Re: Question Regarding Browse setting
Luke Davis
Gene wrote:
I just checked. F1 brings up the user manual. Shift f1 opens the manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you issue the command.That is not the normal experience. Check your keyboard layout against NVDA input help. F1 is supposed to work alone for this, although if your browser remembers where you were last reading in the manual, it may not work so well. I don't think it is generally known. I don't recall seeing it discussed here before.Perhaps I shouldn't have recommended it. It is apparently an undocumented feature, and does not work in every possible place within NVDA currently. It does work in most or all of the settings panels though, and is worth trying if you can't remember what something does. -- Luke "I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk
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Re: Question Regarding Browse setting
Gene
Now that I know that context sensitive help is available, there may
be times I refer people to it. I don't think it is generally
known. I don't recall seeing it discussed here before.
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And it will save me time on occasions when I want to look up what a command does. Gene
On 5/14/2022 4:08 AM, Gene via
groups.io wrote:
I just checked. F1 brings up the user manual. Shift f1 opens the manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you issue the command.
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Re: Question Regarding Browse setting
Gene
I just checked. F1 brings up the user manual. Shift f1 opens the
manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you
issue the command.
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I don't know how often shift f1 is used for context `sensitive help these days. It used to be a long time ago but I haven't seen it discussed for a long time. Gene
On 5/14/2022 1:01 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Gene wrote:
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Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell
William
Hello,
This question is partly related to NVDA and partly related to Windows PowerShell. Supposed I have the following python script and stored in a python file 'test.py', which print out a new string of text after every second. import time for i in np.arange(10): print('Sleeping', f"{str(round((i-1)/secs*100, 0)).removesuffix('.0')}%", end="\r", flush=True) time.sleep(1) 1. I open Windows PowerShell 2. type python test.py 3. the script starts running I am expecting that NVDA can automatically speak out the new string of text, but in my test, after the first 'Spleeping...' was spoken, NVDA did not speak the updated messages. What can I do to make NVDA speak the updated messages? Thanks. William
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Re: 2022 RC, Outlook 2019 and NVDA-Search
Gene
What behavior was different? the box should be checked by default.
If the behavior is now the same when the check box is checked, that
was the problem.
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On 5/14/2022 1:30 AM, Yeti wrote:
Hi Gene,Tab to a check box that says Enable browse mode on page load. If it isn't checked, check it with the space bar. Then press enter.This works. Never the les, this behavior was different with 2021.x 🤷 Thx Yeti
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Re: Questions About Vocalizer for NVDA
Abhishek Raut
Hello. I have seen all the messages, And I would like to suggest you, Don't go for indo nvda and code factory Vocalizer. I have bought the code factory Vocalizer, and It do not deserve the value which we paid. I am Using voices for marathi, and, hindi. These voices are very bad in quality, doesn't matter you install pro, or any quality. About Indo nvda, it is nothing but code factory Vocalizer. I don't know the price of indo nvda, but it maybe expensive than code factory. I have bought code factory for 6000 INR, and maybe indo nvda is more expensive than it. Also the code factory services too bad. I did mail them to many times, but the frequency of getting reply is very less. Other here mention, I don't used that. But I suggest, Take a good trial, then purchase. Thank you
On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 1:03 PM mr Krit Kumar kedia <kritparagkedia@...> wrote:
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Regards, Abhishek Raut
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Re: Questions About Vocalizer for NVDA
mr Krit Kumar kedia
Hello, I heard the messages above, and I think you are finding a good vocaliser to use with NVDA. I have a suggestion for you, try out INDO NVDA! It is a software almost the NVDA infact mostly NVDA! which offers vocalizer support, and other alequence voices as well produced by Saksham! It's a paid software, but really helpful. Best, Thank you, Krit Kedia diving into the world of technology! email: kritparagkedia@... +91, India
On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 9:59 AM Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote: Dear Rui,
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Re: 2022 RC, Outlook 2019 and NVDA-Search
Yeti
Hi Gene,
Tab to a check box that says Enable browse mode on page load. This works. Never the les, this behavior was different with 2021.x 🤷 Thx Yeti
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Re: Question Regarding Browse setting
Luke Davis
Gene wrote:
I don't know the significance of the lines per page setting.Again, easily determined by pressing F1 while in that field. It configures how many lines a page up/down keypress moves while in browse mode. I have mine set to 48, since that is the line count on my Linux text consoles, and I am used to its progress characteristics. That said, I rarely use pgup/pgdn on web pages. -- Luke "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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Re: Question Regarding Browse setting
Luke Davis
Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:
One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters on oneWhatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for? Luke
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Re: Question Regarding Browse setting
Gene
I'd only worry about those settings if you are dissatisfied with how
you move through a page. I don't know the significance of the lines
per page setting. When I load a web page, it is fully loaded and
that is how I want it.
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If you are looking through text such as an article, shorter lines means that you may find what you are looking for more easily on a shorter line. There is less to read per line and it may be faster to skim. Gene
On 5/13/2022 11:50 PM, Marilyn and Don
Bilderback wrote:
One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters on one line. Another question is how many lines on one page. What should be the number entered for each?
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Question Regarding Browse setting
Marilyn and Don Bilderback
One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters on one
line. Another question is how many lines on one page. What should be the number entered for each?
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Re: Questions About Vocalizer for NVDA
Bhavya shah
Dear Rui,
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That sounds great. Is a demo/trial version available? I am reading your documentation and it says: "... if you want to try out the product before you buy it, please contact Tiflotecnia, Lda or your local Vocalizer for NvDA dealer." Please let me know if I should be reaching out to you or another representative offlist. Thanks.
On 5/12/22, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
The driver for the old Vocalizer is already updated on the web page... --
Kind Regards, Bhavya Shah B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Re: NVDA and reporting of spelling error
Gene
I haven't compared the two. I use word very little. Browse mode in
Word allows you to use all sorts of features you may find useful. I
don't use Word enough to discuss them further.
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I may check to see where the subject is discussed in the user guide. Gene
On 5/13/2022 12:28 PM, Janet Brandly
wrote:
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Re: NVDA and reporting of spelling error
It’s no faster per say. I use the grammar checker though to go over any mistakes I might have made. It gets the job done.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and reporting of spelling error
Thanks for this. I use Word all the time and had no idea. Sounds like it would be faster than using Word’s spellcheck.
Janet
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
I don't know if anyone is reading this thread who doesn't know what is being discussed. I'll briefly explain it. On 5/12/2022 7:10 PM, William wrote:
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What Languages Truly Need TTS Voices?
Louder Pages
Hello, I hope this is not off topic.
I would ask that people reply directly to me at lp@... rather than flood this thread. We at Louder Pages are looking to prioritize candidates for new languages for our free. RHVoice collection. Priority is given to languages which either have no existing TTS voice, or which have a large number of users who have only poor quality voices to choose from. We are particularly interested in African languages, and in the languages of Southern and South East Asia. If anyone has good arguments for why a language should be a candidate, would you please email me at lp@...? Thanks.
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Re: NVDA and reporting of spelling error
Janet Brandly
Thanks for this. I use Word all the time and had no idea. Sounds like it would be faster than using Word’s spellcheck.
Janet
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: May 12, 2022 6:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and reporting of spelling error
I don't know if anyone is reading this thread who doesn't know what is being discussed. I'll briefly explain it. On 5/12/2022 7:10 PM, William wrote:
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Re: mouse hover
Gene
I didn't say anything beyond Internet pages. I amnot saying that
hovering the mouse isn't important or useful in any programs.
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Gene
On 5/13/2022 10:42 AM, Steve Nutt
wrote:
Hi, I also disagree with Jean on this one, Quickbooks makes some use of Mouse Overs, and JAWS works well with it. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: 08 May 2022 07:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] mouse hover Gene wrote:My guess is that if mouse over links did anything other than be marginally useful, that is, show necessary information more than very rarely, NVDA would have incorporated a mouse over function. JAWS has one, Window-eyes didn't. I think if it were considered at all important, more than just one screen[-reader would have it.Gene, I must disagree with you. I have been in several situations where a website's functions were completely unusable without mouseover capability, or some way to simulate it. I present, again, GetResponse as one example. Now, that bad design is not NVDA's fault, but I think that the real reason here is that it is simply very difficult to do given the way NVDA presents information. Apparently, in Jaws, it is not unusual to hear that new options have appeared on line such-and-such of the virtual buffer. But users jumping to specific lines, is not an NVDA paradigm. So the question becomes: if new options do appear, how should NVDA get you to them, or tell you about them? I suspect if there was a reasonable answer to that, more progress might be made on mouseover support. Luke
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Re: mouse hover
Steve Nutt
Hi,
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I also disagree with Jean on this one, Quickbooks makes some use of Mouse Overs, and JAWS works well with it. All the best Steve
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: 08 May 2022 07:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] mouse hover Gene wrote: My guess is that if mouse over links did anything other than beGene, I must disagree with you. I have been in several situations where a website's functions were completely unusable without mouseover capability, or some way to simulate it. I present, again, GetResponse as one example. Now, that bad design is not NVDA's fault, but I think that the real reason here is that it is simply very difficult to do given the way NVDA presents information. Apparently, in Jaws, it is not unusual to hear that new options have appeared on line such-and-such of the virtual buffer. But users jumping to specific lines, is not an NVDA paradigm. So the question becomes: if new options do appear, how should NVDA get you to them, or tell you about them? I suspect if there was a reasonable answer to that, more progress might be made on mouseover support. Luke
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Re: OnlyOffice - Collaborative webeditor
Francis Zinke
Yeah, Office 365. But there is the same problem dataprivacy and restrictions for the use cause of laws in some european regions. Any ideas, or informations for collabora?
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