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Re: Speech History Add-On

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I missed this one too when it lost compatibility after 2021.1.  I just downloaded and installed it.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Sarah k Alawami
 

Cool. Have a good vacation. I’m going on one myself which will be good, I need the brake. When I come back I’m sure I’ll have a lot of exciting things to look forward to.

 

Happy Saturday.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 3:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Hi,

Two things:

  1. Add-on Updater will update disabled add-ons (do not confuse this with incompatible add-ons). An add-on update will be shown if: there is an actual update (version differences) and the add-on is seen as compatible with the NVDA version you have.
  2. As for add-ons mentioned in recent thread such as Speech History (see a different thread on that add-on), all I can say is that a birdy told me that significant events are on the horizon (shhh, not here).

Cheers,

Joseph (my official vacation starts on May 31, 2022)


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Jason Bratcher
 

You must update each one - one at a time.
Jason Bratcher


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Hi,

Two things:

  1. Add-on Updater will update disabled add-ons (do not confuse this with incompatible add-ons). An add-on update will be shown if: there is an actual update (version differences) and the add-on is seen as compatible with the NVDA version you have.
  2. As for add-ons mentioned in recent thread such as Speech History (see a different thread on that add-on), all I can say is that a birdy told me that significant events are on the horizon (shhh, not here).

Cheers,

Joseph (my official vacation starts on May 31, 2022)


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Sarah k Alawami
 

I do, and love that thing. I hope though it will update disabled add ons. I know that was not meant at me but take care anyway.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Do you have the add-on updater? That will help you

 

 


 

On 5/28/2022 1:56 PM, Danny Park wrote:

Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny






Re: Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep I saw the msg and downloaded the update.  I have not installed it as I was busy taking care of some other stuffage.  I did join the add ons group though so I can get word of anything new to play with and or brake.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech History Add-On

 

Try this. This was copied from a message he sent yesterday.

 

This release adds compatibility with NVDA 2022.1.  There are no additional changes.

https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history/releases/download/v2022.1/speechHistory.nvda-addon

 

 

 


 

On 5/28/2022 2:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Do you have the add-on updater? That will help you





On 5/28/2022 1:56 PM, Danny Park wrote:
Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny







Re: Speech History Add-On

 

Try this. This was copied from a message he sent yesterday.


This release adds compatibility with NVDA 2022.1.  There are no additional changes.

https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history/releases/download/v2022.1/speechHistory.nvda-addon






On 5/28/2022 2:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.


Re: Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ah I’ll take a look I didn’t actually see the file name, but I did see the last updated date which was last year. That should have thrown a red flag for me. For what ever reason, maybe not enough coffee yet, it didn’t. lol!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speach history add on

 

What's available at this very moment for the Speech History add-on is not compatible with NVDA 2022.1.  Even the add-on file includes 2021.1 in its name, which is a big hint.

I believe that Mr. Scholes may have been just the tiniest bit "late to the party" in issuing his official update.  See the GitHub Page for Speech History, where, as of the moment I'm typing this, there are entries for making it compatible with NVDA 2022.1 logged 21 hours ago.  An update is clearly in the pipeline.  I can't say precisely when it will exit said pipeline.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ok, yep I knew mine was disabled so I went to the page thinking that maybe I had  missed an update or 10, nope, I didn’t even miss an update or 10. I don’t see any contact information on the add on page, unless I missed it, so can who ever it is, if they are on here please look into this, or if not, can someone ping the author? I’ll also  look at that nvda add ons site, the store thing to see if maybe a beta is up there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speach history add on

 

I tried installing it in the current NVDA version and it was blocked because it isn't compatible.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 1:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.

 


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Steve Wettlaufer
 

If you install the Add-on Updater add-on it will check for any available updates for you and then you can choose to install them when you're ready.  This only works for add-ons that are on the official NVDA page, so if you're using the Codefactory voices, for instance, it won't catch that.

Steve

On 2022-05-28 1:56 p.m., Danny Park wrote:
Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny





Re: Speech History Add-On

 

And, based on this post by the author in the NVDA Add-Ons group, https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/message/18933, it would appear that the only update that was required was to the manifest, in this case, and that a pull request is pending so that Add-On Updater will recognize the latest version.

A direct link to the latest version is also in that post for those who want to manually update.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

If the add-ons are part of the community add-ons, and you have the Add-On Updater add-on installed, when compatible versions become available you will be notified and you go through the standard process to update.

If they are third-party add-ons, then you have to take care of it yourself.  This means, of course, for each third-party add-on individually.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Speech History Add-On

 

What's available at this very moment for the Speech History add-on is not compatible with NVDA 2022.1.  Even the add-on file includes 2021.1 in its name, which is a big hint.

I believe that Mr. Scholes may have been just the tiniest bit "late to the party" in issuing his official update.  See the GitHub Page for Speech History, where, as of the moment I'm typing this, there are entries for making it compatible with NVDA 2022.1 logged 21 hours ago.  An update is clearly in the pipeline.  I can't say precisely when it will exit said pipeline.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Speech History Add-On

Gene
 

I tried installing it in the current NVDA version and it was blocked because it isn't compatible.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 1:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.



Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.


NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Danny Park
 

Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny


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Re: NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome When In Focus Mode

Sarah k Alawami
 

However in focus mode if you curser through the field you should be able to read in it.  I’ll have to check the next time I publish a youtube video, as that has a read only link. I was going to show a page to a we transfer file  I had already uploaded to see if we could get it to brake but sadly I cannot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome When In Focus Mode

 

I'm not sure what you are working with.  It appears to be some sort of source code.  When I go to the page, I hear something like welcome to and then the name of an editor.

However, it appears to me that NVDA is working as expected.  A read only edit field is read only, you can't write in it.  Focus mode doesn't let you move in a web page unless you are in a field that allows movement, such as an edit field that allows you to write when in focus mode.  When in structures like combo boxes, you can move as well or in a list of radio buttons.  But the structure on the actual web page must allow you to move and I would think that by definition, a read only edit field wouldn't.  There is no cursor provided in the underlying page for a read only field, I would think.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 9:27 AM, Luke Robinett wrote:

Hi Gene. If you check out the issue page I linked to, I provide steps for how to reproduce the issue. Let me know if that works for you. Thanks!



On May 27, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 Can you provide a link to a page with a read only edit field?  I don't recall sites that have them.  I probably just read the content and don't pay attention much if the field says read only.  I would ordinarily read text where I am not writing in browse mode.

I just tried the Google search field and I had no problem but that isn't a read only edit field.

Gene

On 5/27/2022 6:44 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:

In Google Chrome running on Windows 10 Home Edition, NVDA only announces the first character of whatever text is present when in focus mode and using the arrow keys to navigate by character inside read-only text boxes. For example, if the text box contains the word “Hello,” pressing the left or right arrow keys just results in NVDA saying “H.”

 

Similar behavior occurs in Microsoft Edge except NVDA says the word “blank” instead of the first character in the text box. This suggests it may be a broader issue with Chromium browsers. In Firefox, NVDA functions normally in read-only text boxes.

 

I’ve also opened a GitHub ticket for this issue which can be found here:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13745

 

I searched existing closed and open issues prior to opening a new one and didn’t find a previous report of this issue. Please refer to my bug report for more details and background.

 

Thanks,

Luke

 

 

 


Re: NVDA Malfunctions In Read-Only Text Boxes In Google Chrome When In Focus Mode

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are working with.  It appears to be some sort of source code.  When I go to the page, I hear something like welcome to and then the name of an editor.

However, it appears to me that NVDA is working as expected.  A read only edit field is read only, you can't write in it.  Focus mode doesn't let you move in a web page unless you are in a field that allows movement, such as an edit field that allows you to write when in focus mode.  When in structures like combo boxes, you can move as well or in a list of radio buttons.  But the structure on the actual web page must allow you to move and I would think that by definition, a read only edit field wouldn't.  There is no cursor provided in the underlying page for a read only field, I would think.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 9:27 AM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Hi Gene. If you check out the issue page I linked to, I provide steps for how to reproduce the issue. Let me know if that works for you. Thanks!

On May 27, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 Can you provide a link to a page with a read only edit field?  I don't recall sites that have them.  I probably just read the content and don't pay attention much if the field says read only.  I would ordinarily read text where I am not writing in browse mode.

I just tried the Google search field and I had no problem but that isn't a read only edit field.

Gene

On 5/27/2022 6:44 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:

In Google Chrome running on Windows 10 Home Edition, NVDA only announces the first character of whatever text is present when in focus mode and using the arrow keys to navigate by character inside read-only text boxes. For example, if the text box contains the word “Hello,” pressing the left or right arrow keys just results in NVDA saying “H.”

 

Similar behavior occurs in Microsoft Edge except NVDA says the word “blank” instead of the first character in the text box. This suggests it may be a broader issue with Chromium browsers. In Firefox, NVDA functions normally in read-only text boxes.

 

I’ve also opened a GitHub ticket for this issue which can be found here:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13745

 

I searched existing closed and open issues prior to opening a new one and didn’t find a previous report of this issue. Please refer to my bug report for more details and background.

 

Thanks,

Luke

 



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