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Re: Punctuation

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes and the slash is called a stroke.  Makes sence if you think about it.  It looks like the stroke of a pen. Interesting history of words etc. I love history of words, but then again I am a teacher for what ever that’s worth.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuation

 

Apparently the "!" being called "bang" goes back to the 1950s and either comic books (which portrayed a speech bubble with ! in it coming out of a gun to signify it being fired, hence 'bang') - or typesetting manuals: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/62918/why-is-the-exclamation-mark-called-a-bang.  I've never heard it used anywhere other than screen readers (not just NVDA).

 

I can't readily find a reference for the apostrophe being called tick.  In ASCII the grave accent is called the "back tick", and I assume that would have come from the same source.

 

I assume screen readers picked up those two names from the ascii and other similar references, but also because both are shorter to say than their more common names.  (Or at least more common here in Australia, I'm not sure whether either term is used - outside screen readers - to describe those symbols in other countries?

 

Fiddlesticks, I used my linguistic nerd quota in In-Process for the month last edition, maybe I can explore this in a future In-Process!

 

(Fiddlesticks of course from "Fiddle Sticks", the bows used to play violins, from the 15th century "fydylstyks").

 

Ok I'll stop now :)

 

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:27 PM Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

I’ve often wondered why NVDA calls the apostrophe a tick?

 

I guess the same reason that it calls an exclamation mark a bang, but it’s curious wording for the apostrophe.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 05 May 2022 23:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

When are they being read?

 

If I write:

Don't!

 

And up arrow onto that line, NVDA will read simply the word "don't", without articulating either the apostrophe or exclamation mark.

 

That happens with punctuation level set to none, some or most.  If I have punctuation level set to all then NVDA reads "don tick t bang".

 

If I right arrow through the word, then NVDA will always read "d o n tick t bang" regardless of the punctuation level

 

Given you worded them "apostrphe" and "exclamation" have you edited the "punctuation / symbol pronunciation" or dictionary?

 

In the punctuation / symbol pronunciation dialog, there are two entries for each.  Press the exclamation ! to jump to each of its entries.  Press apostrophe ' to jump to it's entry used when it is on its own.  The in-word apostrophe is three above the other one.  All four are set to symbol level "all" by default.

 

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:20 AM Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

I have tried everything but am unable to stop NVDA form announcing exclamation and apostrophe.

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


 

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Re: what's up with this player?

Gene
 

I tried that and it didn't work when I did.  If it did when you tried it, that's fine. 

Gene

On 5/15/2022 10:04 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Okay, I finally got it to work. Even in browse mode, it works. Just
click the link that says 4, and then the audio will start and the link
will now display as visited, and will change to say 6. That is
completely not logical though.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Here is how you get the player to play.  When you are in the player,
make sure you are at the top.
Turn browse mode off with NVDA space.
Tab until you get to a link that just says link.  It will be two or
three times.
Use NVDA numpad enter to activate the link.  Then use the same command
again to activate it again.  The audio will play.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 7:35 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Gene,
Try again. The link you provided directed me to WHTE in
Charlottesville, VA. The station in question is KRSQ in Billings, MT.
That website is hot1019.com, and the player linked to in my original
message on this topic is the one linked from their website.
Jackie, what browser and operating system are you on? I don't get any
audio when I use that link, hence my post to this list. I'm currently
running Windows 10 with Firefox, but have tried this player with IE on
both Windows 10 and Windows 7 also with no luck.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b
to move to them.  NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one
of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the
site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time. Check
the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.




















Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi William,

You might get more responses for these Python questions in the NVDA developer group: https://groups.io/g/nvda-devel

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 7:04 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:
Hello,

This question is partly related to NVDA and partly related to Windows
PowerShell.


Supposed I have the following python script and stored in a python file
'test.py', which print out a new string of text after every second.


import time

for i in np.arange(10):

     print('Sleeping', f"{str(round((i-1)/secs*100,
0)).removesuffix('.0')}%", end="\r", flush=True)

     time.sleep(1)

1. I open Windows PowerShell

2. type python test.py

3. the script starts running

I am expecting that NVDA can automatically speak out the new string of
text, but in my test, after the first 'Spleeping...' was spoken, NVDA
did not speak the updated messages.


What can I do to make NVDA speak the updated messages? Thanks.

William











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Re: Punctuation

Quentin Christensen
 

Apparently the "!" being called "bang" goes back to the 1950s and either comic books (which portrayed a speech bubble with ! in it coming out of a gun to signify it being fired, hence 'bang') - or typesetting manuals: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/62918/why-is-the-exclamation-mark-called-a-bang.  I've never heard it used anywhere other than screen readers (not just NVDA).

I can't readily find a reference for the apostrophe being called tick.  In ASCII the grave accent is called the "back tick", and I assume that would have come from the same source.

I assume screen readers picked up those two names from the ascii and other similar references, but also because both are shorter to say than their more common names.  (Or at least more common here in Australia, I'm not sure whether either term is used - outside screen readers - to describe those symbols in other countries?

Fiddlesticks, I used my linguistic nerd quota in In-Process for the month last edition, maybe I can explore this in a future In-Process!

(Fiddlesticks of course from "Fiddle Sticks", the bows used to play violins, from the 15th century "fydylstyks").

Ok I'll stop now :)

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:27 PM Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

I’ve often wondered why NVDA calls the apostrophe a tick?

 

I guess the same reason that it calls an exclamation mark a bang, but it’s curious wording for the apostrophe.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 05 May 2022 23:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuationp

 

When are they being read?

 

If I write:

Don't!

 

And up arrow onto that line, NVDA will read simply the word "don't", without articulating either the apostrophe or exclamation mark.

 

That happens with punctuation level set to none, some or most.  If I have punctuation level set to all then NVDA reads "don tick t bang".

 

If I right arrow through the word, then NVDA will always read "d o n tick t bang" regardless of the punctuation level

 

Given you worded them "apostrphe" and "exclamation" have you edited the "punctuation / symbol pronunciation" or dictionary?

 

In the punctuation / symbol pronunciation dialog, there are two entries for each.  Press the exclamation ! to jump to each of its entries.  Press apostrophe ' to jump to it's entry used when it is on its own.  The in-word apostrophe is three above the other one.  All four are set to symbol level "all" by default.

 

On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 1:20 AM Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:

I have tried everything but am unable to stop NVDA form announcing exclamation and apostrophe.

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 



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Re: what's up with this player?

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Okay, I finally got it to work. Even in browse mode, it works. Just
click the link that says 4, and then the audio will start and the link
will now display as visited, and will change to say 6. That is
completely not logical though.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Here is how you get the player to play. When you are in the player,
make sure you are at the top.
Turn browse mode off with NVDA space.
Tab until you get to a link that just says link. It will be two or
three times.
Use NVDA numpad enter to activate the link. Then use the same command
again to activate it again. The audio will play.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 7:35 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Gene,
Try again. The link you provided directed me to WHTE in
Charlottesville, VA. The station in question is KRSQ in Billings, MT.
That website is hot1019.com, and the player linked to in my original
message on this topic is the one linked from their website.
Jackie, what browser and operating system are you on? I don't get any
audio when I use that link, hence my post to this list. I'm currently
running Windows 10 with Firefox, but have tried this player with IE on
both Windows 10 and Windows 7 also with no luck.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b
to move to them. NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one
of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the
site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time. Check
the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.












Re: what's up with this player?

Jackie
 

FF 100 Win 10 21H2.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Here is how you get the player to play.  When you are in the player,
make sure you are at the top.
Turn browse mode off with NVDA space.
Tab until you get to a link that just says link.  It will be two or
three times.
Use NVDA numpad enter to activate the link.  Then use the same command
again to activate it again.  The audio will play.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 7:35 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Gene,
Try again. The link you provided directed me to WHTE in
Charlottesville, VA. The station in question is KRSQ in Billings, MT.
That website is hot1019.com, and the player linked to in my original
message on this topic is the one linked from their website.
Jackie, what browser and operating system are you on? I don't get any
audio when I use that link, hence my post to this list. I'm currently
running Windows 10 with Firefox, but have tried this player with IE on
both Windows 10 and Windows 7 also with no luck.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b
to move to them.  NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one
of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the
site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time. Check
the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.











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Re: what's up with this player?

Gene
 

Here is how you get the player to play.  When you are in the player, make sure you are at the top.
Turn browse mode off with NVDA space.
Tab until you get to a link that just says link.  It will be two or three times.
Use NVDA numpad enter to activate the link.  Then use the same command again to activate it again.  The audio will play.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 7:35 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Gene,
Try again. The link you provided directed me to WHTE in
Charlottesville, VA. The station in question is KRSQ in Billings, MT.
That website is hot1019.com, and the player linked to in my original
message on this topic is the one linked from their website.
Jackie, what browser and operating system are you on? I don't get any
audio when I use that link, hence my post to this list. I'm currently
running Windows 10 with Firefox, but have tried this player with IE on
both Windows 10 and Windows 7 also with no luck.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b
to move to them.  NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one
of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time. Check
the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.

        












Re: what's up with this player?

Gene
 

I'll try that station. 

Gene

On 5/15/2022 7:35 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Gene,
Try again. The link you provided directed me to WHTE in
Charlottesville, VA. The station in question is KRSQ in Billings, MT.
That website is hot1019.com, and the player linked to in my original
message on this topic is the one linked from their website.
Jackie, what browser and operating system are you on? I don't get any
audio when I use that link, hence my post to this list. I'm currently
running Windows 10 with Firefox, but have tried this player with IE on
both Windows 10 and Windows 7 also with no luck.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b
to move to them.  NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one
of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time. Check
the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.

        












Re: what's up with this player?

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Gene,
Try again. The link you provided directed me to WHTE in
Charlottesville, VA. The station in question is KRSQ in Billings, MT.
That website is hot1019.com, and the player linked to in my original
message on this topic is the one linked from their website.
Jackie, what browser and operating system are you on? I don't get any
audio when I use that link, hence my post to this list. I'm currently
running Windows 10 with Firefox, but have tried this player with IE on
both Windows 10 and Windows 7 also with no luck.

On 5/15/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b
to move to them.  NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one
of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time. Check
the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.






Re: getting the time and date

Howard Traxler
 

Thank you folks, for responding.  But now this whole thing has to be on hold.  Thought I had it set; but found it necessary to restart and now the soundcard dongle is not recognized and the machine is silent.  Good thing I have an upstairs machine.  I'll return about this matter at a later date, I hope.

Howard

On 5/15/2022 1:23 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Howard,

How, precisely, did you perform your reset?  That term means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, and the exact technique you used could be a part of your current quandry.  Also, knowing the make and model of your machine along with the Windows 10 Version and Build would be most helpful to potential assistants.
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Re: getting the time and date

Rui Fontes
 

I just asked to exclude the possibility of function keys are not working as you expected...


Rui Fontes


Às 23:33 de 15/05/2022, Howard Traxler escreveu:

it's a desktop; but I have the keyboard set to laptop.


On 5/15/2022 1:16 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
It is a laptop or a desktop?


Rui


Às 18:47 de 15/05/2022, Howard Traxler escreveu:
I just did a windows reset on my windows 10 computer thinking it would solve all my problems.  Well, it only made things worse.  It blew away everything I had installed.  My particular concern is NVDA. So, I reinstalled NVDAS, (this time, 2.1.3.3).  I'm still not able to read the time with NVDA plus F12.  Now, it just seems to be silent. Maybe the computer is just not displaying the date and time info in a place where NVDA can grab it?  Any suggestions?  I really like this function; it's more accurate than my clock which is also on the desk along side the computer.

Thanks.
Howard

P.S.  I have to try setting up my email again on that machine.











Re: getting the time and date

Howard Traxler
 

it's a desktop; but I have the keyboard set to laptop.

On 5/15/2022 1:16 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
It is a laptop or a desktop?


Rui


Às 18:47 de 15/05/2022, Howard Traxler escreveu:
I just did a windows reset on my windows 10 computer thinking it would solve all my problems.  Well, it only made things worse.  It blew away everything I had installed.  My particular concern is NVDA. So, I reinstalled NVDAS, (this time, 2.1.3.3).  I'm still not able to read the time with NVDA plus F12.  Now, it just seems to be silent. Maybe the computer is just not displaying the date and time info in a place where NVDA can grab it?  Any suggestions?  I really like this function; it's more accurate than my clock which is also on the desk along side the computer.

Thanks.
Howard

P.S.  I have to try setting up my email again on that machine.







Re: what's up with this player?

Gene
 

Also, what I described as buttons are actually links so you can't use b to move to them.  NVDA says link button, so treat them like links.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 4:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time.  Check the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





.



Re: can't navigate using arrow keys in any edit fields

Michael Hunsaker
 

I think the built in navigation tools for sites like Gmail, linked in, Office365 are trying to get in the way. I usually hit F7 (no other modifiers or command keys) to turn off caret browsing and this usually helps. If not, I jump in and out of scan mode and it fixes it. 

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Re: what's up with this player?

Gene
 

Go to the actual station:
https://www.1019hot.com/

Make sure you are at the top of the page.
Move to an unlabeled link that says 58201 and press enter.
You are now on a page with the kind of buttons you would expect, one of which is a play button.

You were going to the player but it is not being used to stream the site.

Stations may change their streaming address from time to time.  Check the actual site if something stops working.

Gene

On 5/15/2022 2:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





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Re: what's up with this player?

Jackie
 

All I hear from it is commercials, so I'm not quite sure what the
alure might be. Nonetheless, Bob, you don't tell us much--what version
of Windows, what browser you're using, etc.

On 5/15/22, Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/





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what's up with this player?

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Hi all,
Hopefully I still get an answer to my other question, but while I'm on
here, what's up with this audio player? I'm currently running Windows
10 with Firefox as my default browser, but this has been a problem
with this station through two operating systems, two browsers, and at
least three computers. Can anyone tell me why I can't get any audio?
The station used to have a prerol add and that would play, but the
station audio wouldn't.
http://m.commotion.com/player/9A14E259-76F4-47D4-AF94-0ED5394282E1_E6C462BB-968B-46CF-B159-C0619A75A171/


Re: getting the time and date

Tyler Spivey
 

NVDA can always get the time. This sounds like a problem with your keyboard.
Let's rule that out first.
Please do the following:
1. Press NVDA+1 to turn on input help.
2. Press f1 through f12. What do you get?
3. Press NVDA+f12. What do you get?
4. Turn input help back off with NVDA+1.

On 5/15/2022 10:47 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
I just did a windows reset on my windows 10 computer thinking it would solve all my problems.  Well, it only made things worse.  It blew away everything I had installed.  My particular concern is NVDA.  So, I reinstalled NVDAS, (this time, 2.1.3.3).  I'm still not able to read the time with NVDA plus F12.  Now, it just seems to be silent.  Maybe the computer is just not displaying the date and time info in a place where NVDA can grab it?  Any suggestions?  I really like this function; it's more accurate than my clock which is also on the desk along side the computer.
Thanks.
Howard
P.S.  I have to try setting up my email again on that machine.


Re: can't navigate using arrow keys in any edit fields

 

Hi all,

The keyboard navigation and announcement issues described is not the same as NVDA saying "hover" when you use arrow keys as described by the original poster. Here's a short sample of the situation I have seen with the log which describes what the original poster is talking about (removed timestamp and the text is formatted differently):

  1. Output: hover, hover, hover, hover
  2. Input: right arrow
  3. Output: some character, hover, hover, hover
  4. Input: NVDA+number row 4
  5. Output: hover, hover, speak command keys on, hover, hover, hover
  6. Input: left arrow
  7. Output: hover, left arrow, some character, hover, hover, hover

The actual "hover" announcement cycle is:

  1. Input: something holds down the touchscreen
  2. NVDA: sees it as a touchscreen gesture
  3. NVDA sees that this is a hover gesture and thinks the user is moving around the touchscreen with one finger without removing the finger
  4. NVDA says "hover"
  5. Cycle repeats at least once
  6. A different command is performed, say pressing arrow keys
  7. NVDA attempts to process the just pressed arrow keys while being bombarded with touchscreen gesture and announcing "hover" as a result
  8. After processing arrow keys, NVDA still notices soething is holding down the touchscreen, registering it as a hover gesture
  9. This cycle repeats until NVDA exits

To anyone experiencing what they believe is NVDA saying extraneous things when you press arrow keys, I need a log from you privately; but this time, please send the log to both I and NV Access (CC info@...) in case NV Access folks may have something to say while I'm taking a vacation for the next few weeks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: getting the time and date

 

Howard,

How, precisely, did you perform your reset?  That term means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, and the exact technique you used could be a part of your current quandry.  Also, knowing the make and model of your machine along with the Windows 10 Version and Build would be most helpful to potential assistants.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
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