, it will still say Capital, because NVDA doesn't intercept the interpretation of the add-on itself.

 

JAWS has a feature called Controlled By Synthesiser, which you can switch off. If you do, JAWS does all the processing. Maybe NVDA needs something like this. Controlled By Synthesiser can be seen in punctuation settings I believe.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H

Sent: 18 January 2022 15:28

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

 

I have both beep and say cap unchecked under speech settings and NVDA still says capital before a capital letter and when typing a capital letter.

 

On 1/18/2022 7:53 AM, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

> Hi,

> if you mean while typing, then yes.

> in the voice settings, you can find:

> Say cap before capitals  check box  not checked  Alt+c you can check

> it or use the beep option which is right after the cap option.

> good luck.

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:47 PM Don H <lmddh50@...

> <mailto:lmddh50@...>> wrote:

>     Is there a setting in NVDA that causes the word capital to be spoken on

>     capital letters?

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

Steve Nutt
 

Wonder why Blindie apps have such stupid names?

I was going to suggest QCast, and it has a more sensible name as well. 😊

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 19 January 2022 00:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

You can use tweesecake. http://tweesecake.app This is a brand new client that is being developed.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Altmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast app that works with Windows 10 or 11

I use QCast with windows 10.

On 01/18/2022 6:12 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

My Husband, Marcus and I have been getting our Podcasts from the
Victor Stream and are running into issues with them not coming in
anymore. Web sites have shown that they have aired, but we're just not
getting them. Are there any Podcast apps that work with Windows 10 or
11 and are not tied to Apple? We use the latest version of NVDA, but
can also use the latest version of JAWS if accessibility is an issue
with the program.


Re: Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

This is because JAWS provides a script for Duxbury. Ironically an app for the blind is not natively accessible, this is strange to me.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Afnan Nasir
Sent: 18 January 2022 12:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about using NVDA with Duxbury products.

Hello, i hope that all are doing geat, well i've installed DBT (Duxbury Translator) to write braille, but unfortunately, NVDA is not providing spoken feedback while writing. i've also tried perkey duck by same author (Duxbury ) but results are same. can anyone guide me about the solution of it? i've tried it with jaws, and it is working fine, but i primarily use NVDA as a main screen reader, so i want to use it with NVDA. any help would be much appreciated.


Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Gene,

In my testing, you are right. It doesn't happen with Eloquence, but it does with Nuance Vocalizer.

This is because NVDA chucks an upper case character at it, and the synth interprets it correctly.

If you turn caps off completely, then NVDA should be chucking lower case letters at it when you type, then it would stop this happening.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 January 2022 15:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I don't think that is true if you use Eloquence as provided by the add-on, at least when I tried the demo, I didn't have that problem. I don't like the other synthesizer, I don't recall its name, and I hardly played with it. I hope others will discuss whether I am correct because some who want to use eloquence as an add-on might be worried about that.


Gene

On 1/18/2022 9:53 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

This is a function, or problem with, certain synthesisers.

For example, if you use CodeFactory's NVDA Vocalizer add-on, and turn off all the capital options, it will still say Capital, because NVDA doesn't intercept the interpretation of the add-on itself.

JAWS has a feature called Controlled By Synthesiser, which you can switch off. If you do, JAWS does all the processing. Maybe NVDA needs something like this. Controlled By Synthesiser can be seen in punctuation settings I believe.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 18 January 2022 15:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I have both beep and say cap unchecked under speech settings and NVDA still says capital before a capital letter and when typing a capital letter.

On 1/18/2022 7:53 AM, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:
Hi,
if you mean while typing, then yes.
in the voice settings, you can find:
Say cap before capitals check box not checked Alt+c you can check
it or use the beep option which is right after the cap option.
good luck.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:47 PM Don H <lmddh50@...
<mailto:lmddh50@...>> wrote:

Is there a setting in NVDA that causes the word capital to be spoken on
capital letters?















Re: Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

Sam Bushman
 

The setting is in the NVDA Speech Tab.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

 

I should had I’m using eloquence version 1.11.0 according to its about dialogue so I assume I’m up to date. I got it from the AtGuys website. If this setting is in a latter version of the add on, let me know and I’ll try and find it on code factory’s website.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

 

Hi, Don. I had a reverse issue of sorts. I wanted the vocalizer and Eloquence voices to say "cap" before a capital letter. But after installing the latest update to the software a while back, it would spell the word "cap" instead of saying it, which was annoying, to say the least.

So, I tried unchecking the box that said, "Use spelling functionality when supported." Lo and behold, the voices said "capital" instead of spelling the word. So, in your case, try checking that box, if it isn't checked, and see if that doesn't solve your problem.


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer and Eloquence addon

Socheat
 

Well, Code Factory voices are a mess. There are lots of issues exists, and they don't even care fixing it. And not to mention they had a reputation of poor customer support, The DRM protection system is inconsistent, etc etcc. I lost my trust with these guys.

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