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Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

Thanks for the help.


I have scanned my system this week so I don't think it would be anything like that.


My wife who is sighted will be home shortly so I will have her watch and see what is going on.


Dan Beaver


On 10/7/2016 2:29 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

          I get nothing that announces "Alert" when I navigate through to that page and I did not interrupt NVDA speech at all to be certain that I didn't cut this off before it might have occurred.  At first I had an operating theory that it might be ads that are creating these alerts, but even when I turned off Adblock Plus I still do not get them on that page when it loads in the latest version of Chrome (v 53.0.2785.143 m).

          If you have not scanned your machine recently with a malware detector such as Malwarebytes and/or a spyware detector such as Super AntiSpyware I would suggest you do so.  I had fully expected to hear what you're hearing and have visual elements popping up that correspond to same, but am not.  Just the generic nature of the message, "Alert," makes me wonder if you might have an infection of some kind.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

Dan,

          I get nothing that announces "Alert" when I navigate through to that page and I did not interrupt NVDA speech at all to be certain that I didn't cut this off before it might have occurred.  At first I had an operating theory that it might be ads that are creating these alerts, but even when I turned off Adblock Plus I still do not get them on that page when it loads in the latest version of Chrome (v 53.0.2785.143 m).

          If you have not scanned your machine recently with a malware detector such as Malwarebytes and/or a spyware detector such as Super AntiSpyware I would suggest you do so.  I had fully expected to hear what you're hearing and have visual elements popping up that correspond to same, but am not.  Just the generic nature of the message, "Alert," makes me wonder if you might have an infection of some kind.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Disability Question For US Presidential Candidates and ScreenReader User Voting Tips To Access Voting

Laurie Mehta
 

Anyone using this list has already expressed an interest in quality of life for people with disabilities, so this is shared for US list members' information.
Begin forward
We all should vote
to insist that the candidates are asked about disabilities. We as a
collective group have been conspicuously absent from the discussion. Please
read on and then vote. The next presidential debate is scheduled for October 9, and the moderators
from ABC and CNN have agreed to consider including the top 30 questions
voted on by the public as a part of the debate. One of the question being
considered is, "How would you value people with disabilities in your
presidency." It is currently ranked at number 75. We would like to move it
into the top 30 so that it might be included. Please vote for this question,
and share this information with people in your network.

Below are helpful instructions for screen reader users-- below the links.

<https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/7313/vote/>

https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/7313/vote

***This will help with the vote on the disability question for the presidential candidates-- please read...

Forwarded Message:
This gives some good instructions  for help voting for this. And they’ve already contacted the site owners about the problems some people are having. Maybe this will help some. Feel free to share.
 
A website called PresidentialOpenQuestions.com is accepting ideas for questions to be asked of the two major party presidential candidates  in the upcoming televised debates. Users of the site can also vote on submitted questions that they would like for the candidates to be asked. CNN and ABC, the networks hosting the final two presidential debates, have agreed to consider the top thirty questions voted upon by the public for inclusion in the debates. One of the questions being heavily promoted relates specifically to disability rights and reads as follows: How would you value disability rights in your presidency? It is currently among the top sixty questions, out of some ten thousand submitted.
While the wording of this question is broad, it is better than no question related to people with disabilities at all. We should engage in every effort we can to get the candidates to talk about how blind people and others with disabilities will be enabled to live the lives we want under their administrations. Some members have therefore circulated the question and website address to various lists, and it was promoted yesterday on our official NFB social media channels.
That said, we have since learned that members who have attempted to vote have experienced usability and accessibility issues with the site, and its behavior is inconsistent. While some of us have voted for the question successfully with little difficulty, others have been unable to do so. We have contacted the owners of the site to urge them to fix these issues and to point out that the votes of tens of thousands of blind people are being lost while they remain unresolved. However, since some of us have been able to complete the process, and if that fact encourages you to try voting for the question, you might have the best experience by following these steps:
1. Click the Register link near the top of the page and then, on the next screen, create your account.
2. As part of creating your account, you will have to check a box that says “I'm not a robot."  When you check that box, you may or may not be asked to solve one or more captchas. If you are asked to solve captchas, there will be an opportunity for you to click a button that says "Get an audio challenge," or you may receive a captcha that simply asks you a question to which you must check the correct answer.
After answering the challenge, click the "verify" button. You will hear "verified";
then click the button marked "create account".
3. Once you have successfully registered, go to the "disability question" and vote. Here's the direct link:
https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/7313/vote
4. When you have voted successfully, the word "voted" will appear above the question's text, along with the total number of votes that the question has received; this is how you will know your vote has been counted.
I hope that many of you are able to vote successfully, and again we have let the site owners know that they can and should make it much easier for blind users to vote on their site.

-LM


Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

On 10/7/2016 12:56 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

OK, but still, can you give one or two webpages?  It's much easier for me to play with this using NVDA and the fact that I can also see what's happening to come to a possible solution.

I fire up NVDA "on demand" when questions like this arise.  Not having to look for a specific example of what you're referring to by a brute force search is helpful to me.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

OK, but still, can you give one or two webpages?  It's much easier for me to play with this using NVDA and the fact that I can also see what's happening to come to a possible solution.

I fire up NVDA "on demand" when questions like this arise.  Not having to look for a specific example of what you're referring to by a brute force search is helpful to me.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

I am just asking if there is a way to read the alerts no matter what page they occur on.  Is this possible with NVDA and chrome?  It is starting to happen on multiple sites but not all sites.


Dan Beaver


On 10/7/2016 12:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
When you open any website or certain websites?  If the latter, could you share which one(s)?
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

When you open any website or certain websites?  If the latter, could you share which one(s)?
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


More Chrome struggles.


I am now getting the statement "alert" spoken multiple times when I open a website. How do I read those alerts using NVDA? I can't seem to find a way.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

 

hi.
thanks for your guide.
is it freeware?

On 10/7/16, Paolo Leva <paolo.leva@...> wrote:
the only SAPI compatible product including the Acapela voices is infovox4.
If you have infovox4 you'll be able to use it with both NVDA and Balabolka,
plus any other SAPI compatible program or screen-reader.

http://www.acapela-group.com/infovox/ (
http://www.acapela-group.com/infovox/ )
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

Paolo Leva
 

the only SAPI compatible product including the Acapela voices is infovox4. If you have infovox4 you'll be able to use it with both NVDA and Balabolka, plus any other SAPI compatible program or screen-reader.

http://www.acapela-group.com/infovox/



Re: entering data in Firefox

 

only remove adobe flash and java from your browser.
it helps you to protect your security very much!

On 10/7/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
thanks so much that you experienced my issues and gave useful
informations on this.
please test also nvda with firefox as i mentioned before.


On 10/7/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes I cannot get Firefox 49 to run on any machine with an old Athlon or
similar processor, only 48 will work. On Intel single core machines it
seems that 49 is going to be the last and even this is quite slow.
I've not tried 50 on dual cores running xp, but it should be checked by
anyone using nvda snaps that it will still work on version 48 on xp
machines

to keep compatibility going and any funny effects reported in an nvda
ticket

or at the very least on the dev list with full details of course.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] entering data in Firefox


hi again.
i am sure that firefox is secure even its old versions!
and i think that firefox stops supporting of xp in the next release.
but about nvda 2016.3 and firefox, please first uninstall nvda, second
delete its settings from appdata and then registry.
in this case, its very far if you can use nvda with firefox!
it works only with internet explorer.
if i update nvda from the version for example 2016.1 or 2015.4 to
2016.3 there is no problem.
because nvda uses the profile of its previous versions!
the only problem is with fresh install as i mentioned.
i did not test 2016.2.1 so please test in this version with fresh install
too!

On 10/6/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Brian,

It's not that I doubt what you, or others, have been saying but
unless someone can give steps to reliably replicate a problem or
websites

on
which it is reliably replicated it's going to be well-nigh-impossible to
fix.

I'm having no problems with NVDA 2016.3 and Firefox 49.0.1,
which really makes it impossible for me to figure out any possible
solution
unless I can replicate an issue.

What follows, and I've offered it before, is general advice:
If/when you start getting weird behaviors in any web browser it's a very
good idea to clear all browser cache. It doesn't solve all problems, but
cache corruption triggers many bizarre issues and clearing it at least
eliminates cache corruption as a possible cause.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: browser not keeping passwords and ids

Chris Mullins
 

Have a look at the suggestions here

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/taZ7UhxvTHc


Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: 6 October 2016 18:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browser not keeping passwords and ids

Hi,


Yep, I already did all of that. If I open the settings again it still shows the password check box checked.


Any other ideas?


Dan Beaver
On 10/6/2016 12:27 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi
In chrome, press alt then spacebar then the letter s to open the settings page. Press control+end to go to the bottom of the page where you will find the 'show advanced settings' button. Press enter on this then tab through the controls. You will find a checkbox entitled 'Offer to save your web passwords' which you should check. That's all you need to do initially but if you tab to the next control, you will find a link where you can manage passwords once you have set them up. Press control+w to close the settings page.

HTH
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: 6 October 2016 13:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browser not keeping passwords and ids

Hi,


I have turned off this in my browsers in the past but now I want to turn it on again. I have been using Firefox but am moving to Chrome.

When I open a site and it asks for the id and password I have to enter
it each time. It does not prompt me to save them or update them. I
have turned this on in the browsers but it doesn't seem to be taking any
effect.


I looked through settings for windows 10 but do not see any settings
that would allow or prevent this from happening either.


I am using the latest update of both Firefox and Chrome.


Any ideas what I can look at to fix this?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver








Re: entering data in Firefox

 

thanks so much that you experienced my issues and gave useful
informations on this.
please test also nvda with firefox as i mentioned before.

On 10/7/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes I cannot get Firefox 49 to run on any machine with an old Athlon or
similar processor, only 48 will work. On Intel single core machines it
seems that 49 is going to be the last and even this is quite slow.
I've not tried 50 on dual cores running xp, but it should be checked by
anyone using nvda snaps that it will still work on version 48 on xp machines

to keep compatibility going and any funny effects reported in an nvda ticket

or at the very least on the dev list with full details of course.
Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] entering data in Firefox


hi again.
i am sure that firefox is secure even its old versions!
and i think that firefox stops supporting of xp in the next release.
but about nvda 2016.3 and firefox, please first uninstall nvda, second
delete its settings from appdata and then registry.
in this case, its very far if you can use nvda with firefox!
it works only with internet explorer.
if i update nvda from the version for example 2016.1 or 2015.4 to
2016.3 there is no problem.
because nvda uses the profile of its previous versions!
the only problem is with fresh install as i mentioned.
i did not test 2016.2.1 so please test in this version with fresh install
too!

On 10/6/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Brian,

It's not that I doubt what you, or others, have been saying but
unless someone can give steps to reliably replicate a problem or websites

on
which it is reliably replicated it's going to be well-nigh-impossible to
fix.

I'm having no problems with NVDA 2016.3 and Firefox 49.0.1,
which really makes it impossible for me to figure out any possible
solution
unless I can replicate an issue.

What follows, and I've offered it before, is general advice:
If/when you start getting weird behaviors in any web browser it's a very
good idea to clear all browser cache. It doesn't solve all problems, but
cache corruption triggers many bizarre issues and clearing it at least
eliminates cache corruption as a possible cause.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: entering data in Firefox

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes I cannot get Firefox 49 to run on any machine with an old Athlon or similar processor, only 48 will work. On Intel single core machines it seems that 49 is going to be the last and even this is quite slow.
I've not tried 50 on dual cores running xp, but it should be checked by anyone using nvda snaps that it will still work on version 48 on xp machines to keep compatibility going and any funny effects reported in an nvda ticket or at the very least on the dev list with full details of course.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] entering data in Firefox


hi again.
i am sure that firefox is secure even its old versions!
and i think that firefox stops supporting of xp in the next release.
but about nvda 2016.3 and firefox, please first uninstall nvda, second
delete its settings from appdata and then registry.
in this case, its very far if you can use nvda with firefox!
it works only with internet explorer.
if i update nvda from the version for example 2016.1 or 2015.4 to
2016.3 there is no problem.
because nvda uses the profile of its previous versions!
the only problem is with fresh install as i mentioned.
i did not test 2016.2.1 so please test in this version with fresh install too!

On 10/6/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Brian,

It's not that I doubt what you, or others, have been saying but
unless someone can give steps to reliably replicate a problem or websites on
which it is reliably replicated it's going to be well-nigh-impossible to
fix.

I'm having no problems with NVDA 2016.3 and Firefox 49.0.1,
which really makes it impossible for me to figure out any possible solution
unless I can replicate an issue.

What follows, and I've offered it before, is general advice:
If/when you start getting weird behaviors in any web browser it's a very
good idea to clear all browser cache. It doesn't solve all problems, but
cache corruption triggers many bizarre issues and clearing it at least
eliminates cache corruption as a possible cause.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Attention from the Captain: Changes to Group #adminnotice

Brian's Mail list account
 

Its not just lists, its a general problem with hacked address books of some people.It seems some nasty is getting past most of the anti malware programs at the moment.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention from the Captain: Changes to Group #adminnotice


Hi,

This change also affects other groups, as I've received an email from Groups.io telling me that a similar change has been forced on a NVDA group I administered.


Re: Attention from the Captain: Changes to Group #adminnotice

Brian's Mail list account
 

I have not noticed too many of these spams in other lists, but do feel that there has been an increase mainly due to some new worm which some people seem to get that posts spam to the address book held offline as well as online. I think it needs to be said that until we know what this is and how one gets it, as obviously its getting past many anti virus programs, when you moderate, an no email needs to be sent to the person posting about it.
I've already had to inform a number of my friends who have sent such emails to me and other places.
I'd think I'd like to know if I had such a nasty on my machine even if I could not actually detect it at the moment.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Attention from the Captain: Changes to Group #adminnotice


Hello,

Due to spam concerns with groups.io, a change is being implemented to this
group You will not be affected, however any new members will be moderated
until they post once and we are able to determine that they are not going
to spam this list. I hope that this will help all of us have a smooth,
relaxing and delightful experience on this list.

Please resume all activities. If anything else should come up, I will
provide you updates.

Nimer J, List Owner


Re: entering data in Firefox

 

hi again.
i am sure that firefox is secure even its old versions!
and i think that firefox stops supporting of xp in the next release.
but about nvda 2016.3 and firefox, please first uninstall nvda, second
delete its settings from appdata and then registry.
in this case, its very far if you can use nvda with firefox!
it works only with internet explorer.
if i update nvda from the version for example 2016.1 or 2015.4 to
2016.3 there is no problem.
because nvda uses the profile of its previous versions!
the only problem is with fresh install as i mentioned.
i did not test 2016.2.1 so please test in this version with fresh install too!

On 10/6/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Brian,

            It's not that I doubt what you, or others, have been saying but
unless someone can give steps to reliably replicate a problem or websites on
which it is reliably replicated it's going to be well-nigh-impossible to
fix.

            I'm having no problems with NVDA 2016.3 and Firefox 49.0.1,
which really makes it impossible for me to figure out any possible solution
unless I can replicate an issue.

            What follows, and I've offered it before, is general advice:
 If/when you start getting weird behaviors in any web browser it's a very
good idea to clear all browser cache.  It doesn't solve all problems, but
cache corruption triggers many bizarre issues and clearing it at least
eliminates cache corruption as a possible cause.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If
you’re alive, it isn’t.*

   ~ Lauren Bacall
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Attention from the Captain: Changes to Group #adminnotice

 
Edited

Hi,

This change also affects other groups, as I've received an email from Groups.io telling me that a similar change has been forced on the NVDA Thailand group I administered.


Re: Unsubscrib

Gene
 

Toward the bottom of every message are a number of commands.  Look for the unsubscribe command.  If you have problems following it and doing what is necessary, let us know. 
 
Gene

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