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Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m going to be converting this into a table later for easier reading. Will paste it later in an email as I didn’t know there were that many key strokes.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote:

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

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     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actuallyu sending files is straight forward, I do this all the time. The unlabeled buttons are preview buttons. I just sent my mom a picture last night with the app. It’s fairly easy but a bit cludgy  to work with.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I downloaded the add on and the app is still quite bad. I'll be putting together that thing probably this weekend.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

I know nothing about Spanish also. But if you go to the first combo box at the site and select "English", Google will help translate it for you.
Hope it help.

On 21/5/2022 9:08 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Ok, my Spanish is not all that good to make out what the text says. Can there be a translated copy on the what's app desktop page?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah
Yong
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

Hi, have you tried the Whatsapp desktop add-on?

You can find it at this site:

https://nvda-addons.org/

Hope this help.

On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:
Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.














Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

 

Hi,

I second Brian's suggestion. Also, what is the editor (or an integrated development environment) you are using to write Python code? Because recommendations about editors and IDR's can cause a scroll bar toappear on web browsers (in some ways), let's discuss recommendations somewhere else such as the list Brian recommended.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

mike mcglashon
 

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Try using IndentNav add-on...


Rui Fontes


Às 15:32 de 21/05/2022, mr Krit Kumar kedia escreveu:

Hello all,
For many days, I have been learning python and working on some python projects. 


--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :
        print()
so, I have to go and check it word by word.
So I want to ask if there is any addon available for solving this problem.

Best,
Krit Kedia
diving into the world of technology!


Re: NVDA and Tables in Microsoft Word

 

I am presuming that you have visited the NVDA GitHub issues page, searched to see if an issue already exists and commented on it if it does, or created a new issue if it does not.

Your report is beautifully written and almost perfectly follows the format required for submitting an issue.  But this group is not the place where reporting issues is going to result in their being actually reviewed by the NVDA development team and added to the collection of issues to be fixed.  That occurs on GitHub.

Creating a Github Account

Creating an Issue in GitHub for NVDA
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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

 

You may get more traction on a question like this on a programming-focused group.  Not that the question is inappropriate here, but this group is focused on end users and NVDA and very few of them have direct programming experience, regardless of the language involved

Consider joining FreeLists / V.I. Programmers Discussion List.
You're more likely to get useful guidance, and more quickly, on such a list than you are here.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Problem of NVDA while working with python language

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hello all,
For many days, I have been learning python and working on some python projects. 


--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :
        print()
so, I have to go and check it word by word.
So I want to ask if there is any addon available for solving this problem.

Best,
Krit Kedia
diving into the world of technology!


Re: audible search box

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Here is what I have discovered. If you load the main audible page and then move to the button that says: 'submit search,' then switch to edit mode with NVDA key + space bar and then shift + tab once, you are placed in the search field. There is a lot of extraneous chatter when you do this, but if you do this, you can type in the search terms and then tab to the submit search button, press space bar and obtain the search results.

On 5/21/2022 9:43 AM, Monte Single wrote:
OK, I know this is off topic, but I will make two comments and say no more.
First, this is not a nvda problem, I get the same results with jaws.

Second. I created a shortcut that takes me to the "advanced search" in audible and this solved the problem.

Cheers.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: May 21, 2022 6:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audible search box

Hello,

I am seeing the same behavior and tabbing also does not help.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/21/22, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Enes,

I use the Canadian website at;

www.audible.ca


For the last week or more, when I go to the home page and press "e"
to be in the search edeit box, nvda tells me there is no edit field.
Tabbingdoes not help. Bringing up the list of elements does not help.
I told the audible help about this.
So, instead, I go to the advanced search and work from there.
A few extra keystrokes, but at least I get to search.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes
saribas
Sent: May 20, 2022 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audible search box

Hi all,

Have any of you noticed normal navigation doesn't apply to the
Audible search box? They have made a change where the combo box
editable cannot be navigated to by c or e/f. You have to use tab, and browse mode won't work.
However it is possible to type into it.

















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Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hello,
I read all the above messages and I have a solution:
I have made a video on NVDA with  whatsap desktop 
so you can refer to this as well.

Hope it helps,
Krit Kedia
diving into the world of technology!

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 5:34 PM Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote:

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed



Re: Can't install NVDA

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

try restoring NVDA settings, oops, is it not installed? reset pc settings

Em sex., 20 de mai. de 2022 às 22:43, Loy <loyrg2845@...> escreveu:

I was running the 2021 version of NVDA and it was working . I decided to try the 2022 beta, It would not install. The music would start and stop. I then uninstalled the 2021 version and tried to install 2022 version again, still will not install. I then tried to go back to 2021 and it would not install. I also tried to run as administrator. This is on a Win11 computer. I have another Win 11 computer and NVDA 2022 installed with no problem. Any Idea what would prevent NVDA from installing.



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Re: audible search box

Monte Single
 

OK, I know this is off topic, but I will make two comments and say no more.
First, this is not a nvda problem, I get the same results with jaws.

Second. I created a shortcut that takes me to the "advanced search" in audible and this solved the problem.

Cheers.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: May 21, 2022 6:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audible search box

Hello,

I am seeing the same behavior and tabbing also does not help.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 5/21/22, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Enes,

I use the Canadian website at;

www.audible.ca


For the last week or more, when I go to the home page and press "e"
to be in the search edeit box, nvda tells me there is no edit field.
Tabbingdoes not help. Bringing up the list of elements does not help.
I told the audible help about this.
So, instead, I go to the advanced search and work from there.
A few extra keystrokes, but at least I get to search.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes
saribas
Sent: May 20, 2022 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audible search box

Hi all,

Have any of you noticed normal navigation doesn't apply to the
Audible search box? They have made a change where the combo box
editable cannot be navigated to by c or e/f. You have to use tab, and browse mode won't work.
However it is possible to type into it.












Re: audible search box

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I am seeing the same behavior and tabbing also does not help.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 5/21/22, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Enes,

I use the Canadian website at;

www.audible.ca


For the last week or more, when I go to the home page and press "e" to be
in the search edeit box, nvda tells me there is no edit field.
Tabbingdoes not help. Bringing up the list of elements does not help.
I told the audible help about this.
So, instead, I go to the advanced search and work from there.
A few extra keystrokes, but at least I get to search.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: May 20, 2022 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audible search box

Hi all,

Have any of you noticed normal navigation doesn't apply to the Audible
search box? They have made a change where the combo box editable cannot be
navigated to by c or e/f. You have to use tab, and browse mode won't work.
However it is possible to type into it.












Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Christo de Klerk
 

Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote:

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed



Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA and Tables in Microsoft Word

William
 

As far as I remember, this issue has been discussed before.

I am also experiencing the same problem.



Sanjog Kumawat 於 21/5/2022 13:59 寫道:

Hello,

 

I am facing some issues with tables in Microsoft Word and NVDA. Following is the detailed explanation:

 

Issue Description

When UI automation is on, NVDA does not recognize tables in Microsoft Word, especially in browse mode. As a result, I cannot use Easy Table Navigator addon to navigate the table.

 

Steps to reproduce

  1. Open Microsoft Word document which has tables.
  2. Turn on NVDA with UI automation for Microsoft Word documents. One can set UI automation to anything except ‘Default’.
  3. Try reading and navigating the table in Word in browse mode of NVDA.

 

Expected Result

NVDA should recognize tables in both focus as well as browse modes, and they should be navigable using Easy Table Navigator addon.

 

Actual Result

NVDA does not recognize tables in word documents when UI automation is turned on, especially in browse mode.

 

Testing Environment

OS: Windows 11 Home Edition

Office Version: Microsoft Office 365 Enterprise (latest version)

Screen reader: NVDA 2022.1 RC2

 

Remarks

The same issue can be reproduced with NVDA 2021.3 and later. I use UI automation as I need to read and write STEM content.

However, NVDA recognizes tables in the focus mode even when UI automation is turned on and set as ‘Always’ in case of 2022.1 RC2. But in that case, I am unable to use Easy Table Navigator addon to navigate the table, and it is very hard to use Ctrl + Alt + arrow keys for a long time.

 

With Best Regards,

Sanjog Kumawat

Membership Support [Asia & Africa].

Contact us: +919284028466

Alternate Helpline number: +919650211575

[Mobile, WhatsApp and Google Duo]

Helpline Email ID: membership-india@...

 

              

 

Benetech

480 S. California Ave., Suite 201,

Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609, USA.

Bookshare Helpline - Asia & Africa

Contact us: +919650211575 

Alternate Helpline number: +919284028466

[Mobile, WhatsApp and Google Duo]:

Helpline Email ID: membership-india@...

Website: www.bookshare.org

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Ravindran V.S.
 

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


NVDA and Tables in Microsoft Word

Sanjog Kumawat
 

Hello,

 

I am facing some issues with tables in Microsoft Word and NVDA. Following is the detailed explanation:

 

Issue Description

When UI automation is on, NVDA does not recognize tables in Microsoft Word, especially in browse mode. As a result, I cannot use Easy Table Navigator addon to navigate the table.

 

Steps to reproduce

  1. Open Microsoft Word document which has tables.
  2. Turn on NVDA with UI automation for Microsoft Word documents. One can set UI automation to anything except ‘Default’.
  3. Try reading and navigating the table in Word in browse mode of NVDA.

 

Expected Result

NVDA should recognize tables in both focus as well as browse modes, and they should be navigable using Easy Table Navigator addon.

 

Actual Result

NVDA does not recognize tables in word documents when UI automation is turned on, especially in browse mode.

 

Testing Environment

OS: Windows 11 Home Edition

Office Version: Microsoft Office 365 Enterprise (latest version)

Screen reader: NVDA 2022.1 RC2

 

Remarks

The same issue can be reproduced with NVDA 2021.3 and later. I use UI automation as I need to read and write STEM content.

However, NVDA recognizes tables in the focus mode even when UI automation is turned on and set as ‘Always’ in case of 2022.1 RC2. But in that case, I am unable to use Easy Table Navigator addon to navigate the table, and it is very hard to use Ctrl + Alt + arrow keys for a long time.

 

With Best Regards,

Sanjog Kumawat

Membership Support [Asia & Africa].

Contact us: +919284028466

Alternate Helpline number: +919650211575

[Mobile, WhatsApp and Google Duo]

Helpline Email ID: membership-india@...

 

              

 

Benetech

480 S. California Ave., Suite 201,

Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609, USA.

Bookshare Helpline - Asia & Africa

Contact us: +919650211575 

Alternate Helpline number: +919284028466

[Mobile, WhatsApp and Google Duo]:

Helpline Email ID: membership-india@...

Website: www.bookshare.org

 

 

 

 


Re: audible search box

Monte Single
 

Hi Enes,

I use the Canadian website at;

www.audible.ca


For the last week or more, when I go to the home page and press "e" to be in the search edeit box, nvda tells me there is no edit field.
Tabbingdoes not help. Bringing up the list of elements does not help.
I told the audible help about this.
So, instead, I go to the advanced search and work from there.
A few extra keystrokes, but at least I get to search.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: May 20, 2022 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] audible search box

Hi all,

Have any of you noticed normal navigation doesn't apply to the Audible search box? They have made a change where the combo box editable cannot be navigated to by c or e/f. You have to use tab, and browse mode won't work. However it is possible to type into it.

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