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Re: Zoom oddities

Bob Cavanaugh
 

On second thought, I just got out of a Zoom meeting and it read as it
used to, so maybe this was already fixed in the latest NVDA version. I
still want an answer to my other question though, that's the really
frustrating one.

On 3/17/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
I got a new computer for Christmas, and was running the latest version
on both this one and my new one. I can't remember the version that
was, you might be able to look that up. I'm now running 2021.3.4, but
just updated to that today, so haven't been in a Zoom meeting with
that version yet. I am not running the Zoom Enhancements addon.

On 3/17/22, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

1. When I enter a meeting, NVDA used to say "you are in the meeting
hosted by (name) with # participants." Now it says "you are in the
meeting hosted by %F with %D participants."
Are you using the Zoom Enhancements add-on?

If so, try running with it disabled, and see if you still get this. If
you
don't, then please report it to them.
Also, you didn't say what version of NVDA you're running (insert+n, h,
a),
or
how long ago (I.E. under which earlier version of NVDA) this worked.

I do not believe this format error stems from NVDA core; the NVDA built
in
Zoom
appModule doesn't touch that area of Zoom output.

Luke











Re: Version 22.03/22.03.1 of Joseph Lee's add-ons: mandatory security updates #addonrelease

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi Joseph,

I have NVDA v. 2021.3.4 and do not plan to use the new beta version. Do I need to install the add on updater or windows app essentials versions that you’ve been telling us about in this thread?

 

Thanks,

LM

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Version 22.03/22.03.1 of Joseph Lee's add-ons: mandatory security updates #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Update 1: Add-on Updater 22.03.1 is now available. This is a mandatory (manual for now) update for anyone wishing to test NVDA 2022.1 beta 1 (INSTALL Add-on Updater 22.03.1 BEFORE INSTALLING NVDA 2022.1 beta 1!): https://github.com/josephsl/addonUpdater/releases/download/22.03/addonUpdater-22.03.1.nvda-addon

After installing this release:

  1. DO NOT DOWNGRADE TO 22.03 or earlier!
  2. Hold off on installing other add-on updates (manually or automatically) until I give the green light to do so.

There will be two more updates:

  1. An announcement that you can now upgrade rest of my add-ons.
  2. A virtual goodbye ceremony for five of my add-ons as I am officially ending maintenance for them as of this very moment.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Zoom oddities

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I got a new computer for Christmas, and was running the latest version
on both this one and my new one. I can't remember the version that
was, you might be able to look that up. I'm now running 2021.3.4, but
just updated to that today, so haven't been in a Zoom meeting with
that version yet. I am not running the Zoom Enhancements addon.

On 3/17/22, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

1. When I enter a meeting, NVDA used to say "you are in the meeting
hosted by (name) with # participants." Now it says "you are in the
meeting hosted by %F with %D participants."
Are you using the Zoom Enhancements add-on?

If so, try running with it disabled, and see if you still get this. If you
don't, then please report it to them.
Also, you didn't say what version of NVDA you're running (insert+n, h, a),
or
how long ago (I.E. under which earlier version of NVDA) this worked.

I do not believe this format error stems from NVDA core; the NVDA built in
Zoom
appModule doesn't touch that area of Zoom output.

Luke







Re: Zoom oddities

Luke Davis
 

Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

1. When I enter a meeting, NVDA used to say "you are in the meeting
hosted by (name) with # participants." Now it says "you are in the
meeting hosted by %F with %D participants."
Are you using the Zoom Enhancements add-on?

If so, try running with it disabled, and see if you still get this. If you don't, then please report it to them.
Also, you didn't say what version of NVDA you're running (insert+n, h, a), or how long ago (I.E. under which earlier version of NVDA) this worked.

I do not believe this format error stems from NVDA core; the NVDA built in Zoom appModule doesn't touch that area of Zoom output.

Luke


Re: NVDA and Go to Meeting

Betsy Grenevitch
 

No. I did not know if there was a work-around already. If it is all graphics as my daughter says I am not sure there is a work-around.



Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876

----- Original Message -----
From: ely.r@...
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2022 06:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Go to Meeting

Betsy,
Have you reported this to NVDA support?
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 1:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Go to Meeting
I rarely use go to Meeting but now am having to use it on at least a monthly basis. Is there a way to get NVDA to work with it so you can find the buttons such as mute and unmute? My daughter says they are all graphics. Thanks.
--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: Version 22.03/22.03.1 of Joseph Lee's add-ons: mandatory security updates #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Update 1: Add-on Updater 22.03.1 is now available. This is a mandatory (manual for now) update for anyone wishing to test NVDA 2022.1 beta 1 (INSTALL Add-on Updater 22.03.1 BEFORE INSTALLING NVDA 2022.1 beta 1!): https://github.com/josephsl/addonUpdater/releases/download/22.03/addonUpdater-22.03.1.nvda-addon

After installing this release:

  1. DO NOT DOWNGRADE TO 22.03 or earlier!
  2. Hold off on installing other add-on updates (manually or automatically) until I give the green light to do so.

There will be two more updates:

  1. An announcement that you can now upgrade rest of my add-ons.
  2. A virtual goodbye ceremony for five of my add-ons as I am officially ending maintenance for them as of this very moment.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Zoom oddities

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Hi all,
Well, I'm back on the list with a question after about 15 months of
relatively trouble free use of NVDA. Actually I have two concerns
regarding Zoom:
1. When I enter a meeting, NVDA used to say "you are in the meeting
hosted by (name) with # participants." Now it says "you are in the
meeting hosted by %F with %D participants."
2. I was trying to set up a meeting to recur on the third Saturday of
the month, but couldn't figure out how to do it. A friend of mine runs
a recurring meeting on the first Saturday of the month, and she can
have the meeting dates displayed in the invitation, but when I try to
set up a recurring meeting, my meetings always come up as "this is a
recurring meeting, meet anytime." She is using JAWS. Does anyone know
if I can access the recurring meeting function within Zoom using NVDA?
Thanks,
Bob


Re: Version 22.03/22.03.1 of Joseph Lee's add-ons: mandatory security updates #addonrelease

 

Hi,

To update other add-ons. In fact, you'll see a good use of Add-on Updater very soon (coming up next).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: acapela and codefactory add-ons and latest snapshot

Luke Davis
 

mattias wrote:

Are the acapela and codefactory add-ons incompatible again?!
With stable NVDA? No, they shouldn't be. With alphas (snapshots)? Of course they will be incompatible.

It is no surprise, that if you are running alphas, add-ons will become incompatible. Don't panic or be shocked about that.
You are running software that is not ready for public use, so it is to be expected that add-ons are not ready for it.

Run the latest published version (2021.3.4), if you want everything to keep working.

Even when the NVDA beta comes out, add-ons will still be getting ready. In fact, they can't even start publishing new releases that support new NVDA, *until* the first beta of the year comes out.

Luke


Re: Can't Upgrade While Using RDP

Christopher Duffley
 

If you're referring to Microsoft Remote Desktop, yes, about 99% of it or so is very accessible with NVDA! The best way to disconnect a machine that's on an NVDARemote connection, however, is to use a Disconnect RDP.bat file that I can send a link to for the Machine being controlled. This is because if you don't use this file disconnect almost every other way, the NVDARemote connection will freeze in terms of sending commands to the machine.

Christopher Duffley
Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971

12 Pro Max

On Mar 17, 2022, at 19:03, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Russell James wrote:

I used to be able to upgrade NVDA while using RDP.

Perhaps I am behind the times, but my understanding was that RDP was not accessible--That it was, in fact, entirely graphical.
Have I missed an important change?

If not, and it is still entirely inaccessible, how did you used to do this?

Luke






Re: Can't Upgrade While Using RDP

Christopher Duffley
 

If you're using the NVDARemote add-on, that will be your best bet. That's how I did it on my dedicated server out of St. Louis with Server4You. That's the only way, besides RDP, that I can control my machine.

Christopher Duffley
Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971

12 Pro Max

On Mar 17, 2022, at 18:51, Russell James <4rjames@...> wrote:


Greetings,

The memories are fading it has been so long...
I used to be able to upgrade NVDA while using RDP.

However, with the 2021.3.4 upgrade this is not possible.

Russ


Re: Can't Upgrade While Using RDP

Luke Davis
 

Russell James wrote:

I used to be able to upgrade NVDA while using RDP.
Perhaps I am behind the times, but my understanding was that RDP was not accessible--That it was, in fact, entirely graphical.
Have I missed an important change?

If not, and it is still entirely inaccessible, how did you used to do this?

Luke


Can't Upgrade While Using RDP

Russell James
 

Greetings,

The memories are fading it has been so long...
I used to be able to upgrade NVDA while using RDP.

However, with the 2021.3.4 upgrade this is not possible.

Russ


Re: NVDA and Go to Meeting

ely.r@...
 

Betsy,
Have you reported this to NVDA support?
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 1:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Go to Meeting

I rarely use go to Meeting but now am having to use it on at least a monthly basis. Is there a way to get NVDA to work with it so you can find the buttons such as mute and unmute? My daughter says they are all graphics. Thanks.

--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: Version 22.03/22.03.1 of Joseph Lee's add-ons: mandatory security updates #addonrelease

farhan israk
 

If I need to update addons manually then why am I using addon updater?


On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, 5:32 pm Joseph Lee, <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hello NVDA users community,

I understand the subject line may look strange, but it will become clear as you read this announcement:

In a few hours I will release version 22.03 of my add-ons (manual mandatory updates), followed by 22.03.1 which will make my add-ons compatible with upcoming NVDA 2022.1 changes. It is likely that 22.03.1, scheduled to be released the day after NVDA 2022.1 beta 1 is released, will be the one showing up on Add-on Updater and on community add-ons website (I will update this thread once that happens).

 

Three important notes:

  • You may notice that I’m talking about two add-on versions: 22.03 and 22.03.1. Originally I was planning to release 22.03 as soon as upcoming NVDA 2022.1 beta 1 was released. However, I have received a private report last week detailing the fact that parts of some add-ons will continue to function if NVDA is running in secure screens. Further, after checking my add-ons, I have discovered at least two security issues that can cause problems: commands that can open a web browser to a specific site then allowing users to browse somewhere else, and creating and writing files other than NVDA configuration file. Because at least two add-ons I maintain had both issues present, I decided to check other add-ons and work on solutions throughout the weekend. While doing so, a potential issue was discovered that could affect system settings, and at least one add-on was affected. The result is 22.03 security update for my add-ons (mandatory). Because NV Access is working on NVDA 2022.1 at the moment, I decided to prioritize security rather than wait for 2022.1 beta 1 to be released, therefore the two releases. In short, both 22.03 and 22.03.1 will be identical apart from NVDA compatibility (more on that below); if Add-on Updater offers what appears to be an older version of add-ons, ignore this, or you can turn off automatic add-on updates until I say go ahead and upgrade when Add-on Updater offers these releases (likely 22.03.1).
  • As I announced a few days ago, I’m ending support for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 from my add-ons soon. In preparation for that, I hereby declare that 22.03/22.03.1 will be the final release(s) to support old Windows releases. I strongly urge you to upgrade to Windows 10, or if your system is ready, to Windows 11 unless you are in a situation where an upgrade can’t be performed (corporate domain, for example).
  • A while ago I announced that I’m about to end maintenance for most of my add-ons. I thought 22.01 (January 2022) will be the final releases, but since no-one has stepped up to maintain them, I decided to provide a one last release so add-ons can be made compatible with upcoming NVDA changes. But then security issues came up, so in a way I’m dividing this last release into two parts: 22.03 and 22.03.1, a security release compatible with NVDA 2021.3 and a follow-up release compatible with 2022.1 changes, respectively; I expect no changes between these two releases apart from add-on manifests, hence my statement of identical releases abov. To users of Enhanced Touch Gestures, GoldWave, Resource Monitor, Sound Splitter, and StationPlaylist, I would like to take this time to say thank you from bottom of my heart for all your feedback while I maintained these add-ons. My final day as a maintainer of these add-ons will be a week after NVDA 2022.1 beta 1 is released so I can prepare these add-ons to end support for older Windows releases before handing the add-on to the community for further maintenance.

 

One more thing: I will update this thread when version 22.03 of my add-ons are ready for download.

 

Changelog:

 

All add-ons:

  • NVDA 2021.3 or later is required. I strongly urge everyone to upgrade to 2021.3.3 if possible.
  • Version 22.03.x will be the final releases to support Windows 7 SP1, 8, and 8.1 with three exceptions: Add-on Updater, Sound Splitter, and Windows App Essentials. If you haven’t, I urge you to upgrade to Windows 10, or if compatible, to Windows 11 unless you are in a situation where you can’t do so.

 

Security:

  • The following add-ons will be disabled completely if NVDA is running in secure screens: Add-on Updater, Sound Splitter, StationPlaylist. These add-ons can access the web, read and write files other than NVDA configuration database, and change system settings, with the first two being high security risks.

 

Windows compatibility:

  • As noted above, most of my add-ons will end support for older Windows releases. A message will be displayed when installing version 22.03/22.03.1 of the following add-ons: Enhanced Touch Gestures, GoldWave, Resource Monitor, StationPlaylist.

 

Add-on Updater:

  • Because the add-on will be disabled completely in secure screens, Add-on Updater will not check for updates for add-ons installed in secure screen copy of NVDA.

 

Resource Monitor and Sound Splitter:

  • Psutil dependency was updated to 5.9.0.

 

Sound Splitter:

  • Changed sound splitter toggle command (Alt+NVDA+S) to toggle between NVDA on the right channel, on the left channel, or sound splitter disabled.

 

StationPlaylist:

  • This is the last version to support Studio suite 5.30.
  • It is no longer possible to perform the following commands if NVDA is running in secure mode: all SPL Controller layer commands, switching to Studio from other programs, obtaining Studio status and encoder status from other programs.
  • It is no longer possible to copy track comments to the clipboard or add or change comments if NVDA is running in secure mode.
  • It is no longer possible to copy playlist transcripts to clipboard or save it to a file if NVDA is running in secure mode. Only viewing transcripts will be allowed in secure mode.
  • To improve security, online user guide command from SPL Assistant (Shift+F1) has been removed.
  • It is no longer possible to create, copy, rename, delete, or configure instant switch status for broadcast profiles if NVDA is running in secure mode.
  • It is no longer possible to configure advanced add-on settings or reset settings to defaults from add-on settings screen if NVDA is running in secure mode.
  • In Studio, NVDA will no longer do nothing or play error tones if attempting to obtain playlist snapshots (SPL Assistant, F8) if the loaded playlist consists only of hour markers.
  • In Creator 6.0, NVDA will no longer appear to do nothing when one of the columns explorer column is "Date Restriction" as the column has been renamed to "Restrictions".

 

Windows App Essentials:

  • Various features and fixes that were included with the add-on are now part of NVDA. These include announcing search suggestion count in apps such as Settings and Microsoft Store and "pane" no longer being announced when switching between apps in Windows 11.
  • Installing and using the add-on on Windows Insider Preview builds between 20348 (Server 2022) and 22000 (Windows 11) is no longer supported.
  • Removed the warning message when installing the add-on on Windows Server systems as the add-on is better optimized for Windows 10/11 client systems.
  • Removed deprecated XAML heading detection feature.
  • Removed the debug tone heard when UIA notification events come from background apps when debug log is on. Use Event Tracker add-on to debug UIA notification events.
  • Removed Start menu size announcement workaround as it is no longer heard in recent Windows 10 releases.
  • UIA drag drop effect property event is now tracked.
  • More information is announced when arranging Start menu tiles or Action center quick actions with Alt+Shift+arrow keys such as potential location of the dragged tile and placement of Action center quick action.
  • Calculator: NvDA will announce results when more commands are performed such as pressing equals (=) key and performing operations in scientific calculator mode such as trigonometric operations.
  • Maps: Removed street side view workaround as it is no longer applicable in recent app releases.
  • Modern keyboard: In Windows 11 clipboard history, browse mode will be turned off by default, designed to let NVDA announce clipboard history entry menu items.
  • Settings: In Windows 10, update history items no longer include installation status to align with Windows 11.

 

This thread will be updated when:

  • Version 22.03 of these add-ons are ready for download (manual update)
  • NVDA 2022.1 beta 1 is released, and subsequently, version 22.03.1 of these add-ons are released
  • Add-on updates are showing on Add-on Updater

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and Go to Meeting

Richard Kuzma
 

Good afternoon,
I use go to meeting on occasion and am using jaws here and am dead in the water once I join the meeting,
So would guess nvda is no good either, but never tried with it.
Don’t forget there is always the option to call into the meeting via phone and that would give you access to the stuff via your phone keypad.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 1:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Go to Meeting

I rarely use go to Meeting but now am having to use it on at least a monthly basis. Is there a way to get NVDA to work with it so you can find the buttons such as mute and unmute? My daughter says they are all graphics. Thanks.

--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


NVDA and Go to Meeting

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I rarely use go to Meeting but now am having to use it on at least a monthly basis. Is there a way to get NVDA to work with it so you can find the buttons such as mute and unmute? My daughter says they are all graphics. Thanks.

--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Task Bar - Running Applications - After upgrade 2021.3.4

Russell James
 

Greetings,

I think this happened after the previous update as well...

When I upgraded to 2021.3.4 my running applications in the task bar go silent using mouse over the icons.
The icons to the left are spoken but all I get when using the mouse over the running application icons is a generic "running applications" response.

When I restart the problem is resolved.

Russ


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

 

Hi,

By the way, when you do release a ClipSpeak version compatible with upcoming NVDA 2022.1, please do two things: inform the add-ons list about the new maintainer, and post the repo somewhere (these days, GitHub); these two tasks are required, especially the second task (since the previous maintainer posted the source code in GitHub).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

Rui Fontes
 

Thanks!

It was already corrected.


Rui Fontes


Às 16:17 de 17/03/2022, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,

Without going into details (because it is quite technical here), there is a line of code near the top of the file where everything from a module is imported which is considered bad practice in Python programming community.

Cheers,

Joseph

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