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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Jackie
 

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On 1/23/22, tim <z2004a1@...> wrote:
You may want to learn English, Because I under stood everything he said.


On 1/23/2022 8:52 PM, Brian Sackrider wrote:

    I tried to listen to this vidio  but I could notunderstand a word
of what the man was saying.  He was speaking a forign languege.
Vidios do us no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.
I thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.
Apparently not.
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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

tim
 

You may want to learn English, Because I under stood everything he said.


On 1/23/2022 8:52 PM, Brian Sackrider wrote:

    I tried to listen to this vidio  but I could notunderstand a word of what the man was saying.  He was speaking a forign languege.  Vidios do us no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider 

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.  I thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.  Apparently not.
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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Armando
 

Try this link. I think it should work from the beginning now. https://youtu.be/AqoSBK5S3-E

On Jan 23, 2022, at 10:06 PM, Jackie <abletec@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅHe's quite understandable, but you do have to listen closely. I
believe he' might be from the subcontinent. Some earphones might help,
Brian S, but here's what I'd say. I'd wager $100 he speaks better
English than I could speak whatever his native language is. I suspect
that's true of most native English speakers as well. These folks have
huge hurdles to overcome, & the fact that they're doing it speaks
multiple multiple volumes as to their strenght & perseverance. All I
can do is applaud & bow in respect.

The weird thing is that the video doesn't start till about 5min in. I
had to go to the slider, press ctrl home, & that brought me to the
beginning of the video. I've never seen a video do that before, & I'm
mystified as to why it would.

On 1/23/22, Armando (armandovias.com) <armando@...> wrote:
Hello Brian and all.

For me, I can understand the video. If you like, I can create a little audio
file on how to do the same thing as well. It might be a while before I get
to it where I can create a file. Most likely, I can create it tomorrow. I
believe that the link to download the ad on is bit.ly/capchasolver

On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:53 PM, Brian Sackrider <bsackrider55@...>
wrote:

ÔĽŅ
   I tried to listen to this vidio  but I could notunderstand a word of
what the man was saying.  He was speaking a forign languege.  Vidios do us
no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.  I
thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.
Apparently not.
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for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what
these ideals are.
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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Jackie
 

He's quite understandable, but you do have to listen closely. I
believe he' might be from the subcontinent. Some earphones might help,
Brian S, but here's what I'd say. I'd wager $100 he speaks better
English than I could speak whatever his native language is. I suspect
that's true of most native English speakers as well. These folks have
huge hurdles to overcome, & the fact that they're doing it speaks
multiple multiple volumes as to their strenght & perseverance. All I
can do is applaud & bow in respect.

The weird thing is that the video doesn't start till about 5min in. I
had to go to the slider, press ctrl home, & that brought me to the
beginning of the video. I've never seen a video do that before, & I'm
mystified as to why it would.

On 1/23/22, Armando (armandovias.com) <armando@...> wrote:
Hello Brian and all.

For me, I can understand the video. If you like, I can create a little audio
file on how to do the same thing as well. It might be a while before I get
to it where I can create a file. Most likely, I can create it tomorrow. I
believe that the link to download the ad on is bit.ly/capchasolver

On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:53 PM, Brian Sackrider <bsackrider55@...>
wrote:

ÔĽŅ
I tried to listen to this vidio but I could notunderstand a word of
what the man was saying. He was speaking a forign languege. Vidios do us
no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in. I
thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.
Apparently not.
--
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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting
for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what
these ideals are.
~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)





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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Armando
 

On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:58 PM, Armando (armandovias.com) <armando@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅ
Hello Brian and all.

For me, I can understand the video. If you like, I can create a little audio file on how to do the same thing as well. It might be a while before I get to it where I can create a file. Most likely, I can create it tomorrow. I believe that the link to download the ad on is bit.ly/capchasolver

On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:53 PM, Brian Sackrider <bsackrider55@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅ

    I tried to listen to this vidio  but I could notunderstand a word of what the man was saying.  He was speaking a forign languege.  Vidios do us no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider 

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.  I thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.  Apparently not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Armando
 

Hello Brian and all.

For me, I can understand the video. If you like, I can create a little audio file on how to do the same thing as well. It might be a while before I get to it where I can create a file. Most likely, I can create it tomorrow. I believe that the link to download the ad on is bit.ly/capchasolver

On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:53 PM, Brian Sackrider <bsackrider55@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅ

    I tried to listen to this vidio  but I could notunderstand a word of what the man was saying.  He was speaking a forign languege.  Vidios do us no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider 

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.  I thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.  Apparently not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

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Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Brian Sackrider
 

    I tried to listen to this vidio  but I could notunderstand a word of what the man was saying.  He was speaking a forign languege.  Vidios do us no good if the speaker does not speak english.

Brian Sackrider 

On 1/23/2022 7:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.  I thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.  Apparently not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

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Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

Rui Fontes
 

Have you tried to open the PDF in Edge, Chrome or other browser able to open PDF files?


Rui Fontes


Às 01:18 de 24/01/2022, Mary Otten escreveu:

Hi Brian,


I made that change you suggested and the links still do not activate. Not just previous or next, but just trying to activate a link that gets focus from using the "k" key for nvda, nothing happens. Focus stays put. If there is another reader that is accessible, I'm up for it. I've used Acrobat for a long time and it has always provided better access than anything else I knew about. Indeed, it was one of the things that put me off of the Mac and back to Windows.


Gene's suggested method of searching for the text from a given link does work, but it use to be possible to navigate with links, so I'd love to know what's up.


Mary


On 1/23/2022 5:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I am really starting to believe that there is either a bug in the latest Adobe Reader DC or else they've somehow changed in the Accessibility preferences in ways I don't understand.

First, I found that in accessibility settings that for the Always use Page Layout Style dropdown were set to Single Page, which would not give a screen reader access to the whole document in the manner that Single Page Continuous should.  But even with that changed, and all of the links working when you land on them and activate them, once you're on a page using link commands that should move to a previous or next link in the document are not working.

Does anyone use a PDF reader other than Acrobat (as I don't want to start playing the, "Which readers are accessible," game at the moment)?  I know that my reader of preference is not, and I'd love to examine it in another reader that someone who is a screen reader user knows to be accessible.
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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Joseph Weakland
 

i heard the video you did and its impressive :) i have fetched the addon for my collection and thanks for making it for us

On 1/23/2022 8:01 AM, VI Techability wrote:
Hi Everyone, 

One of the problems that we face on the internet is specially solving the image captcha. Here I am posting a video that I have made regarding solving captcha using NVDA.

Solve CAPTCHAs Independently Using a Screen Reader 
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Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

 

I have already uninstalled Adobe Reader DC, and am downloading it again, but my internet has gone glacially slow tonight.

See: https://helpx.adobe.com/reader/using/accessibility-features.html and try running the assistant.
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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

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Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

Mary Otten
 

No, I tried nvda plus f7 which gave the list, but trying to activate something from the list did not work.

On 1/23/2022 4:51 PM, Louis Maher wrote:
Would NVDA key + f7 work?


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Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 2:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

I have a pdf file that I paid for, so I think they probably wouldn't appreciate me posting it somewhere for somebody to look at. It isn't password locked or anything like that.


This is a cookbook, and I can open it in acrobat reader and, once it fully loads, which takes some time, I can move through the links with the k key for visiting the next link. However, when I find a link I want to activate, I can't seem to do so. I have tried the enter key to no avail. I have tried numpad insert plus numpad enter (using desktop layout). I have tried moving to the focus and then doing the simulated left click on the number pad. No luck. Does anybody have any suggestions as to how these links, which act as the table of contents for this book might actually be activated using NVDA?


Mary











Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

Mary Otten
 

Hi Brian,


I made that change you suggested and the links still do not activate. Not just previous or next, but just trying to activate a link that gets focus from using the "k" key for nvda, nothing happens. Focus stays put. If there is another reader that is accessible, I'm up for it. I've used Acrobat for a long time and it has always provided better access than anything else I knew about. Indeed, it was one of the things that put me off of the Mac and back to Windows.


Gene's suggested method of searching for the text from a given link does work, but it use to be possible to navigate with links, so I'd love to know what's up.


Mary


On 1/23/2022 5:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I am really starting to believe that there is either a bug in the latest Adobe Reader DC or else they've somehow changed in the Accessibility preferences in ways I don't understand.

First, I found that in accessibility settings that for the Always use Page Layout Style dropdown were set to Single Page, which would not give a screen reader access to the whole document in the manner that Single Page Continuous should.  But even with that changed, and all of the links working when you land on them and activate them, once you're on a page using link commands that should move to a previous or next link in the document are not working.

Does anyone use a PDF reader other than Acrobat (as I don't want to start playing the, "Which readers are accessible," game at the moment)?  I know that my reader of preference is not, and I'd love to examine it in another reader that someone who is a screen reader user knows to be accessible.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

 

I am really starting to believe that there is either a bug in the latest Adobe Reader DC or else they've somehow changed in the Accessibility preferences in ways I don't understand.

First, I found that in accessibility settings that for the Always use Page Layout Style dropdown were set to Single Page, which would not give a screen reader access to the whole document in the manner that Single Page Continuous should.  But even with that changed, and all of the links working when you land on them and activate them, once you're on a page using link commands that should move to a previous or next link in the document are not working.

Does anyone use a PDF reader other than Acrobat (as I don't want to start playing the, "Which readers are accessible," game at the moment)?  I know that my reader of preference is not, and I'd love to examine it in another reader that someone who is a screen reader user knows to be accessible.
--

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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

Louis Maher
 

Would NVDA key + f7 work?


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 2:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

I have a pdf file that I paid for, so I think they probably wouldn't appreciate me posting it somewhere for somebody to look at. It isn't password locked or anything like that.


This is a cookbook, and I can open it in acrobat reader and, once it fully loads, which takes some time, I can move through the links with the k key for visiting the next link. However, when I find a link I want to activate, I can't seem to do so. I have tried the enter key to no avail. I have tried numpad insert plus numpad enter (using desktop layout). I have tried moving to the focus and then doing the simulated left click on the number pad. No luck. Does anybody have any suggestions as to how these links, which act as the table of contents for this book might actually be activated using NVDA?


Mary


Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

 

By the way, the video started for me way more than a few seconds in.  I thought I might accidentally have moved the time slider somehow.  Apparently not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

       ~ Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989)

 


Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

 

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 04:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I haven't seen this discussed regarding PDF files but if links are the same and behave in the same way as links do in HTML documents, you can have links that require a physical mouse to function.
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If hyperlinks are correctly implemented, they don't require a physical mouse.  I'm not saying that none exist that are incorrectly implemented, just that normal hyperlinks in documents, regardless of format, should be able to be activated by Enter or Spacebar when they have focus.

I'm currently playing with the file Mary makes reference to in NVDA and not having any difficulty using "the conventional keyboard methods" for activating links, whether mailto, regular, or in-document location hyperlinks.  I've asked for more information as I need to "get stuck" somewhere before I can offer a potential way out.  So far, I haven't gotten stuck.
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The instinctive need to be the member of a closely-knit group fighting for common ideals may grow so strong that it becomes inessential what these ideals are.

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Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

 

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 04:45 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
The chances that this file was written in a pdf are probably not high.
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Uh, yes, they are.  Professionally published materials are very, very often created in Adobe Acrobat or some other PDF editing software.

PDF came about as a professional publishing format.

That isn't to say other formats might not be available, just that the presumption that something "was not written as a PDF" when it's hit formal publication is not necessarily correct.
 
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Re: accessing links in a pdf file with nvda

Mary Otten
 

No, I haven't tried to save this as html. It didn't occur to me to do that; I am not sure how I would, since as far as I know Adobe reader DC is a reader, so can it convert to other formats? I'd actually love an epub file and wonder why it wasn't sold in that form, but that's off topic for sure.

On 1/23/2022 1:45 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

You brought it, ask them for a web version of this.

The chances that this file was written in a pdf are probably not high.

No one writes in pdf its always in different files.

Most likely a word document.

I had a book written in pdf and also epub and asked for an accessible version from the authors.

I got the word document.

Have you tried to save the pdf as html assuming you can do this.

You can then open it and use it like any website.



On 24/01/2022 9:20 am, Mary Otten wrote:
I have a pdf file that I paid for, so I think they probably wouldn't appreciate me posting it somewhere for somebody to look at. It isn't password locked or anything like that.


This is a cookbook, and I can open it in acrobat reader and, once it fully loads, which takes some time, I can move through the links with the k key for visiting the next link. However, when I find a link I want to activate, I can't seem to do so. I have tried the enter key to no avail. I have tried numpad insert plus numpad enter (using desktop layout). I have tried moving to the focus and then doing the simulated left click on the number pad. No luck. Does anybody have any suggestions as to how these links, which act as the table of contents for this book might actually be activated using NVDA?


Mary







.



Re: Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

Gene
 

It has a proper beginning but it starts to play a little way in.  I don't know why.  To move to the beginning, turn browse mode off, NVDA key space bar, then type 0.  The file will play from the beginning.


Gene

On 1/23/2022 4:35 PM, Janet Brandly wrote:

Thanks for doing this video. However, it seems to start playing a few seconds late; i.e. there isn’t much of n introduction.

 

Janet

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of VI Techability
Sent: January 23, 2022 7:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Solving CAPTCHAs Independently With the Use of NVDA

 

Hi Everyone, 

One of the problems that we face on the internet is specially solving the image captcha. Here I am posting a video that I have made regarding solving captcha using NVDA.

Solve CAPTCHAs Independently Using a Screen Reader 


Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 cursor doesn't move in Google product edit fields

Russell James
 

To answer Brian's questions

Funny, this is happening as I write this message

I'm not using any NVDA add ons

When this is happening the keyboard continues to speak
The mouse over text using the physical mouse continues to speak

The arrow keys are moving the cursor correctly, however, it is not speaking

This is happening much more often then when I first experienced it
Russ

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 3:46 PM Louise Pfau <louise.pfau@...> wrote:
Hi.  I just tried typing into a Google product search edit field with add-ons disabled, and I was able to replicate the issue.  I should note that the password edit fields appear to behave correctly.

Louise

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