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Re: trouble downloading add on

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi Arlene,
 
Thank you for your kind words.  We didn’t get hit as hard as the news said.  All is well in my corner of the world.
 

From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble downloading add on
 

Oh no! Is everything okay? I seen this on my Canadian news.  I’m glad you went to your sister’s house for some time.  I know this is not a chat list. Sorry you were hit with Hurricane Matthew. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: October-07-16 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble downloading add on

 

Hi Gene,

 

I’m sorry I didn’t reply sooner.  I was hit with hurricane Mathew and had to go to my sisters house. 

I just can’t seem to get the ocr and place marker files downloaded.  I did as you suggested but, still no luck.

 

From: Gene New Zealand

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:58 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble downloading add on

 

Hi

 

Is that from off the main add on page? that is where the add ons are but link to another page where the add on is. You will need to go to that page to get it.

 

There will be a stable version of it as well as a developers version.

 

Depending which browser you are using you could try any of the following.

 

While on the link you can use the letter K to jump down to the stable version then either press the enter key on it. It then might give you the option to open or save it. in most cases you would save it to some where easy to locate it on your pc. for example desktop. Then you would locate the add on press the enter key on it and say yes to it 2 times to install it.

 

Or the other way is while on the link, use the context key in either internet exploder or mozilla fire fox arrow down to either save target as in internet exploder or save link as in mozilla fire fox thenpress the enter key.

The dialogue box will come up so you can save the add on to your pc. Make sure you note where you are saving the add on to. for example the desk top, then locate it after it is on the desktop then press the enter key on it to install it.

say yes to it 2 times for it to be installed.

 

hope this helps.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 6/10/2016 7:02 AM, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

 

I am trying to download a few add ons one is the ocr and the other is the place marker.  I go to the add on manager and tab to get add on I then go to the one I want and hit enter.  It doesn’t get downloaded.  What can I be doing wrong?  Thanks for any help.  Regards, Gary kn4ox



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WeatherPlus Zipcodes

Andrea Sherry
 

Where can I obtain a file containing a list of these codes?

It seems from the documentation that I can import this information to the addon from a file.

Any assistance appreciated.

Cheers

Andrea


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Re: trouble downloading add on

Arlene
 

Oh no! Is everything okay? I seen this on my Canadian news.  I’m glad you went to your sister’s house for some time.  I know this is not a chat list. Sorry you were hit with Hurricane Matthew. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: October-07-16 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble downloading add on

 

Hi Gene,

 

I’m sorry I didn’t reply sooner.  I was hit with hurricane Mathew and had to go to my sisters house. 

I just can’t seem to get the ocr and place marker files downloaded.  I did as you suggested but, still no luck.

 

From: Gene New Zealand

Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:58 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble downloading add on

 

Hi

 

Is that from off the main add on page? that is where the add ons are but link to another page where the add on is. You will need to go to that page to get it.

 

There will be a stable version of it as well as a developers version.

 

Depending which browser you are using you could try any of the following.

 

While on the link you can use the letter K to jump down to the stable version then either press the enter key on it. It then might give you the option to open or save it. in most cases you would save it to some where easy to locate it on your pc. for example desktop. Then you would locate the add on press the enter key on it and say yes to it 2 times to install it.

 

Or the other way is while on the link, use the context key in either internet exploder or mozilla fire fox arrow down to either save target as in internet exploder or save link as in mozilla fire fox thenpress the enter key.

The dialogue box will come up so you can save the add on to your pc. Make sure you note where you are saving the add on to. for example the desk top, then locate it after it is on the desktop then press the enter key on it to install it.

say yes to it 2 times for it to be installed.

 

hope this helps.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 6/10/2016 7:02 AM, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

 

I am trying to download a few add ons one is the ocr and the other is the place marker.  I go to the add on manager and tab to get add on I then go to the one I want and hit enter.  It doesn’t get downloaded.  What can I be doing wrong?  Thanks for any help.  Regards, Gary kn4ox



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Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: Titanium Internet Security -

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't heard of it.

On 10/7/2016 2:10 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hello everyone,
Is anyone familiar with Titanium Internet Security and does it work with NVDA?
Your response will be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil


Re: trouble downloading add on

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi Gene,
 
I’m sorry I didn’t reply sooner.  I was hit with hurricane Mathew and had to go to my sisters house. 
I just can’t seem to get the ocr and place marker files downloaded.  I did as you suggested but, still no luck.
 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble downloading add on
 

Hi

 

Is that from off the main add on page? that is where the add ons are but link to another page where the add on is. You will need to go to that page to get it.

 

There will be a stable version of it as well as a developers version.

 

Depending which browser you are using you could try any of the following.

 

While on the link you can use the letter K to jump down to the stable version then either press the enter key on it. It then might give you the option to open or save it. in most cases you would save it to some where easy to locate it on your pc. for example desktop. Then you would locate the add on press the enter key on it and say yes to it 2 times to install it.

 

Or the other way is while on the link, use the context key in either internet exploder or mozilla fire fox arrow down to either save target as in internet exploder or save link as in mozilla fire fox thenpress the enter key.

The dialogue box will come up so you can save the add on to your pc. Make sure you note where you are saving the add on to. for example the desk top, then locate it after it is on the desktop then press the enter key on it to install it.

say yes to it 2 times for it to be installed.

 

hope this helps.

 

Gene nz

 


On 6/10/2016 7:02 AM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi All,
 
I am trying to download a few add ons one is the ocr and the other is the place marker.  I go to the add on manager and tab to get add on I then go to the one I want and hit enter.  It doesn’t get downloaded.  What can I be doing wrong?  Thanks for any help.  Regards, Gary kn4ox

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Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Gene
 

I have popups off and I still had alert spoken when I played audio on a Youtube page.  There was no commercial played so my speculation appears to be wrong.  Whatever is generating the word alert to be spoken either isn't a commercial that can be skipped or there are more causes.  There may be something about the popup that is causing the word to be spoken but I don't think it is the popup itself.  It may be some structure or content in the popup.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Chrome and alerts

I don't know what a sighted person may or may not see when alert is spoken.  I seldom use Chrome.  But on the rare occasions when I've used it on Youtube, I've heard "alert" spoken when on a Youtube page where something was going to be streamed.  My speculation was that it might be telling me that I could skip the commercial if I wished.  This would have to be tested to see when alert may or may not be heard. 
 
This definitely is not related to an update.  I heard this months ago and not as a general announcement when using Chrome. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan,

            Please do report back with the final result as far as cause and fix.

            One other thing just struck me, could it be that you have an update to Chrome itself waiting?  They recently replaced the conventional hamburger/pancake stack menu key with one that looks like three dots in a vertical column.  When Chrome goes into "I need to be restarted to apply an update" mode for me there is nothing announced but the menu key itself will change color, which serves as an alert.  Try hitting ALT to throw focus on to the menu key and see if that doesn't potentially give you something.

             I'm really curious as to what this is, since it seems to be attached more to your Chrome browser than specific webpages, at least on the whole.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Titanium Internet Security -

 

Hello everyone,
Is anyone familiar with Titanium Internet Security and does it work with NVDA?
Your response will be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil


Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Gene
 

I don't know what a sighted person may or may not see when alert is spoken.  I seldom use Chrome.  But on the rare occasions when I've used it on Youtube, I've heard "alert" spoken when on a Youtube page where something was going to be streamed.  My speculation was that it might be telling me that I could skip the commercial if I wished.  This would have to be tested to see when alert may or may not be heard. 
 
This definitely is not related to an update.  I heard this months ago and not as a general announcement when using Chrome. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan,

            Please do report back with the final result as far as cause and fix.

            One other thing just struck me, could it be that you have an update to Chrome itself waiting?  They recently replaced the conventional hamburger/pancake stack menu key with one that looks like three dots in a vertical column.  When Chrome goes into "I need to be restarted to apply an update" mode for me there is nothing announced but the menu key itself will change color, which serves as an alert.  Try hitting ALT to throw focus on to the menu key and see if that doesn't potentially give you something.

             I'm really curious as to what this is, since it seems to be attached more to your Chrome browser than specific webpages, at least on the whole.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

Dan,

          Thanks for completing the circle with the information about the pop-up blocking feature not being active.  Someone else will almost certainly have this same problem sooner or later and it's helpful to have one likely problem-solution pair.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dejan Ristic
 

I've just opened the same page, and nothing of the sort occurred. I expected to hear 'Alert' pronounced, but it did not come up, for I wished to catch up with it via Objpad. Sorry for saying the same.


On 10/7/2016 8:29 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

          I get nothing that announces "Alert" when I navigate through to that page and I did not interrupt NVDA speech at all to be certain that I didn't cut this off before it might have occurred.  At first I had an operating theory that it might be ads that are creating these alerts, but even when I turned off Adblock Plus I still do not get them on that page when it loads in the latest version of Chrome (v 53.0.2785.143 m).

          If you have not scanned your machine recently with a malware detector such as Malwarebytes and/or a spyware detector such as Super AntiSpyware I would suggest you do so.  I had fully expected to hear what you're hearing and have visual elements popping up that correspond to same, but am not.  Just the generic nature of the message, "Alert," makes me wonder if you might have an infection of some kind.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    






Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

Hi, I was just about to send this so here it is:


It turns out that I did not have popups turned off like I thought I had.  My wife said a popup was showing up at the bottom of the screen but to NVDA it was just showing as a graphic with an x link below it.  The x link dismisses the popup.   This behavior is different than Firefox so that is why I didn't notice it.


Now that popups are truly off I am not hearing the alert message at all.


Thanks again.


Dan Beaver


On 10/7/2016 3:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

            Please do report back with the final result as far as cause and fix.

            One other thing just struck me, could it be that you have an update to Chrome itself waiting?  They recently replaced the conventional hamburger/pancake stack menu key with one that looks like three dots in a vertical column.  When Chrome goes into "I need to be restarted to apply an update" mode for me there is nothing announced but the menu key itself will change color, which serves as an alert.  Try hitting ALT to throw focus on to the menu key and see if that doesn't potentially give you something.

             I'm really curious as to what this is, since it seems to be attached more to your Chrome browser than specific webpages, at least on the whole.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dejan Ristic
 

What I can say is, try using an add-on called Objpad to see whether it can help you.

On 10/7/2016 6:17 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Hi,


More Chrome struggles.


I am now getting the statement "alert" spoken multiple times when I open a website. How do I read those alerts using NVDA? I can't seem to find a way.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver



.


Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

Dan,

            Please do report back with the final result as far as cause and fix.

            One other thing just struck me, could it be that you have an update to Chrome itself waiting?  They recently replaced the conventional hamburger/pancake stack menu key with one that looks like three dots in a vertical column.  When Chrome goes into "I need to be restarted to apply an update" mode for me there is nothing announced but the menu key itself will change color, which serves as an alert.  Try hitting ALT to throw focus on to the menu key and see if that doesn't potentially give you something.

             I'm really curious as to what this is, since it seems to be attached more to your Chrome browser than specific webpages, at least on the whole.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

Thanks for the help.


I have scanned my system this week so I don't think it would be anything like that.


My wife who is sighted will be home shortly so I will have her watch and see what is going on.


Dan Beaver


On 10/7/2016 2:29 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

          I get nothing that announces "Alert" when I navigate through to that page and I did not interrupt NVDA speech at all to be certain that I didn't cut this off before it might have occurred.  At first I had an operating theory that it might be ads that are creating these alerts, but even when I turned off Adblock Plus I still do not get them on that page when it loads in the latest version of Chrome (v 53.0.2785.143 m).

          If you have not scanned your machine recently with a malware detector such as Malwarebytes and/or a spyware detector such as Super AntiSpyware I would suggest you do so.  I had fully expected to hear what you're hearing and have visual elements popping up that correspond to same, but am not.  Just the generic nature of the message, "Alert," makes me wonder if you might have an infection of some kind.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

Dan,

          I get nothing that announces "Alert" when I navigate through to that page and I did not interrupt NVDA speech at all to be certain that I didn't cut this off before it might have occurred.  At first I had an operating theory that it might be ads that are creating these alerts, but even when I turned off Adblock Plus I still do not get them on that page when it loads in the latest version of Chrome (v 53.0.2785.143 m).

          If you have not scanned your machine recently with a malware detector such as Malwarebytes and/or a spyware detector such as Super AntiSpyware I would suggest you do so.  I had fully expected to hear what you're hearing and have visual elements popping up that correspond to same, but am not.  Just the generic nature of the message, "Alert," makes me wonder if you might have an infection of some kind.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Disability Question For US Presidential Candidates and ScreenReader User Voting Tips To Access Voting

Laurie Mehta
 

Anyone using this list has already expressed an interest in quality of life for people with disabilities, so this is shared for US list members' information.
Begin forward
We all should vote
to insist that the candidates are asked about disabilities. We as a
collective group have been conspicuously absent from the discussion. Please
read on and then vote. The next presidential debate is scheduled for October 9, and the moderators
from ABC and CNN have agreed to consider including the top 30 questions
voted on by the public as a part of the debate. One of the question being
considered is, "How would you value people with disabilities in your
presidency." It is currently ranked at number 75. We would like to move it
into the top 30 so that it might be included. Please vote for this question,
and share this information with people in your network.

Below are helpful instructions for screen reader users-- below the links.

<https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/7313/vote/>

https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/7313/vote

***This will help with the vote on the disability question for the presidential candidates-- please read...

Forwarded Message:
This gives some good instructions  for help voting for this. And they’ve already contacted the site owners about the problems some people are having. Maybe this will help some. Feel free to share.
 
A website called PresidentialOpenQuestions.com is accepting ideas for questions to be asked of the two major party presidential candidates  in the upcoming televised debates. Users of the site can also vote on submitted questions that they would like for the candidates to be asked. CNN and ABC, the networks hosting the final two presidential debates, have agreed to consider the top thirty questions voted upon by the public for inclusion in the debates. One of the questions being heavily promoted relates specifically to disability rights and reads as follows: How would you value disability rights in your presidency? It is currently among the top sixty questions, out of some ten thousand submitted.
While the wording of this question is broad, it is better than no question related to people with disabilities at all. We should engage in every effort we can to get the candidates to talk about how blind people and others with disabilities will be enabled to live the lives we want under their administrations. Some members have therefore circulated the question and website address to various lists, and it was promoted yesterday on our official NFB social media channels.
That said, we have since learned that members who have attempted to vote have experienced usability and accessibility issues with the site, and its behavior is inconsistent. While some of us have voted for the question successfully with little difficulty, others have been unable to do so. We have contacted the owners of the site to urge them to fix these issues and to point out that the votes of tens of thousands of blind people are being lost while they remain unresolved. However, since some of us have been able to complete the process, and if that fact encourages you to try voting for the question, you might have the best experience by following these steps:
1. Click the Register link near the top of the page and then, on the next screen, create your account.
2. As part of creating your account, you will have to check a box that says “I'm not a robot."  When you check that box, you may or may not be asked to solve one or more captchas. If you are asked to solve captchas, there will be an opportunity for you to click a button that says "Get an audio challenge," or you may receive a captcha that simply asks you a question to which you must check the correct answer.
After answering the challenge, click the "verify" button. You will hear "verified";
then click the button marked "create account".
3. Once you have successfully registered, go to the "disability question" and vote. Here's the direct link:
https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/7313/vote
4. When you have voted successfully, the word "voted" will appear above the question's text, along with the total number of votes that the question has received; this is how you will know your vote has been counted.
I hope that many of you are able to vote successfully, and again we have let the site owners know that they can and should make it much easier for blind users to vote on their site.

-LM


Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

On 10/7/2016 12:56 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

OK, but still, can you give one or two webpages?  It's much easier for me to play with this using NVDA and the fact that I can also see what's happening to come to a possible solution.

I fire up NVDA "on demand" when questions like this arise.  Not having to look for a specific example of what you're referring to by a brute force search is helpful to me.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

OK, but still, can you give one or two webpages?  It's much easier for me to play with this using NVDA and the fact that I can also see what's happening to come to a possible solution.

I fire up NVDA "on demand" when questions like this arise.  Not having to look for a specific example of what you're referring to by a brute force search is helpful to me.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

Dan Beaver
 

I am just asking if there is a way to read the alerts no matter what page they occur on.  Is this possible with NVDA and chrome?  It is starting to happen on multiple sites but not all sites.


Dan Beaver


On 10/7/2016 12:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
When you open any website or certain websites?  If the latter, could you share which one(s)?
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: NVDA and Chrome and alerts

 

When you open any website or certain websites?  If the latter, could you share which one(s)?
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall