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Re: copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

Jason Bratcher
 

Let's do the WinVer command since that's more consistent then even Office can be.
1. Type WinVer into the Windows+R (Run) dialog and tap Enter.
2. NVDA+NumPad dash to route focus to the current object.
(This is assuming a non-SpeechHistory addon user).
You'll be on an OK button.
3. Using object review with NVDA+NumPad 1, NVDA+NumPad 4 exactly 6 times to the Version string.
4. Do an NVDA+F9 right now. You should hear "start marked".
5. Use the NumPad 6 to reach the end of the string (going by words).
6. Use NumPad 3 to move to the last letter of the final word (or number).
7. Do an NVDA+F10 2 times (twice).
You should hear "copied to clipboard".
Now this can be pasted anywhere.
If you have it..., there's a slight yummy bonus with the SpeechHistory addon...
While on the Version part (or any other object text you needed), simply do NumPad 8.
Nvda just says the object proper with 0 interveening text.
I think it's an F12 to copy what was just spoken to clipboard.
I changed my copy keystroke to NVDA+Shift+C in the Input Gestures since I'm usually near the home row a lot while typing.
Again, this can be pasted, just like:
"Windows Security - Actions recommended."
"Type the name of a program, folder, document, or Internet resource, and Windows will open it for you."
"This task will be created with administrative privileges."
"The skies will be clear. The low will be 39°. Temperatures near freezing."

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Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Curtis Delzer
 

great and I am in total support of this since I endure this using NVDA and t-bird every day, several times per day.

On 2/9/2022 12:06 PM, Gene wrote:

I had created an issue about a week ago.  I have been somewhat preoccupied  recently and I forgot.  I'm sorry about the duplication.  I'm sure I checked before creating the first issue and didn't fine one. 

I'm sorry about the duplication.


I hope those interested in seeing this issue adopted go to the original issue page, register, and express support.  So far, the issue has gotten only one or perhaps two positive responses.  That doesn't mean the developers won't consider it, but they will be more likely to with meaningful support. 


You can see the topic here:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13293


Gene

On 2/9/2022 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Closed as a duplicate of an earlier issue raised by the same person. I beg you, please search for existing issues before filing a new one.

Cheers,

Joseph

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Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Gene
 

For some reason, a duplicate of my message was sent.  I didn't send it, just so people know.


Gene

On 2/9/2022 2:06 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I had created an issue about a week ago.  I have been somewhat preoccupied  recently and I forgot.  I'm sorry about the duplication.  I'm sure I checked before creating the first issue and didn't fine one. 

I'm sorry about the duplication.


I hope those interested in seeing this issue adopted go to the original issue page, register, and express support.  So far, the issue has gotten only one or perhaps two positive responses.  That doesn't mean the developers won't consider it, but they will be more likely to with meaningful support. 


You can see the topic here:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13293


Gene

On 2/9/2022 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Closed as a duplicate of an earlier issue raised by the same person. I beg you, please search for existing issues before filing a new one.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Gene
 

I had created an issue about a week ago.  I have been somewhat preoccupied  recently and I forgot.  I'm sorry about the duplication.  I'm sure I checked before creating the first issue and didn't fine one. 

I'm sorry about the duplication.


I hope those interested in seeing this issue adopted go to the original issue page, register, and express support.  So far, the issue has gotten only one or perhaps two positive responses.  That doesn't mean the developers won't consider it, but they will be more likely to with meaningful support. 


You can see the topic here:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13293


Gene

On 2/9/2022 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Closed as a duplicate of an earlier issue raised by the same person. I beg you, please search for existing issues before filing a new one.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA 2021.3.1 loses audio in Webex teams meeting

Brian Moore
 

Hi.  Yes, this used to happen to me to. It is a specific version of Webex which we don't have anymore but until we upgraded, I had to use either jaws or narrator in a webex meeting because that control for moving around a meeting didn't work with NVDA.


Cisco only tests with Jaws so they were no help.

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On 2022-02-09 1:20 p.m., Abby Apotheker wrote:

Hi folks,

 

I was working with a developer teammate who was trying to show me something using her NVDA screen reader, and when we were in Webex Teams (tried both a call and a personal room meeting), she was not able to get her screen reader to be audible.  I don’t mean that she had problems with the Webex audio features, I mean that even on her side, NVDA 2021.3.1 was not reading aloud.  She could not hear it.  We had to use the speech viewer option.  I am still on NVDA 2020.1 and did not have this problem.  Her screen reader had been working fine before we tried to have a meeting.

 

Does anyone know anything about this?  If yes, is there something she needs to do to make her screen reader audio work when in a Webex meeting?

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Janet Brandly
 

Hello,

 

I would really like to see this feature added to NVDA. The spellcheck in Word is slow and clunky and it now has an editing feature which I’m not sure how to disable. Window-Eyes used to use alt-period and alt-comma for this and it worked very well.

 

Janet

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 9, 2022 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

 

I have submitted this request as a Github issue.  Those interested in seeing how I ;present the issue and commenting may do so on this page:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13323

 

Gene

On 2/9/2022 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Put it on the github if it is not already there, otherwise that feature suggestion won’t exist, and it will get lost here. then those of us who are on ther can react with a thumbs up or down if we feel it is a priority for devs or not.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

 

Hi Gene,

 

This is another feature that JAWS already has, prior and next misspelling.

 

It’s a great feature.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 31 January 2022 01:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Opinions about a new feature

 

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 

 

My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.

 

I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.

 

Gene


NVDA 2021.3.1 loses audio in Webex teams meeting

Abby Apotheker
 

Hi folks,

 

I was working with a developer teammate who was trying to show me something using her NVDA screen reader, and when we were in Webex Teams (tried both a call and a personal room meeting), she was not able to get her screen reader to be audible.  I don’t mean that she had problems with the Webex audio features, I mean that even on her side, NVDA 2021.3.1 was not reading aloud.  She could not hear it.  We had to use the speech viewer option.  I am still on NVDA 2020.1 and did not have this problem.  Her screen reader had been working fine before we tried to have a meeting.

 

Does anyone know anything about this?  If yes, is there something she needs to do to make her screen reader audio work when in a Webex meeting?

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

 

Hi,

Closed as a duplicate of an earlier issue raised by the same person. I beg you, please search for existing issues before filing a new one.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Gene
 

I have submitted this request as a Github issue.  Those interested in seeing how I ;present the issue and commenting may do so on this page:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13323


Gene

On 2/9/2022 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Put it on the github if it is not already there, otherwise that feature suggestion won’t exist, and it will get lost here. then those of us who are on ther can react with a thumbs up or down if we feel it is a priority for devs or not.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

 

Hi Gene,

 

This is another feature that JAWS already has, prior and next misspelling.

 

It’s a great feature.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 31 January 2022 01:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Opinions about a new feature

 

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 

 

My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.

 

I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.

 

Gene


Re: copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

Sarah k Alawami
 

You can use object curser to go to the about section, interact with that with nvda shft down (laptop key) and press nvda shift o (ibid)  I think 3 times to copy the whole object, then edit as necessary when pasting it.  I do this all the time with nvda, and for windows, just use the resource monitor plugin and press nvda shift numrow 6 twice, then paste.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammed Al Shara
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 7:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

 

Hi.

Alright, how do I then copy the contents of an informational dialogue box like word count in the example above? or like the about windows found by running the winver command, etc.

Thanks.


Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Sarah k Alawami
 

Put it on the github if it is not already there, otherwise that feature suggestion won’t exist, and it will get lost here. then those of us who are on ther can react with a thumbs up or down if we feel it is a priority for devs or not.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

 

Hi Gene,

 

This is another feature that JAWS already has, prior and next misspelling.

 

It’s a great feature.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 31 January 2022 01:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Opinions about a new feature

 

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 

 

My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.

 

I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.

 

Gene


Re: copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

Gene
 

There is an add-on that allows you to do what you want without using the method we are discussing.  I'm not discussing the add-on to discourage you from learning about object navigation and screen review if you don't know how to do those things well.  If you would benefit or need to learn them then we can discuss those ways of movement and where to get information.  If you don't use them or know enough to meet your needs now, you may want to use the add-on.  I don't use it but you can download it and read about how to use it here:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html


There are various ways of moving.  You can move in screen revie


Gene

On 2/9/2022 9:38 AM, Mohammed Al Shara wrote:
Hi.

Alright, how do I then copy the contents of an informational dialogue box like word count in the example above? or like the about windows found by running the winver command, etc.

Thanks.


Re: copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

Mohammed Al Shara
 

Hi.

Alright, how do I then copy the contents of an informational dialogue box like word count in the example above? or like the about windows found by running the winver command, etc.

Thanks.


Re: Opinions about adding an NVDA feature to jump directly to misspelled words

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Gene,

 

This is another feature that JAWS already has, prior and next misspelling.

 

It’s a great feature.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 31 January 2022 01:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Opinions about a new feature

 

I was thinking today about a new feature that might speed up work a good deal when writing documents.  I generally don't use f7 spell check these days.  I read my messages before sending them and change flagged spelling errors, thus doing two things at once that I would do separately otherwise. 

 

My proposal for a new feature, which I'd like comments about in terms of demand and feasibility is this:

There could be an NVDA command that moves to the next flagged misspelled word in a document.  Even if I read a document and hear a word flagged, the cursor is almost never on the word.  Its often at the beginning of the line and the misspelled word may take a lot of movement by word to get to.  If I could hear the flag, then issue the move to command, moving to the word could be sped up a lot most of the time.   As I think about it, this adds the equivalent to what a sighted person can do now.  A word is flagged, the sighted person can immediately move to or click on it, thus placing focus on it, and either manually correct it or use the context menu to do so.  Or a sighted person can do so later by seeing the flag, clicking on it, and correcting the word.

 

I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed before.  I did a Google search and I didn't find a Github issue, though I didn't search Github directly.

 

Gene


Re: copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

Jason Bratcher
 

1. That's NVDA+F9 to drop the text start marker.
2. Then move to the end of the text (only with) Object nav word and letter commands;
3. Finally, NVDA+F10 two times at the last character of text you want to copy.
(Think it only works on a one-object basis
(You Can Not Copy text from Multiple Objects)).
Not that I've seen anyway).

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Re: NVDA OCR and Captia

Aravind R
 

i am using cloud vision for solving captcha in cibil websight which is
essential.
mostly itss working well. some times i have to try around 5 times to
get it right.
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On 09/02/2022, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Try the following below there is a video and you will  need the add on
as well.


*Solving  captcha with nvda

The following tutorial was done by VI Techability

One of the problems that we face on the internet is specially solving
the image captcha. Here I am posting a video that I have made regarding
solving captcha using NVDA.
solving captcha using nvda. The you tube video can be found at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqoSBK5S3-E
The add on that was used was called cloud vision.
The link to it from my drop box is
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5yeh66auegnjm50/CloudVision-3.0.0.0.nvda-addon?dl=0

Gene nz




On 9/02/2022 8:10 pm, Ketan Kothari wrote:
Hello friends,

I throught there was some discussion on solving captia using NVDA but
I am unable to find it. Is there a way of solving it please?

Thank you.

Warmly,

Ketan





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Re: NVDA OCR and Captia

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Try the following below there is a video and you will  need the add on as well.


*Solving  captcha with nvda

The following tutorial was done by VI Techability

One of the problems that we face on the internet is specially solving the image captcha. Here I am posting a video that I have made regarding solving captcha using NVDA.
solving captcha using nvda. The you tube video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqoSBK5S3-E
The add on that was used was called cloud vision.
The link to it from my drop box is https://www.dropbox.com/s/5yeh66auegnjm50/CloudVision-3.0.0.0.nvda-addon?dl=0

Gene nz

On 9/02/2022 8:10 pm, Ketan Kothari wrote:
Hello friends,

I throught there was some discussion on solving captia using NVDA but
I am unable to find it. Is there a way of solving it please?

Thank you.

Warmly,

Ketan


Re: NVDA OCR and Captia

Luke Robinett
 

These days I find that most captchas include the option of an audio challenge. Beyond that, I'm unsure how NVDA could solve traditional image captchas considering they are designed specifically to require a human to make sense of them visually. It's definitely a bummer when you come across that rare site that doesn't provide an audio alternative, but I find this is uncommon anymore.

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA OCR and Captia

Hello friends,

I throught there was some discussion on solving captia using NVDA but I am unable to find it. Is there a way of solving it please?

Thank you.

Warmly,

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NVDA OCR and Captia

Ketan Kothari
 

Hello friends,

I throught there was some discussion on solving captia using NVDA but
I am unable to find it. Is there a way of solving it please?

Thank you.

Warmly,

Ketan

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Re: copy with review cursor, are there limitations?

Gene
 

Also, you are not using the review cursor.  You are using object navigation.  The review cursor sees no information where you are working.


Gene

On 2/9/2022 12:36 AM, Gene wrote:

You are using the wrong procedure.  Press f9 at the start of what you want to copy.  Move to the end and press f10 twice.  You didn't set the start marker.  Also, as I recall, this method of copying must be done within the same object.  If you set the start marker in one object and then move to another object, my recollection is that you will get an error message about that.  I don't think that you should generally have this problem and I don't know if you ever have it in review mode as opposed to object navigation mode.


Gene

On 2/8/2022 11:30 PM, Mohammed Al Shara wrote:
Steps to repro:
1. open word, navigate to the status bar using f6 press the button for word  count, using the  review cursor, navigate to the letter s in "statistics".
2. Using the  review cursor navigate to near the end of the dialogue box where the number  of lines is found, if the document is empty then it's 0.
3. now press f10 twice to copy the statistic info.
4. NVDA says start marker is not set. I expected that The info I selected would be copied to the clipboard instead.

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