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Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Dave Grossoehme
 

What is the status of Cloud Vision?  That is what is flagging the 22.1 when I try to download and install.

Dave


On 5/23/2022 4:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:


actually emoticons has released an update.

For if interpretors I have modified the manafest, there are issues open on the github for this.

easy table navigator, extended winamp, a few others.

zoom enhancements does have addons on community.

vlc does to but addon updater aint catching it but its there.

99.9% of addons are compatible.



On 23/05/2022 5:11 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I have six incompatible add ons so I also am going to delay upgrading.  I see that none of them have released compatible add ons as of hyet.

Lions intelligent OCR
Enhanced Winamp
Clock
Day of the week
emoticons
enhanced phonetic reading

I hope they upgrade these soon.


On 5/22/2022 10:24 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well Just to let you all know I am using klat 6 and I love that voice.  I gave up on code factory because my trile would expire every the server went down and the voices would sound very crackly.  If you are looking for a good voice I would go with klatt 6.

On 5/22/2022 10:15 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi listers:

 

Well, I’ve seen the update to NVDA 2022.1, but, I’m going to hold off on updating for what I hope are just a few days while I wait for an updated add-in for the Vocalizer and Eloquence voice package from CodeFactory.

 

I haven’t seen anything that I’d call earth-shattering about this 2022.1 update, but, I am on Windows 11, so maybe there are good things under the hood.

 

Any thoughts?


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Addons for Nvda

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello group,


I have today downloaded and installed the version of Nvda 2022.1, and I need some addons.

I have in Nvda these addons, uncompatible: Clipspeak, Esperanto symbols, Vlc media player.

I would like to know, whether they will be available.

Sincerely:


--
Jarek


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Rui Fontes
 

Some newer laptops with 15.6 or 16 inch screen do not have numeric keypad...

Examples are MSI, Dell and some gaming lines from ASUS...


Rui Fontes


Às 20:20 de 23/05/2022, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

I’m going to see my bf  in September, he has a 15 inch laptop. I cant’ remember if it has a numpad or not, Mine does but I don’t like using it and wish it were just gone. Now I’m curious as I don’t recall his laptop having a number pad. But it’s been 3 years since I last saw him so I too could be wrong.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

I have never seen a 15 inch laptop that did not have a number pad.

Hey, I’ve been wrong before!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 23, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?

-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Rui Fontes
 

Firstly, it only happens when updating to a newer major version...

In the present case, from 2021.3.5 to 2022.1...


In spite of the necessary work to keep the maintained add-ons, and they are a few of them, the work supporting the NVDA portuguese speaking community to handle the problem, I think it is necessary...


And I suppose it will be difficult to get an automated test to see wich add-ons may be considered compatible without updating manifest.ini, since their code it was not affected by NVDA core code changes...


So, to allow NVDA to be updated and its code bettered, we have to support this small inconvenient once a year...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 20:15 de 23/05/2022, Tyler Wood escreveu:

As a random interjection I find it quite disturbing how easily add ons are losing compatibility from one minor version to the next. This is a trend I as a user am not a fan of. It means more work for developers, more issues by the end user if add ons become unsupported, or at least, unsupported according to NVDA itself, and less time to actually make improvements for the developers who are already placing their doubtlessly limited and free time into this wonderful hobby of creating resources for NVDA to take advantage of.

I am truly curious to know what I, as a user, am benefiting from with this so called fragmentation. Previously add ons would work without issue, now it’s a guessing game as to which add ons will be disabled and stop working when I’d like to update NVDA from, again, one minor version to the next.

 

As it stands right now, I’m running a portable version of the latest NVDA due to the above, with my main install remaining an older version. Am I alone in viewing this slightly worrying trend?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Lol we got the same answer..

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows

 

Från: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Skickat: den 23 maj 2022 12:18
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.

 


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m going to see my bf  in September, he has a 15 inch laptop. I cant’ remember if it has a numpad or not, Mine does but I don’t like using it and wish it were just gone. Now I’m curious as I don’t recall his laptop having a number pad. But it’s been 3 years since I last saw him so I too could be wrong.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

I have never seen a 15 inch laptop that did not have a number pad.

Hey, I’ve been wrong before!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 23, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?

-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Tyler Wood
 

As a random interjection I find it quite disturbing how easily add ons are losing compatibility from one minor version to the next. This is a trend I as a user am not a fan of. It means more work for developers, more issues by the end user if add ons become unsupported, or at least, unsupported according to NVDA itself, and less time to actually make improvements for the developers who are already placing their doubtlessly limited and free time into this wonderful hobby of creating resources for NVDA to take advantage of.

I am truly curious to know what I, as a user, am benefiting from with this so called fragmentation. Previously add ons would work without issue, now it’s a guessing game as to which add ons will be disabled and stop working when I’d like to update NVDA from, again, one minor version to the next.

 

As it stands right now, I’m running a portable version of the latest NVDA due to the above, with my main install remaining an older version. Am I alone in viewing this slightly worrying trend?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Lol we got the same answer..

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows

 

Från: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Skickat: den 23 maj 2022 12:18
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.

 


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Monte Single
 

I have never seen a 15 inch laptop that did not have a number pad.

Hey, I’ve been wrong before!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 23, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?

-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

William James
 

Modify the latest version of NVDA in manifest.ini. You will once again have working add-ons.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

On May 23, 2022, at 4:43 AM, Pele West <pele.westlists@...> wrote:

Hi everyone

Does anyone know if there are plans to update the IBM TTS, Braille Extender and Winamp addons to work with NVDA 2022.1?

Thanks

Pele West





Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:
I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?
-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Carlos Medrano
 

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days? I don't think I've ran into a 15" laptop that does not have a full sized keyboard in a while. Not sure about the 17" laptops though.



On 5/23/2022 12:56 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 01:39 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Does JAWS have this option?
-
I don't know whether JAWS allows the simultaneous use of either Insert (default JAWS key for desktop keyboard layout) and CAPS LOCK (laptop layout) at the same time, but it definitely uses CAPS LOCK as the modifier key for laptop keyboard layout.

I know of very few users, whether of JAWS or NVDA, that use laptop keyboard layout since most laptops that are 15" or larger have had full keyboards with number pads for quite a while now.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes, jfw has this option, has since 3.1 which was about 20 years ago if I recall, hence nvda has this option as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Does JAWS have this option? The only reason I ask is because JAWS was the first screen reader I used, and this was not the modifier.
Therefore, I've found it quite strange to use that key, even though NVDA has had it as an option ever since I've been using it. It's also why I wasn't a fan of the revamped Narrator when it came out, because that was its only modifier. That being said, it's really user preference as has been stated before.

On 5/23/22, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi

I always set Caps Lock as an NVDA modifier Because as a touch typist,
it is more convenient to have a modifier key on each side of the
keyboard to facilitate command entry. For the same reason, I always
get an external keyboard with 2 Windows keys.



I rarely type in all capitals so the double press of the Caps Lock to
engage capital input is not an issue as using the shift key is not difficult.



Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows



From: William
Sent: 23 May 2022 04:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set
Capslock as NVDA key



Hi all,



I would like to ask for your opinion.



Some new NVDA users, including desktop and laptop owners, will ask for

my opinion on whether they should set the Capslock as the NVDA key.



With regard to desktop and laptop environment, the logic that I have

provided them are as follows:



1. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have to press the key two
times

in order to input capital letters. But if you have to frequently press

the Capslock key to type capital letters, then setting Capslock key as

NVDA key will not be a good option.



2. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have one more option of NVDA

key, which you can choose from using the Capslock key or Insert key as

the NVDA key. But if you do not set Capslock as NVDA key, you will
most

probably have to limit to pressing Insert key (laptop) or Insert key
or

Numpad 0 (desktop).





How would you advice new NVDA users if they own a desktop or laptop

regarding this issue? thanks.






























Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 01:39 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Does JAWS have this option?
-
I don't know whether JAWS allows the simultaneous use of either Insert (default JAWS key for desktop keyboard layout) and CAPS LOCK (laptop layout) at the same time, but it definitely uses CAPS LOCK as the modifier key for laptop keyboard layout.

I know of very few users, whether of JAWS or NVDA, that use laptop keyboard layout since most laptops that are 15" or larger have had full keyboards with number pads for quite a while now.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Carlos Medrano
 

Hmm. I usually tell people to try it both ways. Keep in mind that I'm considering this from the perspective of having key echo turned off and being really aggravated to find out that I've been coding for the last 5 to 10 minutes in upper case. Most programming languages are case sensitive, and depending on the programming style used, it's rare for me to write anything in upper case.


Having Capslock used as a modifier by NVDA makes it much harder for me to accidentally enable it in this particular case.


Hope this is helpful.

On 5/23/2022 12:38 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Does JAWS have this option? The only reason I ask is because JAWS was
the first screen reader I used, and this was not the modifier.
Therefore, I've found it quite strange to use that key, even though
NVDA has had it as an option ever since I've been using it. It's also
why I wasn't a fan of the revamped Narrator when it came out, because
that was its only modifier. That being said, it's really user
preference as has been stated before.

On 5/23/22, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi

I always set Caps Lock as an NVDA modifier Because as a touch typist, it is
more convenient to have a modifier key on each side of the keyboard to
facilitate command entry.   For the same reason, I always get an external
keyboard with 2 Windows keys.



I rarely type in all capitals so the double press of the Caps Lock to engage
capital input is not an issue as using the shift key is not difficult.



Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows



From: William
Sent: 23 May 2022 04:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as
NVDA key



Hi all,



I would like to ask for your opinion.



Some new NVDA users, including desktop and laptop owners, will ask for

my opinion on whether they should set the Capslock as the NVDA key.



With regard to desktop and laptop environment, the logic that I have

provided them are as follows:



1. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have to press the key two times

in order to input capital letters. But if you have to frequently press

the Capslock key to type capital letters, then setting Capslock key as

NVDA key will not be a good option.



2. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have one more option of NVDA

key, which you can choose from using the Capslock key or Insert key as

the NVDA key. But if you do not set Capslock as NVDA key, you will most

probably have to limit to pressing Insert key (laptop) or Insert key or

Numpad 0 (desktop).





How would you advice new NVDA users if they own a desktop or laptop

regarding this issue? thanks.































Re: Voices in Italian, French, German, and Spanish Languages

Arno Schuh
 

Hi,

years ago Microsoft offered the RealSpeak Steffi (later Scansoft) as its German SAPI5 voice for free.
It still should be available on the Internet. Unfortunately Microsoft no longer shows the download.
http://ulrichhanke.de/Programme/RSSolo4GermanSteffi.exe

Yours sincerely

Arno


Re: Voices in Italian, French, German, and Spanish Languages

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 01:24 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
He finds the voices that come with Windows very robotic and would like human-sounding voices.
-
Then best of luck to him.  The OneCore voices are about as human sounding as I've ever dealt with, which is why I like them so well.  Many have complained that they do not do well at very high speech rates, but the speech rate I deal with is pretty much the average human speech rate.  It seems that the "robotic sounding" voices can be sped up to insane rates with better results, but I can't understand what they're saying at that rate, anyway.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: for the third time, filling out a PDF

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I've seen the progress indicator in question, but on smaller PDF files
like the one I linked to, I don't see that indicator, and it didn't
seem to change the way it was handled by NVDA.

On 5/23/22, Dave Grossoehme <dave@...> wrote:
Sorry I'm late on this information.  However, it would sound like
something is hanging up the response of NVDA and Adobe to tell the user
that the application is being loaded.  I have questioned this action
being a problem when using Windows 11, but is this a UAI Problem, or
something with NVDA or Adobe?

Dave


On 5/20/2022 6:59 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Well, when I open the form Bob gave the link for, I eventually end up
having it act just like any random web form would in terms of tabbing
through the form fields.  There are also a number of checkboxes to
indicate a given piece of equipment in the list has been returned and
these are on the second page of the form.

But note well, I said "eventually."  I can't make any sense of what's
going on, and am not getting any useful status either from Adobe or
from NVDA with regard to whether there is background processing going
on by the Accessibility Wizard to hand information to NVDA that it
would not otherwise have.  But whatever is happening it is NOT fast.
I can play around for at least 1 minute, possibly somewhat longer,
whether via point and click or using tab to move among the various
fields.  Then, after waiting for a while, suddenly tabbing between the
fields gives the field label, including the colon that's a part of
each label, when you land in the various fields.

Very strange.  No rational person would expect a lag like this between
opening a document and being able to use it with a screen reader sans
any sort of warning that they needed to wait for something to finish
before they start.

I am using Windows 10, Version 21H2, Build 19044.1076
Adobe Reader DC 2022.001.20117
NVDA 2021.3.5
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them
by ignoring them.
/*     ~ Ursula LeGuin, /The Dispossessed/






Re: Voices in Italian, French, German, and Spanish Languages

Rui Fontes
 

Vocalizer or Vocalizer Expressive.

Both versions have those voices.


You can buy online using Paypal.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 18:24 de 23/05/2022, Nevzat Adil escreveu:

Brian, thanks for responding.
I believe he uses Windows 10.
He finds the voices that come with Windows very robotic and would like
human-sounding voices.
I would appreciate if you or anyone else would provide me the info to
get such voices in the languages mentioned in my original message .


On 5/22/22, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Added direct link to support page documenting currently available
OneCore TTS voices for Windows 10 and 11]

What version of Windows is he using?  If it's Windows 10 or 11, I know there
are OneCore Voices available in all of those languages.  Microsoft has a
support page listing all of the TTS Languages available for Windows 10 and
Windows 11 (and each version of Windows has a separate tab on that page):
Appendix A: Supported languages and voices (
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-a-supported-languages-and-voices-4486e345-7730-53da-fcfe-55cc64300f01
)

Settings,Time & Language, Speech Pane, Add Voices button.

I'm sure these exist for other synths as well, but I have no idea what the
acquisition method is.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by
ignoring them.
* ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed






Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Does JAWS have this option? The only reason I ask is because JAWS was
the first screen reader I used, and this was not the modifier.
Therefore, I've found it quite strange to use that key, even though
NVDA has had it as an option ever since I've been using it. It's also
why I wasn't a fan of the revamped Narrator when it came out, because
that was its only modifier. That being said, it's really user
preference as has been stated before.

On 5/23/22, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi

I always set Caps Lock as an NVDA modifier Because as a touch typist, it is
more convenient to have a modifier key on each side of the keyboard to
facilitate command entry.   For the same reason, I always get an external
keyboard with 2 Windows keys.



I rarely type in all capitals so the double press of the Caps Lock to engage
capital input is not an issue as using the shift key is not difficult.



Cheers

                Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows



From: William
Sent: 23 May 2022 04:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as
NVDA key



Hi all,



I would like to ask for your opinion.



Some new NVDA users, including desktop and laptop owners, will ask for

my opinion on whether they should set the Capslock as the NVDA key.



With regard to desktop and laptop environment, the logic that I have

provided them are as follows:



1. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have to press the key two times

in order to input capital letters. But if you have to frequently press

the Capslock key to type capital letters, then setting Capslock key as

NVDA key will not be a good option.



2. setting Capslock key as NVDA key, you have one more option of NVDA

key, which you can choose from using the Capslock key or Insert key as

the NVDA key. But if you do not set Capslock as NVDA key, you will most

probably have to limit to pressing Insert key (laptop) or Insert key or

Numpad 0 (desktop).





How would you advice new NVDA users if they own a desktop or laptop

regarding this issue? thanks.






























Re: IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

Rui Fontes
 

Is not the best way, but change the manifest.ini to accept last version 2022.1 and it will work...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:13 de 23/05/2022, farhan israk escreveu:

I used to use  clock addon so that nvda automatically announces the current time after each 15 minutes. What alternative addon or app can I use for the same purpose?


Re: Voices in Italian, French, German, and Spanish Languages

 

Brian, thanks for responding.
I believe he uses Windows 10.
He finds the voices that come with Windows very robotic and would like
human-sounding voices.
I would appreciate if you or anyone else would provide me the info to
get such voices in the languages mentioned in my original message .

On 5/22/22, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Added direct link to support page documenting currently available
OneCore TTS voices for Windows 10 and 11]

What version of Windows is he using?  If it's Windows 10 or 11, I know there
are OneCore Voices available in all of those languages.  Microsoft has a
support page listing all of the TTS Languages available for Windows 10 and
Windows 11 (and each version of Windows has a separate tab on that page):
Appendix A: Supported languages and voices (
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-a-supported-languages-and-voices-4486e345-7730-53da-fcfe-55cc64300f01
)

Settings,Time & Language, Speech Pane, Add Voices button.

I'm sure these exist for other synths as well, but I have no idea what the
acquisition method is.
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