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larry k <sirlaurence.larry@...>
 

is there an addon for remote support and an add on for updating addons?
using v22.1
 
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Re: do same as routing curser

Chris Smart
 

Glenn, perhaps this article will help you transition.

https://gttprogram.blog/2018/12/20/switching-from-jaws-to-nvda-nvaccess-nvda-community-wiki-%C2%B7-github/

 

But, the User Guide exists too, and easy to navigate and read.

 


Re: do same as routing curser

Chris Smart
 

The action is similar but the nomenclature is different, as with any
application.

Try NVDA+Numpad Slash to move the mouse pointer to the current navigator
object. Then try Numpad Slash on its own to emulate a left mouse click.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: May 31, 2022 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] do same as routing curser

Hi,
I have a radio programming program that I have to select the com port that
the radio is able to be accessed to.
With Jaws and NVDA, when I tab in the window, it only goes to enter and
cancel, but insert B reads com ports of which I can check, one of available
ports.
With Jaws, I can route Jaws to PC and find the port I want, and either do a
left mouse click with the number pad or I can at the point I'm on the port I
want, route PC to Jaws, either way will select the port with a check.
I cannot figure out how to do this with NVDA.
I do insert num 7 and it says review mode, and using insert minus or insert
5 I can move around to different windows, but the closest I get is where it
says com select window, but the reading and arrow keys and tab only go to
enter and cancel.
If NVDA is able to do stuff like this, it isn't intuitive, or there needs to
better information on this.
I know lots of people for whom this is exactly why they don't use NVDA.
Thanks for any assistance with this.

Glenn


Re: do same as routing curser

Gene
 

Probably using object navigation would work.  I did a tutorial on object navigation.  Brian is hosting it at this link:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HZ7oqhtmwWXGVvAivYL_0pi9AcHc3WjZ

I'll describe what has a good chance of working but depending on how you use your computer, you may find it well worth your while to learn how to use object navigation.

For now, be in object navigation mode, issue the command numpad insert numpad 1 until you hear no previous navigation mode, or something similar.
Then try moving with numpad insert numpad 4 to move back by object and numpad insert numpad 6 to move forward.  You have a good chance of finding what you want that way.  When you are on the item you want to activate, use the command numpad insert numpad enter. Numpad enter is the long key farthest down on the right most column of the numpad.

I am giving desktop keyboard commands.  I don't know the laptop commands.

Gene
On 5/31/2022 1:16 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Hi,
I have a radio programming program that I have to select the com port that 
the radio is able to be accessed to.
With Jaws and NVDA, when I tab in the window, it only goes to enter and 
cancel, but insert B reads com ports of which I can check, one of available 
ports.
With Jaws, I can route Jaws to PC and find the port I want, and either do a 
left mouse click with the number pad or I can at the point I'm on the port I 
want, route PC to Jaws, either way will select the port with a check.
I cannot figure out how to do this with NVDA.
I do insert num 7 and it says review mode, and using insert minus or insert 
5 I can move around to different windows, but the closest I get is where it 
says
com select window, but the reading and arrow keys and tab only go to enter 
and cancel.
If NVDA is able to do stuff like this, it isn't intuitive, or there needs to 
better information on this.
I know lots of people for whom this is exactly why they don't use NVDA.
Thanks for any assistance with this.

Glenn 








Re: NVDARecorder

George McCoy
 

What does this add-on do?

On 5/30/2022 2:56 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


Released version 2022.05 of NVDARecorder to be compatible with NVDA 2022.1...

Direct download:

https://github.com/ruifontes/NVDARecorder/releases/download/2022.05/NVDARecorder-2022.05.nvda-addon


Best regards,

NVDA portuguese team






do same as routing curser

K0LNY
 

Hi,
I have a radio programming program that I have to select the com port that
the radio is able to be accessed to.
With Jaws and NVDA, when I tab in the window, it only goes to enter and
cancel, but insert B reads com ports of which I can check, one of available
ports.
With Jaws, I can route Jaws to PC and find the port I want, and either do a
left mouse click with the number pad or I can at the point I'm on the port I
want, route PC to Jaws, either way will select the port with a check.
I cannot figure out how to do this with NVDA.
I do insert num 7 and it says review mode, and using insert minus or insert
5 I can move around to different windows, but the closest I get is where it
says
com select window, but the reading and arrow keys and tab only go to enter
and cancel.
If NVDA is able to do stuff like this, it isn't intuitive, or there needs to
better information on this.
I know lots of people for whom this is exactly why they don't use NVDA.
Thanks for any assistance with this.

Glenn


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Luke, to answer your question, my friend and I were talking about this
and I brought it up. I downloaded and installed the addon, while
waiting for her to send me what she saw with JAWS, and it didn't make
any difference.
Sarah, so you're saying you saw all of what JAWS shows within Zoom
using NVDA? I've never seen it, whether on a free or paid account,
across two computers. I do see the radio buttons that ask what
calendar I wish to use, and I presume that if I didn't discard the
invite once Outlook opened, I'd be able to schedule it as a recurring
meeting with the parameters I want, but that only adds it to my
Outlook calendar. If I use the mobile app on my phone, something
similar happens, as the dates I want are added to my phone's calendar,
but Zoom still shows as a recurring meeting meeting anytime. With this
setup, the meeting invite that is copied to the clipboard and is what
I usually send out doesn't show any date or time information, which
basically puts me in the same situation I'm in now where I have to
remember to add the date and time information in manually.

On 5/31/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Odd, I remember seeing this, but at the time I Had a paid account. Maybe
that's the difference?
Update: I see all of that, so maybe something corrupted in your zoom or copy
of nvda. Run the reg tool in nvda and see if that helps. I even see
"schedule from outlook" and "schedule from google. Also go to your profile
in zoom and check for updates.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 9:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

The following is from my friend with my comments. She is running JAWS and
this is what she sees as she tabs through the schedule meeting dialog.
Perhaps does a ticket need to be put in for this?
Meeting Title
Add description link I usually tab past, NVDA doesn't even see this Choose
date Select start time Select start time unit Select duration hours minutes
Select time zone, again NVDA completely skips over Recurring check box
Select recurrence type radio button
first option a specified interval
Second option something like On and then combo boxes for first..last
and then for day of the week. NVDA sees none of this.
end date another Radio button either specify a date or after combo box
occurrences again NVDA doesn't see this registration required checkbox,
again not shown by NVDA. After that is meeting ID and security options,
which NVDA reads fine.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
Typically, what I will do is schedule the meeting, but when Outlook
opens my calendar, I just close it without saving that invite. If the
meeting is only one time, the date and time will be in the text of the
invite, but from what you guys are telling me and what I've seen, that
may only be the case if Zoom is authenticated with Google Calendar.
I'll have to play around with Zoom a bit more and see if I can see
upcoming one time meetings scheduled for future dates, and if that is
the case, I'll have to call her and see if she sees the meeting in
question when she opens Zoom. I'll report back either later today or
tomorrow.

On 5/30/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Yep they are sure there. I had a calendar invite when I had the free
account option a while ago, maybe that has changed now?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io
<cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has
to be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web interface,
as in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually a link to a
calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web
interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how
often it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like
schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always
speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update
what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by
default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA
announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and
down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that
the first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again
and you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You
still can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA
should speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should
last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab
and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked.
Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar
can schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can
also link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can
choose if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and
look for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting on
the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook
calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open
asking you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this
information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the
time, the length and then you have a drop down list where you can
choose if the meeting should occur once, every day, every week,
every month, every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What
the invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....) You
can choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie



































Re: OBS Or Alternative Software?

Sarah k Alawami
 

You cannot stream your radio station using obs. Look into station playlist
studio instead. Obs is for video and audio. And I use it all the time, not
easy to use but fun.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Armando L. Vias
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 10:53 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OBS Or Alternative Software?
Importance: High

Hello everyone,

I am playing around with OBS Studio, and it is very confusing to me. Does
anyone know how to use OBS? I am trying to connect to stream my radio
station. If OBS is not the right solution, what is the right software? I am
trying to stream to MixCloud. I got the 30-day free trial of MixCloud Pro.

If you have any questions, please let me know. I am using Windows 10 with
NVDA.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Armando VIas


OBS Or Alternative Software?

Armando L. Vias <armando@...>
 

Hello everyone,

I am playing around with OBS Studio, and it is very confusing to me. Does anyone know how to use OBS? I am trying to connect to stream my radio station. If OBS is not the right solution, what is the right software? I am trying to stream to MixCloud. I got the 30-day free trial of MixCloud Pro.

If you have any questions, please let me know. I am using Windows 10 with NVDA.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Armando VIas


Re: TesseractOCR add-on

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Rui,

I hear you and thanks for the comparison.

Pranav


Re: WordPress website creation

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Thanks I am using NVDA to re-create our Outer Banks Repeater Website.
I figured that there might be some tools, or add-ins, that would make things a little easier with NVDA
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WordPress website creation

Angelo, you can do it via your browser of choice or via the WordPress
app. My only experience w/the latter is thru the App store, though I
suspect it's equally accessible via Android/Google Play.

My recommendation is that for now you use the classic editor rather
than the block editor. Accessibility in the latter has improved
markedly. but, IMO, is still a bit awkward. I happen to be a huge fan
of Markdown, for hwich you can use Jetpack or a Gutenberg markdown
block. But this is beginning to stray from NVDA. Perhaps check my
signature for a resource that might interest you.

73.

On 5/31/22, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@...> wrote:
What is the best interface for a blind person to create a WordPress
website?
Thanks







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Re: WordPress website creation

Jackie
 

Angelo, you can do it via your browser of choice or via the WordPress
app. My only experience w/the latter is thru the App store, though I
suspect it's equally accessible via Android/Google Play.

My recommendation is that for now you use the classic editor rather
than the block editor. Accessibility in the latter has improved
markedly. but, IMO, is still a bit awkward. I happen to be a huge fan
of Markdown, for hwich you can use Jetpack or a Gutenberg markdown
block. But this is beginning to stray from NVDA. Perhaps check my
signature for a resource that might interest you.

73.

On 5/31/22, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@...> wrote:
What is the best interface for a blind person to create a WordPress
website?
Thanks






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Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

The two primary methods of providing feedback to Microsoft, about anything, are the Feedback Hub and, for users of Assistive Technology, and the US Microsoft & Windows Accessibility Support Webpage or UK Microsoft & Windows Accessibility Support Webpage.

Talking to Accessibility Support representatives, regardless of how you decide to reach out to them, is the most direct way to ensure a human has heard about the issue and, if you're lucky, will note this in the call notes and forward same to someone who may be able to take action on these.
--

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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes. Simply hit windows plus f and choose the relevant category for which the feedback should be sent.  You can then record what happens and send it to them, or send a screen cap of the window all from within the app.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell James
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

Thanks for the heads up on this one!

 

Is there some way to get this input to MS for ease of use improvement?

 

Russ

 

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:52 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Kostadin,

Thanks very much.  Viable workarounds are always welcome.  I'll be curious to see if others have come up with more of these.
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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Has feedback already been sent to ms about this? This seems like a gross oversite on their part. I don’t use QA, so can’t really be of much help.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

Hello,

Here is how I solved the problem. While the focus was on the whole QuickAssist window, I've used NVDA's command to move the mouse cursor to the currently focused object (which in this case should be the whole QuickAssist window) and them simulated a single left mouse click. That moved the focus inside the QuickAssist window/document. This has to be done each time the QuickAssist program is launched, but it is still better than nothing.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 31.5.2022 г. в 18:24, Brian Vogel написа:

For those of you that use Quick Assist and have done so with the original version in recent days, you will get a notice that a new version is now available from the Microsoft Store and that encourages you to download it.  If you do then "the fun begins," in several respects:
1. You still have the old version as well as the new version on your machine, and the keyboard shortcut to invoke Quick Assist still invokes the old version.
2.  If you invoke the old version after the new is installed, the initial dialog will ask you if you wish to open the new version, and that's presented as a link near the bottom of the initial dialog.
3.  For me, anyway, the initial dialog of the new Quick Assist is inaccessible, but in a weird way, about which more, below.

When the initial dialog is opened, NVDA has focus on the entire dialog and NVDA is in focus mode.  I cannot seem to force a change to browse mode, and other than the announcement that I am in the Quick Assist window/dialog, I get absolutlely no other information.  I cannot figure out, for the life of me how to get out of browse mode and into the "guts of the dialog."

I can do this "the sighted way" and click on the text at the very start and, after doing so, everything is accessible in exactly the way I'd expect.  But I'm having no success either with conventional commands or object navigation in making this transition to the actual dialog content occur.

I don't need any assistance with Quick Assist itself, but am wondering if anyone has had any success with getting into the initial dialog where you either request assistance by entering a code your assistant gives you or set yourself as the assistant and get that code to provide to the person you're assisting.
--

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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

Russell James
 

Thanks for the heads up on this one!

Is there some way to get this input to MS for ease of use improvement?

Russ


On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:52 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Kostadin,

Thanks very much.  Viable workarounds are always welcome.  I'll be curious to see if others have come up with more of these.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


WordPress website creation

Angelo Sonnesso
 

What is the best interface for a blind person to create a WordPress website?
Thanks


Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

Kostadin,

Thanks very much.  Viable workarounds are always welcome.  I'll be curious to see if others have come up with more of these.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

Hello,

Here is how I solved the problem. While the focus was on the whole QuickAssist window, I've used NVDA's command to move the mouse cursor to the currently focused object (which in this case should be the whole QuickAssist window) and them simulated a single left mouse click. That moved the focus inside the QuickAssist window/document. This has to be done each time the QuickAssist program is launched, but it is still better than nothing.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 31.5.2022 г. в 18:24, Brian Vogel написа:

For those of you that use Quick Assist and have done so with the original version in recent days, you will get a notice that a new version is now available from the Microsoft Store and that encourages you to download it.  If you do then "the fun begins," in several respects:
1. You still have the old version as well as the new version on your machine, and the keyboard shortcut to invoke Quick Assist still invokes the old version.
2.  If you invoke the old version after the new is installed, the initial dialog will ask you if you wish to open the new version, and that's presented as a link near the bottom of the initial dialog.
3.  For me, anyway, the initial dialog of the new Quick Assist is inaccessible, but in a weird way, about which more, below.

When the initial dialog is opened, NVDA has focus on the entire dialog and NVDA is in focus mode.  I cannot seem to force a change to browse mode, and other than the announcement that I am in the Quick Assist window/dialog, I get absolutlely no other information.  I cannot figure out, for the life of me how to get out of browse mode and into the "guts of the dialog."

I can do this "the sighted way" and click on the text at the very start and, after doing so, everything is accessible in exactly the way I'd expect.  But I'm having no success either with conventional commands or object navigation in making this transition to the actual dialog content occur.

I don't need any assistance with Quick Assist itself, but am wondering if anyone has had any success with getting into the initial dialog where you either request assistance by entering a code your assistant gives you or set yourself as the assistant and get that code to provide to the person you're assisting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


The new Microsoft Store version of Quick Assist - Access with NVDA

 

For those of you that use Quick Assist and have done so with the original version in recent days, you will get a notice that a new version is now available from the Microsoft Store and that encourages you to download it.  If you do then "the fun begins," in several respects:
1. You still have the old version as well as the new version on your machine, and the keyboard shortcut to invoke Quick Assist still invokes the old version.
2.  If you invoke the old version after the new is installed, the initial dialog will ask you if you wish to open the new version, and that's presented as a link near the bottom of the initial dialog.
3.  For me, anyway, the initial dialog of the new Quick Assist is inaccessible, but in a weird way, about which more, below.

When the initial dialog is opened, NVDA has focus on the entire dialog and NVDA is in focus mode.  I cannot seem to force a change to browse mode, and other than the announcement that I am in the Quick Assist window/dialog, I get absolutlely no other information.  I cannot figure out, for the life of me how to get out of browse mode and into the "guts of the dialog."

I can do this "the sighted way" and click on the text at the very start and, after doing so, everything is accessible in exactly the way I'd expect.  But I'm having no success either with conventional commands or object navigation in making this transition to the actual dialog content occur.

I don't need any assistance with Quick Assist itself, but am wondering if anyone has had any success with getting into the initial dialog where you either request assistance by entering a code your assistant gives you or set yourself as the assistant and get that code to provide to the person you're assisting.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

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