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Re: can't get to notification from One Drive using NVDA

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hello and good evening,
I read your messages above and I have a sollution to try.
Open your start manue, type notifications and at the bottom or in the results bar you will find a setting named notifications and actions. Click there and by pressing tab you will precure options of notifications for all the apps, find the setting of one drive or any other related to that and turn it off. 

Hope it helps,

With best regards,
Krit Kumar



On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:18 PM Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
I'm getting those too, and I find them quite annoying as I already
have Office. Windows+A gets you to the action center where you can
view and clear them, but I think you have to go into your notification
settings in order to turn them off.

On 5/14/22, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I use one drive for some of my cloud storage.  I have recently started
> receiving notifications about using Office 365.  I can't figure out how to
> get to those notifications so I can hopefully turn these notifications off.
> Can anyone tell me how to get to the notifications using NVDA?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
>
>





Re: can't get to notification from One Drive using NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I'm getting those too, and I find them quite annoying as I already
have Office. Windows+A gets you to the action center where you can
view and clear them, but I think you have to go into your notification
settings in order to turn them off.

On 5/14/22, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
Hi,


I use one drive for some of my cloud storage.  I have recently started
receiving notifications about using Office 365.  I can't figure out how to
get to those notifications so I can hopefully turn these notifications off.
Can anyone tell me how to get to the notifications using NVDA?


Thanks.



--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
can't get to notification from One Drive using NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I use one drive for some of my cloud storage.  I have recently started receiving notifications about using Office 365.  I can't figure out how to get to those notifications so I can hopefully turn these notifications off.  Can anyone tell me how to get to the notifications using NVDA?


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Gene
 

Shift f10 is for opening the context menu.  I'm talking about context sensitive help.

Gene

On 5/14/2022 11:18 AM, tim wrote:

Don't you mean shift + f10, never heard of shift + f1.


On 5/14/2022 11:21 AM, Gene wrote:
f1 is usually help.  In the old days, shift f1 was used in many applications for context sensitive help, such as when you were in a field of a dialog.  I don't know if it is used to any extent in that way now.

Gene

On 5/14/2022 9:28 AM, Monte Single wrote:
I am not sure, but I think  using the F1 key is a windows key command and
not specific to a screenreader.
What you get when you press the f1 key depends on the app you are using and
what you are doing.
Hopefully,   there are others on this list who can clarify my statement.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don
Bilderback
Sent: May 14, 2022 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information.  That is
because I never knew about it before today.  Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.  
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:


One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters 
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?

Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke


Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Sarah k Alawami
 

I remember shift plus f1 when I was younger, about 20 years ago for contextual sensitive help as well. So no shift f1 depending on the program can be accurate as well as f1.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 9:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

In every app I have ever ran f1 has always ben for help and same in OS's even mac.


On 5/14/2022 10:28 AM, Monte Single wrote:
I am not sure, but I think using the F1 key is a windows key command and
not specific to a screenreader.
What you get when you press the f1 key depends on the app you are using and
what you are doing.
Hopefully, there are others on this list who can clarify my statement.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don
Bilderback
Sent: May 14, 2022 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information. That is
because I never knew about it before today. Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:

One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?
Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

tim
 

In every app I have ever ran f1 has always ben for help and same in OS's even mac.

On 5/14/2022 10:28 AM, Monte Single wrote:
I am not sure, but I think using the F1 key is a windows key command and
not specific to a screenreader.
What you get when you press the f1 key depends on the app you are using and
what you are doing.
Hopefully, there are others on this list who can clarify my statement.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don
Bilderback
Sent: May 14, 2022 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information. That is
because I never knew about it before today. Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:

One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?
Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

tim
 

Don't you mean shift + f10, never heard of shift + f1.


On 5/14/2022 11:21 AM, Gene wrote:
f1 is usually help.  In the old days, shift f1 was used in many applications for context sensitive help, such as when you were in a field of a dialog.  I don't know if it is used to any extent in that way now.

Gene

On 5/14/2022 9:28 AM, Monte Single wrote:
I am not sure, but I think  using the F1 key is a windows key command and
not specific to a screenreader.
What you get when you press the f1 key depends on the app you are using and
what you are doing.
Hopefully,   there are others on this list who can clarify my statement.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don
Bilderback
Sent: May 14, 2022 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information.  That is
because I never knew about it before today.  Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.  
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:


One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters 
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?

Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke

Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Gene
 

f1 is usually help.  In the old days, shift f1 was used in many applications for context sensitive help, such as when you were in a field of a dialog.  I don't know if it is used to any extent in that way now.

Gene

On 5/14/2022 9:28 AM, Monte Single wrote:
I am not sure, but I think  using the F1 key is a windows key command and
not specific to a screenreader.
What you get when you press the f1 key depends on the app you are using and
what you are doing.
Hopefully,   there are others on this list who can clarify my statement.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don
Bilderback
Sent: May 14, 2022 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information.  That is
because I never knew about it before today.  Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.  
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:


One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters 
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?

Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke

Re: NVDA and reporting of spelling error

Russell James
 

Thanks all this was a great conversation!


On Fri, May 13, 2022, 3:50 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I haven't compared the two.  I use word very little.  Browse mode in Word allows you to use all sorts of features you may find useful.  I don't use Word enough to discuss them further. 

I may check to see where the subject is discussed in the user guide.

Gene

On 5/13/2022 12:28 PM, Janet Brandly wrote:

Thanks for this. I use Word all the time and had no idea. Sounds like it would be faster than using Word’s spellcheck.

 

Janet

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: May 12, 2022 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and reporting of spelling error

 

I don't know if anyone is reading this thread who doesn't know what is being discussed.  I'll briefly explain it.

In Word, NVDA space places you in browse mode.  W moves you to the next misspelled word.  You can hear the word in context by reading the current line. 

When you are finished in browse mode, NVDA space turns browse mode off and you can work directly with the document, such as edit it, just as before.

Gene.

On 5/12/2022 7:10 PM, William wrote:

> Did you know you can navigate between misspelled words by pressing NVDA plus Space, then W? When you find a misspelled word, press your applications key or Shift plus F10 to open the context menu, in order to correct the word. If you want to correct the word manually, you'll need to press NVDA plus Space again. I hope this is helpful.

 

Correct, but in reality, I cannot do any correction without first reading the whole sentence, cause sometimes the spelling errors suggested by word is not correct.

 

 

 

Abbie Taylor 於 13/5/2022 06:47 寫道:

I'm noticing the same thing. So, I'm assuming it's normal.

Did you know you can navigate between misspelled words by pressing NVDA plus Space, then W? When you find a misspelled word, press your applications key or Shift plus F10 to open the context menu, in order to correct the word. If you want to correct the word manually, you'll need to press NVDA plus Space again. I hope this is helpful.

 
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Monte Single
 

I am not sure, but I think using the F1 key is a windows key command and
not specific to a screenreader.
What you get when you press the f1 key depends on the app you are using and
what you are doing.
Hopefully, there are others on this list who can clarify my statement.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn and Don
Bilderback
Sent: May 14, 2022 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information. That is
because I never knew about it before today. Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:

One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?
Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

Luke, no, I have never pressed the F1 key to get information. That is
because I never knew about it before today. Thanks to you and Gene, I will
have a new reference for learning.

As a note, the shift F1 works to explain the item I last stopped on.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question Regarding Browse setting

Marilyn and Don Bilderback wrote:

One of the browse settings asks for the maximum number of characters
on one line.
Another question is how many lines on one page.
What should be the number entered for each?
Whatever you are comfortable with. Have you tried pressing F1 while on
either of those fields, to get a better understanding of what they are for?

Luke
NVDA repeating every Chinese character twice in Windows PowerShell

William
 

Hello all,

1. Open Windows PowerShell

2. Run the following python script: print('測試用文字')

3. When you press Enter, the first time nvda will say '測試用文字'

4. But if I use review cursor to go back to that line of text, NVDA will say ''測測試試用用文文字字' which repeating every character twice.


I am testing this with NVDA 2022.1 RC1, without installing any addon

windows 10 home ed 21h2


I try doing the same thing in Windows terminal preview, but the Chinese characters are correctly reported.


Here I attach the respective debug log for your reference.


Thanks.

William
Re: Questions About Vocalizer for NVDA

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hello all,
The cost of the INDO NVDA is around 5000 Roopees 
I dont know exactly about the quality of the INDO NVDA as I have never used it but going through the feedback of my friends I suggested you.
You should have a try on it!
I think it offers trial period also.

Thank you,
Krit Kumar
a tech lover from somewhere!


On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 1:48 PM Abhishek Raut <raut.abhishek1109@...> wrote:
Hello.
I have seen all the messages, And I would like to suggest you, Don't go for indo nvda and code factory Vocalizer.
I have bought the code factory Vocalizer, and It do not deserve the value which we paid.
I am Using voices for marathi, and, hindi.
These voices are very bad in quality, doesn't matter you install pro, or any quality.
About Indo nvda, it is nothing but code factory Vocalizer.
I don't know the price of indo nvda, but it maybe expensive than code factory.
I have bought code factory for 6000 INR, and maybe indo nvda is more expensive than it.
Also the code factory services too bad.
I did mail them to many times, but the frequency of getting reply is very less.
Other here mention, I don't used that. But I suggest, Take a good trial, then purchase.
Thank you



On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 1:03 PM mr Krit Kumar kedia <kritparagkedia@...> wrote:
Hello,
I heard the messages above, and I think you are finding a good vocaliser to use with NVDA.
I have a  suggestion for you,
try out INDO NVDA!
It is a software almost the NVDA infact mostly NVDA! which offers vocalizer support, and other  alequence voices as well produced by Saksham!
It's  a paid software, but really helpful.

Best,
Thank you,
Krit Kedia 
diving into the world of technology!
+91, India 



On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 9:59 AM Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear Rui,

That sounds great. Is a demo/trial version available? I am reading
your documentation and it says: "... if you want to try out the
product before you buy it, please contact Tiflotecnia, Lda or your
local Vocalizer for NvDA dealer." Please let me know if I should be
reaching out to you or another representative offlist.

Thanks.

On 5/12/22, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
> The driver for the old Vocalizer is already updated on the web page...
>
>
> The direct link is:
>
> https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer-driver_2.1.3.nvda-addon
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
>
> Às 23:41 de 12/05/2022, David Mehler escreveu:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Also with regards Vocalizer will the 2.1 nvda.addon be updated for
>> 2022.1 compatibility?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> DAve.
>>
>>
>> On 5/12/22, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a bit of a suspect, since I'm from Tiflotecnia...
>>>
>>>
>>> But, let's see:
>>>
>>> * Which, if any, support automatic language switching? Using the
>>>> CodeFactory bundle 1.1 with NVDA 2021.3.5, neither Eloquence nor
>>>> Vocalizer seemed to be able to auto-switch despite that option being
>>>> enabled in Voice Settings.
>>>
>>> Our Vocalizer works very good in that feature...
>>>
>>> And, for people using no latin characters, like chinese, japonese,
>>> cyrilic, hebrew or arabic, even on apps not informing the screen reader
>>> to change language, our Vocalizer changes automatically based on the
>>> type of characters...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> * Which tends to be updated for compatibility with new NVDA releases
>>>> most promptly?
>>>
>>> Ours. We have already the new driver to publish it today or tomorrow...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> * What are other differences that should be accounted for in one's
>>>> decision?
>>>
>>> Our technical support is better andfaster...
>>>
>>>
>>> Rui Fontes
>>>
>>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







--
Regards, Abhishek Raut
Re: Forgive this q. about end-block-quote and paragraph Editable

Penny Golden <pengold2@...>
 

Thanks so much.  I don't care what default is, if only I can change it. 

Thanks so much for the info.

Pen



On 5/14/2022 5:36 AM, Gene wrote:
NVDA announces block quotes by default, a setting I have objected to in the past.

You can eliminate this announcement in the following way:
Open the document formatting dialog using the command control NVDA d.  That is, hold control and the NVDA key and type d while doing so.
Tab through the items and you will eventually get to block quotes.  It is a check box.  Uncheck it with the space bar, then press enter. 

You won't hear block quotes identified in places like e-mails or web pages. 

Gene

On 5/14/2022 5:29 AM, Penny Golden wrote:

Can I write emails without having these words come up?  I know it must be possible; and I know that I should be able to figure out what it is that I need to turn off.

Is there a way to get this extraneous wording out of the reading and writing process?

Sorry if this should be obvious.

Thanks.









Re: Forgive this q. about end-block-quote and paragraph Editable

Gene
 

NVDA announces block quotes by default, a setting I have objected to in the past.

You can eliminate this announcement in the following way:
Open the document formatting dialog using the command control NVDA d.  That is, hold control and the NVDA key and type d while doing so.
Tab through the items and you will eventually get to block quotes.  It is a check box.  Uncheck it with the space bar, then press enter. 

You won't hear block quotes identified in places like e-mails or web pages. 

Gene

On 5/14/2022 5:29 AM, Penny Golden wrote:

Can I write emails without having these words come up?  I know it must be possible; and I know that I should be able to figure out what it is that I need to turn off.

Is there a way to get this extraneous wording out of the reading and writing process?

Sorry if this should be obvious.

Thanks.








Forgive this q. about end-block-quote and paragraph Editable

Penny Golden <pengold2@...>
 

Can I write emails without having these words come up?  I know it must be possible; and I know that I should be able to figure out what it is that I need to turn off.

Is there a way to get this extraneous wording out of the reading and writing process?

Sorry if this should be obvious.

Thanks.
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Gene
 

The commands aren't defined in Input Help.  However, the difference in behavior may depend on whether  Windows 7 or Windows 10 or 11 is being used. 

In Windows 7, at least on my machine, what I said is the case.  In Windows 10, both f1 and shift f1 do the same thing, in other words they both bring up context sensitive help.

I wouldn't think the version of Windows would make any difference but it seems to.

Gene

On 5/14/2022 4:56 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Gene wrote:

I just checked.  F1 brings up the user manual.  Shift f1 opens the manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you issue the command. 

That is not the normal experience. Check your keyboard layout against NVDA input help. F1 is supposed to work alone for this, although if your browser remembers where you were last reading in the manual, it may not work so well.

I don't think it is generally known.  I don't recall seeing it discussed here before.

Perhaps I shouldn't have recommended it. It is apparently an undocumented feature, and does not work in every possible place within NVDA currently. It does work in most or all of the settings panels though, and is worth trying if you can't remember what something does.


Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Luke Davis
 

Gene wrote:

I just checked.  F1 brings up the user manual.  Shift f1 opens the manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you issue the command. 
That is not the normal experience. Check your keyboard layout against NVDA input help. F1 is supposed to work alone for this, although if your browser remembers where you were last reading in the manual, it may not work so well.

I don't think it is generally known. I don't recall seeing it discussed here before.
Perhaps I shouldn't have recommended it. It is apparently an undocumented feature, and does not work in every possible place within NVDA currently. It does work in most or all of the settings panels though, and is worth trying if you can't remember what something does.

--
Luke
"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk
Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Gene
 

Now that I know that context sensitive help is available, there may be times I refer people to it.  I don't think it is generally known.  I don't recall seeing it discussed here before.

And it will save me time on occasions when I want to look up what a command does.

Gene

On 5/14/2022 4:08 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I just checked.  F1 brings up the user manual.  Shift f1 opens the manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you issue the command. 

I don't know how often shift f1 is used for context `sensitive help these days.  It used to be a long time ago but I haven't seen it discussed for a long time. 

Gene

On 5/14/2022 1:01 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Gene wrote:

I don't know the significance of the lines per page setting. 

Again, easily determined by pressing F1 while in that field. It configures how many lines a page up/down keypress moves while in browse mode.

I have mine set to 48, since that is the line count on my Linux text consoles, and I am used to its progress characteristics. That said, I rarely use pgup/pgdn on web pages.



Re: Question Regarding Browse setting

Gene
 

I just checked.  F1 brings up the user manual.  Shift f1 opens the manual to the part that describes the command you are on when you issue the command. 

I don't know how often shift f1 is used for context `sensitive help these days.  It used to be a long time ago but I haven't seen it discussed for a long time. 

Gene

On 5/14/2022 1:01 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
Gene wrote:

I don't know the significance of the lines per page setting. 

Again, easily determined by pressing F1 while in that field. It configures how many lines a page up/down keypress moves while in browse mode.

I have mine set to 48, since that is the line count on my Linux text consoles, and I am used to its progress characteristics. That said, I rarely use pgup/pgdn on web pages.


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