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Re: Clipspeak add-on for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


As I said, except if specified in the add-on code, any add-on works in Windows 7, 8, 10 or 11...

So, the add-on I am modifying, works in all flavours of Windows supported by NVDA version in use.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 18:46 de 18/03/2022, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

Good Afternoon:  Is this running in Windows 10 or in Windows 10 and 11?

Dave


On 3/17/2022 9:10 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


First, a gentle request...

Do not use idiomatic expressions, since many readers have not english as his primary language...


Regarding the copy/paste announcement, Jaws and System Access have it...

Regarding key commands, Narrator have a nice implementation...


Rui Fontes


Às 23:05 de 16/03/2022, Brian Vogel escreveu:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 06:59 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Many people, as myself, have quit asking this feature because NV Access is tottally against it...
-
I am not naïve, and I understand where you're coming from, but you and others like you do need to consider that "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" may apply in situations like this.

I can't say that you have done this, but many "quit squeaking" far, far, far to early on.

For virtually any software, a large and long enough outcry from the user community has a tendency to effect change.

All of the above having been said, I also understand that, after a certain point, the desire to keep on fighting just dies out.

It's funny, but as someone who is sighted, and who has worked with screen reader users for some time, I never even think about having cut/copy/paste speak what's being cut, copied, or pasted, as that should have been a part of the selection process.  Mind you, confirmation that a cut/copy/paste command has been issued is handy, and at the moment I can't remember which screen reader(s) do this confirmation announcement by default.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 


Re: Clipspeak add-on for NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  Is this running in Windows 10 or in Windows 10 and 11?

Dave


On 3/17/2022 9:10 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


First, a gentle request...

Do not use idiomatic expressions, since many readers have not english as his primary language...


Regarding the copy/paste announcement, Jaws and System Access have it...

Regarding key commands, Narrator have a nice implementation...


Rui Fontes


Às 23:05 de 16/03/2022, Brian Vogel escreveu:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 06:59 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Many people, as myself, have quit asking this feature because NV Access is tottally against it...
-
I am not naïve, and I understand where you're coming from, but you and others like you do need to consider that "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" may apply in situations like this.

I can't say that you have done this, but many "quit squeaking" far, far, far to early on.

For virtually any software, a large and long enough outcry from the user community has a tendency to effect change.

All of the above having been said, I also understand that, after a certain point, the desire to keep on fighting just dies out.

It's funny, but as someone who is sighted, and who has worked with screen reader users for some time, I never even think about having cut/copy/paste speak what's being cut, copied, or pasted, as that should have been a part of the selection process.  Mind you, confirmation that a cut/copy/paste command has been issued is handy, and at the moment I can't remember which screen reader(s) do this confirmation announcement by default.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 


Re: Task Bar - Running Applications - After upgrade 2021.3.4

Monte Single
 

Hi Quinton,

 

I have been wonderin about the march 4 thing for months.  Thanks for clarifying my fog!

 

Cheers,

 

Mont

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: March 17, 2022 11:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Task Bar - Running Applications - After upgrade 2021.3.4

 

David,

 

NVDA 2021.3.4 is the latest version of NVDA, it only came out yesterday.  The problem is many synthesizers, and OneCore does it now too, try to interpret it as a date.  It is supposed to be read as "Twenty-Twenty One point three, point four" - it is the fourth minor point release of the third major version of 2021.

 

We might have to look at doing something different with the version numbering.  And yes, now we've got that patch release out the way, we're about to release 2022.1 Beta 1, so keep an eye out for that in the next few days.

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:48 PM David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:

Why are you sending an old update for an older version of nvda?  I’m not sure what this is  all about.  Thank you.



On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:05 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

 

Please restart the PC.  Nothing in NVDA 2021.3.4 should change anything other than the security issue noted.  We have encountered with updates, that often things can behave a little odd after updating and before restarting the PC, so please try that and let us know how it works.

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 3:58 AM Russell James <4rjames@...> wrote:

Greetings,

 

I think this happened after the previous update as well...

 

When I upgraded to 2021.3.4 my running applications in the task bar go silent using mouse over the icons.

The icons to the left are spoken but all I get when using the mouse over the running application icons is a generic "running applications" response.

 

When I restart the problem is resolved.

 

Russ

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I too appreciate what Joseph has done for the NVDA community. I wish him all the best in his furthering his education.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

 

Hi:  I have to agree with you as well.  Joseph has given more than he needed to, for everyone else help.  He needs to give more time to his own needs.  Everyone has their own live.  I think it is time to give more to help his education in order to move on and be happy in his own life.  Hopeful he will have happy times ahead in life.

Dave

 

On 3/16/2022 6:07 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

I need to move on

-
Joseph,

I say the following with sincerity and deep appreciation for what you have done for the NVDA community:  Indeed you do!

You have a life outside of the NVDA Community to live, you have given more to the community, unpaid, than anyone else I know.  You've done your time, and you have done everything in your power to make your exit and orderly one, starting months ago.

So, go forth and prosper!  Let go.  It's OK, and that's whether anyone else, including myself, thinks so. You don't need to sacrifice your own life as well as future happiness and success on the altar of NVDA.  You've done plenty!
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, some corrections:

1 - The add-on, like majority of NVDA, is writen in Python;

2 - The Python version is independent of Windows 10 or 11;

3 - The code changes needed results from some modifications in NVDA code;

4 - I am testing my modifications with Gene and not only;

5 - Maybe next week I already have a version ready to a more broader text...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 17:25 de 18/03/2022, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

Hi Jean:  I was not speaking of language as English or Spanish.  I was speaking of language, as to what computer coded language, such as the c language or Piethon language, which are understood by the computer and it would depend on the version for the computer language to be compatible with NVDA as well as the application and the OS or Windows.  This does depend on whether it is Windows 10 or Windows 11 for this matter.

Dave


On 3/16/2022 2:42 PM, Gene wrote:

I don't know how it was updated.  It may have just been that the manifest was changed.  It may be the same as the version on the NVDA official Add-ons page except for that change.  I don't know if there is any language specification in the program.  It may speak in English regardless of what language your screen-reader is set to but the language being used may have nothing to do with how the add-on works. 

If you want to read a description of the add-on before it was updated, you can do so here:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html


The add-on information discusses the language being used by the computer but only in terms of compatibility of short cut keys.  As you will see, how the add-on determines if something is done has nothing to do with language.


Gene

On 3/16/2022 12:57 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Hi Jean:  How resent has this other application been updated?  Again, is this an add on to NVDA?  If so, what version of the language is it written in?  That  might help know whether it is going to be compatible with the current version, and upcoming versions of NVDA.

Dave


On 3/16/2022 1:44 PM, Gene wrote:

If that happens, as I believe I discussed here recently, there is another add-on that has a lot more features that performs this function.  However, before people install it, they should carefully read the discussion of the features on the add-on the add-on's web site.  Some changes, perhaps many, are performed automatically when the add-on becomes active and I don't know if they are reverted if the add-on is disabled or uninstalled.


Others may know.  If they are reverted, the care I am recommending may not matter nearly so much since the changes would be very easily undone, but since I don't know, I think people should be aware of what may be changed.


Gene

On 3/16/2022 12:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 01:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Since I've only seen two complaints, I don't have any reason to believe there is a compatibility problem.  Nothing works correctly on all systems. Perhaps it is prone to not work properly on a small number more systems than the previous version, but until I see more complaints, I will remain skeptical that there is a general compatibility problem.
-
And I have to say that I agree with you here, and not just in the context of this add-on.

People really need to understand, and accept, that because they're having an issue when many others aren't it's far more likely to be a problem that lies with their own computing ecosystem, and is idiosyncratic to it, rather than being a global issue.

This particular tweaked version has been "making the rounds" for quite a while now, and there has been no substantial number of reports, as a proportion of those who've used it, that there is a functional compatibility issue.  There have been a few, but a few among many doesn't mean "incompatible" in any meaningful sense of that word.

However, Luke is right that probably sooner, rather than later, there is going to be a "permanent breakage" in compatibility without someone taking this add-on over since the original developer formally stated that they are through with it many months ago.  If no one does step up to that proverbial plate, then the add-on should effectively be considered dead when the "permanent breakage" occurs.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 


Re: Zoom oddities

Shawn
 

This is a new thing with the newest zoom, and I think it does it with jaws as well, but not positive.

Shawn Klein

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom oddities

 

I got a new computer for Christmas, and was running the latest version

on both this one and my new one. I can't remember the version that

was, you might be able to look that up. I'm now running 2021.3.4, but

just updated to that today, so haven't been in a Zoom meeting with

that version yet. I am not running the Zoom Enhancements addon.

 

On 3/17/22, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

> Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

>> 1. When I enter a meeting, NVDA used to say "you are in the meeting

>> hosted by (name) with # participants." Now it says "you are in the

>> meeting hosted by %F with %D participants."

> Are you using the Zoom Enhancements add-on?

> If so, try running with it disabled, and see if you still get this. If you

> don't, then please report it to them.

> Also, you didn't say what version of NVDA you're running (insert+n, h, a),

> or

> how long ago (I.E. under which earlier version of NVDA) this worked.

> I do not believe this format error stems from NVDA core; the NVDA built in

> Zoom

> appModule doesn't touch that area of Zoom output.

> Luke

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

Dave Grossoehme
 

Hi:  I have to agree with you as well.  Joseph has given more than he needed to, for everyone else help.  He needs to give more time to his own needs.  Everyone has their own live.  I think it is time to give more to help his education in order to move on and be happy in his own life.  Hopeful he will have happy times ahead in life.

Dave


On 3/16/2022 6:07 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 03:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
I need to move on
-
Joseph,

I say the following with sincerity and deep appreciation for what you have done for the NVDA community:  Indeed you do!

You have a life outside of the NVDA Community to live, you have given more to the community, unpaid, than anyone else I know.  You've done your time, and you have done everything in your power to make your exit and orderly one, starting months ago.

So, go forth and prosper!  Let go.  It's OK, and that's whether anyone else, including myself, thinks so. You don't need to sacrifice your own life as well as future happiness and success on the altar of NVDA.  You've done plenty!
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

Dave Grossoehme
 

Hi Jean:  I was not speaking of language as English or Spanish.  I was speaking of language, as to what computer coded language, such as the c language or Piethon language, which are understood by the computer and it would depend on the version for the computer language to be compatible with NVDA as well as the application and the OS or Windows.  This does depend on whether it is Windows 10 or Windows 11 for this matter.

Dave


On 3/16/2022 2:42 PM, Gene wrote:

I don't know how it was updated.  It may have just been that the manifest was changed.  It may be the same as the version on the NVDA official Add-ons page except for that change.  I don't know if there is any language specification in the program.  It may speak in English regardless of what language your screen-reader is set to but the language being used may have nothing to do with how the add-on works. 

If you want to read a description of the add-on before it was updated, you can do so here:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html


The add-on information discusses the language being used by the computer but only in terms of compatibility of short cut keys.  As you will see, how the add-on determines if something is done has nothing to do with language.


Gene

On 3/16/2022 12:57 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Hi Jean:  How resent has this other application been updated?  Again, is this an add on to NVDA?  If so, what version of the language is it written in?  That  might help know whether it is going to be compatible with the current version, and upcoming versions of NVDA.

Dave


On 3/16/2022 1:44 PM, Gene wrote:

If that happens, as I believe I discussed here recently, there is another add-on that has a lot more features that performs this function.  However, before people install it, they should carefully read the discussion of the features on the add-on the add-on's web site.  Some changes, perhaps many, are performed automatically when the add-on becomes active and I don't know if they are reverted if the add-on is disabled or uninstalled.


Others may know.  If they are reverted, the care I am recommending may not matter nearly so much since the changes would be very easily undone, but since I don't know, I think people should be aware of what may be changed.


Gene

On 3/16/2022 12:32 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 01:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Since I've only seen two complaints, I don't have any reason to believe there is a compatibility problem.  Nothing works correctly on all systems. Perhaps it is prone to not work properly on a small number more systems than the previous version, but until I see more complaints, I will remain skeptical that there is a general compatibility problem.
-
And I have to say that I agree with you here, and not just in the context of this add-on.

People really need to understand, and accept, that because they're having an issue when many others aren't it's far more likely to be a problem that lies with their own computing ecosystem, and is idiosyncratic to it, rather than being a global issue.

This particular tweaked version has been "making the rounds" for quite a while now, and there has been no substantial number of reports, as a proportion of those who've used it, that there is a functional compatibility issue.  There have been a few, but a few among many doesn't mean "incompatible" in any meaningful sense of that word.

However, Luke is right that probably sooner, rather than later, there is going to be a "permanent breakage" in compatibility without someone taking this add-on over since the original developer formally stated that they are through with it many months ago.  If no one does step up to that proverbial plate, then the add-on should effectively be considered dead when the "permanent breakage" occurs.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 


Re: Clipspeak Interfering with Clipboard and Other Functions

Gene
 

Here is a correction about the Global Commands Extensions add-on and portable versions.  I said very recently that the Global Commands Extensions add-on doesn't work fully in portable versions of NVDA.  That appears not to be true.  I haven't tested it again because I'm not sure if it will change settings I don't want changed, it does so many things.  And I don't know if everything changed is reverted if I uninstall the add-on.  But I just tried another add-on that hadn't worked before in a portable copy of NVDA with no other add-ons installed and it worked.  An add-on was keeping it from working.  I think that is very likely the case with this add-on as well.  I think it is very likely to work fully if you try it in a portable copy of NVDA unless you are running an add-on that interferes with it.  I didn't try to find out what add-on is causing the problem.

Gene

On 3/14/2022 5:25 PM, Gene wrote:

I did two or three more searches and I found it.  Its called Global Commands Extensions. 

You can download it from this page as well as read an extensive description about the add-on.

https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=138

It has a lot of capabilities.  You may want to try it.


Gene
On 3/14/2022 5:08 PM, Gene wrote:

I doubt that is a general issue.  We'll see if others report it. 


There is another add-on that announces cut, copy, and paste, from what I've read.  I don't recall the name and I'm not sure what to search for.  I did one search without success.  Someone else will likely provide the name.  You may try that one.


Gene

On 3/14/2022 4:52 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
A few days ago, I downloaded the new version of ClipSpeak compatible with the latest version of NVDA. Today, I noticed a problem. Things would work fine for a while, and then, while in Chrome, I wouldn't be able to switch between browse and forms mode. When navigating through a list of items in my clipboard, pressing the down and up arrow keys closes the clipboard instead of moving to the next item in the list. Restarting NVDA temporarily resolves the issue. After about the third or fourth time of restarting NVDA, I finally disabled the add-on, and now, everything works as it should. 

I'm finding no way to email the developer except for the address given in the About Add-On dialogue, to which I can't seem to navigate. So, I'm posting this here in the hope he sees it. I love the verbal feedback I get from ClipSpeak when copying, pasting, etc. I hope this issue can be resolved.


Re: NVDA not starting with Windows: Curious or Interested Why?

tim
 

Never had to do that for any version of NVDA. you have something going on there if you get that happening.


On 3/18/2022 6:34 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Christo, it's never been consistent, so, just worked around it.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2022-03-18 12:32 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Thanks Jacob. I wondered whether I was the only one experiencing it.

 

Regards

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 12:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA: CURIOUS OR INTERESTED WHY

 

Christo, every now and then, after updating NVDA to a new version, have found that needed to then turn off automatic starting, and then turn it on again, but, inconsistently.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-03-18 12:07 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Good day Group

 

I found, a few times in the passed three or four weeks that, after I turned on my computer, that NVDA does not start automatically, even though I always has it set to do so. Could anyone maybe give met an indication as to what my be the problem?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)


Re: Kind of a broad question, but what changes have been made in the last couple of years?

Gene
 

I would suggest you look at the What's New section available in the help menu.  If you use h to move by heading, you will see various headings such as the version of NVDA being discussed, and headings for categories suchh as new features.  If you want to know about new features, you may down arrow from the new features heading.  New features, have links if you want to learn more.  You can use move to and read next paragraph command, control down arrow, to move through the items and skip the links. 

The What's new section includes a lot of versions of NVDA.  As you move by heading, you will hear the version announced and the same sections underneath for each one. 

I don't remember most changes, introduced bit by bit over a considerable period of time.  And there are many new add-ons that you may be as or more interested in than changes in NVDA itself.  Those aren't in the What's New section. 

Gene
On 3/18/2022 7:28 AM, Phillip Gross wrote:

Good morning. As I said in the subject line, this is kind of a broad question, so I'll apologize to you in advance.

I used NVDA as my primary screen reader for several years. In 2019, I switched back to JAWS for a while and made NVDA secondary. I am now switching back to NVDA. What do I need to know about, good or bad, that's changed in the last 2.5 years?

In addition, what voices do you recommend at this point? I was using the Samantha Vocalizer add on back then, but as I recall there were problems with it and it hadn't been updated. I liked it because it meant that all of my devices were using the same voice.

Anyway, thanks for your time.


Re: Task Bar - Running Applications - After upgrade 2021.3.4

Russell James
 

As I indicated in my original message restarting the computer resolve the problem

I'm not surprised to hear that the changes in this release cause the problem because I reported this at least on the previous update and maybe more

Russ


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 1:55 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
David,

NVDA 2021.3.4 is the latest version of NVDA, it only came out yesterday.  The problem is many synthesizers, and OneCore does it now too, try to interpret it as a date.  It is supposed to be read as "Twenty-Twenty One point three, point four" - it is the fourth minor point release of the third major version of 2021.

We might have to look at doing something different with the version numbering.  And yes, now we've got that patch release out the way, we're about to release 2022.1 Beta 1, so keep an eye out for that in the next few days.

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:48 PM David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
Why are you sending an old update for an older version of nvda?  I’m not sure what this is  all about.  Thank you.

On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:05 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Please restart the PC.  Nothing in NVDA 2021.3.4 should change anything other than the security issue noted.  We have encountered with updates, that often things can behave a little odd after updating and before restarting the PC, so please try that and let us know how it works.
Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 3:58 AM Russell James <4rjames@...> wrote:
Greetings,

I think this happened after the previous update as well...

When I upgraded to 2021.3.4 my running applications in the task bar go silent using mouse over the icons.
The icons to the left are spoken but all I get when using the mouse over the running application icons is a generic "running applications" response.

When I restart the problem is resolved.

Russ




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Can't Upgrade While Using RDP

Russell James
 

Hi Luke

I don't ever recall a time that Microsoft remote desktop was not accessible
I've never used the nvda remote feature I've always just run an installed copy of nvda on the remote computer

Microsoft remote desktop has always supported the audio coming through from the remote therefore making screen readers usable on the remote computer

I also used to be able to do nvda updates on the remote computer using it this way but that is no longer possible

Thank you Jacob when I get a chance I'll try that out maybe if I'm not running in vda on the remote computer I can do the upgrade :-)

Russ


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 2:26 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christopher, when I use the disconnect sub-menu item under windows 10's power user menu - windows key + X, it never has any issues with disconnecting connection - only real issue have had as such is need to make sure remember to turn off any audio-ducking modes on client machine, before connect to remote machine, or else it might, at times, come across a bit soft?


And, this is all under windows 10 x64, on both ends of connection.


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2022-03-18 01:14 AM, Christopher Duffley wrote:
If you're referring to Microsoft Remote Desktop, yes, about 99% of it or so is very accessible with NVDA! The best way to disconnect a machine that's on an NVDARemote connection, however, is to use a Disconnect RDP.bat file that I can send a link to for the Machine being controlled. This is because if you don't use this file disconnect almost every other way, the NVDARemote connection will freeze in terms of sending commands to the machine.

Christopher Duffley
Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com
Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971

12 Pro Max

On Mar 17, 2022, at 19:03, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Russell James wrote:

I used to be able to upgrade NVDA while using RDP.

Perhaps I am behind the times, but my understanding was that RDP was not accessible--That it was, in fact, entirely graphical.
Have I missed an important change?

If not, and it is still entirely inaccessible, how did you used to do this?

Luke






Re: Kind of a broad question, but what changes have been made in the last couple of years?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Regarding Vocalizer-Expressive Samantha, she is still working and your license still valid.

Vocalizer-Expressive is, right now, compatible with NVDA 2021.3.4.

Compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 is ready to be distributed.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
 


Às 12:28 de 18/03/2022, Phillip Gross escreveu:

Good morning. As I said in the subject line, this is kind of a broad question, so I'll apologize to you in advance.

I used NVDA as my primary screen reader for several years. In 2019, I switched back to JAWS for a while and made NVDA secondary. I am now switching back to NVDA. What do I need to know about, good or bad, that's changed in the last 2.5 years?

In addition, what voices do you recommend at this point? I was using the Samantha Vocalizer add on back then, but as I recall there were problems with it and it hadn't been updated. I liked it because it meant that all of my devices were using the same voice.

Anyway, thanks for your time.


Re: Kind of a broad question, but what changes have been made in the last couple of years?

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

a tip: in NVDA's browse mode, you can press the number 2, this will make NVDA navigate between the new features of each version

Em sex., 18 de mar. de 2022 às 09:34, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas via groups.io <25102008luccas=gmail.com@groups.io> escreveu:

you can check this in NVDA's help menu by going with NVDA+n and going to help and clicking on news, there will be all the news from NVDA 2019 until today

Em sex., 18 de mar. de 2022 às 09:28, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> escreveu:
Good morning. As I said in the subject line, this is kind of a broad question, so I'll apologize to you in advance.

I used NVDA as my primary screen reader for several years. In 2019, I switched back to JAWS for a while and made NVDA secondary. I am now switching back to NVDA. What do I need to know about, good or bad, that's changed in the last 2.5 years?

In addition, what voices do you recommend at this point? I was using the Samantha Vocalizer add on back then, but as I recall there were problems with it and it hadn't been updated. I liked it because it meant that all of my devices were using the same voice.

Anyway, thanks for your time.


Re: Kind of a broad question, but what changes have been made in the last couple of years?

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

you can check this in NVDA's help menu by going with NVDA+n and going to help and clicking on news, there will be all the news from NVDA 2019 until today

Em sex., 18 de mar. de 2022 às 09:28, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> escreveu:

Good morning. As I said in the subject line, this is kind of a broad question, so I'll apologize to you in advance.

I used NVDA as my primary screen reader for several years. In 2019, I switched back to JAWS for a while and made NVDA secondary. I am now switching back to NVDA. What do I need to know about, good or bad, that's changed in the last 2.5 years?

In addition, what voices do you recommend at this point? I was using the Samantha Vocalizer add on back then, but as I recall there were problems with it and it hadn't been updated. I liked it because it meant that all of my devices were using the same voice.

Anyway, thanks for your time.


Kind of a broad question, but what changes have been made in the last couple of years?

Phillip Gross
 

Good morning. As I said in the subject line, this is kind of a broad question, so I'll apologize to you in advance.

I used NVDA as my primary screen reader for several years. In 2019, I switched back to JAWS for a while and made NVDA secondary. I am now switching back to NVDA. What do I need to know about, good or bad, that's changed in the last 2.5 years?

In addition, what voices do you recommend at this point? I was using the Samantha Vocalizer add on back then, but as I recall there were problems with it and it hadn't been updated. I liked it because it meant that all of my devices were using the same voice.

Anyway, thanks for your time.


Re: NVDA not starting with Windows: Curious or Interested Why?

Christo Vorster
 

Yes, so I also do

 

Stay well

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 12:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA: CURIOUS OR INTERESTED WHY

 

Christo, it's never been consistent, so, just worked around it.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-03-18 12:32 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Thanks Jacob. I wondered whether I was the only one experiencing it.

 

Regards

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 12:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA: CURIOUS OR INTERESTED WHY

 

Christo, every now and then, after updating NVDA to a new version, have found that needed to then turn off automatic starting, and then turn it on again, but, inconsistently.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-03-18 12:07 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Good day Group

 

I found, a few times in the passed three or four weeks that, after I turned on my computer, that NVDA does not start automatically, even though I always has it set to do so. Could anyone maybe give met an indication as to what my be the problem?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)


Re: NVDA not starting with Windows: Curious or Interested Why?

Jacob Kruger
 

Christo, it's never been consistent, so, just worked around it.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2022-03-18 12:32 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Thanks Jacob. I wondered whether I was the only one experiencing it.

 

Regards

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 12:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA: CURIOUS OR INTERESTED WHY

 

Christo, every now and then, after updating NVDA to a new version, have found that needed to then turn off automatic starting, and then turn it on again, but, inconsistently.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-03-18 12:07 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Good day Group

 

I found, a few times in the passed three or four weeks that, after I turned on my computer, that NVDA does not start automatically, even though I always has it set to do so. Could anyone maybe give met an indication as to what my be the problem?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)


Re: NVDA not starting with Windows: Curious or Interested Why?

Christo Vorster
 

Thanks Jacob. I wondered whether I was the only one experiencing it.

 

Regards

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 12:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA: CURIOUS OR INTERESTED WHY

 

Christo, every now and then, after updating NVDA to a new version, have found that needed to then turn off automatic starting, and then turn it on again, but, inconsistently.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-03-18 12:07 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Good day Group

 

I found, a few times in the passed three or four weeks that, after I turned on my computer, that NVDA does not start automatically, even though I always has it set to do so. Could anyone maybe give met an indication as to what my be the problem?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

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