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Re: help with an edit field

Ken Perry
 

Have you tried it with Narrator? I have also found if you use chromvox it sometimes works.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carlos Medrano
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 1:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

Hmm, unless my NVDA is broken, I'd say that the JavaScript for the autocomplete has a bug in it that makes it really hard to pick the school unless you brute force the entries one by one.


As a workaround, are you able to request a transcript from your school's self-service portal? For example, I can sign into my school's information system and I see an option to request an official transcript and have it mailed somewhere that is independent from the national student clearinghouse.


I welcome any additional feedback from others; so far I've tried Chrome, Microsoft Edge, and Internet Explorer with the latest version of NVDA. I don't have Firefox installed on this machine for me to try at the moment, but that may be helpful.


On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle
every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work
similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work. All
I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains
multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't
seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to
select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as
much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any
help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks
already. The link is
https://tsorder.studentclearinghouse.org/school/select
Thanks,
Bob





Re: help with an edit field

Carlos Medrano
 

Hmm, unless my NVDA is broken, I'd say that the JavaScript for the autocomplete has a bug in it that makes it really hard to pick the school unless you brute force the entries one by one.


As a workaround, are you able to request a transcript from your school's self-service portal? For example, I can sign into my school's information system and I see an option to request an official transcript and have it mailed somewhere that is independent from the national student clearinghouse.


I welcome any additional feedback from others; so far I've tried Chrome, Microsoft Edge, and Internet Explorer with the latest version of NVDA. I don't have Firefox installed on this machine for me to try at the moment, but that may be helpful.

On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle
every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work
similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work. All
I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains
multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't
seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to
select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as
much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any
help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks
already. The link is
https://tsorder.studentclearinghouse.org/school/select
Thanks,
Bob




Re: help with an edit field

Sarah k Alawami
 

Try alt down arrow. I had to do this in a trail head module today.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 9:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

Yes, that's standard edit commands. However, when I start typing the name of a school, NVDA says "this is an auto complete element and there are # results available. Keyboard users, use up and down arrows to select an option." The # in the example is, as one might guess, an actual number. However, when using up and down arrow with NVDA in focus mode, I just get the same auto complete message and NVDA reads what I've already typed in, it won't let me actually choose a result.
The question is how do I actually choose a result as intended?

On 5/28/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
When you are on the line that says enter the name of the school, press
enter. That makes the field editable and you can then press enter
again to go into focus mode if you aren't automatically placed in it.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle
every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work
similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work.
All I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains
multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't
seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to
select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as
much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any
help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks
already. The link is
https://tsorder.studentclearinghouse.org/school/select
Thanks,
Bob










Re: help with an edit field

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Yes, that's standard edit commands. However, when I start typing the
name of a school, NVDA says "this is an auto complete element and
there are # results available. Keyboard users, use up and down arrows
to select an option." The # in the example is, as one might guess, an
actual number. However, when using up and down arrow with NVDA in
focus mode, I just get the same auto complete message and NVDA reads
what I've already typed in, it won't let me actually choose a result.
The question is how do I actually choose a result as intended?

On 5/28/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
When you are on the line that says enter the name of the school, press
enter.  That makes the field editable and you can then press enter again
to go into focus mode if you aren't automatically placed in it.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle
every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work
similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work. All
I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains
multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't
seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to
select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as
much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any
help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks
already. The link is
https://tsorder.studentclearinghouse.org/school/select
Thanks,
Bob










Re: help with an edit field

Gene
 

When you are on the line that says enter the name of the school, press enter.  That makes the field editable and you can then press enter again to go into focus mode if you aren't automatically placed in it.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Hi all,
Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle
every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work
similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work. All
I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains
multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't
seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to
select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as
much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any
help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks
already. The link is
https://tsorder.studentclearinghouse.org/school/select
Thanks,
Bob







help with an edit field

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Hi all,
Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle
every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work
similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work. All
I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains
multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't
seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to
select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as
much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any
help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks
already. The link is
https://tsorder.studentclearinghouse.org/school/select
Thanks,
Bob


Re: Speech History Add-On

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I missed this one too when it lost compatibility after 2021.1.  I just downloaded and installed it.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Sarah k Alawami
 

Cool. Have a good vacation. I’m going on one myself which will be good, I need the brake. When I come back I’m sure I’ll have a lot of exciting things to look forward to.

 

Happy Saturday.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 3:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Hi,

Two things:

  1. Add-on Updater will update disabled add-ons (do not confuse this with incompatible add-ons). An add-on update will be shown if: there is an actual update (version differences) and the add-on is seen as compatible with the NVDA version you have.
  2. As for add-ons mentioned in recent thread such as Speech History (see a different thread on that add-on), all I can say is that a birdy told me that significant events are on the horizon (shhh, not here).

Cheers,

Joseph (my official vacation starts on May 31, 2022)


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

You must update each one - one at a time.
Jason Bratcher


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Hi,

Two things:

  1. Add-on Updater will update disabled add-ons (do not confuse this with incompatible add-ons). An add-on update will be shown if: there is an actual update (version differences) and the add-on is seen as compatible with the NVDA version you have.
  2. As for add-ons mentioned in recent thread such as Speech History (see a different thread on that add-on), all I can say is that a birdy told me that significant events are on the horizon (shhh, not here).

Cheers,

Joseph (my official vacation starts on May 31, 2022)


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Sarah k Alawami
 

I do, and love that thing. I hope though it will update disabled add ons. I know that was not meant at me but take care anyway.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Do you have the add-on updater? That will help you

 

 


 

On 5/28/2022 1:56 PM, Danny Park wrote:

Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny






Re: Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep I saw the msg and downloaded the update.  I have not installed it as I was busy taking care of some other stuffage.  I did join the add ons group though so I can get word of anything new to play with and or brake.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech History Add-On

 

Try this. This was copied from a message he sent yesterday.

 

This release adds compatibility with NVDA 2022.1.  There are no additional changes.

https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history/releases/download/v2022.1/speechHistory.nvda-addon

 

 

 


 

On 5/28/2022 2:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

Do you have the add-on updater? That will help you





On 5/28/2022 1:56 PM, Danny Park wrote:

Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny







Re: Speech History Add-On

 

Try this. This was copied from a message he sent yesterday.


This release adds compatibility with NVDA 2022.1.  There are no additional changes.

https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history/releases/download/v2022.1/speechHistory.nvda-addon






On 5/28/2022 2:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.


Re: Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ah I’ll take a look I didn’t actually see the file name, but I did see the last updated date which was last year. That should have thrown a red flag for me. For what ever reason, maybe not enough coffee yet, it didn’t. lol!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speach history add on

 

What's available at this very moment for the Speech History add-on is not compatible with NVDA 2022.1.  Even the add-on file includes 2021.1 in its name, which is a big hint.

I believe that Mr. Scholes may have been just the tiniest bit "late to the party" in issuing his official update.  See the GitHub Page for Speech History, where, as of the moment I'm typing this, there are entries for making it compatible with NVDA 2022.1 logged 21 hours ago.  An update is clearly in the pipeline.  I can't say precisely when it will exit said pipeline.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Speech History Add-On

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ok, yep I knew mine was disabled so I went to the page thinking that maybe I had  missed an update or 10, nope, I didn’t even miss an update or 10. I don’t see any contact information on the add on page, unless I missed it, so can who ever it is, if they are on here please look into this, or if not, can someone ping the author? I’ll also  look at that nvda add ons site, the store thing to see if maybe a beta is up there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speach history add on

 

I tried installing it in the current NVDA version and it was blocked because it isn't compatible.

Gene

On 5/28/2022 1:39 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I know that James Scholes  was the one who coded the add on, but it does not appear to be compatible with the latest NVDA. Can someone please tell me I’m wrong here? Here is the link to the add on on the nvda page.

 

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html

 

I didn’t see it under legacy which is making me curious now.

 

Thanks. I also didn’t see it update in the add on updater which is odd as it I think has before but don’t quote me on that.

 


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

Steve Wettlaufer
 

If you install the Add-on Updater add-on it will check for any available updates for you and then you can choose to install them when you're ready.  This only works for add-ons that are on the official NVDA page, so if you're using the Codefactory voices, for instance, it won't catch that.

Steve

On 2022-05-28 1:56 p.m., Danny Park wrote:
Is there any way to have all incompatible add-ins automatically updated or do you have to update them one at a time.


Thanks,

Danny





Re: Speech History Add-On

 

And, based on this post by the author in the NVDA Add-Ons group, https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/message/18933, it would appear that the only update that was required was to the manifest, in this case, and that a pull request is pending so that Add-On Updater will recognize the latest version.

A direct link to the latest version is also in that post for those who want to manually update.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: NVDA Add-Ons - About Updating

 

If the add-ons are part of the community add-ons, and you have the Add-On Updater add-on installed, when compatible versions become available you will be notified and you go through the standard process to update.

If they are third-party add-ons, then you have to take care of it yourself.  This means, of course, for each third-party add-on individually.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: Speech History Add-On

 

What's available at this very moment for the Speech History add-on is not compatible with NVDA 2022.1.  Even the add-on file includes 2021.1 in its name, which is a big hint.

I believe that Mr. Scholes may have been just the tiniest bit "late to the party" in issuing his official update.  See the GitHub Page for Speech History, where, as of the moment I'm typing this, there are entries for making it compatible with NVDA 2022.1 logged 21 hours ago.  An update is clearly in the pipeline.  I can't say precisely when it will exit said pipeline.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed

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