Re: writing in forums on the web
Gene, Thanks for the NVDA+CTRL+Spacebar command. I don't think I've ever been stuck in an online form field prior to today's experiments, which surprises me given how many online forms (whether on a forum website or otherwise) I've slogged through with clients. It seems that the CTRL addition is a sort of "force" or "on steroids" return to full browse mode. There's nothing like a skilled and regular user to know these kinds of seldom used, but invaluable when you find yourself in the situations they're meant for, commands. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...>
Oh, ok. Thanks.
On 10/12/2016 12:55 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...>
Oh, ok.
On 10/12/2016 12:55 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Gene
Use the command control insert space to
return to browse mode and have full movement on the page.
I'm not sure I recall definitely what the technical explanation of
this command is but I think it is supposed to get you out of a control if you
are stuck in it in forms mode. If you are stuck and cannot return to
browse mode, it should be one of the first things you try. You can use
either insert.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] writing in forums on the web Rayette, I have not figured out that little conundrum. Nothing I've tried in NVDA has worked, at least not reliably. At one point I thought I had it figured out by going from focus mode to browse mode and using comma to move me out of the edit box itself and to the resize control on the Rich Text Editing box, but I can't get beyond that on the http://www.fortrefuge.com/ forum page. By contrast, on the groups.io site I can go from focus to browse mode, hit comma which takes me to the "edit box stretcher" on this forums website, then a single strike of B shoots me to the "Reply to Group" button. This website is behaving somewhat unpredictably in its interaction with NVDA as far as the Rich Text Formatting edit box. Sometimes if I try comma after going into browse mode it takes me to the resizing control, other times it tells me "not in a container" even though I've just been entering text in that editor before shifting to browse mode and hitting comma. Someone more skilled
in NVDA than I might want to go to http://www.fortrefuge.com/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=94 ,which
is their Post New Thread page to see if they can figure out how to escape that
editing box/widget once it's been entered. You do not have to complete a
post, as I certainly have not and you also do not need to deal with the
ReCaptcha to gain entrance to that editing space. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...>
I'm willing to use it. I have a trackpad on my laptop... On 10/12/2016 12:38 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette, Do you use the mouse at all or are you willing to do so? The Mouse Tracking feature of NVDA is one of my favorite things, particularly in thorny situations such as this one. You could move your mouse until you hear that you're over the "Submit New Thread" or "Preview Post" buttons (if that's what you want to do) or even that the mouse isn't announcing that it's over any webpage object at all [which is probably best]. Clicking on "blank space" on the webpage shifts focus out of that rich text editing box then you can begin using the standard NVDA browsing commands you're accustomed to in order to navigate to the actual link/button/combo box or other thing you wish to have focus on. It's a work-around, but one that works. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette, I have not figured out that little conundrum. Nothing I've tried in NVDA has worked, at least not reliably. At one point I thought I had it figured out by going from focus mode to browse mode and using comma to move me out of the edit box itself and to the resize control on the Rich Text Editing box, but I can't get beyond that on the http://www.fortrefuge.com/ forum page. By contrast, on the groups.io site I can go from focus to browse mode, hit comma which takes me to the "edit box stretcher" on this forums website, then a single strike of B shoots me to the "Reply to Group" button. This website is behaving somewhat unpredictably in its interaction with NVDA as far as the Rich Text Formatting edit box. Sometimes if I try comma after going into browse mode it takes me to the resizing control, other times it tells me "not in a container" even though I've just been entering text in that editor before shifting to browse mode and hitting comma. Someone more skilled in NVDA than I might want to go to http://www.fortrefuge.com/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=94 ,which is their Post New Thread page to see if they can figure out how to escape that editing box/widget once it's been entered. You do not have to complete a post, as I certainly have not and you also do not need to deal with the ReCaptcha to gain entrance to that editing space. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...>
I'm really good at writing on forums. I do have a question
though? How do i get out of the text editor with NVDA. Tabbing
does nothing once i'm in that box. On 10/12/2016 11:28 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette, That's difficult for me to say, not knowing you nor how web saavy you may or may not be on a global level. Since you're new here (unless you're a lurker, in which case you may already know this) I am fully sighted but work extensively with blind or visually impaired individuals on how to use a computer either completely without vision or with the residual vision (or original limited vision) that they have. If you have someone who could be your sighted assistant, who you know and trust given the nature of the forum you've given the link to, and are good about navigating the web in general I feel rather certain you could get yourself up and running as a skilled forum participant on that site with practice in the mechanics of reading and posting for the specific forums management software that they're using. If you are not a skilled web browser user already then it becomes far more complicated because you do need that base skill first. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...>
Oh, ok. Thanks. so do you think this forum would be easy to post
in? On 10/12/2016 11:16 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Based on Rayette's offering a link I think it's safe to say that participating in a web forum is what's being asked about. Having visited the website there are actually two forums hosted there, a public one and a private one due to the sensitive nature of the potential conversations themselves. The public forum allows you to post as an unregistered guest. Once you activate the "Post New Topic" button you are presented with a web form (where you could log in if you have an account) but that by default shows you as user "Unregistered," offers a ReCaptcha (the audio version of which is a number sequence that's very easy to understand and spoken very slowly) to prove you're actually human, and the following fields and controls for your post:
I would have to presume that the private forum setup would be largely the same but that since login is required no ReCaptcha would be used. The preceding only covers posting, not reading, which is its own kettle of fish. As Antony already noted, it's impossible to give truly generic instructions with regard to web forums, though there are several major formats that do get used repeatedly on different forums websites. If you intend to get heavily involved on a specific web forum it really is helpful to have a sighted assistant during the first couple of tries just so they can walk you through the controls that they see (some of which you may or may not need). Once you've got a given forum "system" down it's reasonably easy to use other forums that are using the same forums management software. It's also somewhat easier to plow your way through an unfamiliar forums software used elsewhere because you now have experience, and there are some strong similarities, though you may need or want sighted assistance to work through the differences. Most online forum pages present lists of topics in the form of links, so using your screen reader to get a list of links is often a shortcut for getting a quick feel for what's currently being discussed. Some, depending on how they've structured the page, might also be categorized as headings, so using that element type can also sometimes be helpful. In the case of the particular forum Rayette shared the link to they structure their forums page such that threads are beautifully displayed as a list of headings, where the thread title is the heading. In NVDA the level 0 heading is the forum title itself and all the level 1 headings are the threads.
Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Kevin Huber
Hi Rayet:
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Thanks for the clarification. Kevin Huber
On 10/12/16, Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...> wrote:
Participating in forums. I mean writing posts in forums.
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...>
Participating in forums. I mean writing posts in forums.
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On 10/12/2016 10:23 AM, Kevin Huber wrote:
Hi Rayet: --
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Re: is there another users nvda mailing lists to join up?
Alexander Masic
But that list is cancel. and moved to here.
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Den 2016-10-12 kl. 16:53, skrev Roger Stewart:
Here is an address to subscribe to another nvda list. I don't know if it is still active as I've not seen any activity on it for quite a while now.
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Re: writing in forums on the web
Kevin Huber
Hi Rayet:
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Are you talking about participating in forums or are you talking about filling out forms? Kevin Huber
On 10/10/16, Rayette Rucker <rayette.rucker23@...> wrote:
So, how do I fill out forums on the web with the web applications thing
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Re: is there another users nvda mailing lists to join up?
Roger Stewart
Here is an address to subscribe to another nvda list. I don't know if it is still active as I've not seen any activity on it for quite a while now.
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nvdainfo-subscribe@... Use this to subscribe. Good luck. Roger
On 10/12/2016 8:51 AM, Leo Bado wrote:
hi,
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YNT: [nvda] File Attached: Weather.zipcodes My Customized List
Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
Thanks your work but, Weather plus ad-on doesn't need to zipcode list. You can search Your citi from the edit box in the ad-on. Write Your citi and pres the test button.
-----Özgün İleti----- Kimden: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Yerine Ron Canazzi Tarih: 12 Ekim 2016 Çarşamba 16:26 Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io Konu: Re: [nvda] File Attached: Weather.zipcodes My Customized List I forgot: this list does not take attachments. I'll use send space. On 10/12/2016 9:22 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote: Hi Group,-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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is there another users nvda mailing lists to join up?
Leo Bado <leobado1970@...>
hi,
as subject line says, I want to know if there's another good mailing list for nvda, users general list or specific ones always nvda related, if anyone can give me further info will be appreciated. -- “If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.” ― Henry David Thoreau
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Re: weather plus question
Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Hi All,
I just want to let you know I got my problem fixed. I started from
the beginning and I got my city entered. Thank you all for the help.
From: Gary
Metzler
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] weather plus question Hi All,
I just
started using nvda and downloaded the weather plus app. Does anyone know
where I can get the file of zip codes? Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary
kn4ox
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Weather.zipcodes: My own Customization
Ron Canazzi
LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN!
Hi Group, By popular demand, here are my customized listings of 133 cities from my own version of the Weather Add On for NVDA. Keep in mind, my perspective is United States based. I have many US cities and some of the more important world capitals. https://www.sendspace.com/file/g9lrj0 -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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