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Re: NVDA Not Talking

Sarah k Alawami
 

Huh? Mine came up talking, I did not need narrator to set it up once I ran the installer. I had one core for my synth upon installing nvda.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

When NVDA first starts you are able to use Narrator to set up things. I found this out just days ago. The real problem once NVDA is installed is getting into the synthesizer settings and choose one you want and pick a voice. Then there are settings which you need to set before you get to the end and press OK
In actual use the setting for talking is set to none at start up until you tell it different. Good Luck.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

Also, you might have speech mode set to beeps somehow, that's what the high-pitched noise makes me think of. Hit NVDA-s, and speech mode will toggle between talk, beeps, and off.


My other thought is that NVDA is picking another sound card/device that's not what you're listening through. If you've got another sound device with an output hooked up, some USB microphones have headphone jacks for example, try hooking up to that and see if NVDA's coming through it. If so, you can hit ctrl-NVDA-s to get into the synthesizer settings, and change the sound device from in there.


On 1/25/2022 11:03 PM, Jackie wrote:
Hi, Steven. Just because there's speech at logon does not mean there
will be speech once the computer has started. Both options need to be
checked in 'Preferences > Settings > General'. Specifically:
"Start NVDA after I sign in" needs to be checked.

On 1/25/22, Steven Hicks <hickser@...> wrote:
Hi friends,



I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after
logging on, there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that
NVDA is running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there
is no speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I
unload NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems
to have happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?











Re: NVDA Not Talking

Jacob Kruger
 

Steven, you could also try fire up something like narrator to see what is showing up when you then activate NVDA menu, and, there, maybe check what synthesizer is selected - NVDA + ctrl + S should bring up synthesizer dialogue, where you could try selecting another one, and, where you can also check selected audio output device?


Besides that, try hitting NVDA + ctrl + R to reset preferences to factory defaults?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-01-26 06:58 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after logging on, there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that NVDA is running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there is no speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I unload NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems to have happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?

 

 


Re: NVDA Not Talking

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

When NVDA first starts you are able to use Narrator to set up things. I found this out just days ago. The real problem once NVDA is installed is getting into the synthesizer settings and choose one you want and pick a voice. Then there are settings which you need to set before you get to the end and press OK
In actual use the setting for talking is set to none at start up until you tell it different. Good Luck.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

Also, you might have speech mode set to beeps somehow, that's what the high-pitched noise makes me think of. Hit NVDA-s, and speech mode will toggle between talk, beeps, and off.


My other thought is that NVDA is picking another sound card/device that's not what you're listening through. If you've got another sound device with an output hooked up, some USB microphones have headphone jacks for example, try hooking up to that and see if NVDA's coming through it. If so, you can hit ctrl-NVDA-s to get into the synthesizer settings, and change the sound device from in there.


On 1/25/2022 11:03 PM, Jackie wrote:
Hi, Steven. Just because there's speech at logon does not mean there
will be speech once the computer has started. Both options need to be
checked in 'Preferences > Settings > General'. Specifically:
"Start NVDA after I sign in" needs to be checked.

On 1/25/22, Steven Hicks <hickser@...> wrote:
Hi friends,



I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after
logging on, there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that
NVDA is running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there
is no speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I
unload NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems
to have happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?











Re: NVDA Not Talking

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Sounds like you might not have nvda start when windows does after logging in to windows.


If that is the case use the alt key + ctrl key + the letter N. If you then hear a musical sound then it starts talking you will need to check under settings start nvda when windows starts or some thing like that under the general settings in nvda.


The other option thaht comes to mind is the synth you are using.


sorta makes it hard with no speech. If you know nvda is running but not talking use the ctrl key + nvda key + the letter S to bring up the synthesizer settings it might be set to no sppech? or a buggy synth.


If this is the case wile the synth settings is open use the letter E to get you up to E speak or W to get you to windows one core voices. If it speak correctly then tab down to the apply or ok button.


Hopefully that should do the trick.


Gene nz



 

On 26/01/2022 5:58 pm, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after logging on, there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that NVDA is running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there is no speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I unload NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems to have happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?

 

 


Re: NVDA Not Talking

Arlene
 

That is strange. Do you have NVDA run as your primairy screen reader?  You might want to check NVDA’S  settings. You must have run a muck when you installed it.  

 

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From: Steven Hicks
Sent: January 25, 2022 8:58 PM
To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after logging on, there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that NVDA is running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there is no speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I unload NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems to have happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?

 

 

 


Re: NVDA Not Talking

John Isige
 

Also, you might have speech mode set to beeps somehow, that's what the high-pitched noise makes me think of. Hit NVDA-s, and speech mode will toggle between talk, beeps, and off.


My other thought is that NVDA is picking another sound card/device that's not what you're listening through. If you've got another sound device with an output hooked up, some USB microphones have headphone jacks for example, try hooking up to that and see if NVDA's coming through it. If so, you can hit ctrl-NVDA-s to get into the synthesizer settings, and change the sound device from in there.

On 1/25/2022 11:03 PM, Jackie wrote:
Hi, Steven. Just because there's speech at logon does not mean there
will be speech once the computer has started. Both options need to be
checked in 'Preferences > Settings > General'. Specifically:
"Start NVDA after I sign in" needs to be checked.

On 1/25/22, Steven Hicks <hickser@...> wrote:
Hi friends,



I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after logging on,
there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that NVDA
is
running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there is no
speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I unload
NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems to
have
happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?











Re: NVDA Not Talking

Jackie
 

Hi, Steven. Just because there's speech at logon does not mean there
will be speech once the computer has started. Both options need to be
checked in 'Preferences > Settings > General'. Specifically:
"Start NVDA after I sign in" needs to be checked.

On 1/25/22, Steven Hicks <hickser@...> wrote:
Hi friends,



I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after logging on,
there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that NVDA
is
running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there is no
speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I unload
NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems to
have
happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?










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NVDA Not Talking

Steven Hicks
 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed the latest NVDA on my laptop.

When I start up, there is speech at the logon screen but after logging on, there is nothing at all, no speech.

During the installation, there was no speech either which seems quite odd.

If I load up JAWS then I can use the NVDA+N and it would appear that NVDA is running.

I Use NVDA+Q and JAWS will read the NVDA quit screen but again, there is no speech from NVDA itself.

When I type, there is a high pitched sound for some reason until I unload NVDA.

I Tried uninstalling NVDA and re-installing but the same thing seems to have happened afterwards.

Does anyone have any ideas please?

 

 


Re: NVDA announcing teams alerts

Sarah k Alawami
 

Is then sounds like an electron issue. Is there a work around for that? Teams is built off of the electron platform which is why I ask.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing teams alerts

This sounds like the same kind of problem that exists in Chrome browsers. It doesn't matter what window you are in, if you are downloading a file, download progress messages are announced. There needs to be a way for screen-readers to turn off forced speech. I don't know the various ways speech can be forced but screen-readers should have ways to stop it that the user can control.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 9:53 PM, Sharad Koirala wrote:
hi,

for the sighted folks, the alerts are shown only when they are in the
teams window, but for us it is spoken even when we are in the
powerpoint window..
and thats where the problem comes.

thanks.

On 1/22/22, Martin J. Dürst <duerst@...> wrote:

On 2022-01-22 12:24, Gene via groups.io wrote:
There is no reason to believe sighted people get tired of seeing it.
They can ignore the display if they want. Sight is not necessarily
analogous to sound. A stock ticker on a web page, if a
screen-=-reader constantly speaks the updates would be so
distracting and interfere so much with listening to other content
that the page couldn't be used. A sighted person can simply not look at the ticker.
That's true to a very large extent. But sighted people are quite
sensitive to visual movement. So if the stock ticker is mostly not
changing, there's not much distraction. But if it's changing all the
time, and especially if it's changing strongly or in unexpected ways,
then it can be really quite distracting.

Regards, Martin.






Re: NVDA announcing teams alerts

Gene
 

This sounds like the same kind of problem that exists in Chrome browsers.  It doesn't matter what window you are in, if you are downloading a file, download progress messages are announced. There needs to be a way for screen-readers to turn off forced speech.  I don't know the various ways speech can be forced but screen-readers should have ways to stop it that the user can control.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 9:53 PM, Sharad Koirala wrote:
hi,

for the sighted folks, the alerts are shown only when they are in the
teams window, but for us it is spoken even when we are in the
powerpoint window..
and thats where the problem comes.

thanks.

On 1/22/22, Martin J. Dürst <duerst@...> wrote:

On 2022-01-22 12:24, Gene via groups.io wrote:
There is no reason to believe sighted people get tired of seeing it.
They can ignore the display if they want.  Sight is not necessarily
analogous to sound.  A stock ticker on a web page, if a screen-=-reader
constantly speaks the updates would be so distracting and interfere so
much with listening to other content that the page couldn't be used.  A
sighted person can simply not look at the ticker.
That's true to a very large extent. But sighted people are quite
sensitive to visual movement. So if the stock ticker is mostly not
changing, there's not much distraction. But if it's changing all the
time, and especially if it's changing strongly or in unexpected ways,
then it can be really quite distracting.

Regards, Martin.






Re: NVDA announcing teams alerts

Sharad Koirala
 

hi,

for the sighted folks, the alerts are shown only when they are in the
teams window, but for us it is spoken even when we are in the
powerpoint window..
and thats where the problem comes.

thanks.

On 1/22/22, Martin J. Dürst <duerst@...> wrote:


On 2022-01-22 12:24, Gene via groups.io wrote:
There is no reason to believe sighted people get tired of seeing it.
They can ignore the display if they want.  Sight is not necessarily
analogous to sound.  A stock ticker on a web page, if a screen-=-reader
constantly speaks the updates would be so distracting and interfere so
much with listening to other content that the page couldn't be used.  A
sighted person can simply not look at the ticker.
That's true to a very large extent. But sighted people are quite
sensitive to visual movement. So if the stock ticker is mostly not
changing, there's not much distraction. But if it's changing all the
time, and especially if it's changing strongly or in unexpected ways,
then it can be really quite distracting.

Regards, Martin.





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Lecturer
Department of Community Medicine
Gandaki Medical College, Pokhara, Nepal


Re: ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

Sarah k Alawami
 

Good, glad you   found it, also you learned a new key stroke, I think it speaks that one, if not you can look under zoom’s prefs to see if my fingers didn’t get tongue tied.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

 

Gene, thank you so much!

 

Logging into the Zoom Website itself, I found that screen sharing had been disabled.

 

I can stop panicking now. LOL

Thanks again.

 


Re: ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

Sarah k Alawami
 

I have a paid account and I can share screens. Not sure if it is a pro account, it’s the one with up to 100 people limit. Try the alt s key to bring up the dialogue.

 

Good luck.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

 

Adendum: The meeting two weeks ago where I was able to share my screen used a free Zoom account. It’s using a pro account where I can’t seem to find any controls to share my screen.

 

What could be different between free and paid that would cause this?

 


Re: ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you try alt s to share, then go through the dialogue that should in theory come up? It’s been a while since I’ve done this, I use discord for most of that now. Sorry.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

 

Please help! I can't find the button to share my screen during Zoom meetings!

I had no trouble doing this in the last two weeks, although I don’t recall the exact date when I last shared my screen.

 

I'm running the latest zoom under Windows 10 with NVDA. I have a Pro account, and I am the host of the meeting.

 

Before, I would simply press ALT+S and then specify what I wanted to share. But pressing ALT+S seems to do nothing now, and tabbing through the meeting controls does not take me to a Share Screen button.

 

I can't seem to find anything in my local settings or the meeting scheduling options that would affect screen sharing either.

I'm stumped, and I am giving an important presentation in two days time to sighted people, demonstrating how I navigate a Website using a screenreader.

 

Any help gratefully received.

 

Chris

P.S. I’ve also checked in Settings in both the Hotkeys and Accessibility categories, and nothing seems amiss there either.


Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

Gene
 

I don't know how much you might want to do to pursue the problem further.  One option, which will cost money, is to get the SAPI Vocalizer voices,  You may want to try the program to see if you have the same problem.

You can find it on this page:

https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=60_20

There are the methods to try to correct the problem Brian discussed and then there is this possible solution that will cost you money.  But I'm making you aware of the option, if you aren't.  And you may want to test for the problem using the SAPI demo.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 3:49 PM, Don H wrote:
Yes there are setting under the code factory entery under settings.
Same screen where you download more voices.  Nothing in the settings
here fixes the issue of saying capital.

On 1/25/2022 3:44 PM, Gene wrote:
There is a way to open settings for the add-on itself but I don't know
how you do it.  I have a guess which I will present.  To explain why
this is my guess would require explanation which isn't relevant to the
discussion.  It has to do with what the expired demo does when you try
to run it.  When you are using a vocalizer voice, try opening the
synthesizer dialog, control NVDA s, moving to the Vocalizer choice, and
pressing enter.  Does the settings dialog open?


I have an expired demo.  The only setting I can see that might possibly
apply is one for raising the pitch for capital.  As I recall, it is a
check box.  There is no say cap or say capital setting.  Maybe if you
turn on the raise pitch option, capital won't be spoken.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 3:05 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Don

If  in the Voice Settings dialog (NVDA+Ctrl+v),you set Uppercase pitch
change to 0, Say Cap unchecked and Beep before Capitals unchecked you
say NVDA says "Capital" before capital letters but if you check the
"say Cap" checkbox, it only says "Cap", is that correct?

Does the Code Factory addon have any adjustable properties available
via the Preferences sub-menu (NVDA+n p) or in the catagories list of
the Settings dialog (NVDA+n p s)?  I'm asking these questions because
I think it's the Code Factory addon that is responsible for it saying
"Capital" and I wondered if there were any adjustable properties
governing this behaviour.

Cheers

                Chris

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*From: *Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent: *25 January 2022 14:21
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I think I started this thread and here is what I have figured out.  When

using the code Factory vocalizer addon for NVDA if you have the voice

settings to not say cap and also have the beep for caps off on my system

NVDA says the word capital before each uppercase letter.  To make this

better in my opinion I now have my voice settings set with a pitch

change on caps on zero and I have say cap on capitaleters turned on.  So

now on capital letters NVDA says cap before each uppercase letter and I

hear no pitch change on capitals.  This makes the verbage on capital

letters a little better.

I did also make it stop saying capital by adding each uppercase letter

to the default dictionary replacing each with a lowercase letter and

this resulted in only hearing a pitch change on uppercase letters but

for some reason this pitch only for uppercase letters was inconsistent

with some uppercase letters being typed not having a raised pitch.  I

removed all the enteries I made to the default dictionary.

On 1/25/2022 3:59 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Interesting, I’ll test it again, but when I’ve tried it before, I
didn’t

get beeps when I set capitals to beep.
All the best
Steve
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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* 21 January 2022 17:08
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters
I just tested this.  It comes through the sound card.
Gene
On 1/21/2022 10:53 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
     I think this is because the beep option unhelpfully comes through
     the PC speaker, instead of your soundcard.
     Some PCs don’t have a PC speaker any more, so the beep sound
won’t

     work for them.
     I think this should be changed in NVDA.
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     *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters
     Hello,
     I have the beep option checked but I get no sound when I type.
       I try to use the tone option, but   can’t seem to choose the
        right numbers so I can use that method. I don’t hear   any
change

     in tone when caps are typed.
     I do not like the word caps spoken as I can’t hear what I am
     typing.    What am I missing?
     Marilynn



Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

Don H
 

Yes there are setting under the code factory entery under settings.
Same screen where you download more voices. Nothing in the settings
here fixes the issue of saying capital.

On 1/25/2022 3:44 PM, Gene wrote:
There is a way to open settings for the add-on itself but I don't know
how you do it.  I have a guess which I will present.  To explain why
this is my guess would require explanation which isn't relevant to the
discussion.  It has to do with what the expired demo does when you try
to run it.  When you are using a vocalizer voice, try opening the
synthesizer dialog, control NVDA s, moving to the Vocalizer choice, and
pressing enter.  Does the settings dialog open?


I have an expired demo.  The only setting I can see that might possibly
apply is one for raising the pitch for capital.  As I recall, it is a
check box.  There is no say cap or say capital setting.  Maybe if you
turn on the raise pitch option, capital won't be spoken.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 3:05 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Don

If  in the Voice Settings dialog (NVDA+Ctrl+v),you set Uppercase pitch
change to 0, Say Cap unchecked and Beep before Capitals unchecked you
say NVDA says "Capital" before capital letters but if you check the
"say Cap" checkbox, it only says "Cap", is that correct?

Does the Code Factory addon have any adjustable properties available
via the Preferences sub-menu (NVDA+n p) or in the catagories list of
the Settings dialog (NVDA+n p s)?  I'm asking these questions because
I think it's the Code Factory addon that is responsible for it saying
"Capital" and I wondered if there were any adjustable properties
governing this behaviour.

Cheers

                Chris

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*From: *Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent: *25 January 2022 14:21
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I think I started this thread and here is what I have figured out.  When

using the code Factory vocalizer addon for NVDA if you have the voice

settings to not say cap and also have the beep for caps off on my system

NVDA says the word capital before each uppercase letter.  To make this

better in my opinion I now have my voice settings set with a pitch

change on caps on zero and I have say cap on capitaleters turned on.  So

now on capital letters NVDA says cap before each uppercase letter and I

hear no pitch change on capitals.  This makes the verbage on capital

letters a little better.

I did also make it stop saying capital by adding each uppercase letter

to the default dictionary replacing each with a lowercase letter and

this resulted in only hearing a pitch change on uppercase letters but

for some reason this pitch only for uppercase letters was inconsistent

with some uppercase letters being typed not having a raised pitch.  I

removed all the enteries I made to the default dictionary.

On 1/25/2022 3:59 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Interesting, I’ll test it again, but when I’ve tried it before, I didn’t
get beeps when I set capitals to beep.
All the best
Steve
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*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters
I just tested this.  It comes through the sound card.
Gene
On 1/21/2022 10:53 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
     I think this is because the beep option unhelpfully comes through
     the PC speaker, instead of your soundcard.
     Some PCs don’t have a PC speaker any more, so the beep sound won’t
     work for them.
     I think this should be changed in NVDA.
     All the best
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     *Sent:* 20 January 2022 06:18
     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
     *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters
     Hello,
     I have the beep option checked but I get no sound when I type.
       I try to use the tone option, but   can’t seem to choose the
        right numbers so I can use that method. I don’t hear   any change
     in tone when caps are typed.
     I do not like the word caps spoken as I can’t hear what I am
     typing.    What am I missing?
     Marilynn


Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

Gene
 

There is a way to open settings for the add-on itself but I don't know how you do it.  I have a guess which I will present.  To explain why this is my guess would require explanation which isn't relevant to the discussion.  It has to do with what the expired demo does when you try to run it.  When you are using a vocalizer voice, try opening the synthesizer dialog, control NVDA s, moving to the Vocalizer choice, and pressing enter.  Does the settings dialog open? 


I have an expired demo.  The only setting I can see that might possibly apply is one for raising the pitch for capital.  As I recall, it is a check box.  There is no say cap or say capital setting.  Maybe if you turn on the raise pitch option, capital won't be spoken.


Gene

On 1/25/2022 3:05 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Don

If  in the Voice Settings dialog (NVDA+Ctrl+v),you set Uppercase pitch change to 0, Say Cap unchecked and Beep before Capitals unchecked you say NVDA says "Capital" before capital letters but if you check the "say Cap" checkbox, it only says "Cap", is that correct?

 

Does the Code Factory addon have any adjustable properties available via the Preferences sub-menu (NVDA+n p) or in the catagories list of the Settings dialog (NVDA+n p s)?  I'm asking these questions because I think it's the Code Factory addon that is responsible for it saying "Capital" and I wondered if there were any adjustable properties governing this behaviour. 

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Don H
Sent: 25 January 2022 14:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

 

I think I started this thread and here is what I have figured out.  When

using the code Factory vocalizer addon for NVDA if you have the voice

settings to not say cap and also have the beep for caps off on my system

NVDA says the word capital before each uppercase letter.  To make this

better in my opinion I now have my voice settings set with a pitch

change on caps on zero and I have say cap on capitaleters turned on.  So

now on capital letters NVDA says cap before each uppercase letter and I

hear no pitch change on capitals.  This makes the verbage on capital

letters a little better.

I did also make it stop saying capital by adding each uppercase letter

to the default dictionary replacing each with a lowercase letter and

this resulted in only hearing a pitch change on uppercase letters but

for some reason this pitch only for uppercase letters was inconsistent

with some uppercase letters being typed not having a raised pitch.  I

removed all the enteries I made to the default dictionary.

 

On 1/25/2022 3:59 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Interesting, I’ll test it again, but when I’ve tried it before, I didn’t

> get beeps when I set capitals to beep.

> All the best

> Steve

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> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene

> *Sent:* 21 January 2022 17:08

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

> I just tested this.  It comes through the sound card.

> Gene

> On 1/21/2022 10:53 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

>     I think this is because the beep option unhelpfully comes through

>     the PC speaker, instead of your soundcard.

>     Some PCs don’t have a PC speaker any more, so the beep sound won’t

>     work for them.

>     I think this should be changed in NVDA.

>     All the best

>     Steve

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>     *Marilyn and Don Bilderback

>     *Sent:* 20 January 2022 06:18

>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>     *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

>     Hello,

>     I have the beep option checked but I get no sound when I type.

>       I try to use the tone option, but   can’t seem to choose the

>        right numbers so I can use that method. I don’t hear   any change

>     in tone when caps are typed.

>     I do not like the word caps spoken as I can’t hear what I am

>     typing.    What am I missing?

>     Marilynn

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

Don H
 

Again this is happening on a Win 10 system running NVDA and the code
Gactory vocalizer/eloquince addon for NVDA. Both Win 10 and NVDA are
the latest released versions.
I have the Code Factory Vocalizer selected as my speech syn and Nathon
High quality as my voice. I have the voice settings set as follows
pitch change on capitals set at zero
Say cap for capital letters checked
beep for capital letters unchecked.
This gives the result of the word cap being spoken before each uppercase
letter. There is no pitch change on uppercase letters
With the say cap on capitals unchecked as I had it before NVDA says the
whole word capital before each uppercase letter.
So having the say cap option checked and the pitch change set to zero I
get less verbage on uppercase letters.

On 1/25/2022 3:05 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi Don

If  in the Voice Settings dialog (NVDA+Ctrl+v),you set Uppercase pitch
change to 0, Say Cap unchecked and Beep before Capitals unchecked you
say NVDA says "Capital" before capital letters but if you check the "say
Cap" checkbox, it only says "Cap", is that correct?

Does the Code Factory addon have any adjustable properties available via
the Preferences sub-menu (NVDA+n p) or in the catagories list of the
Settings dialog (NVDA+n p s)?  I'm asking these questions because I
think it's the Code Factory addon that is responsible for it saying
"Capital" and I wondered if there were any adjustable properties
governing this behaviour.

Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

*From: *Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent: *25 January 2022 14:21
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

I think I started this thread and here is what I have figured out.  When

using the code Factory vocalizer addon for NVDA if you have the voice

settings to not say cap and also have the beep for caps off on my system

NVDA says the word capital before each uppercase letter.  To make this

better in my opinion I now have my voice settings set with a pitch

change on caps on zero and I have say cap on capitaleters turned on.  So

now on capital letters NVDA says cap before each uppercase letter and I

hear no pitch change on capitals.  This makes the verbage on capital

letters a little better.

I did also make it stop saying capital by adding each uppercase letter

to the default dictionary replacing each with a lowercase letter and

this resulted in only hearing a pitch change on uppercase letters but

for some reason this pitch only for uppercase letters was inconsistent

with some uppercase letters being typed not having a raised pitch.  I

removed all the enteries I made to the default dictionary.

On 1/25/2022 3:59 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Interesting, I’ll test it again, but when I’ve tried it before, I didn’t

> get beeps when I set capitals to beep.

>

> All the best

>

>

> Steve

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> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene

> *Sent:* 21 January 2022 17:08

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

>

> I just tested this.  It comes through the sound card.

>

> Gene

>

> On 1/21/2022 10:53 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

>

>     I think this is because the beep option unhelpfully comes through

>     the PC speaker, instead of your soundcard.

>

>     Some PCs don’t have a PC speaker any more, so the beep sound won’t

>     work for them.

>

>     I think this should be changed in NVDA.

>

>     All the best

>

>

>     Steve

>

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>     *Sent:* 20 January 2022 06:18

>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>     *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

>

>     Hello,

>

>     I have the beep option checked but I get no sound when I type.

>

>       I try to use the tone option, but   can’t seem to choose the

>        right numbers so I can use that method. I don’t hear   any change

>     in tone when caps are typed.

>

>     I do not like the word caps spoken as I can’t hear what I am

>     typing.    What am I missing?

>

>     Marilynn

>

>


Re: NVDA announcing Capital letters

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Don

If  in the Voice Settings dialog (NVDA+Ctrl+v),you set Uppercase pitch change to 0, Say Cap unchecked and Beep before Capitals unchecked you say NVDA says "Capital" before capital letters but if you check the "say Cap" checkbox, it only says "Cap", is that correct?

 

Does the Code Factory addon have any adjustable properties available via the Preferences sub-menu (NVDA+n p) or in the catagories list of the Settings dialog (NVDA+n p s)?  I'm asking these questions because I think it's the Code Factory addon that is responsible for it saying "Capital" and I wondered if there were any adjustable properties governing this behaviour. 

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Don H
Sent: 25 January 2022 14:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

 

I think I started this thread and here is what I have figured out.  When

using the code Factory vocalizer addon for NVDA if you have the voice

settings to not say cap and also have the beep for caps off on my system

NVDA says the word capital before each uppercase letter.  To make this

better in my opinion I now have my voice settings set with a pitch

change on caps on zero and I have say cap on capitaleters turned on.  So

now on capital letters NVDA says cap before each uppercase letter and I

hear no pitch change on capitals.  This makes the verbage on capital

letters a little better.

I did also make it stop saying capital by adding each uppercase letter

to the default dictionary replacing each with a lowercase letter and

this resulted in only hearing a pitch change on uppercase letters but

for some reason this pitch only for uppercase letters was inconsistent

with some uppercase letters being typed not having a raised pitch.  I

removed all the enteries I made to the default dictionary.

 

On 1/25/2022 3:59 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Interesting, I’ll test it again, but when I’ve tried it before, I didn’t

> get beeps when I set capitals to beep.

> All the best

> Steve

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> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene

> *Sent:* 21 January 2022 17:08

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

> I just tested this.  It comes through the sound card.

> Gene

> On 1/21/2022 10:53 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

>     I think this is because the beep option unhelpfully comes through

>     the PC speaker, instead of your soundcard.

>     Some PCs don’t have a PC speaker any more, so the beep sound won’t

>     work for them.

>     I think this should be changed in NVDA.

>     All the best

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>     *Marilyn and Don Bilderback

>     *Sent:* 20 January 2022 06:18

>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>     *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA announcing Capital letters

>     Hello,

>     I have the beep option checked but I get no sound when I type.

>       I try to use the tone option, but   can’t seem to choose the

>        right numbers so I can use that method. I don’t hear   any change

>     in tone when caps are typed.

>     I do not like the word caps spoken as I can’t hear what I am

>     typing.    What am I missing?

>     Marilynn

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: ZOOM PRO: CAN'T SHARE SCREEN

Chris Smart
 

Gene, thank you so much!

 

Logging into the Zoom Website itself, I found that screen sharing had been disabled.

 

I can stop panicking now. LOL

Thanks again.

 

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