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Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how often it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by default, by typing ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that the first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again and you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You still can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA should speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last. One hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows. NVDA does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab and shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked. Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar can schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can also link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can choose if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and look for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open asking you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the time, the length and then you have a drop down list where you can choose if the meeting should occur once, every day, every week, every month, every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What the invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....)
You can choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for example)
Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie


Question about best configuration of windows 10/11 for nvda.

Brian's Mail list account
 

I'm asking this for somebody else who is not subscribed to this list. I normally keep a low profile these days, due to my general workload, but thought I'd ask as my take on it is whatever works for you, but starters often seem perplexed at the myriad ways Windows can be tweaked and the effect on how nvda can use it.

Brian

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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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Re: profile "say all" and how to increase reading spead with synth settings ring

Cyrille
 

Hello

Would you like to change only speech speed on the fly as in Jaws? Or would you like to be able to change more parameters?
If you want to change only speech speed, there is already a GitHub issue for it. You may comment there.
If you want something more complete, you may open a new ticket.

In the meantime, you can add a gesture to enable and disable the sayAll profile; this is already quicker than opening the profile dialog to make some modifications.

Cheers,

Cyrille



On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 09:53 PM, J.G wrote:
Hello,

I've created a say all profile, where I disabled announcement of some elements. it is activated whenever I press ins (nvda) key + down arrow. and here is my problem.
sometimes I want to increase reading speed via syinth settings ring (ctrl+ins+arrow keys), but it does not work for desired profile but on a default profile or profile linked with currently focused application.
so what should I do to manage say all profile on the fly. it is very frustrating to go to profile dialog and manually activate say all profile to change this setting and then deactivate it to use other profiles again.
I ask it, due to it worked in NVDA versions before 2019.3.
If there is no solution, should I open a github issue?
and has anyone a same problem?
so here are str to clarify, wha I am talking about:
- obviously, create say all profile
- open document, which you want to read.
- press say all command.
- try to increase/decrease reading speed via synth settings ring

current behaviour:
reading speed is changed on a default profile or on a profile linked to focused application.

expected behaviour: reading speed should be changed on say all profile.

I know it is understandable, that when reading stops, NVDA falls back to previously active profile. but anyway is there any solution, how to bring back changing synth parameters via ring to a say all profile again on the fly?
one solution would be a short delay before NVDA falls back to previous profile when synth ring was used. it means, if ring was used in five seconds after reading was stopped, then this would apply to say all profile. interval could be also shorter, but...
I ask it because JAWS have simular function to increase/decrease reading speed durin say all on the fly and it is very useful.

thanks.
best regards,
Jožef


Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

umut korkmaz
 

Gene, thank you for the information you provided.

In previous plugins, this was working fine with CTRL+Shift+T.

Thanks again.

Cheers,

Umut KORKMAZ

Windows için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Gene
Gönderilme: 30 Mayıs 2022 Pazartesi 13:25
Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Konu: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

If that function is no longer available in the add-on, you can find it using object navigation in the jump to time dialog.  I'll describe how to do this if the add-on doesn't support that function any longer.

Gene

On 5/30/2022 4:24 AM, umut korkmaz wrote:

Hi,

Extendet Winamp 2.2 Addon provided via updater.

The CTRL+Shift+T shortcut has been removed.

How do we find out the total time?

I will be happy if you inform me.

Kind regards,

Umut KORKMAZ

 

Windows için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Joseph Lee
Gönderilme: 30 Mayıs 2022 Pazartesi 09:51
Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Konu: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi,

Can you bring this up on add-ons list? I figured there are others that may need to be examined.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

Gene
 

If that function is no longer available in the add-on, you can find it using object navigation in the jump to time dialog.  I'll describe how to do this if the add-on doesn't support that function any longer.

Gene

On 5/30/2022 4:24 AM, umut korkmaz wrote:

Hi,

Extendet Winamp 2.2 Addon provided via updater.

The CTRL+Shift+T shortcut has been removed.

How do we find out the total time?

I will be happy if you inform me.

Kind regards,

Umut KORKMAZ

 

Windows için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Joseph Lee
Gönderilme: 30 Mayıs 2022 Pazartesi 09:51
Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Konu: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi,

Can you bring this up on add-ons list? I figured there are others that may need to be examined.

Cheers,

Joseph

 



Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

umut korkmaz
 

Hi,

Extendet Winamp 2.2 Addon provided via updater.

The CTRL+Shift+T shortcut has been removed.

How do we find out the total time?

I will be happy if you inform me.

Kind regards,

Umut KORKMAZ

 

Windows için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Joseph Lee
Gönderilme: 30 Mayıs 2022 Pazartesi 09:51
Kime: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Konu: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi,

Can you bring this up on add-ons list? I figured there are others that may need to be examined.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz <zvonimirek222@...>
 

Hi!

Yes, i can bring the whole matter to the NVDA- addons mailing list.

This should be examined, we should make somehow contact with authors, and to see the status of their add-ons and what not.

Best,

Zvonimir

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 8:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi,

Can you bring this up on add-ons list? I figured there are others that may need to be examined.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi,

Can you bring this up on add-ons list? I figured there are others that may need to be examined.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz <zvonimirek222@...>
 

Hi Joseph,

The status of Newfon is as follows.

We should remove it from the official site, as the original author mentioned passed away.

synthesizer was taken by the another Russian author, which has the code, and synthesizer itself is not under Gpl.

There is compatible version on the external resource maintained by the Russian community.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 6:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi all,

A lot of goodies in this update (as of May 30, 2022):

  • A lot of add-ons are now compatible- about 80%, including add-ons showing as "testing in progress" a.k.a. queued for distribution on community add-ons website. If we take out Enhanced ARIA and Screen Curtain which are NVDA features and NV Speech Player which is part of eSpeak NG and Newfon for which we don't have updated info on maintenance, compatibility percentage rises to about 84%. Considering that until last week 60% of ad-ons were compatible, this is a huge progress - at least I can worry less during my vacation in June.
  • If you are using Add-on Updater (or if not, go ahead and install Add-on Updater), check for add-on updates because at least seven add-on updates are available.
  • IMPORTANT: some add-ons will require NVDA 2022.1, notably Notepad++ add-on which was updated today.
  • Fixed (finally) the root cause of updated VLC add-on not being offered through Add-on Updater - yet another server-side oversight - specifically, the database was using a wrong data point for this add-on.
  • Clock and Virtual Review add-on updates were released by maintainers and were queued for distribution on community add-ons website. If things go well, Add-on Updater will offer them to you this coming week.
  • It might be possible that at least one more add-on may become compatible in coming days to weeks, and a very exciting add-on is in the works (not written by me).

And with that, I'm done with updating compatibility info for now. Enjoy the new add-on updates.

P.S. When I come back in July, I will talk about NVDA 2022.1 requirement for my own add-ons - I'm reviewing specific details. Although things are not really set in stone, all I can say at this time is that, before end of this year, my add-ons (Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials) will ask you to upgrade to NVDA 2022.1. There is also a small possibility that I might rather ask for NVDA 2022.2 (won't go into details, but I can tell you that this upcoming NVDA release (alpha at the moment) packs interesting new features and changes, some of which folks have been asking for years; the update also includes at least two changes that will be useful for add-ons community, one of which will benefit app module writers a lot). I also need to revisit an earlier post I wrote concerning Windows 7 and my add-ons (a different thread, really), something I'm also thinking about and may have something to say by this fall.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Code Factory Add-on

E.T.
 

Ok great, got my voice back again. Thanks very much for the help.

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will make violent revolution inevitable."
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On 5/29/2022 7:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
No, it will not work, you need to download the latest one. The file is mislabeled but here is the link.
https://www.codefactoryglobal.com/downloads/installers/codefactory-py3-1.0.nvda-addon
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.T. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Add-on
Sarah, thanks. I did not see a newer file but still have the one I downloaded year ago. I shall see if that will work.
I am curious, if what NVDA is doing is removing these add-ons and why. Every time I update the 2021 version, I alwayus got the warning but never lost the CF add-on.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
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On 5/29/2022 12:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
If you bought from AtGuys sign in, go to account and drill down the table until you find your cf item, then click the link.

Good luckl.l

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.T. via
groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 10:49 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Add-on

Hi all,
Just updated to 2022/1 and my Code Factory add-on is gone again.
Couple questions. One, is Code Factory still available for this version?
If so, can someone give me a link to download a compatible Code Factory version? Thought I had link but it points me to an old version of Code Factory. Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...











profile "say all" and how to increase reading spead with synth settings ring

J.G
 

Hello,

I've created a say all profile, where I disabled announcement of some elements. it is activated whenever I press ins (nvda) key + down arrow. and here is my problem.
sometimes I want to increase reading speed via syinth settings ring (ctrl+ins+arrow keys), but it does not work for desired profile but on a default profile or profile linked with currently focused application.
so what should I do to manage say all profile on the fly. it is very frustrating to go to profile dialog and manually activate say all profile to change this setting and then deactivate it to use other profiles again.
I ask it, due to it worked in NVDA versions before 2019.3.
If there is no solution, should I open a github issue?
and has anyone a same problem?
so here are str to clarify, wha I am talking about:
- obviously, create say all profile
- open document, which you want to read.
- press say all command.
- try to increase/decrease reading speed via synth settings ring

current behaviour:
reading speed is changed on a default profile or on a profile linked to focused application.

expected behaviour: reading speed should be changed on say all profile.

I know it is understandable, that when reading stops, NVDA falls back to previously active profile. but anyway is there any solution, how to bring back changing synth parameters via ring to a say all profile again on the fly?
one solution would be a short delay before NVDA falls back to previous profile when synth ring was used. it means, if ring was used in five seconds after reading was stopped, then this would apply to say all profile. interval could be also shorter, but...
I ask it because JAWS have simular function to increase/decrease reading speed durin say all on the fly and it is very useful.

thanks.
best regards,
Jožef


NVDA with Outlook 2019.nv

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hi Experts,

Sorry if this is off topic here. If so please guide me to the correct group.

With Outlook 2019, I cannot access the ribbon menu actions easier as before versions.

Simply, I am unable to sort my Emails easier as it was in the previous Outlook versions.

When I press ält + V”and get to the View menu, unable to find the sort by menue.

Is there any way of getting this like in the earlier versions?

Sorting and back seems to be difficult now.

Please guide me.

Thanks,

Ravi.


Re: NVDA 2022.1 and add-ons: compatibility updates

 

Hi all,

A lot of goodies in this update (as of May 30, 2022):

  • A lot of add-ons are now compatible- about 80%, including add-ons showing as "testing in progress" a.k.a. queued for distribution on community add-ons website. If we take out Enhanced ARIA and Screen Curtain which are NVDA features and NV Speech Player which is part of eSpeak NG and Newfon for which we don't have updated info on maintenance, compatibility percentage rises to about 84%. Considering that until last week 60% of ad-ons were compatible, this is a huge progress - at least I can worry less during my vacation in June.
  • If you are using Add-on Updater (or if not, go ahead and install Add-on Updater), check for add-on updates because at least seven add-on updates are available.
  • IMPORTANT: some add-ons will require NVDA 2022.1, notably Notepad++ add-on which was updated today.
  • Fixed (finally) the root cause of updated VLC add-on not being offered through Add-on Updater - yet another server-side oversight - specifically, the database was using a wrong data point for this add-on.
  • Clock and Virtual Review add-on updates were released by maintainers and were queued for distribution on community add-ons website. If things go well, Add-on Updater will offer them to you this coming week.
  • It might be possible that at least one more add-on may become compatible in coming days to weeks, and a very exciting add-on is in the works (not written by me).

And with that, I'm done with updating compatibility info for now. Enjoy the new add-on updates.

P.S. When I come back in July, I will talk about NVDA 2022.1 requirement for my own add-ons - I'm reviewing specific details. Although things are not really set in stone, all I can say at this time is that, before end of this year, my add-ons (Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials) will ask you to upgrade to NVDA 2022.1. There is also a small possibility that I might rather ask for NVDA 2022.2 (won't go into details, but I can tell you that this upcoming NVDA release (alpha at the moment) packs interesting new features and changes, some of which folks have been asking for years; the update also includes at least two changes that will be useful for add-ons community, one of which will benefit app module writers a lot). I also need to revisit an earlier post I wrote concerning Windows 7 and my add-ons (a different thread, really), something I'm also thinking about and may have something to say by this fall.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: accessibility of Libre Office

J.G
 

Hello,

and what about say all function in LO? what should I do that this function would work as expected and will read text until end of a document, not only of the end of a current page in Writer?

thanks.

regards,
Jožef


Re: a particular app

Quentin Christensen
 

For those using NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, the equivalent keyboard shortcut is NVDA+. (NVDA+full stop).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 3:17 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
If you aren't using the add-on, move to the letter you want announced using the usual arrow keys.  Move the same way you move through a document at any time.  Then, when you are on the letter, press numpad 2 twice quickly.  The second time, you will hear the phonetic announcement of a letter, such as Charlie for c.

Gene

On 5/27/2022 11:58 AM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I am missing some information here. Do you have to push the NVDA key to get this to work or does it not work in email? I have tried it a couple of times and have not been able to succeed. Thanks.


On 5/26/2022 4:18 PM, Monte Single rote:
Hi Bryce,

It is not an app;  it is a feature of nvda itself.
I use it often as my hearing  is not the best and I want  to know the exact spelling of a name or word.

So, say   I come across the word Banff, as in Banff national park in alberta.
And I think was that an "f" or an :s:?
I use the right arrow to land on the letter I am not sure of, and press the down arrow twice quickly.  That it,  you will hear  the alpha bravo equivalent.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brice Mijares
Sent: May 26, 2022 12:36 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] a particular app

I can't remember the name of this app where you could  use your arrow keys and hear the letters alpha for A B for bravo ETC. Would some kind sole refresh my memory of this app? Thank You.














--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Code Factory Add-on

Sarah k Alawami
 

No, it will not work, you need to download the latest one. The file is mislabeled but here is the link.

https://www.codefactoryglobal.com/downloads/installers/codefactory-py3-1.0.nvda-addon

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.T. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Add-on

Sarah, thanks. I did not see a newer file but still have the one I downloaded year ago. I shall see if that will work.

I am curious, if what NVDA is doing is removing these add-ons and why. Every time I update the 2021 version, I alwayus got the warning but never lost the CF add-on.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...

On 5/29/2022 12:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
If you bought from AtGuys sign in, go to account and drill down the table until you find your cf item, then click the link.

Good luckl.l

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.T. via
groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 10:49 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Add-on

Hi all,
Just updated to 2022/1 and my Code Factory add-on is gone again.
Couple questions. One, is Code Factory still available for this version?
If so, can someone give me a link to download a compatible Code Factory version? Thought I had link but it points me to an old version of Code Factory. Thanks.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...











Re: Code Factory Add-on

E.T.
 

Sarah, thanks. I did not see a newer file but still have the one I downloaded year ago. I shall see if that will work.

I am curious, if what NVDA is doing is removing these add-ons and why. Every time I update the 2021 version, I alwayus got the warning but never lost the CF add-on.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...

On 5/29/2022 12:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
If you bought from AtGuys sign in, go to account and drill down the table until you find your cf item, then click the link.
Good luckl.l
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of E.T. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 10:49 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Add-on
Hi all,
Just updated to 2022/1 and my Code Factory add-on is gone again.
Couple questions. One, is Code Factory still available for this version?
If so, can someone give me a link to download a compatible Code Factory version? Thought I had link but it points me to an old version of Code Factory. Thanks.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...


Re: help with an edit field

Sarah k Alawami
 

By this point I would just call aira and have them fill out the form for you, you would have gotten it done much much faster, then you can advocate to the company as to why x and or y needs fixing.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carlos Medrano
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

You may be able to use NVDA's mouse tracking feature with positional tones to help you draw it, but it's not perfect / really convenient to do so. Positional tones can be toggled in the mouse category in the NVDA settings dialogue.


On 5/29/2022 1:45 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Using David's method, I managed to get it to work, but what I was
hoping to have happen, which was the address fields already being
populated, did not happen even with the fields chosen as hoped. Quick
question, the site requires a signature, either printed and sent back
to them, or electronically. The problem is the signature has to be
drawn with the mouse. Is there a way to sign such documents with NVDA,
or do I need to use the print copy?

On 5/29/22, Carlos Medrano <crlsmdrn@...> wrote:
Nice idea to try object navigation. I tried document review mode, but
that really didn't help me; it's something worth trying.


Regarding bug versus flaw: The reason why I stated it as a bug was
because an attempt was done to try and make the field accessible as
shown by the ARIA help messages. Maybe the field was accessible once
upon a time, but an update to part of the stack they're using broke
the field's accessibility. This is pure speculation on my part, but
I'm speaking from personal experience that updates to code libraries
can cause things to break in strange and unusual ways sometimes.
Moreover, when hitting the arrows to go up and down the list would
just say undefined for me. In JavaScript, `undefined` is a data type
that uninitialized variables have by default.


On 5/29/2022 1:06 PM, Gene wrote:
You can use the method David described in both edit fields but you
may get more results in the key word field. I typed Chicago in the
other edit field and only got one. I typed Chicago in the key word
field and got four.

Gene

On 5/29/2022 12:52 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Thanks David, I'll try that. Btw, as someone trying to get into the
accessibility testing field, I completely agree with you.

On 5/29/22, David Goldfield<david.goldfield@...> wrote:
This is a terribly designed autocomplete. However, there is a
workaround but it involves using object navigation.
Start typing in the first few letters of the desired school. Once
you do this use your numeric keypad, assuming that you have a
full-size keyboard, and press insert numpad-4 to move across the
objects until you hear NVDA announce the word "list."
Once you hear this press insert numpad-2 to drill down into that list.
Insert numpad-6 should move from one item to the next in the list
of schools.
When you hear the school that you want press insert numpad-enter
to select it.
Next, navigate with the tab key to the Continue button and select it.
If you don't have a full-size keyboard I'm afraid you'll either
need to look up the laptop equivalents for these hotkeys or use a
full-size keyboard as I will admit that I never learned the laptop
layout.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist [JAWS Certified,
2022]<https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification>
NVDA Certified Expert<https://certification.nvaccess.org/>

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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 12:19 PM To:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

You didn't cause one. it isn't your responsibility if people
disagree about something you said if you aren't expressing
something you think is controversial. In addition, a little
controversy even if you say something people may disagree with, is
alright as long as you are staying within the list rules. I may
express an opinion about a program, for example, that is
controversial. There are going to be disagreements.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 11:13 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:
I apologize;
I did not mean to cause a rift.

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

That's a real example of both civility and intellectual open mindedness.
I
didn't know you harbor such hostility toward me.

If you can't be civil and you refuse to discuss what I say without
attacking me, don't bother.

Your last message displays a logical fallacy. You said that you
are confident no one in the accessibility field will agree with
me. So what?
That is arguing from authority and doesn't prove anything. How
many people believed the world was flat before Columbuss?

You have not, in either answer, presented any reasons for
believing what you believe. You just say what you believe.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 10:51 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Lack of accessibility isn't an error? I am quite certain that
nobody in the accessibility field will agree with you but I am
done with this conversation. You are free to respond to this if
you like but I will, unfortunately, resume my habit of skipping
your messages so your response will not be read by me.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

I didn't say anything about what other words someone might want to
use, but bug is not correct. You might want to call it a flaw or
an omission, or use some sort of word or phrase that indicates
that it is no longer acceptable not to include accessibility, but
it isn't a bug.

One definition from Google I just looked up is:
"an error in a computer program or system."

Lack of accessibility isn't an error. It may be unconscionable,
unacceptable or you may wish to use other wording, but it is not
an error.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 10:27 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Gene wrote:
I don't consider lack of accessibility to be a bug.
As an accessibility tester I disagree. I understand what you are
saying in your example of a stove which doesn't take inclusive
design into account.
However, if you have a Web site which has no labels on form fields
or which doesn't expose an edit field to a screen reader this is
definitely considered a bug or defect and needs to be treated as
such.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

I don't consider lack of accessibility to be a bug. A bug is an
unintended behavior. Saying a lack of accessibility is a bug
implies that the item was intended to be accessible but isn't
because of unanticipated problem or problems.

If a stove isn't accessible and isn't designed to be, that isn't a bug.
You
may call it a flaw, a serious flaw, you may describe it as you
wish in terms of advocating for more accessibility, but it isn't a
bug. It is operating as designed.

If my stove is designed to be accessible and the speech is giving
inaccurate numbers as I move through settings, that is a bug.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 7:49 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Quoting:
On considering this further, I don't know if this is a bug in anything.
It may be that the results shown as you move aren't announced
because the function isn't designed to be accessible.
end quote:

Wow, wouldn't that be considered a "major" bug then? Or, At least
a "big flaw"?
Isn't that bad if someone designs a control on a page to be
purposefully inaccessible?
(especially a school clearing house)?

Just curious?

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

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Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 8:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

It appears i was wrong about the edit field. It appears to be a
standard edit field. I didn't hear anything about number of
results and moving up and down, as I recall. I did try using the
search field where you enter a key word to find your school and I
then got results like yours.

I figured out how to find a school name. Its a little work but
you can accomplish this in the following way:
Follow the key word search link.
An edit field will become available. If you are not in forms mode
go into forms mode. Just pressing enter where you are after
following the link should do it.
Be in forms mode in the key word search edit field.
Type a word such as Chicago.
You will hear how many results there are.
Down arrow to the first one. You won't hear the school read but
you will hear that you are on the first result.
Press enter. You have now placed the name in the field you are in
and it can be read while in forms mode. I don't recall if you
automatically hear it but you can use read current line or maybe
just pressing the down or up arrow will read it.
If that is not the result you want, select all, control a, and
press delete.
Write Chicago again.
Down arrow to the second result and press enter.
Again, you will be able to hear the word.
Follow this procedure until you hear the name you want.
Once you do, it is in the field it should be in and you can then
activate the continue button, which will now be available.

On considering this further, I don't know if this is a bug in anything.
It
may be that the results shown as you move aren't announced because
the function isn't designed to be accessible.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 7:07 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
No, it isn't standard. I had to press enter on select a school to
make the field editable in the first place. Then I had to press
enter again, since I am using manual switching in NVDA, to go into
forms mode. You may have to as well, since you are in a field
that is not initially editable.

As far as the select a school edit field is concerned, is that the
field you are discussing? I'll look at the field again but I
thought I heard select a number when I was

Gene
On 5/28/2022 11:36 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Yes, that's standard edit commands. However, when I start typing
the

name of a school, NVDA says "this is an auto complete element and

there are # results available. Keyboard users, use up and down
arrows

to select an option." The # in the example is, as one might guess,
an

actual number. However, when using up and down arrow with NVDA in

focus mode, I just get the same auto complete message and NVDA
reads

what I've already typed in, it won't let me actually choose a result.

The question is how do I actually choose a result as intended?



On 5/28/22, Gene<gsasner@...><mailto:gsasner@...> wrote:

When you are on the line that says enter the name of the school,
press

enter. That makes the field editable and you can then press enter
again

to go into focus mode if you aren't automatically placed in it.



Gene



On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Hi all,

Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play
Heardle

every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work

similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work.
All

I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains

multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I
can't

seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to

select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as

much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result.
Any

help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two
weeks

already. The link is

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Re: Code Factory Add-on

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you bought from AtGuys sign in, go to account and drill down the table until you find your cf item, then click the link.

Good luckl.l

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Hi all,
Just updated to 2022/1 and my Code Factory add-on is gone again.
Couple questions. One, is Code Factory still available for this version?
If so, can someone give me a link to download a compatible Code Factory version? Thought I had link but it points me to an old version of Code Factory. Thanks.

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Re: help with an edit field

Carlos Medrano
 

You may be able to use NVDA's mouse tracking feature with positional tones to help you draw it, but it's not perfect / really convenient to do so. Positional tones can be toggled in the mouse category in the NVDA settings dialogue.

On 5/29/2022 1:45 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Using David's method, I managed to get it to work, but what I was
hoping to have happen, which was the address fields already being
populated, did not happen even with the fields chosen as hoped. Quick
question, the site requires a signature, either printed and sent back
to them, or electronically. The problem is the signature has to be
drawn with the mouse. Is there a way to sign such documents with NVDA,
or do I need to use the print copy?

On 5/29/22, Carlos Medrano <crlsmdrn@...> wrote:
Nice idea to try object navigation. I tried document review mode, but
that really didn't help me; it's something worth trying.


Regarding bug versus flaw: The reason why I stated it as a bug was
because an attempt was done to try and make the field accessible as
shown by the ARIA help messages. Maybe the field was accessible once
upon a time, but an update to part of the stack they're using broke the
field's accessibility. This is pure speculation on my part, but I'm
speaking from personal experience that updates to code libraries can
cause things to break in strange and unusual ways sometimes. Moreover,
when hitting the arrows to go up and down the list would just say
undefined for me. In JavaScript, `undefined` is a data type that
uninitialized variables have by default.


On 5/29/2022 1:06 PM, Gene wrote:
You can use the method David described in both edit fields but you may
get more results in the key word field.  I typed Chicago in the other
edit field and only got one.  I typed Chicago in the key word field
and got four.

Gene

On 5/29/2022 12:52 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Thanks David, I'll try that. Btw, as someone trying to get into the
accessibility testing field, I completely agree with you.

On 5/29/22, David Goldfield<david.goldfield@...> wrote:
This is a terribly designed autocomplete. However, there is a workaround
but
it involves using object navigation.
Start typing in the first few letters of the desired school. Once you
do
this use your numeric keypad, assuming that you have a full-size
keyboard,
and press insert numpad-4 to move across the objects until you hear
NVDA
announce the word "list."
Once you hear this press insert numpad-2 to drill down into that list.
Insert numpad-6 should move from one item to the next in the list of
schools.
When you hear the school that you want press insert numpad-enter to
select
it.
Next, navigate with the tab key to the Continue button and select it.
If you don't have a full-size keyboard I'm afraid you'll either need to
look
up the laptop equivalents for these hotkeys or use a full-size keyboard
as I
will admit that I never learned the laptop layout.



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From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 12:19 PM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

You didn't cause one. it isn't your responsibility if people disagree
about
something you said if you aren't expressing something you think is
controversial. In addition, a little controversy even if you say
something
people may disagree with, is alright as long as you are staying within
the
list rules. I may express an opinion about a program, for example, that
is
controversial. There are going to be disagreements.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 11:13 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:
I apologize;
I did not mean to cause a rift.

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
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Ph: 618 783 9331

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<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 12:04 PM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

That's a real example of both civility and intellectual open mindedness.
I
didn't know you harbor such hostility toward me.

If you can't be civil and you refuse to discuss what I say without
attacking
me, don't bother.

Your last message displays a logical fallacy. You said that you are
confident no one in the accessibility field will agree with me. So
what?
That is arguing from authority and doesn't prove anything. How many
people
believed the world was flat before Columbuss?

You have not, in either answer, presented any reasons for believing what
you
believe. You just say what you believe.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 10:51 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Lack of accessibility isn't an error? I am quite certain that nobody in
the
accessibility field will agree with you but I am done with this
conversation. You are free to respond to this if you like but I will,
unfortunately, resume my habit of skipping your messages so your
response
will not be read by me.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

I didn't say anything about what other words someone might want to use,
but
bug is not correct. You might want to call it a flaw or an omission, or
use
some sort of word or phrase that indicates that it is no longer
acceptable
not to include accessibility, but it isn't a bug.

One definition from Google I just looked up is:
"an error in a computer program or system."

Lack of accessibility isn't an error. It may be unconscionable,
unacceptable or you may wish to use other wording, but it is not an
error.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 10:27 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Gene wrote:
I don't consider lack of accessibility to be a bug.
As an accessibility tester I disagree. I understand what you are saying
in
your example of a stove which doesn't take inclusive design into
account.
However, if you have a Web site which has no labels on form fields or
which
doesn't expose an edit field to a screen reader this is definitely
considered a bug or defect and needs to be treated as such.

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<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:03 AM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

I don't consider lack of accessibility to be a bug. A bug is an
unintended
behavior. Saying a lack of accessibility is a bug implies that the item
was
intended to be accessible but isn't because of unanticipated problem or
problems.

If a stove isn't accessible and isn't designed to be, that isn't a bug.
You
may call it a flaw, a serious flaw, you may describe it as you wish in
terms
of advocating for more accessibility, but it isn't a bug. It is
operating
as designed.

If my stove is designed to be accessible and the speech is giving
inaccurate
numbers as I move through settings, that is a bug.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 7:49 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:
Quoting:
On considering this further, I don't know if this is a bug in anything.
It may be that the results shown as you move aren't announced because
the
function isn't designed to be accessible.
end quote:

Wow, wouldn't that be considered a "major" bug then? Or,
At least a "big flaw"?
Isn't that bad if someone designs a control on a page to be
purposefully
inaccessible?
(especially a school clearing house)?

Just curious?

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
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<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 8:41 AM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with an edit field

It appears i was wrong about the edit field. It appears to be a
standard
edit field. I didn't hear anything about number of results and moving
up
and down, as I recall. I did try using the search field where you enter
a
key word to find your school and I then got results like yours.

I figured out how to find a school name. Its a little work but you can
accomplish this in the following way:
Follow the key word search link.
An edit field will become available. If you are not in forms mode go
into
forms mode. Just pressing enter where you are after following the link
should do it.
Be in forms mode in the key word search edit field.
Type a word such as Chicago.
You will hear how many results there are.
Down arrow to the first one. You won't hear the school read but you
will
hear that you are on the first result.
Press enter. You have now placed the name in the field you are in and
it
can be read while in forms mode. I don't recall if you automatically
hear
it but you can use read current line or maybe just pressing the down or
up
arrow will read it.
If that is not the result you want, select all, control a, and press
delete.
Write Chicago again.
Down arrow to the second result and press enter.
Again, you will be able to hear the word.
Follow this procedure until you hear the name you want.
Once you do, it is in the field it should be in and you can then
activate
the continue button, which will now be available.

On considering this further, I don't know if this is a bug in anything.
It
may be that the results shown as you move aren't announced because the
function isn't designed to be accessible.

Gene
On 5/29/2022 7:07 AM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
No, it isn't standard. I had to press enter on select a school to make
the
field editable in the first place. Then I had to press enter again,
since
I am using manual switching in NVDA, to go into forms mode. You may
have to
as well, since you are in a field that is not initially editable.

As far as the select a school edit field is concerned, is that the field
you
are discussing? I'll look at the field again but I thought I heard
select
a number when I was

Gene
On 5/28/2022 11:36 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Yes, that's standard edit commands. However, when I start typing the

name of a school, NVDA says "this is an auto complete element and

there are # results available. Keyboard users, use up and down arrows

to select an option." The # in the example is, as one might guess, an

actual number. However, when using up and down arrow with NVDA in

focus mode, I just get the same auto complete message and NVDA reads

what I've already typed in, it won't let me actually choose a result.

The question is how do I actually choose a result as intended?



On 5/28/22, Gene<gsasner@...><mailto:gsasner@...> wrote:

When you are on the line that says enter the name of the school, press

enter. That makes the field editable and you can then press enter
again

to go into focus mode if you aren't automatically placed in it.



Gene



On 5/28/2022 10:07 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Hi all,

Is the edit field on this page not a conventional one? I play Heardle

every day, and it looks like the edit box on this page should work

similar to that one, but I can't seem to get the one here to work. All

I hear is NVDA telling me that this is an edit box that contains

multiple selections, and how many results are available, but I can't

seem to choose any results. The same happens when you're trying to

select a school to send to, and I suspect I won't have to enter as

much information as it's asking for if I could choose a result. Any

help on this would be appreciated, as I've put this off for two weeks

already. The link is

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