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Editing an NVDA Add-On Manifest file as a Temporary Workaround #adminnotice

 

Editing an NVDA Add-On Manifest file as a Temporary Workaround

Moderator's Note:
  This post is about exactly what it says, a temporary workaround.  This is NOT the way to truly fix add-on compatibility issues in many cases, but it will work as a temporary workaround for some in a pinch. You use these instructions completely at your own risk.

Note Well:  This will NOT always work when there is a backward compatibility breaking release of NVDA because, sometimes, add-on code must be changed.  But it sometimes works if nothing more than testing and certification is needed for a given add-on, and that’s a bit behind the actual NVDA release.  Also, the %APPDATA% folder is normally hidden, so if your machine objects to your trying to navigate there, you will have to take the steps to show hidden files and folders on your machine.

Your NVDA Add-Ons are found in the following folder:

%APPDATA%\nvda\addons

and you can type (or cut and paste) the exact path shown above into the Address combo box in File Explorer, and after hitting Enter that’s where you’ll be.  A list of folders corresponding to each of the add-ons you have installed will be in the file list.  Locate the add-on for which you wish to edit the manifest file and open its folder.

In the folder you will find a file with the name manifest.ini.  It is a plain text file, so can be opened for editing with any plain text editor of your choosing.  I use Notepad, but any text editor will do.

Once you have the file open for editing, search for the line that starts with:  lastTestedNVDAVersion =

You will be substituting the current NVDA version number for whatever is currently shown after the equal sign.  It is critical that there be a space after the ‘n’ in “version” as well as after the equal sign itself.  The NVDA version goes after that space after the equal sign.  If you check out the line character by character after the ‘n’ in “version” as you found it, you’ll encounter those spaces.  Just make sure that the equal sign has a space before it, and after it.

This will trick NVDA into believing that the add-on has been tested up to and including the current NVDA version number.

If an add-on crashes or otherwise misbehaves after using this workaround, then work on its code will be required.

If you use this workaround, and become aware that a version of your add-on that has actually been tested with the latest version of NVDA has become available, definitely take the time to install the real version.  Your doctored manifest.ini file will end up being overwritten as part of installing “the real thing.”

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Re: IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I found it but it is not accessible.

On 5/23/2022 8:00 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

When Joseph refers to other apps such as Windows 10/11 Alarms and Clock app, is this an NVDA app or is it something built into Windows itself?

On 5/23/2022 4:33 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

I see that Clock and Calendar add-on is not showing as compatible with just released NVDA 2022.1. There is a story to that:

A few months ago, folks from NVDA add-ons community reached out to the original author of Clock add-on about add-on maintenance, and the author noted that he will not be able to maintain it. I, the last known maintainer of this add-on, have long ago abandoned maintenance of this add-on (back in December 2021) with no plans for NVDA 2022.1 compatibility then. The add-ons community was and still is looking for maintainers of this add-on. But for now:

I hereby announce that Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support. There are no plans for future releases, and compatibility with future NVDA releases cannot be guaranteed. Please use alternatives such as Windows 10 and 11 Alarms and Clock app or other apps and services offering time keeping/calendar/stopwatch/timer features. The add-on may become supported again if new maintainers step forward to maintain this add-on.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi,

Update as of May 23, 2022 (the day NVDA 2022.1 stable version was released): over 60 percent of add-ons registered on community add-ons website are showing as compatible with more updates on the way (at least four add-on updates were queued for distribution on community add-ons website as of this moment, and if things go well, Add-on Updater will offer them to you around this time tomorrow). My task for the next few days before I officially go offline in June: asking Add-on Updater to offer add-on updates to users. There may or may not be such a task in June (highly unlikely for my own physical and mental well-being, so if you are an add-on author and reading this message, consider May 27, 2022 as the last day to queue add-on updates for broad distribution for this round).

I will address the question of manifests in a separate post - I'm sort of on a writing spree before I crash again, and I will show you why editing manifests is not a long-term solution (hint: Python advances).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: incompatible addons

Kyle McRorey
 

Ring

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 11:29 AM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,
The following addons are incompatible with nvda 2022.1. They are enhanced phonetic reader, speech history, spell check, unigram and vlc media player. Addon updater did not update them. Where can I find compatible versions of these addons?

I completely agree with that idea about ad on alligators checking the latest version for updates and for any problems that may physically impact the usage of the add-on with NVDA


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Wander if there needs to be an addon checker that will check an addon based on the latest and say what is a problem.

If its critical, or needed or will physically impact a user then bam you need to action it.

But if its not going to or its a well could be better or performance thing, modify the manafest and then you can fix it later.

For example I just modified ifinterpretors manafest and yeah it does work to a point, could be better but it does work.

Of course I don't play that much interactive fiction so I have not updated my runners for at least a year now as most of my games for that type are on the web or in twine or twine java.



On 24/05/2022 7:23 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

Firstly, it only happens when updating to a newer major version...

In the present case, from 2021.3.5 to 2022.1...


In spite of the necessary work to keep the maintained add-ons, and they are a few of them, the work supporting the NVDA portuguese speaking community to handle the problem, I think it is necessary...


And I suppose it will be difficult to get an automated test to see wich add-ons may be considered compatible without updating manifest.ini, since their code it was not affected by NVDA core code changes...


So, to allow NVDA to be updated and its code bettered, we have to support this small inconvenient once a year...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 20:15 de 23/05/2022, Tyler Wood escreveu:

As a random interjection I find it quite disturbing how easily add ons are losing compatibility from one minor version to the next. This is a trend I as a user am not a fan of. It means more work for developers, more issues by the end user if add ons become unsupported, or at least, unsupported according to NVDA itself, and less time to actually make improvements for the developers who are already placing their doubtlessly limited and free time into this wonderful hobby of creating resources for NVDA to take advantage of.

I am truly curious to know what I, as a user, am benefiting from with this so called fragmentation. Previously add ons would work without issue, now it’s a guessing game as to which add ons will be disabled and stop working when I’d like to update NVDA from, again, one minor version to the next.

 

As it stands right now, I’m running a portable version of the latest NVDA due to the above, with my main install remaining an older version. Am I alone in viewing this slightly worrying trend?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Lol we got the same answer..

 

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Från: Supanut Leepaisomboon
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Ämne: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.

 


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

No you are not.

I mean I know why things change but this does not effect any other reader.

By modifying the mana fest unless something has radically changed most of the time things then just work.

Maybe its time to look at scripts that don't have to change every version or so.

Don't know but really if you think you are alone on this yeah I am little concerned to.

And then when a dev goes out of business with an addon its lost.


On 24/05/2022 7:15 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

As a random interjection I find it quite disturbing how easily add ons are losing compatibility from one minor version to the next. This is a trend I as a user am not a fan of. It means more work for developers, more issues by the end user if add ons become unsupported, or at least, unsupported according to NVDA itself, and less time to actually make improvements for the developers who are already placing their doubtlessly limited and free time into this wonderful hobby of creating resources for NVDA to take advantage of.

I am truly curious to know what I, as a user, am benefiting from with this so called fragmentation. Previously add ons would work without issue, now it’s a guessing game as to which add ons will be disabled and stop working when I’d like to update NVDA from, again, one minor version to the next.

 

As it stands right now, I’m running a portable version of the latest NVDA due to the above, with my main install remaining an older version. Am I alone in viewing this slightly worrying trend?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Lol we got the same answer..

 

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Från: Supanut Leepaisomboon
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Ämne: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.

 


Re: IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

Rui Fontes
 

Just open the file manifest.ini in NotePad and change the line starting with lastTestedNVDAVersion

to be like this:

lastTestedNVDAVersion = 2022.1


Rui Fontes


Às 20:55 de 23/05/2022, farhan israk escreveu:

Thank you. How can I do it?


On Mon, 23 May 2022, 11:37 pm Rui Fontes, <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Is not the best way, but change the manifest.ini to accept last version 2022.1 and it will work...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:13 de 23/05/2022, farhan israk escreveu:
I used to use  clock addon so that nvda automatically announces the current time after each 15 minutes. What alternative addon or app can I use for the same purpose?


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Curtis Delzer
 

doesn't work all the time, but sometimes . . .

On 5/23/2022 11:13 AM, William James wrote:
Modify the latest version of NVDA in manifest.ini. You will once again have working add-ons.

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On May 23, 2022, at 4:43 AM, Pele West <pele.westlists@...> wrote:

Hi everyone

Does anyone know if there are plans to update the IBM TTS, Braille Extender and Winamp addons to work with NVDA 2022.1?

Thanks

Pele West






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Re: incompatible addons

farhan israk
 

Thank you. I don't know version number but it is latest. I got addon updater update last evening. However, i have not received any update of vlc media player addon.


On Mon, 23 May 2022, 10:38 pm Governor staten, <govsta@...> wrote:

vlc media player can be found on the add-ons website. What version of the add-on update are you running? The latest version of that is 22.06.





On 5/23/2022 12:28 PM, farhan israk wrote:
Hello everyone,
The following addons are incompatible with nvda 2022.1. They are enhanced phonetic reader, speech history, spell check, unigram and vlc media player. Addon updater did not update them. Where can I find compatible versions of these addons?


Re: IMPORTANT: Clock and Calendar add-on is abandoned and end of support, no plans for future releases, use alternatives

farhan israk
 

Thank you. How can I do it?


On Mon, 23 May 2022, 11:37 pm Rui Fontes, <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Is not the best way, but change the manifest.ini to accept last version 2022.1 and it will work...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:13 de 23/05/2022, farhan israk escreveu:
I used to use  clock addon so that nvda automatically announces the current time after each 15 minutes. What alternative addon or app can I use for the same purpose?


Re: Addons for Nvda

 

Ladies and Gentlemen,

By now, we should all "know this is coming" when NVDA has a backward compatibility breaking release.  And, so far the convention for these seems to be the dot one release for a given major release number (the year of release).

From Joseph Lee, in regard to checking the current Add-On compatibility with current NVDA Release status:  As always, keep track of compatibility status of your favorite add-ons from the following link: Add-ons and backwards incompatible NVDA releases (nvda-project.org)

 

Download Sources for Most Add-Ons (some home-grown ones will appear in neither location):

NVDA Add-Ons Directory (hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA Community Association)

NVDA Community Add-Ons Site

There will be occasions where, if no one is maintaining a given add-on, it may never become compatible with the latest NVDA release.  Add-On developers are those who maintain add-on code, not NVAccess, so if someone walks away from maintaining an add-on, and that role is not picked up by someone else, the add-on dies.

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Re: Addons for Nvda

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


ClipSpeak is already updated on the add-ons page.. and in the spanish page of add-ons.

Esperanto symbols I don't know...


For VLC the spanish repository already have one add-on 2022.1 compatible, made by Paul Ber, and it is abailable at:

https://nvda.es/files/get.php?file=vlcaccessenhancement


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Rui Fontes


Às 20:39 de 23/05/2022, Jarek.Krcmar escreveu:

Hello group,


I have today downloaded and installed the version of Nvda 2022.1, and I need some addons.

I have in Nvda these addons, uncompatible: Clipspeak, Esperanto symbols, Vlc media player.

I would like to know, whether they will be available.

Sincerely:


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Dave Grossoehme
 

What is the status of Cloud Vision?  That is what is flagging the 22.1 when I try to download and install.

Dave


On 5/23/2022 4:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:


actually emoticons has released an update.

For if interpretors I have modified the manafest, there are issues open on the github for this.

easy table navigator, extended winamp, a few others.

zoom enhancements does have addons on community.

vlc does to but addon updater aint catching it but its there.

99.9% of addons are compatible.



On 23/05/2022 5:11 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I have six incompatible add ons so I also am going to delay upgrading.  I see that none of them have released compatible add ons as of hyet.

Lions intelligent OCR
Enhanced Winamp
Clock
Day of the week
emoticons
enhanced phonetic reading

I hope they upgrade these soon.


On 5/22/2022 10:24 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well Just to let you all know I am using klat 6 and I love that voice.  I gave up on code factory because my trile would expire every the server went down and the voices would sound very crackly.  If you are looking for a good voice I would go with klatt 6.

On 5/22/2022 10:15 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi listers:

 

Well, I’ve seen the update to NVDA 2022.1, but, I’m going to hold off on updating for what I hope are just a few days while I wait for an updated add-in for the Vocalizer and Eloquence voice package from CodeFactory.

 

I haven’t seen anything that I’d call earth-shattering about this 2022.1 update, but, I am on Windows 11, so maybe there are good things under the hood.

 

Any thoughts?


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Addons for Nvda

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello group,


I have today downloaded and installed the version of Nvda 2022.1, and I need some addons.

I have in Nvda these addons, uncompatible: Clipspeak, Esperanto symbols, Vlc media player.

I would like to know, whether they will be available.

Sincerely:


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Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Rui Fontes
 

Some newer laptops with 15.6 or 16 inch screen do not have numeric keypad...

Examples are MSI, Dell and some gaming lines from ASUS...


Rui Fontes


Às 20:20 de 23/05/2022, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

I’m going to see my bf  in September, he has a 15 inch laptop. I cant’ remember if it has a numpad or not, Mine does but I don’t like using it and wish it were just gone. Now I’m curious as I don’t recall his laptop having a number pad. But it’s been 3 years since I last saw him so I too could be wrong.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

I have never seen a 15 inch laptop that did not have a number pad.

Hey, I’ve been wrong before!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 23, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?

-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Rui Fontes
 

Firstly, it only happens when updating to a newer major version...

In the present case, from 2021.3.5 to 2022.1...


In spite of the necessary work to keep the maintained add-ons, and they are a few of them, the work supporting the NVDA portuguese speaking community to handle the problem, I think it is necessary...


And I suppose it will be difficult to get an automated test to see wich add-ons may be considered compatible without updating manifest.ini, since their code it was not affected by NVDA core code changes...


So, to allow NVDA to be updated and its code bettered, we have to support this small inconvenient once a year...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 20:15 de 23/05/2022, Tyler Wood escreveu:

As a random interjection I find it quite disturbing how easily add ons are losing compatibility from one minor version to the next. This is a trend I as a user am not a fan of. It means more work for developers, more issues by the end user if add ons become unsupported, or at least, unsupported according to NVDA itself, and less time to actually make improvements for the developers who are already placing their doubtlessly limited and free time into this wonderful hobby of creating resources for NVDA to take advantage of.

I am truly curious to know what I, as a user, am benefiting from with this so called fragmentation. Previously add ons would work without issue, now it’s a guessing game as to which add ons will be disabled and stop working when I’d like to update NVDA from, again, one minor version to the next.

 

As it stands right now, I’m running a portable version of the latest NVDA due to the above, with my main install remaining an older version. Am I alone in viewing this slightly worrying trend?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Lol we got the same answer..

 

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Från: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Skickat: den 23 maj 2022 12:18
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.

 


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m going to see my bf  in September, he has a 15 inch laptop. I cant’ remember if it has a numpad or not, Mine does but I don’t like using it and wish it were just gone. Now I’m curious as I don’t recall his laptop having a number pad. But it’s been 3 years since I last saw him so I too could be wrong.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

I have never seen a 15 inch laptop that did not have a number pad.

Hey, I’ve been wrong before!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 23, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?

-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

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You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
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Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Tyler Wood
 

As a random interjection I find it quite disturbing how easily add ons are losing compatibility from one minor version to the next. This is a trend I as a user am not a fan of. It means more work for developers, more issues by the end user if add ons become unsupported, or at least, unsupported according to NVDA itself, and less time to actually make improvements for the developers who are already placing their doubtlessly limited and free time into this wonderful hobby of creating resources for NVDA to take advantage of.

I am truly curious to know what I, as a user, am benefiting from with this so called fragmentation. Previously add ons would work without issue, now it’s a guessing game as to which add ons will be disabled and stop working when I’d like to update NVDA from, again, one minor version to the next.

 

As it stands right now, I’m running a portable version of the latest NVDA due to the above, with my main install remaining an older version. Am I alone in viewing this slightly worrying trend?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

Lol we got the same answer..

 

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Från: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Skickat: den 23 maj 2022 12:18
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Ämne: Re: [nvda] holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

 

So I just got a reply from Codefactory, to a ticket regarding compatibility with NVDA 2022.1 that I submitted way back in April. Below is their response:
Good morning,
We are aware that a breaking NVDA update was released today.
We've been working on the addon, but unfortunately our update will take a few more days to complete.
Thank you for your patience.
The Code Factory technical team.

 


Re: Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

Monte Single
 

I have never seen a 15 inch laptop that did not have a number pad.

Hey, I’ve been wrong before!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 23, 2022 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Whether or not recommending new NVDA user to set Capslock as NVDA key

 

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 02:07 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:

I thought it was the opposite; most laptops are getting rid of the number pad these days?

-
I haven't seen them disappearing except in the netbook space, which is not really a laptop, but an emailing and web browsing machine.  Once you get below 15-inch screens, though, many don't have number pads because there's just no way to fit them in the space available without making the main keyboard "too small for average human hands."

Whether a screen reader is involved or not, any business related use of a laptop is going to rely heavily on having a full-sized keyboard with a number pad included.

I've never encountered a 17-inch machine that doesn't have a number pad.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

William James
 

Modify the latest version of NVDA in manifest.ini. You will once again have working add-ons.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

On May 23, 2022, at 4:43 AM, Pele West <pele.westlists@...> wrote:

Hi everyone

Does anyone know if there are plans to update the IBM TTS, Braille Extender and Winamp addons to work with NVDA 2022.1?

Thanks

Pele West




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