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Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

Hello,

Here is how I solved the problem. While the focus was on the whole QuickAssist window, I've used NVDA's command to move the mouse cursor to the currently focused object (which in this case should be the whole QuickAssist window) and them simulated a single left mouse click. That moved the focus inside the QuickAssist window/document. This has to be done each time the QuickAssist program is launched, but it is still better than nothing.

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Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 31.5.2022 г. в 18:24, Brian Vogel написа:

For those of you that use Quick Assist and have done so with the original version in recent days, you will get a notice that a new version is now available from the Microsoft Store and that encourages you to download it.  If you do then "the fun begins," in several respects:
1. You still have the old version as well as the new version on your machine, and the keyboard shortcut to invoke Quick Assist still invokes the old version.
2.  If you invoke the old version after the new is installed, the initial dialog will ask you if you wish to open the new version, and that's presented as a link near the bottom of the initial dialog.
3.  For me, anyway, the initial dialog of the new Quick Assist is inaccessible, but in a weird way, about which more, below.

When the initial dialog is opened, NVDA has focus on the entire dialog and NVDA is in focus mode.  I cannot seem to force a change to browse mode, and other than the announcement that I am in the Quick Assist window/dialog, I get absolutlely no other information.  I cannot figure out, for the life of me how to get out of browse mode and into the "guts of the dialog."

I can do this "the sighted way" and click on the text at the very start and, after doing so, everything is accessible in exactly the way I'd expect.  But I'm having no success either with conventional commands or object navigation in making this transition to the actual dialog content occur.

I don't need any assistance with Quick Assist itself, but am wondering if anyone has had any success with getting into the initial dialog where you either request assistance by entering a code your assistant gives you or set yourself as the assistant and get that code to provide to the person you're assisting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

For those of you that use Quick Assist and have done so with the original version in recent days, you will get a notice that a new version is now available from the Microsoft Store and that encourages you to download it.  If you do then "the fun begins," in several respects:
1. You still have the old version as well as the new version on your machine, and the keyboard shortcut to invoke Quick Assist still invokes the old version.
2.  If you invoke the old version after the new is installed, the initial dialog will ask you if you wish to open the new version, and that's presented as a link near the bottom of the initial dialog.
3.  For me, anyway, the initial dialog of the new Quick Assist is inaccessible, but in a weird way, about which more, below.

When the initial dialog is opened, NVDA has focus on the entire dialog and NVDA is in focus mode.  I cannot seem to force a change to browse mode, and other than the announcement that I am in the Quick Assist window/dialog, I get absolutlely no other information.  I cannot figure out, for the life of me how to get out of browse mode and into the "guts of the dialog."

I can do this "the sighted way" and click on the text at the very start and, after doing so, everything is accessible in exactly the way I'd expect.  But I'm having no success either with conventional commands or object navigation in making this transition to the actual dialog content occur.

I don't need any assistance with Quick Assist itself, but am wondering if anyone has had any success with getting into the initial dialog where you either request assistance by entering a code your assistant gives you or set yourself as the assistant and get that code to provide to the person you're assisting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Odd, I remember seeing this, but at the time I Had a paid account. Maybe that's the difference?
Update: I see all of that, so maybe something corrupted in your zoom or copy of nvda. Run the reg tool in nvda and see if that helps. I even see "schedule from outlook" and "schedule from google. Also go to your profile in zoom and check for updates.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 9:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

The following is from my friend with my comments. She is running JAWS and this is what she sees as she tabs through the schedule meeting dialog. Perhaps does a ticket need to be put in for this?
Meeting Title
Add description link I usually tab past, NVDA doesn't even see this Choose date Select start time Select start time unit Select duration hours minutes Select time zone, again NVDA completely skips over Recurring check box Select recurrence type radio button
first option a specified interval
Second option something like On and then combo boxes for first..last and then for day of the week. NVDA sees none of this.
end date another Radio button either specify a date or after combo box occurrences again NVDA doesn't see this registration required checkbox, again not shown by NVDA. After that is meeting ID and security options, which NVDA reads fine.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
Typically, what I will do is schedule the meeting, but when Outlook
opens my calendar, I just close it without saving that invite. If the
meeting is only one time, the date and time will be in the text of the
invite, but from what you guys are telling me and what I've seen, that
may only be the case if Zoom is authenticated with Google Calendar.
I'll have to play around with Zoom a bit more and see if I can see
upcoming one time meetings scheduled for future dates, and if that is
the case, I'll have to call her and see if she sees the meeting in
question when she opens Zoom. I'll report back either later today or
tomorrow.

On 5/30/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Yep they are sure there. I had a calendar invite when I had the free
account option a while ago, maybe that has changed now?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io
<cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has
to be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface,
as in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web
interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how
often it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like
schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always
speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update
what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by
default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA
announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and
down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that
the first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again
and you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You
still can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA
should speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab
and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked.
Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar
can schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can
also link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can
choose if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and
look for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on
the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook
calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open
asking you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this
information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the
time, the length and then you have a drop down list where you can
choose if the meeting should occur once, every day, every week,
every month, every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What
the invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....) You
can choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie

























New NVDA Add-on: Speech Logger #addonrelease

Luke Davis
 

Good morning

Announcing a new(ish) add-on, which I don't believe has been announced here before.

Speech Logger. An NVDA add-on to log speech to a file or files. It can log speech generated on the local machine into a text file. It can also log speech from a remote machine received through the NVDA Remote add-on, either to the same or a different file.

This is probably an add-on that most people will never need, but for those who do need to work with what has been spoken, I don't believe anything has existed to do this before now.
The user who originally asked for this, was especially interested in being able to get a log of what was spoken on a remote machine via the NVDA remote add-on, which does not report its speech via the NVDA Speech Viewer.

More info and download: https://addons.nvda-project.org/./addons/speechLogger.en.html

This was originally released around May 5th, but I didn't mention it here because it wasn't available on the community add-ons site until more recently.

Enjoy!

Luke


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Bob, have you tried the Zoom Enhancements add-on, and does it have an effect on this? Sorry if that was already answered.

What you described does seem buggish to me, especially with the Jaws results you've demonstrated.

Luke


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

The following is from my friend with my comments. She is running JAWS
and this is what she sees as she tabs through the schedule meeting
dialog. Perhaps does a ticket need to be put in for this?
Meeting Title
Add description link I usually tab past, NVDA doesn't even see this
Choose date
Select start time
Select start time unit
Select duration hours minutes
Select time zone, again NVDA completely skips over
Recurring check box
Select recurrence type radio button
      first option a specified interval
       Second option something like On and then combo boxes for
first..last and then for day of the week. NVDA sees none of this.
end date another Radio button either specify a date or after combo box
occurrences again NVDA doesn't see this
registration required checkbox, again not shown by NVDA. After that is
meeting ID and security options, which NVDA reads fine.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
Typically, what I will do is schedule the meeting, but when Outlook
opens my calendar, I just close it without saving that invite. If the
meeting is only one time, the date and time will be in the text of the
invite, but from what you guys are telling me and what I've seen, that
may only be the case if Zoom is authenticated with Google Calendar.
I'll have to play around with Zoom a bit more and see if I can see
upcoming one time meetings scheduled for future dates, and if that is
the case, I'll have to call her and see if she sees the meeting in
question when she opens Zoom. I'll report back either later today or
tomorrow.

On 5/30/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Yep they are sure there. I had a calendar invite when I had the free
account option a while ago, maybe that has changed now?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has to
be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface, as
in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web
interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how often
it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like
schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always
speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update
what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by
default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA
announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and
down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that the
first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again and
you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You still
can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA should
speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab
and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked.
Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar can
schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can also
link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can choose
if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and look
for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on
the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook
calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open asking
you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this
information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the time,
the length and then you have a drop down list where you can choose if
the meeting should occur once, every day, every week, every month,
every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What the
invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....) You can
choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie

























Re: TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Thanks by your words!

1 - I am going to check, but I think if you make changes and save them or have NVDA to save changes on exit they are preservved...


2 - The images folder is cleaned each time you start an OCR process...



Or if the files are stored anywhere in GitHub...3 - I have to check if I still have space on server to store more data...


Rui Fontes



Às 01:59 de 31/05/2022, nvdainth@... escreveu:

Hi Rui Fontes

I have try your add-on. found that it can work well. But there are some suggestions + some bugs I'd like to inform you about.

1. buck it's cann't remember the Config value
when restart NVDA your add-on config value always reset to default

2. I find that you use folder images as cache for add-on functionality.
This would be nice if the folder was cleaned regularly. for the privacy of user data

3. If possible, I find that tessdata makes the add-on large. and for most users They may only need to use a few languages. This means that not all language options are required.
So is it possible? If the add-on has a language option for the user to choose and then download and install it. Without including all language tessdata files in the add-on's installer.

Thank you for your development It is of great benefit to the community.


Re: TesseractOCR add-on

nvdainth@...
 

Hi Rui Fontes

I have try your add-on. found that it can work well. But there are some suggestions + some bugs I'd like to inform you about.

1. buck it's cann't remember the Config value
when restart NVDA your add-on config value always reset to default

2. I find that you use folder images as cache for add-on functionality.
This would be nice if the folder was cleaned regularly. for the privacy of user data

3. If possible, I find that tessdata makes the add-on large. and for most users They may only need to use a few languages. This means that not all language options are required.
So is it possible? If the add-on has a language option for the user to choose and then download and install it. Without including all language tessdata files in the add-on's installer.

Thank you for your development It is of great benefit to the community.


In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

A bumper In-Process this week! Featuring NVDA 2022.1, NVDA Satisfaction Survey 2022, an update to the NVDA Certified Expert exam, plus thanks to Level Access & WebAIM for their State of Digital Accessibility donation, and a shoutout to GitHub's blog.


Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

For images in mails or in other type of windows you must use the NVDA OCR feature or NAO...

TesseractOCR only do OCR to image files, PDF, JPG, TIFF and so on, or to a paper document through a scanner...


Rui Fontes


Às 01:04 de 31/05/2022, Dan Beaver escreveu:

I tried it and couldn't get it to work for my needs.  I receive an email whenever I have class one mail coming.  If there is class one mail coming to my mailbox then the email includes images of scans of those mail items.  They are included in the email and not attached.


Using the Windows OCR mechanism it reads what it can from those images.  Using this mechanism it says it is an unsupported format or something to that effect.


Any idea why it won't read these images?


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 5/30/2022 7:57 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

Comparing with NAO, it have the following differences:

1 - Use of Tesseract OCR instead of Windows OCR, and for me it is better...;
2 - Different exibition of results, TXT instead of a specific interface;
3 - TesseractOCR do not make OCR to the screen;
4 - TesseractOCR can make OCR from a paper document through a WIA compatible scanner.

It is a large add-on due to the need of the files needed to recognize all the languages supported...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 00:50 de 31/05/2022, Pranav Lal escreveu:
Hi Rui,

1. Does tesseract have any advantages over the windows built-in OCR?
2. How is this add-on different from the now add-on?

Pranav












Re: TesseractOCR add-on

Dan Beaver
 

I tried it and couldn't get it to work for my needs.  I receive an email whenever I have class one mail coming.  If there is class one mail coming to my mailbox then the email includes images of scans of those mail items.  They are included in the email and not attached.


Using the Windows OCR mechanism it reads what it can from those images.  Using this mechanism it says it is an unsupported format or something to that effect.


Any idea why it won't read these images?


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
On 5/30/2022 7:57 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!

Comparing with NAO, it have the following differences:

1 - Use of Tesseract OCR instead of Windows OCR, and for me it is better...;
2 - Different exibition of results, TXT instead of a specific interface;
3 - TesseractOCR do not make OCR to the screen;
4 - TesseractOCR can make OCR from a paper document through a WIA compatible scanner.

It is a large add-on due to the need of the files needed to recognize all the languages supported...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 00:50 de 31/05/2022, Pranav Lal escreveu:
Hi Rui,

1. Does tesseract have any advantages over the windows built-in OCR?
2. How is this add-on different from the now add-on?

Pranav












Re: TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Comparing with NAO, it have the following differences:

1 - Use of Tesseract OCR instead of Windows OCR, and for me it is better...;
2 - Different exibition of results, TXT instead of a specific interface;
3 - TesseractOCR do not make OCR to the screen;
4 - TesseractOCR can make OCR from a paper document through a WIA compatible scanner.

It is a large add-on due to the need of the files needed to recognize all the languages supported...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 00:50 de 31/05/2022, Pranav Lal escreveu:

Hi Rui,

1. Does tesseract have any advantages over the windows built-in OCR?
2. How is this add-on different from the now add-on?

Pranav





Re: TesseractOCR add-on

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Rui,

1. Does tesseract have any advantages over the windows built-in OCR?
2. How is this add-on different from the now add-on?

Pranav


TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Released version 2022.05 of TesseractOCR, as first public version...


• Authors: Rui Fontes rui.fontes@... and Angelo Abrantes ampa4374@...
• Updated in 28/05/2022

• Download stable version:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.05/tesseractOCR-2022.05.nvda-addon

• Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and beyond


*** Informations

This add-on uses the free and open source Tesseract OCR engine, to perform optical character recognition on an image file, PDF, JPG, TIF or other, without the need to open it.

It also can scan and recognize a paper document through a WIA compatible scanner.

In the Preferences of NVDA, it is created a cathegory, TesseractOCR, where you can set the language to be used on the recognition and the type of documents to be recognized.


*** Shortcuts

The default commands are:

Windows+Control+r - to recognize the selected document;

Windows+Control+Shift+r - to scan and recognize a document through the scanner.

Then just wait that ocr.txt opens with the recognized text.

If you want to preserve the recognized text, don't forget to save the document under another name and in another location, as all files in the temporary directory are deleted at the start of the next OCR process!

This commands can be modified in the "Input gestures" dialog in the "TesseractOCR" section.


*** Automatic update

This add-on includes an automatic update feature. The check for a new version will be executed everytime NVDA is loaded. If you want this, go to NVDA, Preferences, Options and in the add-on category check the check box.


*** Known problems

• This version only works in 64-bit Windows.
• When selecting the "Various" option in the "Documents type" combobox, the recognized text probably appear with many blank lines This is a known problem with Tesseract, and, without consumming lots of processing time, I haven't yet found any solution. But, I still haven't given up!


*** Languages supported

The supported languages in this version are: Afrikans Amharik Arabic Bulgarian Burnese Catalan/Valencian Chinese simplified Chinese traditional Croatian Czech Dannish Deutch Dutch English Finnish French Galician Georgian Greek Hebrew Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Kannada Kirghiz Korean Lativia Lituanian Macedonian Nepali Norwegian Panjabi Persian Polish Portuguese Romanian/Moldave Russian Serbian (Latin) Slovak) Slovenian) Spanis Swedish Tamil Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Vietnamese


*** Image types supported

This add-on supports the following types of files: PDF jpg tif png bmp pnm pbm pgm jp2 gif jfif jpeg tiff spix webp


Best regards,

NVDA portuguese team


NVDARecorder

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Released version 2022.05 of NVDARecorder to be compatible with NVDA 2022.1...

Direct download:

https://github.com/ruifontes/NVDARecorder/releases/download/2022.05/NVDARecorder-2022.05.nvda-addon


Best regards,

NVDA portuguese team


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Typically, what I will do is schedule the meeting, but when Outlook
opens my calendar, I just close it without saving that invite. If the
meeting is only one time, the date and time will be in the text of the
invite, but from what you guys are telling me and what I've seen, that
may only be the case if Zoom is authenticated with Google Calendar.
I'll have to play around with Zoom a bit more and see if I can see
upcoming one time meetings scheduled for future dates, and if that is
the case, I'll have to call her and see if she sees the meeting in
question when she opens Zoom. I'll report back either later today or
tomorrow.

On 5/30/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Yep they are sure there. I had a calendar invite when I had the free
account option a while ago, maybe that has changed now?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has to
be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface, as
in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web
interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how often
it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like
schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always
speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update
what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by
default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA
announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and
down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that the
first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again and
you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You still
can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA should
speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab
and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked.
Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar can
schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can also
link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can choose
if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and look
for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on
the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook
calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open asking
you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this
information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the time,
the length and then you have a drop down list where you can choose if
the meeting should occur once, every day, every week, every month,
every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What the
invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....) You can
choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie





















Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep they are sure there. I had a calendar invite when I had the free account option a while ago, maybe that has changed now?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has to
be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface, as
in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how often
it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like
schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always
speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update
what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by
default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA
announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and
down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that the
first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again and
you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You still
can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA should
speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab
and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked.
Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar can
schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can also
link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can choose
if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and look
for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on
the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook
calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open asking
you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this
information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the time,
the length and then you have a drop down list where you can choose if
the meeting should occur once, every day, every week, every month,
every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What the
invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....) You can
choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie











Re: Question about best configuration of windows 10/11 for nvda.

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh nice, I’ll have to try this at some point. That sounds very convenient. Coolio.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about best configuration of windows 10/11 for nvda.

 

Another setting that I prefer to have enabled is found under File Explorer options in the View tab. In the tree view is an option titled “show popup descriptions for folder and desktop items.” If this is enabled and if NVDA is configured to report tool tips you’ll hear file size information when you are pointing to a drive or folder.

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about best configuration of windows 10/11 for nvda.

 

On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:28 AM, Gene wrote:

If you are asking about configuring Windows itself, aside from setting Windows to show known file types, I am unaware of other changes that might make a difference. 

-
I'm of the same mind.  I've never done anything much to Windows 10 or 11 that I didn't do with earlier versions of Windows.  One of those things was going into Control Panel, File Explorer Options,  View Tab and unchecking the checkbox for Hide extensions for known file types.  I also choose to activate the radio button for Show hidden files, folders, and drives because in my line of work I often need to reference things that are generally "under the hood."

NVDA does not seem to have the slightest issue with either Windows 10 or 11 in the "straight out of the box" state for either one.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them.
     ~ Ursula LeGuin, The Dispossessed


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has to
be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface, as
in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how often it
will
happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like schedule a
new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always speak
what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update what NVDA
pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by default, by
typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays
today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA announces, "month and
something like rotating button". Use up and down arrows in order to be
sure
that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that the
first
zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again and you will
hear
the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You still can use up and
down
arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA should speak what you are
modifying
with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked. Check
it
with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar can
schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can also link
to
google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can choose if
the
meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and look for
your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on the
zoom
page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook calendar
.ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open asking you
to
connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this information
with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the time, the
length and then you have a drop down list where you can choose if the
meeting should occur once, every day, every week, every month, every
year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What the
invited
people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....)
You can choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie











Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has to
be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface, as
in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how often it will
happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like schedule a
new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always speak
what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update what NVDA
pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom displays
today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA announces, "month and
something like rotating button". Use up and down arrows in order to be sure
that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that the first
zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again and you will hear
the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You still can use up and down
arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA should speak what you are modifying
with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should last. One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows. NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked. Check it
with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar can
schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can also link to
google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can choose if the
meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and look for
your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on the zoom
page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook calendar
.ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open asking you to
connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this information
with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the time, the
length and then you have a drop down list where you can choose if the
meeting should occur once, every day, every week, every month, every
year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What the invited
people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....)
You can choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie






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