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Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:29 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Is acrobat any better than adobe reader d.c. for this kind of action?  [Which I'm presuming is the filling out of correctly created fillable PDF forms.]
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No.

Acrobat is, for most of us, cost prohibitive an most of us are not creating PDFs from scratch that require the bells and whistles in Adobe Acrobat, which is the granddaddy of all PDF editing software.

Adobe Reader has always worked just fine for filling out forms.
 
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Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Dave Grossoehme
 

Is acrobat any better than adobe reader d.c. for this kind of action?

Dave


On 5/19/2022 10:23 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:32 AM, Gene wrote:
I really like Edge for straight reading of text but it isn't good for more complex tasks.
-
Precisely.

If you intend to use actual fillable PDF forms, you really should be using Adobe Reader DC, Acrobat, or a dedicated PDF reader or editor that supports fillable PDFs.

Personally, and this is because of just this sort of thing, I refuse to allow browsers to open PDF files internally.  I have Firefox, Edge, Brave, and Vivaldi all set up such that PDF files are handed off to the PDF Viewer of my choosing and opened in it.   For me this is a classic "tool to task" kinda thing.  It's no different than having Word open up MS-Word file types that I might encounter somewhere on the web (and where I trust the source).
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
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Re: accessibility of Libre Office

JM Casey
 

Besides, I think it's only the database component of Libre that requires
Java Runtime.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: May 17, 2022 10:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of Libre Office

Hi Luke!

I did not know this. I stand corrected. Thanks for letting me know of
this!

Bye,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of Libre Office

Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Make sure that you have installed and are always running the Java
Access
Bridge.

Do you still find that necessary? NVDA has included JAVA Access Bridge for
about two and a half years now. My understanding is that you shouldn't need
to take any action. If you do, perhaps a bug report is in order.

From the 2019.3 changelog:

- The Java Access Bridge is now included with NVDA to enable access to Java
applications, including for 64 bit Java VMs. (#7724)
- If the Java Access Bridge is not enabled for the user, NVDA automatically
enables it at NVDA startup. (#7952)

Luke


Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not sure if you are aware there is a tutorial for the windows mail program on my website. The following link will put you on the page where it is at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

When you get to it jump down by headings  until you hear the one for the windows mail app.



I also have one for mozilla thunder bird at

http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

Any of the nvda tutorials can be gotten to from any of there pages unlike the blindness related stuff.

Hope it helps.


Gene nz

On 19/05/2022 8:24 pm, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi all.


I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not usable.


Is it really not usable or is that a microsoft app thing. Means, do i have to download it from a different source to get an accessible version?


Regards

Daniel





Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Luke Davis
 

Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

As i said, i don't even get to the account setup settings because with NVDA i seem to have a bluescreen. A sighted person could see all the things but that doesn't really help me.
Please try running the COM Registration Fixing tool in NVDA's tools menu (NVDA+N, T, R, Enter).

That may help with this and it won't hurt anything to try.

Then restart the machine and try with mail again.

Oh, and you shouldn't need to type "windows mail", just "mail".

Lastly: I agree with the others--use something else if you can. But still try the above tool, because if it would have fixed anything, it means other things are probably not as accessible as they could be.

Luke


Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Chris Smart
 

We keep asking for the actual file, and Bob doesn't supply it.
I can only assume it contains top secret information about an impending alien invasion or something. 😊

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nermin via groups.io
Sent: May 19, 2022 12:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for the third time, filling out a PDF

Hi, Bob,


Is there a link to the file you're trying to fill out?

Don't make assumptions, just because the files in question act the same way for you.

What if the file you are having issues with works on my system?


Regards,

Nermin


Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Nermin
 

Hi, Bob,


Is there a link to the file you're trying to fill out?

Don't make assumptions, just because the files in question act the same way for you.

What if the file you are having issues with works on my system?


Regards,

Nermin


Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Brian,
Is there a difference between Adobe Acrobat and Acrobat Reader DC? If
so, I am actually using DC.
Gene, your thoughts were mine exactly before about three months ago.
When I got this computer for Christmas, I didn't put Acrobat on it for
the first three months because I had found that Firefox rendered most
PDF files fine up until I found one that needed to be filled. If it
would work properly, I think PDF files that can be filled are much
easier to work with than those that need to be printed and filled out
by hand.
Re: sending the file. The reason I've refused to do so is because I'm
working with one, but have another I can test with, a third I opened
just for the heck of it, and the two Brian has sent, which all render
the same way. So, it's not an issue with the individual file.

On 5/19/22, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:32 AM, Gene wrote:


I really like Edge for straight reading of text but it isn't good for
more
complex tasks.
-
Precisely.

If you intend to use actual fillable PDF forms, you really should be using
Adobe Reader DC, Acrobat, or a dedicated PDF reader or editor that supports
fillable PDFs.

Personally, and this is because of just this sort of thing, I refuse to
allow browsers to open PDF files internally. I have Firefox, Edge, Brave,
and Vivaldi all set up such that PDF files are handed off to the PDF Viewer
of my choosing and opened in it. For me this is a classic "tool to task"
kinda thing. It's no different than having Word open up MS-Word file types
that I might encounter somewhere on the web (and where I trust the source).
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ignoring them.
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Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:46 AM, Gene wrote:
the reformatting of documents Acrobat does takes much longer than what Edge does about reformatting, if it does anything and for reading long documents, its faster for me as a blind person to use Edge.
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Gene,

Note, I constantly say, "tool to task."  That applies to everyone, not just me.   And if straight reading is what you are doing the vast majority of the time, the tool that's right for you is not necessarily the same one that's right for me.

Each user has to think about what their usual work tasks are for any given thing, and base their choices upon that.
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
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Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Gene
 

But for someone like me who almost never works with fillable forms or with PDF documents with tables, it is more efficient and convenient to have Edge open PDF documents.

the reformatting of documents Acrobat does takes much longer than what Edge does about reformatting, if it does anything and for reading long documents, its faster for me as a blind person to use Edge.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:32 AM, Gene wrote:
I really like Edge for straight reading of text but it isn't good for more complex tasks.
-
Precisely.

If you intend to use actual fillable PDF forms, you really should be using Adobe Reader DC, Acrobat, or a dedicated PDF reader or editor that supports fillable PDFs.

Personally, and this is because of just this sort of thing, I refuse to allow browsers to open PDF files internally.  I have Firefox, Edge, Brave, and Vivaldi all set up such that PDF files are handed off to the PDF Viewer of my choosing and opened in it.   For me this is a classic "tool to task" kinda thing.  It's no different than having Word open up MS-Word file types that I might encounter somewhere on the web (and where I trust the source).
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed



Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Daniel Sommerfeld
 

Hi all.


Wow. I didn't expect that much feedback from you. So i just took the last mail but the reply goes to all of you, who wrote about this topic.


Thank you for your feedback, points of view and especially thank you for the hint with the portable version of Thunderbird. I should give it another chance. I was just used to using windows things and so i was thinking, that it is still good. Microsofts seems to send all of thair products down hill. *grins*

But this is off topic. :-)


Thank you again. You all helped me a lot.


Regards

Daniel

Am 19.05.2022 um 15:45 schrieb Chris Mullins:

Deleted Items in Windows 10 mail go into the Trash folder.

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 19 May 2022 14:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

My only problem with Windows Mail is that there is not a deleted items folder.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: 19 May 2022 11:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Hi

I use the Mail app in Windows 10 and it is usable but rather less than feature rich.  If you are happy with something basic it will be OK.

Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 19 May 2022 09:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

 

> I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not

> usable.

 

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.

For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

 

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

 

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

 

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:32 AM, Gene wrote:
I really like Edge for straight reading of text but it isn't good for more complex tasks.
-
Precisely.

If you intend to use actual fillable PDF forms, you really should be using Adobe Reader DC, Acrobat, or a dedicated PDF reader or editor that supports fillable PDFs.

Personally, and this is because of just this sort of thing, I refuse to allow browsers to open PDF files internally.  I have Firefox, Edge, Brave, and Vivaldi all set up such that PDF files are handed off to the PDF Viewer of my choosing and opened in it.   For me this is a classic "tool to task" kinda thing.  It's no different than having Word open up MS-Word file types that I might encounter somewhere on the web (and where I trust the source).
--

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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Chris Mullins
 

Deleted Items in Windows 10 mail go into the Trash folder.

 

Cheers

                Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 19 May 2022 14:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

My only problem with Windows Mail is that there is not a deleted items folder.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: 19 May 2022 11:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Hi

I use the Mail app in Windows 10 and it is usable but rather less than feature rich.  If you are happy with something basic it will be OK.

Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 19 May 2022 09:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

 

> I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not

> usable.

 

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.

For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

 

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

 

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Peter Beasley
 

My only problem with Windows Mail is that there is not a deleted items folder.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: 19 May 2022 11:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Hi

I use the Mail app in Windows 10 and it is usable but rather less than feature rich.  If you are happy with something basic it will be OK.

Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 19 May 2022 09:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

 

> I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not

> usable.

 

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.

For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

 

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

 

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Gene
 

For those using the installed Thunderbird, here is an article about how to transfer your profile.  The article doesn't say this, but I think the profile should be backed up as you would any information you don't want to lose.
https://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/how-to-move-your-thunderbird-profile-email-to-a-new-windows-computer/

While the procedure as written isn't difficult, it is still faster and easier to copy the portable folder and also not spend time installing the program first. 

The information in this article looks reliable but I don't have other knowledge of it.  Others may want to comment.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 7:13 AM, Gene wrote:
I should add that Thunderbird has a portable version and that is the version I use.  I use it because I can keep a backup and, if anything goes wrong with the program, I don't have to troubleshoot or reinstall.  All I have to do is to remove the Thunderbird folder and copy the backup folder to the original location. 

And If I get a new computer, I don't have to install it.  All I have to do is to copy the Thunderbird folder from my old computer or from a backup on an external drive to the new computer.  I know you can install Thunderbird and then transfer your profile to the new installation and that may easily accomplish the same thing but it is still faster and easier to just copy the program.  And the program may become corrupt, though unlikely, and require reinstallation.  As I said, with the portable version, you just delete a folder and copy the backup folder.

As I said, the portable version has advantages I think are worth considering.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 7:03 AM, Gene wrote:
Since I don't know when you tried it, your feelings might be because the program wasn't as accessible as it has become in the last few years.  There is a Thunderbird add-on that allows you to use first letter navigation in the folder's tree view.  There is an NVDA add-on that allows you to change the order in which headers are shown and which ones are.

Many commands are what you would use in standard Windows e-mail programs, control r to reply, control n for new, for example, and autocomplete for addresses works well.

In short, if you don't know why you didn't like it, I would hope that you try it again. 

I don't like to see people pay for an e-mail program unless they have needs that go beyond the typical users. 

I've used Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail, and Thunderbird.  I liked Outlook Express the most from an accessibility standpoint, but with the improvements in Thunderbird accessibility, I consider both programs to be about equal now.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 5:13 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Rob, Michael and Gene.


As i said, i don't even get to the account setup settings because with NVDA i seem to have a bluescreen. A sighted person could see all the things but that doesn't really help me.


I can not say why, but i am not 100 percent satisfied with Thunderbird. It is just a feeling. No logical reasons.


And Michael, What is becky mail? I've never heard of it before.

Am 19.05.2022 um 11:44 schrieb Robert Doc Wright godfearer:
Describe to us the steps you took to set up an account?

On 5/19/2022 3:21 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Luke.


Well i entered windows mail in the windows search field and it opened but i didn't even manage to set up an account. To me with NVDA it looked like a bluescreen.


Is there a not so expensive way to use outlook? I mean, the pricing is kind of high, because you can only seem to purchase outlook with extras, that i don't need. Is there something like a plane outlook?


Regards

Daniel

Am 19.05.2022 um 10:44 schrieb Luke Davis:
Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not usable.

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.
For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

Luke















.




Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Gene
 

I should add that Thunderbird has a portable version and that is the version I use.  I use it because I can keep a backup and, if anything goes wrong with the program, I don't have to troubleshoot or reinstall.  All I have to do is to remove the Thunderbird folder and copy the backup folder to the original location. 

And If I get a new computer, I don't have to install it.  All I have to do is to copy the Thunderbird folder from my old computer or from a backup on an external drive to the new computer.  I know you can install Thunderbird and then transfer your profile to the new installation and that may easily accomplish the same thing but it is still faster and easier to just copy the program.  And the program may become corrupt, though unlikely, and require reinstallation.  As I said, with the portable version, you just delete a folder and copy the backup folder.

As I said, the portable version has advantages I think are worth considering.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 7:03 AM, Gene wrote:
Since I don't know when you tried it, your feelings might be because the program wasn't as accessible as it has become in the last few years.  There is a Thunderbird add-on that allows you to use first letter navigation in the folder's tree view.  There is an NVDA add-on that allows you to change the order in which headers are shown and which ones are.

Many commands are what you would use in standard Windows e-mail programs, control r to reply, control n for new, for example, and autocomplete for addresses works well.

In short, if you don't know why you didn't like it, I would hope that you try it again. 

I don't like to see people pay for an e-mail program unless they have needs that go beyond the typical users. 

I've used Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail, and Thunderbird.  I liked Outlook Express the most from an accessibility standpoint, but with the improvements in Thunderbird accessibility, I consider both programs to be about equal now.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 5:13 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Rob, Michael and Gene.


As i said, i don't even get to the account setup settings because with NVDA i seem to have a bluescreen. A sighted person could see all the things but that doesn't really help me.


I can not say why, but i am not 100 percent satisfied with Thunderbird. It is just a feeling. No logical reasons.


And Michael, What is becky mail? I've never heard of it before.

Am 19.05.2022 um 11:44 schrieb Robert Doc Wright godfearer:
Describe to us the steps you took to set up an account?

On 5/19/2022 3:21 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Luke.


Well i entered windows mail in the windows search field and it opened but i didn't even manage to set up an account. To me with NVDA it looked like a bluescreen.


Is there a not so expensive way to use outlook? I mean, the pricing is kind of high, because you can only seem to purchase outlook with extras, that i don't need. Is there something like a plane outlook?


Regards

Daniel

Am 19.05.2022 um 10:44 schrieb Luke Davis:
Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not usable.

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.
For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

Luke















.



Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Gene
 

Since I don't know when you tried it, your feelings might be because the program wasn't as accessible as it has become in the last few years.  There is a Thunderbird add-on that allows you to use first letter navigation in the folder's tree view.  There is an NVDA add-on that allows you to change the order in which headers are shown and which ones are.

Many commands are what you would use in standard Windows e-mail programs, control r to reply, control n for new, for example, and autocomplete for addresses works well.

In short, if you don't know why you didn't like it, I would hope that you try it again. 

I don't like to see people pay for an e-mail program unless they have needs that go beyond the typical users. 

I've used Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail, and Thunderbird.  I liked Outlook Express the most from an accessibility standpoint, but with the improvements in Thunderbird accessibility, I consider both programs to be about equal now.

Gene

On 5/19/2022 5:13 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Rob, Michael and Gene.


As i said, i don't even get to the account setup settings because with NVDA i seem to have a bluescreen. A sighted person could see all the things but that doesn't really help me.


I can not say why, but i am not 100 percent satisfied with Thunderbird. It is just a feeling. No logical reasons.


And Michael, What is becky mail? I've never heard of it before.

Am 19.05.2022 um 11:44 schrieb Robert Doc Wright godfearer:
Describe to us the steps you took to set up an account?

On 5/19/2022 3:21 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Luke.


Well i entered windows mail in the windows search field and it opened but i didn't even manage to set up an account. To me with NVDA it looked like a bluescreen.


Is there a not so expensive way to use outlook? I mean, the pricing is kind of high, because you can only seem to purchase outlook with extras, that i don't need. Is there something like a plane outlook?


Regards

Daniel

Am 19.05.2022 um 10:44 schrieb Luke Davis:
Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not usable.

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.
For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

Luke















.


Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I use the Mail app in Windows 10 and it is usable but rather less than feature rich.  If you are happy with something basic it will be OK.

Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 19 May 2022 09:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows mail with NVDA usable?

 

Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

 

> I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not

> usable.

 

It depends on what you are trying to do with it.

For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

 

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

 

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Daniel Sommerfeld
 

Hi Rob, Michael and Gene.


As i said, i don't even get to the account setup settings because with NVDA i seem to have a bluescreen. A sighted person could see all the things but that doesn't really help me.


I can not say why, but i am not 100 percent satisfied with Thunderbird. It is just a feeling. No logical reasons.


And Michael, What is becky mail? I've never heard of it before.

Am 19.05.2022 um 11:44 schrieb Robert Doc Wright godfearer:

Describe to us the steps you took to set up an account?

On 5/19/2022 3:21 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Luke.


Well i entered windows mail in the windows search field and it opened but i didn't even manage to set up an account. To me with NVDA it looked like a bluescreen.


Is there a not so expensive way to use outlook? I mean, the pricing is kind of high, because you can only seem to purchase outlook with extras, that i don't need. Is there something like a plane outlook?


Regards

Daniel

Am 19.05.2022 um 10:44 schrieb Luke Davis:
Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not usable.
It depends on what you are trying to do with it.
For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

Luke








Re: Windows mail with NVDA usable?

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Describe to us the steps you took to set up an account?

On 5/19/2022 3:21 AM, Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:
Hi Luke.


Well i entered windows mail in the windows search field and it opened but i didn't even manage to set up an account. To me with NVDA it looked like a bluescreen.


Is there a not so expensive way to use outlook? I mean, the pricing is kind of high, because you can only seem to purchase outlook with extras, that i don't need. Is there something like a plane outlook?


Regards

Daniel

Am 19.05.2022 um 10:44 schrieb Luke Davis:
Daniel Sommerfeld wrote:

I have tried Windows mail with NVDA and it seems to me, that it is not usable.
It depends on what you are trying to do with it.
For very basic reading, writing, and forwarding, it works well enough.

Some of its folder actions, selection options, etc., are not so very accessible.

Better to use Thunderbird or Outlook if you can.

Luke






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