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accessibility of Libre Office

Dan Beaver
 

How accessible is it with NVDA?  Would I need to install anything more to make it accessible?


Thanks, I am only doing this to try to help my wife figure out a problem she is having.



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Re: CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh, boring.  I might be tempted to send feedback about this, but I doubt they will answer.  This is how they are, never answering emails, never helping with support. They are not so code factory, or something.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Wettlaufer
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 8:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

Unfortunately you can't.  It seems like very obvious functionality though and I really wish they would add it.

Steve

On 2022-05-16 11:02 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you update the add on from within the add on? that is, can I hit a button to go to the website where the update is? As I don’t think I’ve updated this thing in a year, when I bought this thing in July, ok, not quite a year, but soon enough.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 4:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

A few days ago I submitted a ticket asking about exactly the same thing and they replied that they're working on it and that a new version should be out before the stable release of NVDA 2022.1.
Note this is the second time submitting a ticket about it; this time I chose the high priority. When I submitted a ticket first time I chose medium priority and got no response.
So...fingers cross for now and hope a new version of Codefactory is indeed released prior to the release of 2022.1 stable.


Re: CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

Steve Wettlaufer
 

Unfortunately you can't.  It seems like very obvious functionality though and I really wish they would add it.

Steve

On 2022-05-16 11:02 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you update the add on from within the add on? that is, can I hit a button to go to the website where the update is? As I don’t think I’ve updated this thing in a year, when I bought this thing in July, ok, not quite a year, but soon enough.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 4:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

A few days ago I submitted a ticket asking about exactly the same thing and they replied that they're working on it and that a new version should be out before the stable release of NVDA 2022.1.
Note this is the second time submitting a ticket about it; this time I chose the high priority. When I submitted a ticket first time I chose medium priority and got no response.
So...fingers cross for now and hope a new version of Codefactory is indeed released prior to the release of 2022.1 stable.


locked Re: Saving Outlet

 

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 09:55 AM, Jon W Parsons wrote:
How do I backup and save my outlet program and all my messages so I can put
them on my new computer?
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I am guessing, as Sarah has, that this is a question about how to port all existing email in an Outlook instance on one computer to another.

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Re: Add-on update notice: fixed Add-on Updater offering incompatible add-ons

Janet Brandly
 

We appreciate all the work you do. You definitely deserve a long disconnected vacation.

 

Janet

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: May 16, 2022 8:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on update notice: fixed Add-on Updater offering incompatible add-ons

 

Hi all,

Recently a number of add-ons were updated that require NVDA 2022.1, and these were approved for distribution on community add-ons website around 7:52 PM Pacific (UTC-7) on May 15, 2022. Around 1:11 AM on May 16th, I received a report from the add-ons list about compatibility messages with NVDA 2021.3.5 (the latest stable version as of time of this writing) and confirm that Add-on Updater was offering incompatible add-on updates to users. I have stopped Add-on Updater from offering add-on updates requiring NVDA 2022.1 around 1:36 AM Pacific.

While the update issue is resolved, I decided to inform you of what happened as Add-on Updater is my responsibility, and the described issue was part of a chain of events that led to folks experiencing confusion for a while. My sincerest apologies for this mishap.

P.S. A bigger factor: mental exhaustion due to me being a workaholic when it comes to everything NVDA. The events that led to the mishap described cannot be explained fully here, but what I can say is that as soon as graduate final exam is done this week and Windows App Essentials 22.06 is released next week, I’ll be looking for a great distraction from NVDA before I crash with mental exhaustion. This can partly explain why I’m not my usual self these days.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Re: Saving Outlet

Sarah k Alawami
 

If your email is iMap no need to save, it will all be in the cloud, just put
in your info and it will all dl to your computer, or at least the headers
will. Then you can click the messages to have the pics and text dl as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jon W Parsons
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Saving Outlet

I am buying a new computer.
How do I backup and save my outlet program and all my messages so I can put
them on my new computer?


Re: CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you update the add on from within the add on? that is, can I hit a button to go to the website where the update is? As I don’t think I’ve updated this thing in a year, when I bought this thing in July, ok, not quite a year, but soon enough.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 4:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

A few days ago I submitted a ticket asking about exactly the same thing and they replied that they're working on it and that a new version should be out before the stable release of NVDA 2022.1.
Note this is the second time submitting a ticket about it; this time I chose the high priority. When I submitted a ticket first time I chose medium priority and got no response.
So...fingers cross for now and hope a new version of Codefactory is indeed released prior to the release of 2022.1 stable.


Add-on update notice: fixed Add-on Updater offering incompatible add-ons

 

Hi all,

Recently a number of add-ons were updated that require NVDA 2022.1, and these were approved for distribution on community add-ons website around 7:52 PM Pacific (UTC-7) on May 15, 2022. Around 1:11 AM on May 16th, I received a report from the add-ons list about compatibility messages with NVDA 2021.3.5 (the latest stable version as of time of this writing) and confirm that Add-on Updater was offering incompatible add-on updates to users. I have stopped Add-on Updater from offering add-on updates requiring NVDA 2022.1 around 1:36 AM Pacific.

While the update issue is resolved, I decided to inform you of what happened as Add-on Updater is my responsibility, and the described issue was part of a chain of events that led to folks experiencing confusion for a while. My sincerest apologies for this mishap.

P.S. A bigger factor: mental exhaustion due to me being a workaholic when it comes to everything NVDA. The events that led to the mishap described cannot be explained fully here, but what I can say is that as soon as graduate final exam is done this week and Windows App Essentials 22.06 is released next week, I’ll be looking for a great distraction from NVDA before I crash with mental exhaustion. This can partly explain why I’m not my usual self these days.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Saving Outlet

Jon W Parsons
 

I am buying a new computer.
How do I backup and save my outlet program and all my messages so I can put
them on my new computer?


Re: NVDA repeating every Chinese character twice in Windows PowerShell

Rowen Cary
 

Hi,

Please check 'Use UI Automation to access the Windows Console when available' in the advanced settings panel.

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 07:59 PM, William wrote:

Hello all,

  1. Open Windows PowerShell

  2. Run the following python script: print('測試用文字')

  3. When you press Enter, the first time nvda will say '測試用文字'

  4. But if I use review cursor to go back to that line of text, NVDA will say ''測測試試用用文文字字' which repeating every character twice.

I am testing this with NVDA 2022.1 RC1, without installing any addon

windows 10 home ed 21h2

I try doing the same thing in Windows terminal preview, but the Chinese characters are correctly reported.

Here I attach the respective debug log for your reference.

Thanks.

William


Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Ken Perry
 

I tried running your code and it has errors. Can you try your code and make sure it works before you send it? Note things like the range function in the for loop and the sec variable is what I am talking bout.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Hello,

This question is partly related to NVDA and partly related to Windows PowerShell.


Supposed I have the following python script and stored in a python file
'test.py', which print out a new string of text after every second.


import time

for i in np.arange(10):

print('Sleeping', f"{str(round((i-1)/secs*100,
0)).removesuffix('.0')}%", end="\r", flush=True)

time.sleep(1)

1. I open Windows PowerShell

2. type python test.py

3. the script starts running

I am expecting that NVDA can automatically speak out the new string of
text, but in my test, after the first 'Spleeping...' was spoken, NVDA
did not speak the updated messages.


What can I do to make NVDA speak the updated messages? Thanks.

William


Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Gabriele Battaglia
 


Reply to William's message, wrote on 16/05/2022 at 12:10:
>do you have an example?

I'm not able to reproduce it at the moment. I tried this and it works.


#test
import time
for i in range(4):
  print(f"\nThis is number {i}",end="")
  time.sleep(0.8)
Could you please show me once more the piece of code you posted at the beginning?
Thanks.


Re: CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

A few days ago I submitted a ticket asking about exactly the same thing and they replied that they're working on it and that a new version should be out before the stable release of NVDA 2022.1.
Note this is the second time submitting a ticket about it; this time I chose the high priority. When I submitted a ticket first time I chose medium priority and got no response.
So...fingers cross for now and hope a new version of Codefactory is indeed released prior to the release of 2022.1 stable.


Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

William
 

Hi


Do you have the same issue also if you print a return, \n, after the
value?


do you have an example?


Gabriele Battaglia via groups.io 於 16/5/2022 17:45 寫道:

Reply to William's message, wrote on 16/05/2022 at 11:26:
Hi Gabe.

I just posted this question in nvda-dev but so far I have not received any feedback.

Ops. I hope someone answer later.

Do you have the same issue also if you print a return, \n, after the value?

Gabe.





Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Gabriele Battaglia
 

FYI

Powershell is not involved itself. It's matter of all console app.

I don't use Powershell but I have the same issue on command prompt.

Gabe.


Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Gabriele Battaglia
 

Reply to William's message, wrote on 16/05/2022 at 11:26:
Hi Gabe.

I just posted this question in nvda-dev but so far I have not received any feedback.

Ops. I hope someone answer later.

Do you have the same issue also if you print a return, \n, after the value?

Gabe.


Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

William
 

Hi Gabe.

I just posted this question in nvda-dev but so far I have not received any feedback.



Gabriele Battaglia via groups.io 於 16/5/2022 16:51 寫道:

Hi William.

I just joined the dev's group but I'm asking if you already posted this question there and if you got some answers.

I'm very interested in this topic because I have this issue also.

Thanks.


Gabe.





Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

Gabriele Battaglia
 

Hi William.

I just joined the dev's group but I'm asking if you already posted this question there and if you got some answers.

I'm very interested in this topic because I have this issue also.

Thanks.


Gabe.


Re: CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

Socheat
 

Yeah, ATGuys indeed supportive than CF, but unfortunately they just a reseller, so they can't do anything in term of compatibility breaking release.

------ Original Message ------
From "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
Date 5/15/2022 11:43:23 PM
Subject Re: [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

I’m not begiign to regret the choice but I am. I bought it through ATGuys who are wonderful but I have not even updated this thing since I bought it last July during a sale.  It’s sad really. AtGuys are better than CF in terms of support, I have had to talk to them and get help before.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Socheat
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

Code Factory always has poor support for everything. Also bought them too.

 

------ Original Message ------

From "Chris Smart" <ve3rwj@...>

Date 5/15/2022 2:18:21 AM

Subject [nvda] CodeFactory Eloquence with NVDA 2022.1?

 

Before I email CodeFactory, has anybody else gotten an answer from them as to when their add-on will work with NVDA 2022.1?

 

Chris, starting to wish I hadn’t given them my money


Re: Python pring function with flush=True NVDA not reading the updated messages in Windows PowerShell

William
 

Noted, thanks.

Quentin Christensen 於 16/5/2022 11:22 寫道:

Hi William,

You might get more responses for these Python questions in the NVDA developer group: https://groups.io/g/nvda-devel

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 7:04 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:
Hello,

This question is partly related to NVDA and partly related to Windows
PowerShell.


Supposed I have the following python script and stored in a python file
'test.py', which print out a new string of text after every second.


import time

for i in np.arange(10):

     print('Sleeping', f"{str(round((i-1)/secs*100,
0)).removesuffix('.0')}%", end="\r", flush=True)

     time.sleep(1)

1. I open Windows PowerShell

2. type python test.py

3. the script starts running

I am expecting that NVDA can automatically speak out the new string of
text, but in my test, after the first 'Spleeping...' was spoken, NVDA
did not speak the updated messages.


What can I do to make NVDA speak the updated messages? Thanks.

William











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