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Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hi,

Thank you for your efforts.

Appreciate if it could be in English.

Also, if possible please do a video of how and what are the areas needs more accessibility with NVDA and buttons need labeling, send a video recording to the What’s App Support Team. They are willing to improve towards this from their end.

Thanks,

Ravi.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mr Krit Kumar kedia
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hello,

I read all the above messages and I have a solution:

I have made a video on NVDA with  whatsap desktop 

so you can refer to this as well.

 

Hope it helps,

Krit Kedia

diving into the world of technology!

 

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 5:34 PM Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote:

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hi,

This is great.

Thank you so much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 3:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA Remote Add-On Review and Demonstration

TheeQuinn Public
 

thank you


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Luke Davis
 

mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote:

--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :
You say it's not reading indentation properly. What are your line indentation settings in NVDA document settings configured to read indentations as: tones or speech?

I generally like tones myself, but I have a good memory for pitch.

Also, what editor are you using?

Luke
"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Carlos Medrano
 

That's what I use; the setting is under document formatting in the NVDA settings dialogue. Tones only play if the indent changes, so it's good enough for me. If you don't want tones playing everywhere, consider making a profile that is triggered when switching focus to your editor.


On 5/21/2022 10:29 AM, Ken Perry wrote:

Use indent announce with speech on or tones on if you have pitch perfect hearing.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mr Krit Kumar kedia
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem of NVDA while working with python language

 

Hello all,

For many days, I have been learning python and working on some python projects. 


 

--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :

        print()

so, I have to go and check it word by word.

So I want to ask if there is any addon available for solving this problem.

 

Best,

Krit Kedia

diving into the world of technology!

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

mike mcglashon
 

Quoting:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

End quote:

 

This is my problem, I have tried to tab around unsuccessfully and have never found any buttons to associate either answering a call, nor hanging up.

 

When you say “I seldom use it”, this tells me that you have used it in the past;

At least at some point; and,

It must have worked before.

 

If you “seldom use it”, then how do you answer calls and hang them up?

This is what I am looking for.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Also, you must have the chat in focus when you invoke the keystroke to make the call. Hope it help.

On 22/5/2022 6:57 am, Sim Kah Yong via groups.io wrote:

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Can't install NVDA

Cyrille
 

Hello

Please test NVDA2022.1rc2. Some issues have been fixed regarding crash at startup since then.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: NVDA and Tables in Microsoft Word

Cyrille
 

Hello

In addition to Brian's reply, I would recommend to separate NVDA's issue from EasyTableNAvigator's one.
Regarding EasyTableNavigator, there is already an issue opened. Please comment there.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: NVDA Remote Add-On Review and Demonstration

tim
 

Good job as always.

On 5/19/2022 6:56 PM, TheeQuinn Public wrote:
Hey everybody it's me again! I am back and with a big upload too. It took me two days to record, edit, and write the transcript so hopefully you guys will find it helpful. I took a break from my html series to bring you a add-on review. This is a review and demonstration of the NVDA Remote Access add-on. Enjoy! And remember that your feedback is much appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NatxdIc_K0I


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Ken Perry
 

Use indent announce with speech on or tones on if you have pitch perfect hearing.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mr Krit Kumar kedia
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem of NVDA while working with python language

 

Hello all,

For many days, I have been learning python and working on some python projects. 


 

--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :

        print()

so, I have to go and check it word by word.

So I want to ask if there is any addon available for solving this problem.

 

Best,

Krit Kedia

diving into the world of technology!

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I redid the document and corrected some spelling mistakes. There are tables and a toc that shows what is necessary. Here is the link on WeTramsfer. It will be around for a week.

 

https://we.tl/t-ytgEUyyXeq

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I redid the document and included all tables where they should have been. Here it is reproduced.

 

 

Intro

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:

Control + comma

Settings

Control + P

  Profile and About

control + M

Open the chat menu

control + G

Open the general menu of WhatsApp

Control + Shift + M

  Mute chat

Control + Shift + D

Delete Chat

Control + Shift + N

 Add new group participant in chat.

Control + Shift + U

Mark as unread

Control + Shift + E

Archive Chat

Control + Shift + P

Pin and unpin Chat

Control + Shift + T

announce chat in focus

Control + F

Search chat

Control + N

New Chat

Control + shift + F

Enable chat message search

Control + 1 to 9

 Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box

Alt + 1 to 9

 Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.

Page up

Go back 5 messages in the list

Page down

Advance 5 messages in the list

Control + Tab

 move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box

Control + Shift + Tab

 move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box

Control + Shift + A

 Open attachment panel.

control + shift + C

Copy the text of the message with the focus

control + L

 Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.

Alt + Enter

 Download the message file when it contains one

Alt + downm arrow

 activate the read more button of text mesages.

Control + R

 Start and send voice message.

Enter

 Play or stop voice messages with focus

SPACEBAR

 Switch between playback speeds of a voice message

control + T

 Know how long the voice message with focus has been played

Shift + fullstop

 Increas speed of selected voice message

Shift + comma

 Decrease speed of selected voice message

Alt + Control + Enter

 Move focus to the message you reply to.

Right arrow

 Open context menu of message with focus

Right arrow

 Open context menu of chat with focus

Alt + control + L

 Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus

Alt + control + V

 Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus



Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:

mark and unmark the message with focus

SPACEBAR.

Verbalize the number of selected messages

S.

Forward the selected messages

R.

Delete the selected messages

Delete

Highlight the selected messages

D. Cannot work

Exit selection mode

Q.

 

 

Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m going to be converting this into a table later for easier reading. Will paste it later in an email as I didn’t know there were that many key strokes.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote:

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actuallyu sending files is straight forward, I do this all the time. The unlabeled buttons are preview buttons. I just sent my mom a picture last night with the app. It’s fairly easy but a bit cludgy  to work with.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I downloaded the add on and the app is still quite bad. I'll be putting together that thing probably this weekend.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

I know nothing about Spanish also. But if you go to the first combo box at the site and select "English", Google will help translate it for you.
Hope it help.

On 21/5/2022 9:08 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Ok, my Spanish is not all that good to make out what the text says. Can there be a translated copy on the what's app desktop page?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah
Yong
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

Hi, have you tried the Whatsapp desktop add-on?

You can find it at this site:

https://nvda-addons.org/

Hope this help.

On 20/5/2022 11:05 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:
Hello Team,
Greetings!
NVDA accessibility with the What's App desktop application is very poor as at now.
As suggested by the NVDA Team earlier, I contacted the WA Support Team and they are very positive to improve on this area.
However, they requested me to send a video demo of the way it works in the desktop.
But, my several attempts to record the issues in short videos did not work. For some reason even videos of 7 minutes or 5 minutes could not be sent from my phone.
In the initial page, NVDA just says "Button" without the labels."
Also, opening any attachments, video or audio is not simple with a click.
Scrolling through the chat list is also a concern as at now.
There may be more.
Therefore, would someone here with technical expertise be able to do a video recording and send to the WA Support Team as the accessibility issues please?
Thank you, have a pleasant day!
Ravi.














Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

 

Hi,

I second Brian's suggestion. Also, what is the editor (or an integrated development environment) you are using to write Python code? Because recommendations about editors and IDR's can cause a scroll bar toappear on web browsers (in some ways), let's discuss recommendations somewhere else such as the list Brian recommended.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

mike mcglashon
 

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Try using IndentNav add-on...


Rui Fontes


Às 15:32 de 21/05/2022, mr Krit Kumar kedia escreveu:

Hello all,
For many days, I have been learning python and working on some python projects. 


--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :
        print()
so, I have to go and check it word by word.
So I want to ask if there is any addon available for solving this problem.

Best,
Krit Kedia
diving into the world of technology!

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