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Re: Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22543

 

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:04 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it will be 1core so probably.
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That is not made explicit.  In fact, this is the first time I think I've seen anything that discusses "inside Narrator" voice downloading.  In the past everything has generally used the Language Pane of Time & Language Settings to snag additional voices.

If you are correct, and I suspect you are, then if it's a OneCore voice it's just another OneCore voice that can be used by anything that can use those.  And NVDA can.
 
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Re: New add-on (more toward an add-on feature package): Sound Splitter, split from Tony Malykh's Tony's Enhancements #addonrelease

Christopher Bartlett
 

Does this add-on support the functionality of having NVDA use a different sound source altogether than other sounds, such as if I want to have sound coming out speakers, but NVDA in headphones?  Or, does this functionality already exist?

Christopher Bartlett


On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:48 AM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:

Thanks both Tony and Joseph.


As I am using the original tony addon now, will this sound split conflict with tony's addon?


Joseph Lee 於 28/1/2022 16:29 寫道:

Hello everyone,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of a public preview of Sound Splitter, the latest of a series of add-on releases from yours truly. Before going further, I would like to take this time to acknowledge the hard work of Tony Malykh, who gave me and the NVDA add-ons community members the big idea behind this add-on and for originally developing the code that powers this add-on.

As the name implies, Sound Splitter lets you hear audio from NVDA and other programs on different audio channels. For example, with sound Splitter add-on installed and enabled, NVDA will be heard on the right audio channel while sounds from other programs will come through the left speaker. This is useful in apps such as Zoom where you need to hear what the app is saying while participating in meetings.

In case you didn’t catch it, Sound Splitter was originally part of Tony’s Enhancements add-on. Earlier this week a message was sent to NVDA add-ons community, informing members that there was a conflict between Tony’s Enhancements and NVDA Extension (global plugin) in regards to audio splitting functionality. After some discussion, Tony and the community agreed that it would be best to split audio splitter functionality into its own add-on, and the result is Sound Splitter add-on. As a result, feature set is identical with that of Tony’s Enhancements with a notable difference: Sound Splitter is configuration profile aware – that is, you can configure sound splitting feature differently for different profiles, including in app-specific profiles.

Sound Splitter 22.02 download link (to be queued for distribution on community add-ons website and is pending pre-distribution review from add-ons community): https://github.com/josephsl/soundSplitter/releases/download/22.02/soundSplitter-22.02.nvda-addon

NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and later

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • Although I have worked on splitting Sound Splitter from Tony’s Enhancements, please give credit to Tony Malykh as sound splitter code is his brainchild.
  • Sound Splitter 22.02 is the one and only planned release of this add-on from me so that I can fulfill the duty of a graduate student from this weekend onwards (school takes highest of highest of priorities). As a result, I won’t be able to resolve bugs or add features – there is a possibility that I will update this add-on to make it compatible with NVDA 2022.1, but that’s in the future.

Thank you (and a special thank you to Tony for his hard work on his add-ons).

P.S. Speaking of school, expect news on my other add-ons this weekend before I suspend add-on development for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph



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Re: New add-on (more toward an add-on feature package): Sound Splitter, split from Tony Malykh's Tony's Enhancements #addonrelease

 

Hi,

I expect there will be conflicts initially, but if Sound Splitter gains traction, things can change.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: New add-on (more toward an add-on feature package): Sound Splitter, split from Tony Malykh's Tony's Enhancements #addonrelease

William
 

Thanks both Tony and Joseph.


As I am using the original tony addon now, will this sound split conflict with tony's addon?


Joseph Lee 於 28/1/2022 16:29 寫道:

Hello everyone,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of a public preview of Sound Splitter, the latest of a series of add-on releases from yours truly. Before going further, I would like to take this time to acknowledge the hard work of Tony Malykh, who gave me and the NVDA add-ons community members the big idea behind this add-on and for originally developing the code that powers this add-on.

As the name implies, Sound Splitter lets you hear audio from NVDA and other programs on different audio channels. For example, with sound Splitter add-on installed and enabled, NVDA will be heard on the right audio channel while sounds from other programs will come through the left speaker. This is useful in apps such as Zoom where you need to hear what the app is saying while participating in meetings.

In case you didn’t catch it, Sound Splitter was originally part of Tony’s Enhancements add-on. Earlier this week a message was sent to NVDA add-ons community, informing members that there was a conflict between Tony’s Enhancements and NVDA Extension (global plugin) in regards to audio splitting functionality. After some discussion, Tony and the community agreed that it would be best to split audio splitter functionality into its own add-on, and the result is Sound Splitter add-on. As a result, feature set is identical with that of Tony’s Enhancements with a notable difference: Sound Splitter is configuration profile aware – that is, you can configure sound splitting feature differently for different profiles, including in app-specific profiles.

Sound Splitter 22.02 download link (to be queued for distribution on community add-ons website and is pending pre-distribution review from add-ons community): https://github.com/josephsl/soundSplitter/releases/download/22.02/soundSplitter-22.02.nvda-addon

NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and later

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • Although I have worked on splitting Sound Splitter from Tony’s Enhancements, please give credit to Tony Malykh as sound splitter code is his brainchild.
  • Sound Splitter 22.02 is the one and only planned release of this add-on from me so that I can fulfill the duty of a graduate student from this weekend onwards (school takes highest of highest of priorities). As a result, I won’t be able to resolve bugs or add features – there is a possibility that I will update this add-on to make it compatible with NVDA 2022.1, but that’s in the future.

Thank you (and a special thank you to Tony for his hard work on his add-ons).

P.S. Speaking of school, expect news on my other add-ons this weekend before I suspend add-on development for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: New add-on (more toward an add-on feature package): Sound Splitter, split from Tony Malykh's Tony's Enhancements #addonrelease

 

Hi,

The reason for calling this a public preview is because the add-on is being reviewed for wider community distribution.

Cheers,

Joseph


New add-on (more toward an add-on feature package): Sound Splitter, split from Tony Malykh's Tony's Enhancements #addonrelease

 

Hello everyone,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of a public preview of Sound Splitter, the latest of a series of add-on releases from yours truly. Before going further, I would like to take this time to acknowledge the hard work of Tony Malykh, who gave me and the NVDA add-ons community members the big idea behind this add-on and for originally developing the code that powers this add-on.

As the name implies, Sound Splitter lets you hear audio from NVDA and other programs on different audio channels. For example, with sound Splitter add-on installed and enabled, NVDA will be heard on the right audio channel while sounds from other programs will come through the left speaker. This is useful in apps such as Zoom where you need to hear what the app is saying while participating in meetings.

In case you didn’t catch it, Sound Splitter was originally part of Tony’s Enhancements add-on. Earlier this week a message was sent to NVDA add-ons community, informing members that there was a conflict between Tony’s Enhancements and NVDA Extension (global plugin) in regards to audio splitting functionality. After some discussion, Tony and the community agreed that it would be best to split audio splitter functionality into its own add-on, and the result is Sound Splitter add-on. As a result, feature set is identical with that of Tony’s Enhancements with a notable difference: Sound Splitter is configuration profile aware – that is, you can configure sound splitting feature differently for different profiles, including in app-specific profiles.

Sound Splitter 22.02 download link (to be queued for distribution on community add-ons website and is pending pre-distribution review from add-ons community): https://github.com/josephsl/soundSplitter/releases/download/22.02/soundSplitter-22.02.nvda-addon

NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and later

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • Although I have worked on splitting Sound Splitter from Tony’s Enhancements, please give credit to Tony Malykh as sound splitter code is his brainchild.
  • Sound Splitter 22.02 is the one and only planned release of this add-on from me so that I can fulfill the duty of a graduate student from this weekend onwards (school takes highest of highest of priorities). As a result, I won’t be able to resolve bugs or add features – there is a possibility that I will update this add-on to make it compatible with NVDA 2022.1, but that’s in the future.

Thank you (and a special thank you to Tony for his hard work on his add-ons).

P.S. Speaking of school, expect news on my other add-ons this weekend before I suspend add-on development for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22543

Chris Smart
 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: January 28, 2022 12:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22543

 

can you tell me the names of these voices

On 1/28/2022 12:04 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well it will be 1core so probably.

 

 

On 28/01/2022 4:59 pm, Chris Smart wrote:

I’m not running Windows 11 yet, but I noticed the latest Insider build includes new voices for Narrator. Will NVDA support these too?

More details at:

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/01/27/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22543/

 


Re: Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22543

Bobby <vinton.bobby@...>
 

can you tell me the names of these voices

On 1/28/2022 12:04 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well it will be 1core so probably.



On 28/01/2022 4:59 pm, Chris Smart wrote:

I’m not running Windows 11 yet, but I noticed the latest Insider build includes new voices for Narrator. Will NVDA support these too?

More details at:

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/01/27/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22543/

 


Re: Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22543

 

Well it will be 1core so probably.



On 28/01/2022 4:59 pm, Chris Smart wrote:

I’m not running Windows 11 yet, but I noticed the latest Insider build includes new voices for Narrator. Will NVDA support these too?

More details at:

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/01/27/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22543/

 


Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22543

Chris Smart
 

I’m not running Windows 11 yet, but I noticed the latest Insider build includes new voices for Narrator. Will NVDA support these too?

More details at:

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/01/27/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22543/

 


Re: NVDA Not Talking

Gene
 

Your experience may have been that speech was off but that is definitely not typical or expected behavior.  I can understand someone being skeptical, but at the same time, I think it is a good idea to check, just in case.  Odd and unexpected things can happen.  But if that were the typical behavior, there would be no end of complaints and questions from people who don't have speech.  NVDA should talk after installation.  Not to do so would make it inaccessible after installation.



Gene

On 1/27/2022 9:26 PM, Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:
What a relief, right? I hate to brag, but I sent those instructions on Tuesday evening. Right away, someone said I was wrong. And I guess you didn’t want to investigate anyway. Smile. You could have saved hours of frustration if you had trusted me. I had just gone through installing a new copy of NVDA and that is what steps I had to do. I even had a pair of working eyes helping me and that is what it said to do. I can’t help what used to be the protocol but I just followed what the computer said. Anyhow, glad to have you added to the working NVDA population. Marilyn

I have added below the Email I sent with the steps I took, so you can perhaps remember the post.
'''''''''''''''''

Nvda.nvda@groups.io
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

When NVDA first starts you are able to use Narrator to set up things. I found this out just days ago. The real problem once NVDA is installed is getting into the synthesizer settings and choose one you want and pick a voice. Then there are settings which you need to set before you get to the end and press OK
In actual use the setting for talking is set to none at start up until you tell it different. Good Luck.
Marilyn

Also, this message followed refuting my claim

uh? Mine came up talking, I did not need narrator to set it up once I ran the installer. I had one core for my synth upon installing nvda.


nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

Thanks so much to everyone, now sorted it.
Uninstalled NVDA, re-installed but still had the issue.
I Used Narrator while NVDA was running, used NVDA+CTRL+S, no speech was set and I had to change the synthesiser to ESpeak.
Now working like a charm, thanks again all!






NVDA Not Talking

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

What a relief, right? I hate to brag, but I sent those instructions on Tuesday evening. Right away, someone said I was wrong. And I guess you didn’t want to investigate anyway. Smile. You could have saved hours of frustration if you had trusted me. I had just gone through installing a new copy of NVDA and that is what steps I had to do. I even had a pair of working eyes helping me and that is what it said to do. I can’t help what used to be the protocol but I just followed what the computer said. Anyhow, glad to have you added to the working NVDA population. Marilyn

I have added below the Email I sent with the steps I took, so you can perhaps remember the post.
'''''''''''''''''

Nvda.nvda@groups.io

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

When NVDA first starts you are able to use Narrator to set up things. I found this out just days ago. The real problem once NVDA is installed is getting into the synthesizer settings and choose one you want and pick a voice. Then there are settings which you need to set before you get to the end and press OK
In actual use the setting for talking is set to none at start up until you tell it different. Good Luck.
Marilyn

Also, this message followed refuting my claim

uh? Mine came up talking, I did not need narrator to set it up once I ran the installer. I had one core for my synth upon installing nvda.


nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Talking

Thanks so much to everyone, now sorted it.
Uninstalled NVDA, re-installed but still had the issue.
I Used Narrator while NVDA was running, used NVDA+CTRL+S, no speech was set and I had to change the synthesiser to ESpeak.
Now working like a charm, thanks again all!


Re: Weird Editing Behaviour in Chrome and Edge?

Sarah k Alawami
 

This was already discussed a few weeks ago. I'm suffering this as well and can't wait for updates from the chromium side of things. It's a bit annoying but I can deal with it, for now.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:07 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Weird Editing Behaviour in Chrome and Edge?

NVDA stops reading entered text once you start typing, at least in search boxes like Google's and Youtube's. Is there reasoning behind this? I didn't see any updates to anything, it just started doing this a few days ago. Thanks!


Weird Editing Behaviour in Chrome and Edge?

Clement Chou
 

NVDA stops reading entered text once you start typing, at least in
search boxes like Google's and Youtube's. Is there reasoning behind
this? I didn't see any updates to anything, it just started doing this
a few days ago. Thanks!


Re: NVDA Not Talking

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  How did it get set to no speech, in case someone else comes across this?

Louise


Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Glenn,

I wrote a piece for In-Process just for you when we launched it: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-february-2020/#ScreenCurtain (OK not just for you, but it does address the exact question you are asking).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 8:55 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn



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Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Gene
 

I want to point out that I didn't think about all this in detail until the question was asked today.  I might look somewhere if I thought something was more likely to be there, but if it wasn't, then I would look other places.


Gene

On 1/27/2022 4:09 PM, Gene wrote:

It is often more efficient to look through the NVDA menus to find something like this.  Remember that you are not dealing with settings, as would generally be defined.  Settings are often preferences and that explains why settings is a submenu  in preferences.  You are not dealing with settings as generally defined.  but you are dealing with preferences.  It is a preference if you want to redefine a key.  So open the `NVBA main menu, then open preferences and down arrow through what is there.  You will find it.


I would imagine that it could be argued that these are settings, but however you think of them, you will generally find such things looking through menus and submenus. 


Another example is Manage Add-ons.  That is in the tools menu. 


I hope this discussion saves some or many people time when looking for things. 


Gene

On 1/27/2022 3:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn


Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Jackie
 

&, btw, if you go to the preferences > help menu > user guide (u) &
press enter, then search for input gestures, the link pops up on the
screen for you to activate. There's all sorts of info in there, & it's
a well-organized, well-thought out document, well worth consulting
IMO.

On 1/27/22, Jackie via groups.io <abletec@...> wrote:
Go to preferences > settings > input gestures. Expand the categories
treeview to see the various keys assigned w/right arrow, collapse it
w/left.

On 1/27/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to
the
input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing
on
how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign
a
shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if
there
was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.

Glenn






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Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Jackie
 

Go to preferences > settings > input gestures. Expand the categories
treeview to see the various keys assigned w/right arrow, collapse it
w/left.

On 1/27/22, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the
input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on
how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a
shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there
was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.

Glenn





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Re: Input Gesture Dialog

Gene
 

It is often more efficient to look through the NVDA menus to find something like this.  Remember that you are not dealing with settings, as would generally be defined.  Settings are often preferences and that explains why settings is a submenu  in preferences.  You are not dealing with settings as generally defined.  but you are dealing with preferences.  It is a preference if you want to redefine a key.  So open the `NVBA main menu, then open preferences and down arrow through what is there.  You will find it.


I would imagine that it could be argued that these are settings, but however you think of them, you will generally find such things looking through menus and submenus. 


Another example is Manage Add-ons.  That is in the tools menu. 


I hope this discussion saves some or many people time when looking for things. 


Gene

On 1/27/2022 3:54 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Hello,
I read through a bunch of the on-line NVDA help pages for how to get to the input gestures dialog.
There are dozens and dozens of references with links for it, but nothing on how to access it.
I turned on the screen curtain, which is what I want, but I want to assign a shortcut to turn it off if I need to.
I turned keyboard help and tried every key I could imagine to see if there was already a keyboard shortcut assigned, but could not find one.
I did not get an input gesture dialog when turning it on.
This is in windows 10.
Thanks for suggestions.
 
Glenn

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