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Re: Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Sarah k Alawami
 

It will, but not in all emails. I have heard this in groups.io emails where the equals signs are not rendered as how ever many they are.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 12:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.

On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string
of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read
"equal, equal, repeated 22 times".

NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously,
Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or
JAWS has such feature? Thank you.








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Re: Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually nvda dos have said option where it will only read I think 3 if the equals, but for the life of me I can't remember where in the setting is. I would just start poking around until it is found for now.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 12:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal, repeated 22 times".

NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.


Re: Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

you can disable scores by pressing NVDA plus the letter p, this will allow you to toggle through the scoring options

Em dom., 22 de mai. de 2022 às 05:51, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> escreveu:

Thanks for that. I also confirm that NVDA will  say "22 equal" when I
type 22 equal signs on any document.

What I encountered is different. In my email, JAWS  NVDA and Narrator
will say "graphic equal" (many times). I am using NVDA 2021.35 and
Thunderbird91.9.0 (32-bit). I think it is a form of graphic showing many
equal signs. Thanks.


On 22/5/2022 3:51 pm, Jackie wrote:
> NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive
> equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.
>
> On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
>> Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of
>> "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read
>> "equal, equal,  repeated 22 times".
>>
>> NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously,
>> Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or
>> JAWS has such feature? Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>







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More data on NVDA and gmail speech loss

Christopher Bartlett
 

A couple of weeks back, I reported a problem with NVDA losing speech while scrolling through my gmail list.  I've since installed 2022.1RC2, and tweaked some profile settings for Chrome specifically.  I can now report that, when I lose speech, and have to alt-tab away and back to regain it, NVDA changes from my chrome profile to my generic profile.  I can tell because my speech rates differ between these two profiles.

Christopher Bartlett


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Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hello all,
here, I would like to tell you that I am using VS code for writing python.
Actually, I did  not knowing, that we can turn on the option of speaking indentation by NVDA in the document formatting settings. 
Thanks for telling me.


Best regards,
Krit Kedia
...,

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 6:00 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote:

> --While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :

You say it's not reading indentation properly. What are your line indentation
settings in NVDA document settings configured to read indentations as: tones or
speech?

I generally like tones myself, but I have a good memory for pitch.

Also, what editor are you using?

Luke
"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.  I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk






Re: Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Sim Kah Yong
 

Thanks for that. I also confirm that NVDA will  say "22 equal" when I type 22 equal signs on any document.

What I encountered is different. In my email, JAWS  NVDA and Narrator will say "graphic equal" (many times). I am using NVDA 2021.35 and Thunderbird91.9.0 (32-bit). I think it is a form of graphic showing many equal signs. Thanks.

On 22/5/2022 3:51 pm, Jackie wrote:
NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive
equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.

On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of
"equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read
"equal, equal,  repeated 22 times".

NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously,
Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or
JAWS has such feature? Thank you.








Re: Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Jackie
 

NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive
equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.

On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of
"equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read
"equal, equal,  repeated 22 times".

NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously,
Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or
JAWS has such feature? Thank you.







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Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read "equal, equal,  repeated 22 times".

NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously, Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or JAWS has such feature? Thank you.


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi Mike,

I notice that what I have related only works when I am focused on Whatsapp desktop when the call comes in.

However, when the call comes in when I am not focused on Whatsapp desktop, for example, when I am working on a MS Word document, then I have problem getting focus on the popup window.

If anyone has a solution, please share.

Thanks.

On 22/5/2022 2:04 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Thank you so much.

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 2:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi Mike

I tried it again and this is what I find.

1. When you received a voice call, a window will popup. You can tab around, you will find the following button - "ignore", "decline" and "accept". Press enter on the intended button.

2.  While you are on the call, a window will popup.  You will tab around and you will find the following buttons:  "end call",  "request to switch to video call", "mute microphone toggle", "menu toggle", ". Press enter on the function you want.

Hope this help. Thanks.

On 22/5/2022 7:08 am, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

End quote:

 

This is my problem, I have tried to tab around unsuccessfully and have never found any buttons to associate either answering a call, nor hanging up.

 

When you say “I seldom use it”, this tells me that you have used it in the past;

At least at some point; and,

It must have worked before.

 

If you “seldom use it”, then how do you answer calls and hang them up?

This is what I am looking for.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
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Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

mike mcglashon
 

Thank you so much.

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 2:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi Mike

I tried it again and this is what I find.

1. When you received a voice call, a window will popup. You can tab around, you will find the following button - "ignore", "decline" and "accept". Press enter on the intended button.

2.  While you are on the call, a window will popup.  You will tab around and you will find the following buttons:  "end call",  "request to switch to video call", "mute microphone toggle", "menu toggle", ". Press enter on the function you want.

Hope this help. Thanks.

On 22/5/2022 7:08 am, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

End quote:

 

This is my problem, I have tried to tab around unsuccessfully and have never found any buttons to associate either answering a call, nor hanging up.

 

When you say “I seldom use it”, this tells me that you have used it in the past;

At least at some point; and,

It must have worked before.

 

If you “seldom use it”, then how do you answer calls and hang them up?

This is what I am looking for.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi Mike

I tried it again and this is what I find.

1. When you received a voice call, a window will popup. You can tab around, you will find the following button - "ignore", "decline" and "accept". Press enter on the intended button.

2.  While you are on the call, a window will popup.  You will tab around and you will find the following buttons:  "end call",  "request to switch to video call", "mute microphone toggle", "menu toggle", ". Press enter on the function you want.

Hope this help. Thanks.

On 22/5/2022 7:08 am, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

End quote:

 

This is my problem, I have tried to tab around unsuccessfully and have never found any buttons to associate either answering a call, nor hanging up.

 

When you say “I seldom use it”, this tells me that you have used it in the past;

At least at some point; and,

It must have worked before.

 

If you “seldom use it”, then how do you answer calls and hang them up?

This is what I am looking for.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hi,

Thank you for your efforts.

Appreciate if it could be in English.

Also, if possible please do a video of how and what are the areas needs more accessibility with NVDA and buttons need labeling, send a video recording to the What’s App Support Team. They are willing to improve towards this from their end.

Thanks,

Ravi.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mr Krit Kumar kedia
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hello,

I read all the above messages and I have a solution:

I have made a video on NVDA with  whatsap desktop 

so you can refer to this as well.

 

Hope it helps,

Krit Kedia

diving into the world of technology!

 

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 5:34 PM Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Many thanks. This will be extremely helpful.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2022/05/21 11:36am, Sim Kah Yong wrote:

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hi,

This is great.

Thank you so much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 3:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA Remote Add-On Review and Demonstration

TheeQuinn Public
 

thank you


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Luke Davis
 

mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote:

--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :
You say it's not reading indentation properly. What are your line indentation settings in NVDA document settings configured to read indentations as: tones or speech?

I generally like tones myself, but I have a good memory for pitch.

Also, what editor are you using?

Luke
"I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I only know what I can do." -James T. Kirk


Re: Problem of NVDA while working with python language

Carlos Medrano
 

That's what I use; the setting is under document formatting in the NVDA settings dialogue. Tones only play if the indent changes, so it's good enough for me. If you don't want tones playing everywhere, consider making a profile that is triggered when switching focus to your editor.


On 5/21/2022 10:29 AM, Ken Perry wrote:

Use indent announce with speech on or tones on if you have pitch perfect hearing.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mr Krit Kumar kedia
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem of NVDA while working with python language

 

Hello all,

For many days, I have been learning python and working on some python projects. 


 

--While writing python classes, functions, loops etc I am facing a problem that NVDA is not reading the indentation properly Eg If I have written :

        print()

so, I have to go and check it word by word.

So I want to ask if there is any addon available for solving this problem.

 

Best,

Krit Kedia

diving into the world of technology!

 


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

mike mcglashon
 

Quoting:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

End quote:

 

This is my problem, I have tried to tab around unsuccessfully and have never found any buttons to associate either answering a call, nor hanging up.

 

When you say “I seldom use it”, this tells me that you have used it in the past;

At least at some point; and,

It must have worked before.

 

If you “seldom use it”, then how do you answer calls and hang them up?

This is what I am looking for.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Also, you must have the chat in focus when you invoke the keystroke to make the call. Hope it help.

On 22/5/2022 6:57 am, Sim Kah Yong via groups.io wrote:

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA with WhatsApp.

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi, responding to your questions:

1. The keystroke does not answer an incoming call. When you receiving an incoming call, a window will popup. You will have to tab your way to a button which says something like "answer". I am not very sure of the name of the button as I seldom use it.

2.  When you are already on the call, there is a window which popup and when you want to end the call, you will have to tab to a button which says something like "End call". I am not sure of the exact name as I seldom use it.

I remember it is somewhat difficult to gain focus on the popup window. If anyone has experience can respond will  be helpful. Thanks.

On 21/5/2022 11:13 pm, mike mcglashon wrote:

Quoting:

Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
End quote:

 

So, does this keystroke also answer an incoming call as well?

And,

If I am already on a call, does it hang up the call too?

 

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Hi, if you have the Whatsapp desktop add-on installed, you will be able to use the following hotkeys and shortcuts. Some of them are already found in Whatsapp desktop itself. I hope it help. Thanks.

Whatsapp Desktop with NVDA

Keyboard Shortcuts within Whatsapp Desktop:
Control + comma: Settings
Control + P:  Profile and About
control + M: Open the chat menu
control + G: Open the general menu of WhatsApp
Control + Shift + M:  Mute chat
Control + Shift + D: Delete Chat
Control + Shift + N : Add new group participant in chat.
Control + Shift + U: Mark as unread
Control + Shift + E: Archive Chat
Control + Shift + P: Pin and unpin Chat
Control + Shift + T: announce chat in focus
Control + F: Search chat
Control + N: New Chat
Control + shift + F: Enable chat message search
Control + 1 to 9 : Move to the corresponding chat group and place the cursur on the text box
Alt + 1 to 9 : Move focus to the corresponding messages in a chat group. Cursor need to be at edit box.
Page up: Go back 5 messages in the list
Page down: Advance 5 messages in the list
Control + Tab : move to the next chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + Tab : move to the previous chat and place the cursur on the text box
Control + Shift + A : Open attachment panel.
control + shift + C: Copy the text of the message with the focus
control + L : Open the link of the message with focus in the default browser.
Alt + Enter : Download the message file when it contains one
Alt + downm arrow : activate the read more button of text mesages.
Control + R : Start and send voice message.
Enter : Play or stop voice messages with focus
SPACEBAR : Switch between playback speeds of a voice message
control + T : Know how long the voice message with focus has been played
Shift + fullstop : Increas speed of selected voice message
Shift + comma : Decrease speed of selected voice message
Alt + Control + Enter : Move focus to the message you reply to.
Right arrow : Open context menu of message with focus
Right arrow : Open context menu of chat with focus
Alt + control + L : Start and end a voice call to the chat contact with the focus
Alt + control + V : Start and end a video call to the chat contact with the focus

Selection mode instructions:
To activate the selection mode open the context menu of the message with focus, either with control + M, or with the applications key.
Once the menu is opened, move with down arrows to the option select messages, which must be activate with enter.
Press Alt + right arrow to bring focus on list of messages.

Selection mode shortcuts:
• mark and unmark the message with focus: SPACEBAR.
• Verbalize the number of selected messages: S.
• Forward the selected messages: R.
• Delete the selected messages: Delete
• Highlight the selected messages: D. Cannot work
• Exit selection mode: Q.
Depending on the selected function, the corresponding window will be activated. The contact selection in the case of forwarding, the confirmation window in the case of message deletion, etc.

Tips:
• Instead of opening the emoji panel, you can search for emojis directly using the colon shortcut. When
you type the colon : followed by the emoji name, WhatsApp will show related emojis. All you need to do is press the Enter key to insert it. You can navigate
between the emojis using the arrow keys on your keyboard. For instance, if you want to add the mask emoji, type :mask. The results will start showing when you enter two characters at least.
• You can change the font, make your text bold or italic using the shortcuts.
1. Put text in asterisks to bold it. For instance, *hello*
2. Place underscore on both sides to italicize the text. For instance, _Guidingtech_
3. Use tilde on both ends to strikethrough your message. Example: ~GT~
4. To change the font, place three backticks on both sides of the text. Example: ```Hey```

On 21/5/2022 2:16 pm, Ravindran V.S. wrote:

Of course it seems to have many useful tips.

Only issue is that, if it has an English version or translation would have been more helpful.

But, here too the buttons are not labeled. And the other process are also not straight forward. Have to get things with a gamble.

That’s why I feel if someone could please record an send it to the WA Support am, they might do better to improve accessibility with this app.

Thanks again for sharing.

Ravi.

 

From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2022 11:08 AM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

Thank you for sharing.

Let me go through it to see of the useful tips.

Regards,

Ravi.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with WhatsApp.

 

The following 30 minute YouTube tutorial, How to access whatsapp in laptop or desktop using NVDA screen reader by Saagar SK, may prove helpful to you.  It dates from the end of 2021, so isn't very old.

The tutorial narration is not in English.  I am not "good enough" with the languages of India to say which one it actually is.  NVDA itself is announcing in English throughout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Can't install NVDA

Cyrille
 

Hello

Please test NVDA2022.1rc2. Some issues have been fixed regarding crash at startup since then.

Cheers,

Cyrille

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