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Re: NVDA failed to install

Howard Traxler
 

When I do  windows plus R and at the run prompt, type winver, the answer is version 1803 and build 17134 something.  I've tried to find how to update windows but can't find it.  It wants to update my office 2003; and I know there's no update for that; but that's all it shows.  There must be a way to do this?
Howard

On 6/1/2022 1:39 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Howard,

What version of windows are you using? If it's a much older version, then you'd have to use a much older version of NVDA.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:36 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA failed to install

Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2. Now tried to install the latest; 22.1. Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up. I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it. Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone? Thanks.
Howard










Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

I should have said use alt y for yes.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:11 PM, Gene wrote:

You were using the talking installer at that time.  That is running as though it were a portable version of NVDA.  When UAC comes up, portable NVDA won't read the message.  It may say something like secure desktop.  Answer y because according to your description, the UAC prompt has come up.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:02 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
I didn't hear anything about UAC nor a yes or no question.  Maybe an alt y at the time of lockup will do it.  I'll give it a try.

Thanks.
Howard

On 6/1/2022 1:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Try answering yes when UAC comes up.  Escape only closes UAC and doesn't allow the action it is asking about.  Alt y when the UAC prompt comes up and you want to answer yes.  Escape or alt n when you want to answer no.

I think it is a very bad idea to disable a security feature such as UAC when it isn't necessary.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 1:36 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2.  Now tried to install the latest; 22.1.  Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up.  I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it.  Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone?  Thanks.
Howard





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Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

You were using the talking installer at that time.  That is running as though it were a portable version of NVDA.  When UAC comes up, portable NVDA won't read the message.  It may say something like secure desktop.  Answer y because according to your description, the UAC prompt has come up.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:02 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

I didn't hear anything about UAC nor a yes or no question.  Maybe an alt y at the time of lockup will do it.  I'll give it a try.

Thanks.
Howard

On 6/1/2022 1:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Try answering yes when UAC comes up.  Escape only closes UAC and doesn't allow the action it is asking about.  Alt y when the UAC prompt comes up and you want to answer yes.  Escape or alt n when you want to answer no.

I think it is a very bad idea to disable a security feature such as UAC when it isn't necessary.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 1:36 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2.  Now tried to install the latest; 22.1.  Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up.  I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it.  Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone?  Thanks.
Howard





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Re: Old versions of add-ons

Gene
 

That's good.  If that isn't well known, it should probably be publicized.

I keep old versions of add-ons I use in case they disappear.  Its nice to know they are still available.

Gene
Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory (hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer compatible with the latest version of NVDA.  When you search they tell you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1, that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

 

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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman



Re: nvda dictionary

 

Jon,

You would need to be a lot more specific about exactly the steps you're taking before anyone could venture a guess about what you're doing wrong.

See the tutorial I wrote:  Using the NVDA Dictionaries with Regular Expression Matching to Change Pronunciations (docx)

 


Even if you're not using a Regular Expression match, the steps are the same except for the radio button you'll choose if you are not doing a regular expression match.
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Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

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Re: nvda dictionary

Gene
 

You need to press the ok button and then tab to the next ok button and press that one.  When you press the first ok button, you move back into an dialog you were in when you first open the dictionary and you must activate the ok button for that dialog as well.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 1:56 PM, Jon W Parsons wrote:

                Sorry for asking a non-nvda question earlier.

But now I do have an nvda question:

I have been trying to make entries in the nvda dictionary but they do not stick.

I tried the default dictionary and then pressed “okay”

But the replacements are not spoken.

I also tried the voice dictionary with the same results.

What am I doing wrong?

 



Re: NVDA failed to install

Howard Traxler
 

I didn't hear anything about UAC nor a yes or no question.  Maybe an alt y at the time of lockup will do it.  I'll give it a try.

Thanks.
Howard

On 6/1/2022 1:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Try answering yes when UAC comes up.  Escape only closes UAC and doesn't allow the action it is asking about.  Alt y when the UAC prompt comes up and you want to answer yes.  Escape or alt n when you want to answer no.

I think it is a very bad idea to disable a security feature such as UAC when it isn't necessary.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 1:36 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2.  Now tried to install the latest; 22.1.  Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up.  I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it.  Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone?  Thanks.
Howard





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Re: Old versions of add-ons

 

To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory (hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer compatible with the latest version of NVDA.  When you search they tell you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1, that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

 

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


nvda dictionary

Jon W Parsons
 

                Sorry for asking a non-nvda question earlier.

But now I do have an nvda question:

I have been trying to make entries in the nvda dictionary but they do not stick.

I tried the default dictionary and then pressed “okay”

But the replacements are not spoken.

I also tried the voice dictionary with the same results.

What am I doing wrong?

 


Old versions of add-ons

Gene
 

All the talk about add-ons recently has prompted me to think of the following question:
Is anyone keeping a publicly accessible library of unsupported add-ons so those who want to use them with older versions of NVDA can easily find them? 

Gene


Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

Even if its Windows  servicePack1, NVDA supports it.  If you try to install aversion that your operating system is incompatible with, you will get a message telling you that. 

Gene
On 6/1/2022 1:39 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Howard,

What version of windows are you using? If it's a much older version, then you'd have to use a much older version of NVDA.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:36 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA failed to install

Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2.  Now tried to install the latest; 22.1.  Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up.  I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it.  Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone?  Thanks.
Howard













Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

Try answering yes when UAC comes up.  Escape only closes UAC and doesn't allow the action it is asking about.  Alt y when the UAC prompt comes up and you want to answer yes.  Escape or alt n when you want to answer no.

I think it is a very bad idea to disable a security feature such as UAC when it isn't necessary.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 1:36 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2.  Now tried to install the latest; 22.1.  Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up.  I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it.  Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone?  Thanks.
Howard





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Re: NVDA failed to install

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Howard,

What version of windows are you using? If it's a much older version, then you'd have to use a much older version of NVDA.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:36 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA failed to install

Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2. Now tried to install the latest; 22.1. Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up. I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it. Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone? Thanks.
Howard


NVDA failed to install

Howard Traxler
 

Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2.  Now tried to install the latest; 22.1.  Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up.  I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it.  Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone?  Thanks.
Howard


Re: scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh
 

Update, Com registration fix didn't help at all.

On 5/31/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
I've gotten auto updates from Zoom, I got one about three weeks ago.
I'll try com registration fix as well, maybe that will help. I've
never used that before. One other oddity, I tried the same thing using
Narrator and it didn't see the mentioned fields either, acted the same
as NVDA.

On 5/31/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
No, I'm seeing all of the fields as described, at least for now, until
something changes. Did you check for updates in zoom itself as it will
not
auto update.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 11:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

Luke, to answer your question, my friend and I were talking about this and
I
brought it up. I downloaded and installed the addon, while waiting for
her
to send me what she saw with JAWS, and it didn't make any difference.
Sarah, so you're saying you saw all of what JAWS shows within Zoom using
NVDA? I've never seen it, whether on a free or paid account, across two
computers. I do see the radio buttons that ask what calendar I wish to
use,
and I presume that if I didn't discard the invite once Outlook opened,
I'd
be able to schedule it as a recurring meeting with the parameters I want,
but that only adds it to my Outlook calendar. If I use the mobile app on
my
phone, something similar happens, as the dates I want are added to my
phone's calendar, but Zoom still shows as a recurring meeting meeting
anytime. With this setup, the meeting invite that is copied to the
clipboard
and is what I usually send out doesn't show any date or time information,
which basically puts me in the same situation I'm in now where I have to
remember to add the date and time information in manually.

On 5/31/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Odd, I remember seeing this, but at the time I Had a paid account.
Maybe that's the difference?
Update: I see all of that, so maybe something corrupted in your zoom
or copy of nvda. Run the reg tool in nvda and see if that helps. I
even see "schedule from outlook" and "schedule from google. Also go to
your profile in zoom and check for updates.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 9:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

The following is from my friend with my comments. She is running JAWS
and this is what she sees as she tabs through the schedule meeting
dialog.
Perhaps does a ticket need to be put in for this?
Meeting Title
Add description link I usually tab past, NVDA doesn't even see this
Choose date Select start time Select start time unit Select duration
hours minutes Select time zone, again NVDA completely skips over
Recurring check box Select recurrence type radio button
first option a specified interval
Second option something like On and then combo boxes for
first..last and then for day of the week. NVDA sees none of this.
end date another Radio button either specify a date or after combo box
occurrences again NVDA doesn't see this registration required
checkbox, again not shown by NVDA. After that is meeting ID and
security options, which NVDA reads fine.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io
<cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
Typically, what I will do is schedule the meeting, but when Outlook
opens my calendar, I just close it without saving that invite. If the
meeting is only one time, the date and time will be in the text of
the invite, but from what you guys are telling me and what I've seen,
that may only be the case if Zoom is authenticated with Google
Calendar.
I'll have to play around with Zoom a bit more and see if I can see
upcoming one time meetings scheduled for future dates, and if that is
the case, I'll have to call her and see if she sees the meeting in
question when she opens Zoom. I'll report back either later today or
tomorrow.

On 5/30/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Yep they are sure there. I had a calendar invite when I had the
free account option a while ago, maybe that has changed now?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] scheduling a recurring Zoom meeting with NVDA

I should say, never seen in my own meetings before.

On 5/30/22, Bob Cavanaugh via groups.io
<cavbob1993@...>
wrote:
So, there's no way to do it within Zoom itself, the scheduling has
to be done with your calendar of choice? I'll try the web
interface, as in the invite that my friend sends, there is usually
a link to a calendar invite, which I've never seen before.

On 5/30/22, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Bob and all,
You have two ways of scheduling a zoom meeting.
Either you use the zoom desktop application or you use the web
interface.
1. With the zoom app
You will be able to scheduling a recurring meeting but not how
often it will happen.
1. In the first tab of zoom, tab until you hear something like
schedule a new meeting.
2. Hit enter.
3. You will have to type the meeting subject. NVDA does not always
speak what you type. So you should use tab and shift+tab to update
what NVDA pronounces. May be you should select what is proposed by
default, by typing
ctrl+a, and write your own subject.
4. When you tab, you can choose the meeting date. By default, Zoom
displays today's date and time. Tab to reach the month. NVDA
announces, "month and something like rotating button". Use up and
down arrows in order to be sure that the month you want is selected.
5. Use tab again and choose the day you want with up and down
arrows.
6. When you tab again, you can select the year.
7. When tabbing again you can reach the time you wish. Note that
the first zone is the actual time, you cannot modify it. Tab again
and you will hear the hours and with another tab, the minutes. You
still can use up and down arrows to select hours and minutes. NVDA
should speak what you are modifying with up and down arrows.
8. When tabbing again, you can select how long the meeting should
last.
One
hour, for example. You still can modify this with up and down
arrows.
NVDA
does not always update what is changing so that you should use tab
and
shift+tab to be sure you have selected the right length.
9. Tab again until you hear recurring meeting, checkbox unchecked.
Check it with the space bar.
You will hear an alert that you should ensure that your calendar
can schedule such a meeting. Mine is linked to Outlook but you can
also link to google or any other calendar.
In my case, Outlook asked me to confirm the meeting and I can
choose if the meeting should occur every week, or month.
2. When using zoom in a browser
When you connect to Zoom, you can look for the meetings' tab and
look for your next meeting.
You also have a link to schedule a new meeting.
If you have saved it in the zoom app, you will find this meeting
on the zoom page.
You will have a heading 3 with a link to start the meeting.
You can then read the subject of the meeting then the time.
Under this you can read something like recurring.
After that you have "add to" and links to Google agenda, Outlook
calendar .ics, or yahoo calendar.
When you click on google, for example, a new window will open
asking you to connect to your Google account.
Google asks to confirm that you accept that zoom shares this
information with google.
Select "continue".
You will then find a form with your meeting, you can select the
time, the length and then you have a drop down list where you can
choose if the meeting should occur once, every day, every week,
every month, every year....
Then you can select who you want to invite to this meeting. What
the invited people may do (modify meeting, invite others ....) You
can choose when sending the notification and how (by e-mail for
example)

Then you have to go back to find the button save and you have your
meeting.
I hope this can help.
Otherwise do not hesitate to ask.
Best
Sylvie

















































Re: Audible

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Robert,

I can confirm this. You can click on the advance search button and get a search field, but you can also move to the text that says: 'submit search,' press NVDA + space bar to go into focus mode, back tab once and then type in your search string. A bit clumsy, but id does wo4rk.

On 6/1/2022 2:54 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
For some reason NVDA is not recognizing the search field or any other edit fields on the Audible site. I cannot press 'e' or 'f' to get to it.




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Re: nvda suddenly began announcing all input keystrokes

Sarah k Alawami
 

There is actually an easier way.  It is nvda plus numrow 4.  This will act as a toggle per the keyboard hint.  This on laptop mode, dun no the desk top toggle.  Sorry about that.  Hopefully a quick glance at the QS will guide you in the right direction re the desktop command.

 

 

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Check out both my story and my journey as I learn to fly blind.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda suddenly began announcing all input keystrokes

 

You are talking evidently, about command keys, such as control, enter, down arrow, etc.  To change this behavior, open the keyboard dialog, control NVDA k, and tab around.
You will get to speak command keys.  It's a check box.  Press the space bar to uncheck it. 
Press enter and the dialog will close.  The setting is changed and if you are using default settings in this respect, when you shut down NVDA or close Windows, the setting will be permanently saved.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 8:32 AM, Brian Tew wrote:

It just began doing this today June 1. Input help is off; I cycled it to be sure.
Any ideas? Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: nvda suddenly began announcing all input keystrokes

Gene
 

You are talking evidently, about command keys, such as control, enter, down arrow, etc.  To change this behavior, open the keyboard dialog, control NVDA k, and tab around.
You will get to speak command keys.  It's a check box.  Press the space bar to uncheck it. 
Press enter and the dialog will close.  The setting is changed and if you are using default settings in this respect, when you shut down NVDA or close Windows, the setting will be permanently saved.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 8:32 AM, Brian Tew wrote:

It just began doing this today June 1. Input help is off; I cycled it to be sure.
Any ideas? Thanks.






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Re: Audible

JinYoun
 

Hi I feel like this issue started with the latest NVDA update... I just tested with narrator and jaws and both of them took me to the edit field by pressing the letter e.
Actually, I think I'm on the last update before the latest one because of addon compatibility issues... 
Thanks 


Re: nvda suddenly began announcing all input keystrokes

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you think it is a good idea, look for and / or post an issue on their
github then mark it with a thumbs up to say you want it sooner than later.
The more that mark your submission with the thumbs up or down reaction, ,
the more they can consider for a future release and sooner at that. I like
the idea myself, but I'm not sure if that is doable at present.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda suddenly began announcing all input keystrokes

Speaking of NVDA+2 and NVDA+3, I have always wondered why those toggles are
assigned to separate keys. Combining them, as Jaws does, would free up
NVDA+3 for something else.

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