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Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I always set Caps Lock as an NVDA modifier Because as a touch typist, it is more convenient to have a modifier key on each side of the keyboard to facilitate command entry.   For the same reason, I always get an external keyboard with 2 Windows keys.  

 

I rarely type in all capitals so the double press of the Caps Lock to engage capital input is not an issue as using the shift key is not difficult.

 

Cheers

                Chris

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From: William
Sent: 23 May 2022 04:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

Hi all,

 

I would like to ask for your opinion.

 

Some new NVDA users, including desktop and laptop owners, will ask for

my opinion on whether they should set the Capslock as the NVDA key.

 

With regard to desktop and laptop environment, the logic that I have

provided them are as follows:

 

1. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have to press the key two times

in order to input capital letters. But if you have to frequently press

the Capslock key to type capital letters, then setting Capslock key as

NVDA key will not be a good option.

 

2. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have one more option of NVDA

key, which you can choose from using the Capslock key or Insert key as

the NVDA key. But if you do not set Capslock as NVDA key, you will most

probably have to limit to pressing Insert key (laptop) or Insert key or

Numpad 0 (desktop).

 

 

How would you advice new NVDA users if they own a desktop or laptop

regarding this issue? thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

it's up to the user's preference, he will decide if he wants one key or another. the computer is his, so he must know how to choose what is best for him
but anyway I think it would be better to leave all keys enabled, you never know when you will have a problem with these keys

Em seg., 23 de mai. de 2022 às 02:01, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> escreveu:

Well its prefference.
I mean I like the capslock as modifier key because of its central location.
And I set all my boxes like that but insert on my laptop is not in the
right place and I have got used to it.
Caps lock is always in the same place.
Of course if you need to use caps a lot then maybe not no rule its
user experience.

On 23/05/2022, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
> I use the capslock key even in desktop mode as  for me the keys just make
> better sence. I don't mind hitting capslock twice, this actually has saved
> me from oopsies, such as shouthign at people. Lol!
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 8:14 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as
> NVDA key
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> Hi all,
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> I would like to ask for your opinion.
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> Some new NVDA users, including desktop and laptop owners, will ask for my
> opinion on whether they should set the Capslock as the NVDA key.
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> With regard to desktop and laptop environment, the logic that I have
> provided them are as follows:
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> 1. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have to press the key two times in
> order to input capital letters. But if you have to frequently press the
> Capslock key to type capital letters, then setting Capslock key as NVDA key
> will not be a good option.
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> 2. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have one more option of NVDA key,
> which you can choose from using the Capslock key or Insert key as the NVDA
> key. But if you do not set Capslock as NVDA key, you will most probably have
> to limit to pressing Insert key (laptop) or Insert key or Numpad 0
> (desktop).
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> How would you advice new NVDA users if they own a desktop or laptop
> regarding this issue? thanks.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

When Joseph refers to other apps such as Windows 10/11 Alarms and Clock app, is this an NVDA app or is it something built into Windows itself?

On 5/23/2022 4:33 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

I see that Clock and Calendar add-on is not showing as compatible with just released NVDA 2022.1. There is a story to that:

A few months ago, folks from NVDA add-ons community reached out to the original author of Clock add-on about add-on maintenance, and the author noted that he will not be able to maintain it. I, the last known maintainer of this add-on, have long ago abandoned maintenance of this add-on (back in December 2021) with no plans for NVDA 2022.1 compatibility then. The add-ons community was and still is looking for maintainers of this add-on. But for now:

I hereby announce that Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support. There are no plans for future releases, and compatibility with future NVDA releases cannot be guaranteed. Please use alternatives such as Windows 10 and 11 Alarms and Clock app or other apps and services offering time keeping/calendar/stopwatch/timer features. The add-on may become supported again if new maintainers step forward to maintain this add-on.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Dave Grossoehme
 

Sorry I'm late on this information.  However, it would sound like something is hanging up the response of NVDA and Adobe to tell the user that the application is being loaded.  I have questioned this action being a problem when using Windows 11, but is this a UAI Problem, or something with NVDA or Adobe?

Dave


On 5/20/2022 6:59 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Well, when I open the form Bob gave the link for, I eventually end up having it act just like any random web form would in terms of tabbing through the form fields.  There are also a number of checkboxes to indicate a given piece of equipment in the list has been returned and these are on the second page of the form.

But note well, I said "eventually."  I can't make any sense of what's going on, and am not getting any useful status either from Adobe or from NVDA with regard to whether there is background processing going on by the Accessibility Wizard to hand information to NVDA that it would not otherwise have.  But whatever is happening it is NOT fast.  I can play around for at least 1 minute, possibly somewhat longer, whether via point and click or using tab to move among the various fields.  Then, after waiting for a while, suddenly tabbing between the fields gives the field label, including the colon that's a part of each label, when you land in the various fields.

Very strange.  No rational person would expect a lag like this between opening a document and being able to use it with a screen reader sans any sort of warning that they needed to wait for something to finish before they start.

I am using Windows 10, Version 21H2, Build 19044.1076
Adobe Reader DC 2022.001.20117
NVDA 2021.3.5
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Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

I figure they were working on it.

 

I have to admit I have not been reading everything that came across the list, so there may have been posted some kind of warning about this issue.

 

Regardless, this is not a showstopper for me.

 

I am sure NVDA developers had a good reason for the changes that were made, and NVDA’s advantages outweigh any temporary loss of convenience.  Choice is a good thing, and NVDA gives us one more choice.

 

Actually, the thing I like the best about NVDA is that the screen review method is a little similar to the old DOS screen reader ASAP, and that was my number one go-to in my DOS days.  I still have my copy of ASAP and pull it out whenever I access a DOS program.

 

I’ll keep checking CodeFactory’s Web site.


should I keep these add ons

ken lawrence
 

Hi list as of the 22.1 update team talk and winamp add ons are disabled. Any timeline on when these will be updated?  Also will the add on updater alert me to new updated versions of them?  Not really a problem the basic winamp functions are still there and teamtalk is still working so went ahead with the update.  Will the updater alert me to new versions even though the add ons are disabled. 

 

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Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.


Re: addons for nvda 2022.1

 

Ok found released 2.3 easy table nav and downloaded it so ok.


On 23/05/2022 9:01 pm, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:
Hello

For EasyTableNavigator, Corentin had taken over the maintenance a few month ago. He had submitted a 2022.1 compatible version but has hold off on its distribution due to bugs in Word with UIA. He should be investigating but I have no news.
Please comment on the GitHub's repo if needed. Maybe it would be worth distributing the bugged version at least to deal with tables on webpages.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: addons for nvda 2022.1

 


Well its not even on the github repo at all.



On 23/05/2022 9:01 pm, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:
Hello

For EasyTableNavigator, Corentin had taken over the maintenance a few month ago. He had submitted a 2022.1 compatible version but has hold off on its distribution due to bugs in Word with UIA. He should be investigating but I have no news.
Please comment on the GitHub's repo if needed. Maybe it would be worth distributing the bugged version at least to deal with tables on webpages.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: addons for nvda 2022.1

Corentin BACQUÉ-CAZENAVE
 

Hi everyone,

I just open a PR on AddonFiles repo to distribute the 2022.1 compatible version. Unfortunately I couldn't fix the UIA bug for now.

Le 23/05/2022 à 11:01, Cyrille via groups.io a écrit :
Hello

For EasyTableNavigator, Corentin had taken over the maintenance a few month ago. He had submitted a 2022.1 compatible version but has hold off on its distribution due to bugs in Word with UIA. He should be investigating but I have no news.
Please comment on the GitHub's repo if needed. Maybe it would be worth distributing the bugged version at least to deal with tables on webpages.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: addons for nvda 2022.1

Cyrille
 

Hello

For EasyTableNavigator, Corentin had taken over the maintenance a few month ago. He had submitted a 2022.1 compatible version but has hold off on its distribution due to bugs in Word with UIA. He should be investigating but I have no news.
Please comment on the GitHub's repo if needed. Maybe it would be worth distributing the bugged version at least to deal with tables on webpages.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 


actually emoticons has released an update.

For if interpretors I have modified the manafest, there are issues open on the github for this.

easy table navigator, extended winamp, a few others.

zoom enhancements does have addons on community.

vlc does to but addon updater aint catching it but its there.

99.9% of addons are compatible.



On 23/05/2022 5:11 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I have six incompatible add ons so I also am going to delay upgrading.  I see that none of them have released compatible add ons as of hyet.

Lions intelligent OCR
Enhanced Winamp
Clock
Day of the week
emoticons
enhanced phonetic reading

I hope they upgrade these soon.


On 5/22/2022 10:24 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well Just to let you all know I am using klat 6 and I love that voice.  I gave up on code factory because my trile would expire every the server went down and the voices would sound very crackly.  If you are looking for a good voice I would go with klatt 6.

On 5/22/2022 10:15 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi listers:

 

Well, I’ve seen the update to NVDA 2022.1, but, I’m going to hold off on updating for what I hope are just a few days while I wait for an updated add-in for the Vocalizer and Eloquence voice package from CodeFactory.

 

I haven’t seen anything that I’d call earth-shattering about this 2022.1 update, but, I am on Windows 11, so maybe there are good things under the hood.

 

Any thoughts?


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Re: IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz <zvonimirek222@...>
 

Hi,

I hereby declare, that i am going to step in when it comes to write thee support for the latest NVDA version.

Best,

Zvonimir

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

 

Hi everyone,

I see that Clock and Calendar add-on is not showing as compatible with just released NVDA 2022.1. There is a story to that:

A few months ago, folks from NVDA add-ons community reached out to the original author of Clock add-on about add-on maintenance, and the author noted that he will not be able to maintain it. I, the last known maintainer of this add-on, have long ago abandoned maintenance of this add-on (back in December 2021) with no plans for NVDA 2022.1 compatibility then. The add-ons community was and still is looking for maintainers of this add-on. But for now:

I hereby announce that Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support. There are no plans for future releases, and compatibility with future NVDA releases cannot be guaranteed. Please use alternatives such as Windows 10 and 11 Alarms and Clock app or other apps and services offering time keeping/calendar/stopwatch/timer features. The add-on may become supported again if new maintainers step forward to maintain this add-on.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Pele West
 

Hi everyone

Does anyone know if there are plans to update the IBM TTS, Braille Extender and Winamp addons to work with NVDA 2022.1?

Thanks

Pele West


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Darren Harris
 

I must admit I wish I had held off now I’m regretting it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 23 May 2022 09:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Hi,

Let us discuss specific code rewrites on add-ons list.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Hi,

Let us discuss specific code rewrites on add-ons list.

Cheers,

Joseph


IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

 

Hi everyone,

I see that Clock and Calendar add-on is not showing as compatible with just released NVDA 2022.1. There is a story to that:

A few months ago, folks from NVDA add-ons community reached out to the original author of Clock add-on about add-on maintenance, and the author noted that he will not be able to maintain it. I, the last known maintainer of this add-on, have long ago abandoned maintenance of this add-on (back in December 2021) with no plans for NVDA 2022.1 compatibility then. The add-ons community was and still is looking for maintainers of this add-on. But for now:

I hereby announce that Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support. There are no plans for future releases, and compatibility with future NVDA releases cannot be guaranteed. Please use alternatives such as Windows 10 and 11 Alarms and Clock app or other apps and services offering time keeping/calendar/stopwatch/timer features. The add-on may become supported again if new maintainers step forward to maintain this add-on.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


addons for nvda 2022.1

 

Hi.

Easy table navigator is among the addons incompatible is this a discontinued thing?

also what is the status of doug's addons likee skype and teamtalk classic?

Extended winamp is also in that lot.

Also vlc while compatible is not automatically on the addon updater though it is appearing on the main addons site.


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz <zvonimirek222@...>
 

Hi,

I can take maintainership.

Which variables are changed that it needs compatibility rewrite?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Hi,

As for Clock add-on, the original author of this add-on is not maintaining it, and I have no plans for releasing future releases of this add-on (stating this as the last known maintainer). Please consider this add-on abandoned and end of support.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Hi,

As for Clock add-on, the original author of this add-on is not maintaining it, and I have no plans for releasing future releases of this add-on (stating this as the last known maintainer). Please consider this add-on abandoned and end of support.

Cheers,

Joseph

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