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Re: skype and NVDA

tim
 

Try slowing things down or actually read it for once!


On 4/23/2022 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:

I misread your message.

Gene

On 4/23/2022 7:25 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Gene,


I need info for Skype not Zoom.


thanks.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 4/23/2022 8:23 AM, Gene wrote:
If you mean using the browser and not the program, I haven't used Zoom in that way.  There is a test room but if you don't have the application installed, I don't know if you can use it.  I have the application installed and I can't test using Zoom in a browser.  Is there a reason you can't or don't want to use the application?  Here is the page where you can join a test meeting where you are the only participant.  You may be able to look around and see if it is accessible in a browser.
https://zoom.us/test

There is a join a test meeting button on the page. The meeting times out after perhaps two minutes. 

This is the page for the U.S. join a test meeting.  I don't know if it works for other countries. 
If it doesn't, do a Google search for zoom join a test meeting and see what you find.

Gene
On 4/23/2022 7:00 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I participate with a group that is holding a meeting at 10:00 today.  They are using skype and I haven't used it for several years.  How accessible is it via the web using NVDA?  Do I need to install anything to make it more accessible?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)



Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

Kenny Cheung
 

tried that and I'm still having the same issue. should I try and uninstall and reinstall NVDA? Is their a way to reset the punctuation's?

On 4/23/2022 2:54 PM, Gene wrote:

You don't hear much punctuation when set to some.  The easiest solution might be to set it to none.  I'm not sure why you are having the problem because I don't hear dot spoken when punctuation is  set to some, either, but you can try the none setting.  You can use the shortcut command that cycles through the choices NVDA key p.

Gene

On 4/23/2022 11:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Kenny, et. al.,

I have split your topic into one of it's own.  I ask those who wish to respond to Kenny's issues to please do so using this topic, not the Exclamation Point topic.
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed



Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

Gene
 

You don't hear much punctuation when set to some.  The easiest solution might be to set it to none.  I'm not sure why you are having the problem because I don't hear dot spoken when punctuation is  set to some, either, but you can try the none setting.  You can use the shortcut command that cycles through the choices NVDA key p.

Gene

On 4/23/2022 11:04 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Kenny, et. al.,

I have split your topic into one of it's own.  I ask those who wish to respond to Kenny's issues to please do so using this topic, not the Exclamation Point topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed



Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

 

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 12:36 PM, Kenny Cheung wrote:
thanks. so is their a way to have it not say dot every time I read something?
-
I'm not trying to be cranky, but to educate myself here, what constitutes the conditions of "every time?"

For instance, I have never heard NVDA announce punctuation when doing a "read all."  I can't recall even hearing punctuation when going sentence by sentence or word by word (but I don't do that very often, and I certainly don't go letter by letter/character by character practically ever).

What are you having NVDA read, and how, when you're getting "dot" said when you think it shouldn't be said.
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
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Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

David Goldfield
 

I’m currently not able to experiment with this as I’m using the latest 2022.1 beta and the Code Factory drivers have not yet been updated to be compatible with that release. That being said I do recall the colon being read when you press insert-f12 to speak the time. You could either set the punctuation setting to none or you could go into the NVDA menu, choose Preferences and then Punctuation/Symbol Level and fine tune at what level of punctuation symbols like the colon are sent to the synthesizer.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Cheung
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2022 12:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

 

thanks. so is their a way to have it not say dot every time I read something? I don't remember NVDA doing this before. Its also a fresh install. I had to reset my computer to factory settings and had to re-download everything.

On 4/23/2022 12:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Kenny, et. al.,

I have split your topic into one of it's own.  I ask those who wish to respond to Kenny's issues to please do so using this topic, not the Exclamation Point topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

Kenny Cheung
 

thanks. so is their a way to have it not say dot every time I read something? I don't remember NVDA doing this before. Its also a fresh install. I had to reset my computer to factory settings and had to re-download everything.

On 4/23/2022 12:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Kenny, et. al.,

I have split your topic into one of it's own.  I ask those who wish to respond to Kenny's issues to please do so using this topic, not the Exclamation Point topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Speech delay in Excel

David Hoff Jr
 

Thanks all of you for your help. I was using SAPI 4. When I changed to
SAPI 5 the problem went away. This was not an Excel problem, but a wrong
setting in NVDA.


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Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

 

Kenny, et. al.,

I have split your topic into one of it's own.  I ask those who wish to respond to Kenny's issues to please do so using this topic, not the Exclamation Point topic.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

Kenny Cheung
 

following up from my last email, I’m using eloquence as my synthesizer. is their a way I can copy my speech histery and send it? If their is, where do I send it to?
Sent from Kenny’s MacBook Pro

On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:27, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

I have tried all the various settings you suggested but still can’t get it to stop saying exclamation. I don’t have any problems with other punctuation marks.
 
Sent from Mail for Windows
 
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 07 April 2022 14:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark
 
Hi Peter,
 
Have you not told it in what level of punctuation to use it? For example, if you set it to only be used when punctuation is set to all, then change your punctuation to some, that will or should, eliminate it.
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 10 March 2022 10:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark
 
It’s being spoken when reading a line of text or a document or e-mail.
 
Sent from Mail for Windows
 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 09 March 2022 16:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark
 
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:10 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
I have tried all of the options listed but still can’t stop exclamation from being spoken
-
And you have yet to give a clear explanation of exactly under what conditions it's being spoken where you don't want it.  That really makes it impossible for anyone to give good advice.
 
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Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022
 
 

 


Re: Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

Kenny Cheung
 

mine won't stop saying dot when it sees a period. It also won't stop saying colon when I check the time. I have punctuation set to some. 

Sent from Kenny’s iPhone

On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:28, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:



I have tried all the various settings you suggested but still can’t get it to stop saying exclamation. I don’t have any problems with other punctuation marks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 07 April 2022 14:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark

 

Hi Peter,

 

Have you not told it in what level of punctuation to use it? For example, if you set it to only be used when punctuation is set to all, then change your punctuation to some, that will or should, eliminate it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 10 March 2022 10:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark

 

It’s being spoken when reading a line of text or a document or e-mail.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 09 March 2022 16:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark

 

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:10 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I have tried all of the options listed but still can’t stop exclamation from being spoken

-
And you have yet to give a clear explanation of exactly under what conditions it's being spoken where you don't want it.  That really makes it impossible for anyone to give good advice.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 

 

 


Eloquence and Punctuation Announcement

Peter Beasley
 

I have tried all the various settings you suggested but still can’t get it to stop saying exclamation. I don’t have any problems with other punctuation marks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 07 April 2022 14:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark

 

Hi Peter,

 

Have you not told it in what level of punctuation to use it? For example, if you set it to only be used when punctuation is set to all, then change your punctuation to some, that will or should, eliminate it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 10 March 2022 10:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark

 

It’s being spoken when reading a line of text or a document or e-mail.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 09 March 2022 16:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Exclamation mark

 

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:10 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I have tried all of the options listed but still can’t stop exclamation from being spoken

-
And you have yet to give a clear explanation of exactly under what conditions it's being spoken where you don't want it.  That really makes it impossible for anyone to give good advice.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Constantly insisting on “my rights” with no consideration of “my responsibilities” isn’t “freedom” — it’s adolescence.
     ~ Commenter, Evangelos, in comments for
         America 2022: Where Everyone Has Rights and No One Has Responsibilities,
        New York Times, February 8, 2022

 

 

 


Re: skype and NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Well, I just got off the meeting and it worked fairly well.  At least almost as well as Zoom. :)


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 4/23/2022 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:

I misread your message.

Gene

On 4/23/2022 7:25 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Gene,


I need info for Skype not Zoom.


thanks.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 4/23/2022 8:23 AM, Gene wrote:
If you mean using the browser and not the program, I haven't used Zoom in that way.  There is a test room but if you don't have the application installed, I don't know if you can use it.  I have the application installed and I can't test using Zoom in a browser.  Is there a reason you can't or don't want to use the application?  Here is the page where you can join a test meeting where you are the only participant.  You may be able to look around and see if it is accessible in a browser.
https://zoom.us/test

There is a join a test meeting button on the page. The meeting times out after perhaps two minutes. 

This is the page for the U.S. join a test meeting.  I don't know if it works for other countries. 
If it doesn't, do a Google search for zoom join a test meeting and see what you find.

Gene
On 4/23/2022 7:00 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I participate with a group that is holding a meeting at 10:00 today.  They are using skype and I haven't used it for several years.  How accessible is it via the web using NVDA?  Do I need to install anything to make it more accessible?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)



Re: skype and NVDA

Gene
 

I misread your message.

Gene

On 4/23/2022 7:25 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Gene,


I need info for Skype not Zoom.


thanks.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 4/23/2022 8:23 AM, Gene wrote:
If you mean using the browser and not the program, I haven't used Zoom in that way.  There is a test room but if you don't have the application installed, I don't know if you can use it.  I have the application installed and I can't test using Zoom in a browser.  Is there a reason you can't or don't want to use the application?  Here is the page where you can join a test meeting where you are the only participant.  You may be able to look around and see if it is accessible in a browser.
https://zoom.us/test

There is a join a test meeting button on the page. The meeting times out after perhaps two minutes. 

This is the page for the U.S. join a test meeting.  I don't know if it works for other countries. 
If it doesn't, do a Google search for zoom join a test meeting and see what you find.

Gene
On 4/23/2022 7:00 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I participate with a group that is holding a meeting at 10:00 today.  They are using skype and I haven't used it for several years.  How accessible is it via the web using NVDA?  Do I need to install anything to make it more accessible?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)



Re: skype and NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Gene,


I need info for Skype not Zoom.


thanks.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 4/23/2022 8:23 AM, Gene wrote:

If you mean using the browser and not the program, I haven't used Zoom in that way.  There is a test room but if you don't have the application installed, I don't know if you can use it.  I have the application installed and I can't test using Zoom in a browser.  Is there a reason you can't or don't want to use the application?  Here is the page where you can join a test meeting where you are the only participant.  You may be able to look around and see if it is accessible in a browser.
https://zoom.us/test

There is a join a test meeting button on the page. The meeting times out after perhaps two minutes. 

This is the page for the U.S. join a test meeting.  I don't know if it works for other countries. 
If it doesn't, do a Google search for zoom join a test meeting and see what you find.

Gene
On 4/23/2022 7:00 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I participate with a group that is holding a meeting at 10:00 today.  They are using skype and I haven't used it for several years.  How accessible is it via the web using NVDA?  Do I need to install anything to make it more accessible?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: skype and NVDA

Gene
 

If you mean using the browser and not the program, I haven't used Zoom in that way.  There is a test room but if you don't have the application installed, I don't know if you can use it.  I have the application installed and I can't test using Zoom in a browser.  Is there a reason you can't or don't want to use the application?  Here is the page where you can join a test meeting where you are the only participant.  You may be able to look around and see if it is accessible in a browser.
https://zoom.us/test

There is a join a test meeting button on the page. The meeting times out after perhaps two minutes. 

This is the page for the U.S. join a test meeting.  I don't know if it works for other countries. 
If it doesn't, do a Google search for zoom join a test meeting and see what you find.

Gene
On 4/23/2022 7:00 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I participate with a group that is holding a meeting at 10:00 today.  They are using skype and I haven't used it for several years.  How accessible is it via the web using NVDA?  Do I need to install anything to make it more accessible?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


skype and NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

I participate with a group that is holding a meeting at 10:00 today.  They are using skype and I haven't used it for several years.  How accessible is it via the web using NVDA?  Do I need to install anything to make it more accessible?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Looking for nvda friendly editors that support markdown and spell checking

William
 

By the way I have just tried installing an addon of vscode https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ban.spellright

The addon uses the build in spelling checker of Windows, and if spelling errors is detected, you can hear the audio cue of vscode, and you can look for the spelling errors from status bar.

Although it offers an option for pressing ctrl +. to select from suggestion, but it seems to be not accessible by nvda.



SuperSilly 於 23/4/2022 19:20 寫道:

Luke,

I have once tried using spell check addon of notepad++ and seemed not accessible with nvda.


Luke Davis 於 23/4/2022 11:31 寫道:
Brian Vogel wrote:

I seem to recall that Sarah A. is a huge fan of Markdown, too, so I expect she may chime in about
what editor or editors she's using for Markdown that are also accessible with NVDA.
As am I. But I am more a consumer of this topic than a contributor, as my editor of choice is nano under Linux. Does spell checking and otherwise leaves the text alone.

Notepad++ can do it of course, but I have never tried spell checking in that (it probably has a plugin).

I have been looking for something to handle Markdown in Windows for a while, but more on the rendering side (to preview a document).

Luke




Re: Looking for nvda friendly editors that support markdown and spell checking

William
 

Luke,

I have once tried using spell check addon of notepad++ and seemed not accessible with nvda.


Luke Davis 於 23/4/2022 11:31 寫道:

Brian Vogel wrote:

I seem to recall that Sarah A. is a huge fan of Markdown, too, so I expect she may chime in about
what editor or editors she's using for Markdown that are also accessible with NVDA.
As am I. But I am more a consumer of this topic than a contributor, as my editor of choice is nano under Linux. Does spell checking and otherwise leaves the text alone.

Notepad++ can do it of course, but I have never tried spell checking in that (it probably has a plugin).

I have been looking for something to handle Markdown in Windows for a while, but more on the rendering side (to preview a document).

Luke




Re: Audio ducking issue

Jason Bratcher
 

This
Sound" > "Communications" tab > "Do nothing" radio option
also exists in Win11 as well.
BTW, to check that:
1. WinKey+r for Runn... dialog,
2. Type "MMSys.CPL" into this edit box without quoting and Enter.
When the "Sound" dialog opens,
(You'll initially be on the "PlayBack" tab).
3. CTRL+Shift+Tab once to the "Communications" property sheet.
A series of four radiobuttons is now in focus (That's all there is on this property page prior to your
OK
Cancel
possibly an Apply button if you were already here on a different tab changing things but didn't save them yet).
The first one here (Not Recommended!) is to
"Mute all other sounds".
The second and third options are to
"Reduce the volume of other sounds by 80%",
"Reduce the volume of other sounds by 50%",
Now the option I use is at the very bottom:
Do nothing".
Assuming this is the choice you want,
Tap Enter and this change is applied.
Now that that's done,
On a minor "yay!" moment I stopped ThunderBird from inserting the
--
before my signature.
That'll tidy me messages up a bit?
I think that oughta be enough...
Jason Bratcher


Re: Looking for nvda friendly editors that support markdown and spell checking

Sarah k Alawami
 

I am actually using jarte, writing my text as markdown and just checking spelling etc.  It works for what I need. I am so confident that I normally don’t check to see if it is formatted right anymore.  Maybe not the corrrrect way but it works

 

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Stay in touch with us via our discord. This is an easier way to both contact us, and get to know your fellow listeners.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for nvda friendly editors that support markdown and spell checking

 

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:19 PM, Jackie wrote:

Well, this isn't exactly NVDA related, so I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but I think that Writemonkey, (write monkey),
available from: www.writemonkey.com will do precisely what you need.

-
Jackie,

What you offered is "perfectly legal:"  Discussions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, NVDA tutorials and documentation, and configuring synthesizers or Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted.

A question was asked about program options that are accessible with NVDA, and you've offered one  Were you to have gone into all the nuts and bolts of working with Writemonkey, it's commands and shortcuts, and the like I'd have suggested you take it to the Chat Subgroup.

There are frequent questions about what specific programs are accessible with NVDA, and the giving of options that fill that bill is a part of the group mission.

I seem to recall that Sarah A. is a huge fan of Markdown, too, so I expect she may chime in about what editor or editors she's using for Markdown that are also accessible with NVDA.
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
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