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Re: NVDA addon The direct link

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,
if you've ever tried a dropbox link for instance,  when you open the link, it'll take you to a page where you have to click on the download button to download the file.
similarly for other services.
The addon will convert these links to a direct link, where the download starts directly.
best regards


On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:12 PM mr Krit Kumar kedia <kritparagkedia@...> wrote:
Hello all members,
Here, I have a question regarding the direct link addon of the NVDA which can be 
 foundhere
so kindly tell me about this addon as I am not able to understand from the text provided on the above link.

Best,
Krit Kedia


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Betsy Grenevitch
 

On my laptop which I believe is set up like a desktop keyboard I have to push NVDA Key plus the delete key which is two to the right of the F12 key. Then while holding those down I push the F12 key once for time and twice for the date. Hope this helps.

On 5/10/2022 9:55 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thanks Gene, yes, I've used other NVDA keys and they seem a little iffy; especially when the computer first boots.  Like: the time and date key tells me the system volume; the screen review and object review doesn't work.  By the time I get to the read line and quit keys, most things are working.  Except for the time; and that's a favorite.  I guess I should try more keys.  So I did a reset and now the computer does not come up talking.  So I have to try to remember how to get NVDA loaded from a portable copy on a USB stick.  Well, I haven't given up yet.  Good thing I have two working computers.

 Howard

On 5/10/2022 7:18 AM, Gene wrote:
Have you checked to see if other NVDA key commands work properly? How about NVDA key n or NVDA key q?

Gene

On 5/10/2022 5:41 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you Sarah, but this machine is a desktop.  Sorry I failed to mention that.  As such, there is no FN key.

Howard

On 5/9/2022 10:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn keys are deactivated. Consult your favorite search engine as there are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3.  When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume.  After it's been up awhile, it stays silent.  I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help. At first, it doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone?  Thanks.


Howard



















--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Howard

Is there any manufacturer based enhanced keyboard driver in effect that provides additional functionality?  I remember having a wireless keyboard systm one time and that interfered with my screen reader.

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Howard Traxler
Sent: 10 May 2022 14:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

 

Thanks Gene, yes, I've used other NVDA keys and they seem a little iffy;

especially when the computer first boots.  Like: the time and date key

tells me the system volume; the screen review and object review doesn't

work.  By the time I get to the read line and quit keys, most things are

working.  Except for the time; and that's a favorite.  I guess I should

try more keys.  So I did a reset and now the computer does not come up

talking.  So I have to try to remember how to get NVDA loaded from a

portable copy on a USB stick.  Well, I haven't given up yet.  Good thing

I have two working computers.

 

 Howard

 

On 5/10/2022 7:18 AM, Gene wrote:

> Have you checked to see if other NVDA key commands work properly? How

> about NVDA key n or NVDA key q?

> Gene

> On 5/10/2022 5:41 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:

>> Thank you Sarah, but this machine is a desktop.  Sorry I failed to

>> mention that.  As such, there is no FN key.

>> 

>> Howard

>> 

>> On 5/9/2022 10:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

>>> I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn

>>> keys are deactivated.  Consult your favorite search engine as there

>>> are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

>>> 

>>> Good luck.

>>> 

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard

>>> Traxler

>>> Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM

>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>> Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

>>> 

>>> For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3.  When I first boot up, the

>>> command

>>> F12 tells me the system volume.  After it's been up awhile, it stays

>>> silent.  I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help. At first, it

>>> doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a

>>> bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Any ideas anyone?  Thanks.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Howard

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

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>> 

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Re: Visual studio lagging

bering.p
 

Hi.
In this case, NVDA should warn the user that a reboot is needed like when changing language.
Best regards.
Paul.
Le 10/05/2022 11:59, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi,

Specifically in order to reload UIA support, but the explanation makes sense.

Cheers,

Joseph



NVDA addon The direct link

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hello all members,
Here, I have a question regarding the direct link addon of the NVDA which can be 
 foundhere
so kindly tell me about this addon as I am not able to understand from the text provided on the above link.

Best,
Krit Kedia


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Howard Traxler
 

Thanks Gene, yes, I've used other NVDA keys and they seem a little iffy; especially when the computer first boots.  Like: the time and date key tells me the system volume; the screen review and object review doesn't work.  By the time I get to the read line and quit keys, most things are working.  Except for the time; and that's a favorite.  I guess I should try more keys.  So I did a reset and now the computer does not come up talking.  So I have to try to remember how to get NVDA loaded from a portable copy on a USB stick.  Well, I haven't given up yet.  Good thing I have two working computers.

 Howard

On 5/10/2022 7:18 AM, Gene wrote:
Have you checked to see if other NVDA key commands work properly? How about NVDA key n or NVDA key q?

Gene

On 5/10/2022 5:41 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you Sarah, but this machine is a desktop.  Sorry I failed to mention that.  As such, there is no FN key.

Howard

On 5/9/2022 10:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn keys are deactivated.  Consult your favorite search engine as there are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3.  When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume.  After it's been up awhile, it stays silent.  I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help. At first, it doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone?  Thanks.


Howard

















Re: crashes in the last few betas

 

Hi all,

Based on the debug log Dan sent me, I notice several things working in concert here:

  1. The first error from the log has to do with a badly formatted add-on manifest, which happens to belong to what I think is an older version of Speech History add-on. Specifically, NVDA (via Python) cannot parse specific manifest fields, causing the add-on to fail to load.
  2. A number of COM (Component Object Model) errors are seen when performing actions in Thunderbird 91. COM errors do cause NVDA to play error tones but does not impact NVDA functionality. If you are using alpha or beta releases, hearing error tones is normal, but that does not mean NVDA has crashed (you will know NVDA has crashed when it suddenly restarts without you doing anything).

Overall: do not worry about error tones as it is meant to communicate info to be passed onto developers, or if developers (like myself) are hearing error tones, it's a message telling us to read the log to find out what happened.

IMPORTANT REMINDER: whenever I (or any developer) ask for a log, PLEASE SEND THEM PRIVATELY AS IT MAY CONTAIN SENSITIVE INFORMATION! When I offer diagnoses and conclusions, they are based on info from the debug logs I get and could be described as overall summaries (I will not go into add-on compatibility diagnosis unless: the add-on is indeed working and this add-on is responsible for causing the errors reported).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Gene
 

Have you checked to see if other NVDA key commands work properly?  How about NVDA key n or NVDA key q?

Gene

On 5/10/2022 5:41 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you Sarah, but this machine is a desktop.  Sorry I failed to mention that.  As such, there is no FN key.

Howard

On 5/9/2022 10:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn keys are deactivated.  Consult your favorite search engine as there are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3.  When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume.  After it's been up awhile, it stays silent.  I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help.  At first, it doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone?  Thanks.


Howard





















Punctuation

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Peter

Below is a copy of the message I sent you 4 days ago, to which I received no response.  We have tried to help you with this issue recently and on previous occasions and have asked you for details of what steps you are taking to rectify the problems you are experiencing.  To summarise, the only feedback we get from you is “I’ve tried everything, nothing works”.  When I and probably others on the list, try to assist someone requesting help, information in their message is used to assess the level of understaning of the issue and the response is pitched accordingly.  The responses you give provide no feedback whatsoever.  Think of it as a math problem, we need to see the workings as well as the result.

 

I am using Windows 10, NVDA 2021.3.5 and MS OneCore voice.  , Here is my message again:

 

Part 1 - Using the Punctuation/Symbol Pronunciation dialog, set the levels to”All” for both instances of exclaim and apostrophe. There are 2 entries in the dialog for each of these so there are 4 entries to check.  This completes Part1 of the process.

 

Part 2 - Once you have done the above, you need to set the Symbol level you want to hear.  If you press NVDA+p repeatedly, you will hear NVDA cycle around the available options which are, In order, None, Some, Most and All.  Stop pressing NVDA+p when you hear the level you want to set. 

The Symbol level setting chosen determines which Punctuation/Symbol characters are announced as you readusing Say all, Say Line and Say word commands as it will only announce punctuation/Symbol characters which have a level equal to or lower, set in the Punctuation/Symbol Pronunciation dialog discussed in Part 1.  Note that reading by character will always read the character, irrespective of the level set for it.  This completes Part 2 of the process.

 

Examples:

Set Symbol level (Part 2) to “Some” and it will only announce Punctuation/Symbols with levels of “None” and “Some” as set in Part 1.

 

Set Symbol level (Part 2) to “All” and it will only announce Punctuation/Symbols with levels of “None”, “Some”, Most”  and ”All” as set in Part 1.

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

 

         

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 06 May 2022 11:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuation

 

I have got it set to none.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: 06 May 2022 09:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuation

 

Hi Peter

What a the reading levels you have set on the 2 instances of ! in the Punctuation/Symbols dialog?

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 05 May 2022 16:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

I am using Windows one core voice George and don’t have another screenreader.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 May 2022 16:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

I don't recall if these two suggestions were made.  Have you tried using a portable version?  Also, have you tried another screen-reader using the same synthesizer? 

Gene

On 5/5/2022 10:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I have tried everything but am unable to stop NVDA form announcing exclamation and apostrophe.

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Excel and sort data

William
 

Hello,


1. Open any excel file

2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as the header

3. select all existing data by ctrl +a

4. go to data tab, press sort button

5. tab to any of the dropdown menu

6. press up or down arrow, everytime when I press up or down arrow, nvda will say list box  list xxxx

7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda will repeat the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable, followed by the next item.


Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel problem? Thanks.

William


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Howard Traxler
 

Thank you Sarah, but this machine is a desktop.  Sorry I failed to mention that.  As such, there is no FN key.

Howard

On 5/9/2022 10:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn keys are deactivated. Consult your favorite search engine as there are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3. When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume. After it's been up awhile, it stays silent. I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help. At first, it doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone? Thanks.


Howard












Re: Punctuation

Peter Beasley
 

I have tried all of the settings for punctuation but still can’t get rid of exclamation. from Mail for Windows

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 10 May 2022 08:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuation

 

Also, don’t forget you can change the level at which punctuation is spoken, specifically the exclamation and apostrophes.

 

Check out the punctuation settings in NVDA.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 05 May 2022 16:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

What happens if you use E-Speak?

Gene

On 5/5/2022 10:31 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I am using Windows one core voice George and don’t have another screenreader.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 May 2022 16:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

I don't recall if these two suggestions were made.  Have you tried using a portable version?  Also, have you tried another screen-reader using the same synthesizer? 

Gene

On 5/5/2022 10:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I have tried everything but am unable to stop NVDA form announcing exclamation and apostrophe.

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Visual studio lagging

 

Hi,

Specifically in order to reload UIA support, but the explanation makes sense.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Visual studio lagging

Cyrille
 

Hi all

Thanks Amir and Gene for the answers.

And thanks for the trick Gene. Thisreally makes a difference.

Actually, on the contrary to what I wrote yesterday, checking "Enable selective registration for UI Automation events and property changes" in the Advanced Settings seems to greatly improve things. But today I have restarted NVDA after having modified the option, what I did not do yesterday. This restart seems necessary to guarantee that this option takes effect, probably because UIA events are only registered at NVDA startup.

I will let you know if I face any new difficulty.

Cheers,

Cyrille


suggestion for NVDA

aidan gamble
 

Good day to everyone

A suggestion to be hopefully taken up by developers

 

Cause we have an addon or something developed in invda to allow us to access news services or online streaming radio services

Regards

Aidan


Re: Punctuation

Steve Nutt
 

Also, don’t forget you can change the level at which punctuation is spoken, specifically the exclamation and apostrophes.

 

Check out the punctuation settings in NVDA.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 05 May 2022 16:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

What happens if you use E-Speak?

Gene

On 5/5/2022 10:31 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I am using Windows one core voice George and don’t have another screenreader.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 May 2022 16:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

I don't recall if these two suggestions were made.  Have you tried using a portable version?  Also, have you tried another screen-reader using the same synthesizer? 

Gene

On 5/5/2022 10:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

I have tried everything but am unable to stop NVDA form announcing exclamation and apostrophe.

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

 

 


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Why don't you go into input options and change the time and date to something else like the pause key?

On 5/9/2022 9:49 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn keys are deactivated. Consult your favorite search engine as there are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3. When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume. After it's been up awhile, it stays silent. I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help. At first, it doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone? Thanks.


Howard











--
******
Something to think about:
Since God has forgiven it,
who are you to keep picking it back up!
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in


Re: Header issue with Bookshare and BARD pages, my bad

Sarah k Alawami
 

Lol. We all mess up. I've been running lists since 2005 and I still fudge. I'm glad you got your problem fixed.

Happy Monday.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Higgins
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Header issue with Bookshare and BARD pages, my bad

Yep Sarah, we all make mistakes. And I'll be honest. I've been using email, and have been a light participant in email lists for nearly 30 years, and I should have known better than to do what I did. I probably should have started an entirely new thread by saying something like "I made a booboo" or something of that nature. I'm sure glad there isn't a jail for miscreant like me <smile>.

On 5/9/2022 8:54 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I think of it like this, and I've told people on several lists. What you did is called hijacking a thread, that is a big no no for those of us using email clients as it creates a mess. I don't tolerate that on any of my lists. I don't mind doing the dirty work, but it makes my life easier when all 300 or so people follow the rules of, just don't do it. Now it's back to cleaning up a mess I made when I hosed something I should not have. Lol!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry
Higgins
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 6:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Header issue with Bookshare and BARD pages, my bad

Luke,


All points well taken. If only this were a more perfect world.


Unfortunately, when one is thinking only (and selfish though it might be), of a solution to their immediate problem, they aren't for the most part, thinking so considerately, they just want a solution, and they want it as soon as possible. But nevertheless, you have made some very good points, and sure, we should all keep these in mind when pursuing an answer to a problem.


I guess one way in which we could think of these problems and their ultimate solutions would be kind of like a saga, or at least that's some times the way I think of them, especially when the subject has peaked my interest. I will, from here on out try to be more considerate in the future.


And if I think I might know how to search for the answer to a specific issue in the archives, I should probably take advantage of it. However when it came to this one, I'm not quite sure how I would have gone about it. Maybe type in the word "header" and search through all of the entries, and maybe I would have gotten lucky <smile>. But at least, with all of those willing to provide their kind help, we got to the bottom of it.

Have a good evening,

Larry

On 5/9/2022 7:08 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Hi Larry

You wrote:
The primary reason for changing the subject line was not to annoy
you or anybody else
It's not that I was personally annoied. It's that the practice of
starting a new message thread is annoying. I will explain.

If anyone reading the list archives in a month or a year finds that
message thread via a web search or whatever, they will now have no
idea how it turned out, because the resolution is on a completely
different thread that they won't know anything about. Well, unless
Brian goes through the trouble of merging the two threads, which is
never guaranteed.

Imagine that they are having the same problem, and thinking "oh
great, I'm finally going to get an answer". They read through all the
messages in the old thread, waiting to get to the one with the answer.
Only they will be frustrated by just falling off the end without any
resolution because the resolution has been kept from them by being
put in some other thread, which they aren't reading.

A mailing list is a community. Sure you (the general you, not just
you
Larry) are asking for help for your particular problem, but you are
also potentially helping anybody else who is having that problem. And
because of list archives, you are helping anyone who might have it in
the future. Please think of that time-smeared nature of mailing list
exchanges, any time you are posting.

The solution to your little niggle today, could be the google search
result that saves somebody's job in five years!

End rant. :)

Luke













Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't know what kind of system you have, but check to see your fn keys are deactivated. Consult your favorite search engine as there are a million ways to do things on every different laptop.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3. When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume. After it's been up awhile, it stays silent. I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help. At first, it doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone? Thanks.


Howard


Re: time and date key (NVDA plus F12)

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,
Assuming you have a laptop,
Probably your f keys are not working as f1 to f12, rather as some system function.
so try with the function key. NVDA+Function+f12.
If that works, you can try fixing the f keys depending on the laptop model.
good luck.


On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:29 AM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
For some reason, my time and date key isn't working.


I'm using windows 10 and NVDA 21.3.3.  When I first boot up, the command
F12 tells me the system volume.  After it's been up awhile, it stays
silent.  I did the NVDA fix thing but that didn't help.  At first, it
doesn't want to change review modes; but that comes back after a bit. 
This is all after a system restore, if that matters


Any ideas anyone?  Thanks.


Howard







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