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NVDA Not Talking

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

What a relief, right? I hate to brag, but I sent those instructions on Tuesday evening. Right away, someone said I was wrong. And I guess you didn’t want to investigate anyway. Smile. You could have saved hours of frustration if you had trusted me. I had just gone through installing a new copy of NVDA and that is what steps I had to do. I even had a pair of working eyes helping me and that is what it said to do. I can’t help what used to be the protocol but I just followed what the computer said. Anyhow, glad to have you added to the working NVDA population. Marilyn

I have added below the Email I sent with the steps I took, so you can perhaps remember the post.
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Nvda.nvda@groups.io

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

When NVDA first starts you are able to use Narrator to set up things. I found this out just days ago. The real problem once NVDA is installed is getting into the synthesizer settings and choose one you want and pick a voice. Then there are settings which you need to set before you get to the end and press OK
In actual use the setting for talking is set to none at start up until you tell it different. Good Luck.
Marilyn

Also, this message followed refuting my claim

uh? Mine came up talking, I did not need narrator to set it up once I ran the installer. I had one core for my synth upon installing nvda.


nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

Thanks so much to everyone, now sorted it.
Uninstalled NVDA, re-installed but still had the issue.
I Used Narrator while NVDA was running, used NVDA+CTRL+S, no speech was set and I had to change the synthesiser to ESpeak.
Now working like a charm, thanks again all!


Re: Weird Editing Behaviour in Chrome and Edge?

Sarah k Alawami
 

This was already discussed a few weeks ago. I'm suffering this as well and can't wait for updates from the chromium side of things. It's a bit annoying but I can deal with it, for now.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:07 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Weird Editing Behaviour in Chrome and Edge?

NVDA stops reading entered text once you start typing, at least in search boxes like Google's and Youtube's. Is there reasoning behind this? I didn't see any updates to anything, it just started doing this a few days ago. Thanks!


Weird Editing Behaviour in Chrome and Edge?

Clement Chou
 

NVDA stops reading entered text once you start typing, at least in
search boxes like Google's and Youtube's. Is there reasoning behind
this? I didn't see any updates to anything, it just started doing this
a few days ago. Thanks!


Re: NVDA Not Talking

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  How did it get set to no speech, in case someone else comes across this?

Louise


Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Glenn,

I wrote a piece for In-Process just for you when we launched it: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-february-2020/#ScreenCurtain (OK not just for you, but it does address the exact question you are asking).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 8:55 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn



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Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Gene
 

I want to point out that I didn't think about all this in detail until the question was asked today.  I might look somewhere if I thought something was more likely to be there, but if it wasn't, then I would look other places.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 4:09 PM, Gene wrote:

It is often more efficient to look through the NVDA menus to find something like this.  Remember that you are not dealing with settings, as would generally be defined.  Settings are often preferences and that explains why settings is a submenu  in preferences.  You are not dealing with settings as generally defined.  but you are dealing with preferences.  It is a preference if you want to redefine a key.  So open the `NVBA main menu, then open preferences and down arrow through what is there.  You will find it.


I would imagine that it could be argued that these are settings, but however you think of them, you will generally find such things looking through menus and submenus. 


Another example is Manage Add-ons.  That is in the tools menu. 


I hope this discussion saves some or many people time when looking for things. 


Gene

On 1/27/2022 3:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn


Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Jackie
 

&, btw, if you go to the preferences > help menu > user guide (u) &
press enter, then search for input gestures, the link pops up on the
screen for you to activate. There's all sorts of info in there, & it's
a well-organized, well-thought out document, well worth consulting
IMO.

On 1/27/22, Jackie via groups.io <abletec@...> wrote:
Go to preferences > settings > input gestures. Expand the categories
treeview to see the various keys assigned w/right arrow, collapse it
w/left.

On 1/27/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to
the
input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing
on
how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign
a
shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if
there
was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.

Glenn






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Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Jackie
 

Go to preferences > settings > input gestures. Expand the categories
treeview to see the various keys assigned w/right arrow, collapse it
w/left.

On 1/27/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the
input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on
how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a
shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there
was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.

Glenn





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Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Gene
 

It is often more efficient to look through the NVDA menus to find something like this.  Remember that you are not dealing with settings, as would generally be defined.  Settings are often preferences and that explains why settings is a submenu  in preferences.  You are not dealing with settings as generally defined.  but you are dealing with preferences.  It is a preference if you want to redefine a key.  So open the `NVBA main menu, then open preferences and down arrow through what is there.  You will find it.


I would imagine that it could be argued that these are settings, but however you think of them, you will generally find such things looking through menus and submenus. 


Another example is Manage Add-ons.  That is in the tools menu. 


I hope this discussion saves some or many people time when looking for things. 


Gene

On 1/27/2022 3:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn


Input Gesture Dialog

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Shift insert D is the command for audio ducking.

 

 

 

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From: Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

Ah ha, yes, that may do it, can anyone tell me where that setting is please?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: 27 January 2022 18:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

You can turn on audio ducking which will turn down the music while NVDA speaks and turn it back up again when it isn't speaking.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/27/2022 11:59 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?

 

 

 


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Steven Hicks
 

Ah ha, yes, that may do it, can anyone tell me where that setting is please?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: 27 January 2022 18:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

You can turn on audio ducking which will turn down the music while NVDA speaks and turn it back up again when it isn't speaking.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/27/2022 11:59 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?

 

 


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Howard Traxler
 

Thanks, Gene.  I'll give that one a try.  Also, when I boot up, before NVDA starts, there is a very loud voice that says something about log in.  And again when I shut down after NVDA closes.

Howard

On 1/27/2022 1:55 PM, Gene wrote:
My guess is that the beeps you are talking about are changed by the system sounds control in the Windows volume control.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 12:50 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
There is a selector in the volume control just for NVDA.  I'm wondering if it just controls the voice; or does it also control the beeps? Like in the progress bar, and in the open and close sounds. My progress bar is much too loud; but I don't want  the speech any quieter.

Howard


On 1/27/2022 12:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It only goes to 100 percent if you are using control shift nvda up and down to adjust volume. [laptop keyboard layout] this after of corse nvda shift left right to navigate the synth ring.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Steven Hicks
*Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?








Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Gene
 

My guess is that the beeps you are talking about are changed by the system sounds control in the Windows volume control.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 12:50 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
There is a selector in the volume control just for NVDA.  I'm wondering if it just controls the voice; or does it also control the beeps? Like in the progress bar, and in the open and close sounds. My progress bar is much too loud; but I don't want  the speech any quieter.

Howard


On 1/27/2022 12:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It only goes to 100 percent if you are using control shift nvda up and down to adjust volume. [laptop keyboard layout] this after of corse nvda shift left right to navigate the synth ring.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Steven Hicks
*Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?





Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Gene
 

But the NVDA volume level, set from within NVDA, changes by default from synthesizer to another.  For many, the default setting is far below 100. 


The ring method is another way of changing the volume I hadn't thought of, which changes the same thing I was describing.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 12:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It only goes to 100 percent if you are using control shift nvda up and down to adjust volume. [laptop keyboard layout] this after of corse nvda shift left right to navigate the synth ring.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?

 


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Gene
 

If you open the speech settings dialog, control NVDA key v, and tab around, you will find a volume control slider for NVDA.  You can change it to whatever you want and then change it back in one command, control NVDA key r, which restores the saved configuration.


That is, if NVDA hasn't shut down with the new volume level.  If you are using the default save settings on exit setting, if NVDA closes or is closed, the new setting will be saved.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 11:59 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?

 


Re: NVDA And Microsoft Outlook 365

Gene
 

I don't use that program but its likely something in the table settings.  I don't know which setting it is so you can experiment or, if you don't care if you hear table information in e-mails, you can create a profile and have all table information turned off.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 11:04 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Is there a way to stop NVDA reading the column titles when arrowing up and down in your inbox?

 


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't think that is controlled by the nvda slider but by your windows
volume control, at least as far as I have found. Perhaps make a suggestion
on github otherwise the issue doesn't exist.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

There is a selector in the volume control just for NVDA.  I'm wondering if
it just controls the voice; or does it also control the beeps?  Like in the
progress bar, and in the open and close sounds. My progress bar is much too
loud; but I don't want  the speech any quieter.

Howard


On 1/27/2022 12:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It only goes to 100 percent if you are using control shift nvda up and
down to adjust volume. [laptop keyboard layout] this after of corse
nvda shift left right to navigate the synth ring.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Steven Hicks
*Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps
with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA
louder when it is speaking?


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Howard Traxler
 

There is a selector in the volume control just for NVDA.  I'm wondering if it just controls the voice; or does it also control the beeps?  Like in the progress bar, and in the open and close sounds. My progress bar is much too loud; but I don't want  the speech any quieter.

Howard

On 1/27/2022 12:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It only goes to 100 percent if you are using control shift nvda up and down to adjust volume. [laptop keyboard layout] this after of corse nvda shift left right to navigate the synth ring.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Steven Hicks
*Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?


Re: Adjusting The NVDA Volume

Sarah k Alawami
 

It only goes to 100 percent if you are using control shift nvda up and down to adjust volume. [laptop keyboard layout] this after of corse nvda shift left right to navigate the synth ring.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adjusting The NVDA Volume

 

Is there a way to adjust the NVDA volume independent of other apps with the keyboard e.g. if I have music playing, can I turn up NVDA louder when it is speaking?

 

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