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Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Luciano,

From what you describe, it sounds like the issue is occuring when the spreadsheet tries to update itself.  I have a large spreadsheet which does that and basically it does freeze Excel while it is calculating, so you can't do anything - and that happens even if NVDA is not running.  I appreciate you said your spreadsheet was not so large, so I'm not sure, although it does sound basically the same.

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 12:13 AM Luciano de Souza <lucsouza1975@...> wrote:

Hello all,

When editing cells in Microsoft Excel, I’m facing a very serious slowness.

I type the content, I press “enter” and NVDA freezes.

Ten seconds later, the voice returns to normality.

It’s not a particular heavy worksheet, so the performance should be good.

Restarting NVDA in debug mode, I found a message saying that the gainFocus event failed.

The problems occurs in two machines:

·         The first one with Windows 10, Office 2019 e NVDA 2022-1;

·         The second one with Windows 10, Office 365 e NVDA 2022-1.

In both machine, I have tested also with NVDA 2020-3 with the same bad results.

I also ran the register fixer tool offered by NVDA.

The installed version, there’s no addons or customization in its settings.

Both machines have good performance when executing other tasks.

In Excel, I turned off the automatic calculation to attenuate the problem.

In fact, disabled the automatic calculation, the performance becomes adequate.

However, pressing F9 to calculate, the screen reader freezes again.

As mentioned, the file doesn’t have heavy formulas or a large amount of data.

I could not understand what is succeeding, so I ask you for a help.

I wish this message find everyone good and I thank for staying here.

 

Best regards,

Luciano de Souza



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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA failed to install

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


yes when you press the windows key it brings up the start menu and will default to the search box.


Gene nz

On 2/06/2022 9:28 am, Howard Traxler wrote:
OK Gene, when you say start menu, are you refering to what happens when I press the windows key and get a search box?  I think that's what folks are calling the start menu.

I've got a few things to try right now; so I'm fixed for a while. I'm using the media creation tool to make an thunb drive update media.  When it's done, I'll take it downstairs and see if it updates the computer.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman













Re: NVDA failed to install

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:42 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
This was his wife's computer, without NVDA on it.
-
I somehow forgot that he'd stated he'd removed an earlier version of NVDA before having tried to install the latest over it.

You're right that a screen-reader-less machine is an entirely different ball of wax.  I thought I had remembered that NVDA was still on it, and that's entirely incorrect on my part.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: NVDA failed to install

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:37 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Frankly I was trying to avoid dumping even more information on Howard's head than he needed in order to get through this particular confusion.
-
A noble goal.

That being said, there are certain elisions that sacrifice accuracy for brevity.

In all other respects, we are in complete agreement.  I have never understood why UAC prompts are considered to be something to be avoided at all costs and that are impossible for blind users to deal with.  I have had far too many clients where I kept UAC intact and after having hit an instance or two of it popping up there was zero confusion about or difficulty with it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: NVDA failed to install

Luke Davis
 

Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:10 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Either press Alt+Y, or turn on Narrator with Control+Windows+Enter, read the secure screen window, and do what it says.
-Can't you also activate the "Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens (requires administrator privileges)" button in NVDA
Settings, General to make NVDA speak when UAC comes up?
Of course he could, *if* he had NVDA installed. This was his wife's computer, without NVDA on it.
He is trying to install NVDA, that is the purpose of this thread.

He can't "use currently saved settings", because there are none. He can't get past the installing NVDA UAC prompt, because he has no speech on secure screens, because he has no screen reader installed.

He doesn't have a screen reader installed, because he has no speech on the UAC prompt that would let him install it.

It's a chicken and egg problem, as I mentioned in I believe the next paragraph.

So I and Gene suggested he either blindly press Alt+Y, or as I said, temporarily activate Narrator.

Luke


Re: NVDA failed to install

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:28 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
This is utterly baffling to me. Why in the world would you do that?
-
We're in agreement on this.  Just confirming takes a lot less effort, and if you are someone who is "in charge of installing/uninstalling" on a given machine NVDA should be configured to run on secure screens, because there are some others, too.

Turning UAC on and off is what gets called, "Going around Jake's Barn," to reach a nearby/desired destination rather than taking a straight line route to get there.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: NVDA failed to install

Luke Davis
 

Brian Vogel wrote:

-Luke,The following is hair-splitting, but I think it's important for users to understand exactly what's going on.  The vast majority of us who have a
single user on a given machine have one that has administrative privilege.  But even if you do, things that actually require that privilege to be active
will trigger UAC, because even accounts that have admin privilege are expected to grant its use consciously in more recent versions of Windows.  At one
Which is when you press Alt+Y to approve the dialog instead of having to type a password, as Gene and I both mentioned.
Frankly I was trying to avoid dumping even more information on Howard's head than he needed in order to get through this particular confusion.

UAC is not the horror to be avoided at all costs that many blind computer users seem to think. I get the impression that many of the vendors who build computers for the blind, have a tendency to disable it, along with the login screen, in the mistaken thinking that it will make life easier for the blind user (and probably result in fewer tech support calls). In fact all it does is make the user's situation more fragile, and makes them a less competent computer user in the long run.
Not to mention being far less secure.

Luke


Re: NVDA failed to install

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:10 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Either press Alt+Y, or turn on Narrator with Control+Windows+Enter, read the secure screen window, and do what it says.
-
Can't you also activate the "Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens (requires administrator privileges)" button in NVDA Settings, General to make NVDA speak when UAC comes up?

I'm virtually certain there's a way to make NVDA speak on secure screens, and with a quick look at settings, I believe that's it.  You may have to also have the checkbox for using NVDA during sign-in, but I'm not certain about that, either.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: NVDA failed to install

Luke Davis
 

Arlene wrote:

Yes, that’s what I do. I turn it off. Then once I install the program I want. Then I turn it back on and put it to 65 or whatever it is I have it at.
This is utterly baffling to me. Why in the world would you do that?

It is so much more work than just selecting yes, or pressing Alt+Y, at the periodic UAC prompt while installing something.

If you have NVDA set to run on secure screens (NVDA General settings), the dialogs will speak normally, and you can interact with them just fine.

Luke


Re: NVDA failed to install

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:10 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Since you don't seem to be aware of this: when Windows needs higher security permissions than your user has, it brings up a UAC (User Account Control) prompt. That prompt runs as the system administrative user. It's what NVDA calls a "secure screen".
-
Luke,

The following is hair-splitting, but I think it's important for users to understand exactly what's going on.  The vast majority of us who have a single user on a given machine have one that has administrative privilege.  But even if you do, things that actually require that privilege to be active will trigger UAC, because even accounts that have admin privilege are expected to grant its use consciously in more recent versions of Windows.  At one time, that wasn't the case, and if you did something that required admin privilege and were using an account that had admin privilege, it would just run.

Much of the reason for UAC is the way malware of various forms work, particularly as far as trying to install something.  It is possible to accidentally kick off a malware install you had no intention of actually doing, and when UAC prompts and you don't even recognize the thing it's prompting for, you just refuse to allow the changes to be made to your machine.  I once, a long time ago, had UAC save my bacon in precisely that way, and am thankful for it, as the "trouble" of having to confirm I wish to allow changes to be made to my machine by an installer I kicked off is just minimal.

You are correct, though, that if you happen to be running as a standard user, once UAC gets involved you will have to present credentials for another account that has administrative privilege before you can have any installer proceed.  And I use standard user accounts specifically to make it well-nigh impossible for users who have them to install anything or change any settings that are not user associated.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


Re: Old versions of add-ons

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I admit it's been a while since I looked at the site, but last time I
did there was a short list of currently unsupported addons that work
with older versions on the NVDA website, but I can't remember where
that was and I think it was only voices. I remember seeing SVox Pico
there, which I used briefly several years ago.

On 6/1/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
That's good.  If that isn't well known, it should probably be publicized.

I keep old versions of add-ons I use in case they disappear.  Its nice
to know they are still available.

Gene
Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory
<https://nvda-addons.org/>(hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA
Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer
compatible with the latest version of NVDA.  When you search they tell
you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1,
that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's
beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or
accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman







Re: NVDA failed to install

Luke Davis
 

Howard Traxler wrote:

I didn't hear anything about UAC nor a yes or no question.  Maybe an alt y at the time of lockup will do it.  I'll give it a try.
But you did. It's not locking up, it's opening a UAC prompt, which is a secure screen.

Either press Alt+Y, or turn on Narrator with Control+Windows+Enter, read the secure screen window, and do what it says.

Since you don't seem to be aware of this: when Windows needs higher security permissions than your user has, it brings up a UAC (User Account Control) prompt. That prompt runs as the system administrative user. It's what NVDA calls a "secure screen".
Since that is a different user then the one you're running as, that other user isn't running NVDA. That's why it doesn't talk, and you think it's locking up. But it's not locking up, it just isn't talking.

You either need to be able to handle that screen on auto-pilot, by pressing Alt+Y, or you need to enter a password for an admin level account, which probably requires speech to be successful at this stage. To get speech, you either have to install NVDA and have it run on secure screens (a chicken and egg problem in this case), or you need to run Narrator in the admin user account as I described.

You should try to finish installing NVDA before updating Windows, in case that isn't obvious.

Luke


Re: NVDA failed to install

Arlene
 

Yes, if it hasn’t been used for years. Then its missing windows updates.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: June 1, 2022 2:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA failed to install

 

But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong. 

Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

 

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information

read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

 

Gene

 

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

> Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she

> seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your

> instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it

> done.

> Howard

> On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

>> If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then

>> Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long

>> time indeed.

>> 

>> I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on

>> what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is

>> the latest:

>> */Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update

>> Using the Windows ISO file/*

>> <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>

>> or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page

>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>,

>> and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

>> 

>> Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows

>> 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version

>> 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.

>> --

>> 

>> Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

>> 

>> */Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand

>> another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing

>> or accepting them./*

>> 

>>         ~ Joshua Liebman

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA failed to install

Arlene
 

Yes, that’s what I do. I turn it off. Then once I install the program I want. Then I turn it back on and put it to 65 or whatever it is I have it at.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: June 1, 2022 2:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA failed to install

 

Hi

 

 

If you do not want the UAC screen to come up when installing nvda and

some other programs he will need to do the following.

 

Press the windows key and in the search box type uac it should come up

with a suggestion press the enter key on it.

 

The next screen that comes up you will need to Tab until you hear the

slider it is set to 65 percent or around there change it to zero with

the arrow keys left or right then tab down to ok then press the enter key.

 

 

It will reboot the pc if I remember right and the uac screen will not

come up again. It can be turned back on by doing the same process except

in the slider change from zero back to 65 percent or what ever it is.

 

hope it helps.

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 2/06/2022 9:04 am, Gene wrote:

> But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong.

> Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

> Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information

> read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

> Gene

> On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

>> Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she

>> seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your

>> instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get

>> it done.

>> 

>> Howard

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

>>> If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then

>>> Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long

>>> time indeed.

>>> 

>>> I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on

>>> what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is

>>> the latest:

>>> */Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update

>>> Using the Windows ISO file/*

>>> <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>

>>> or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page

>>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>,

>>> and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

>>> 

>>> Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows

>>> 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version

>>> 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.

>>> --

>>> 

>>> Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

>>> 

>>> */Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand

>>> another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing

>>> or accepting them./*

>>> 

>>>         ~ Joshua Liebman

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

Yes.  I'm talking about doing that and typing in the windows start search menu, which is where you will be

I'm suggesting you do what I suggest first.  You don't know if the computer isn't downloading updates.  If you check, you will know.  I'm not saying you shouldn't do other things if there is a problem but you don't know yet. 

You are showing the old version of Windows because the computer hasn't finished updating itself.  That doesn't mean there is anything wrong.  You said the computer hasn't been used for a number of years.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 4:28 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

OK Gene, when you say start menu, are you refering to what happens when I press the windows key and get a search box?  I think that's what folks are calling the start menu.

I've got a few things to try right now; so I'm fixed for a while. I'm using the media creation tool to make an thunb drive update media.  When it's done, I'll take it downstairs and see if it updates the computer.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
-- 

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman






















Re: NVDA failed to install

Howard Traxler
 

OK Gene, when you say start menu, are you refering to what happens when I press the windows key and get a search box?  I think that's what folks are calling the start menu.

I've got a few things to try right now; so I'm fixed for a while. I'm using the media creation tool to make an thunb drive update media.  When it's done, I'll take it downstairs and see if it updates the computer.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman









Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

I really object to disabling UAC.  While it can be defeated by some malware, I don't know how much, I see no reason to disable a layer of protection when all you have to do is issue the command alt y when UAC comes up.  Why disable a security utility when it is so easy to allow programs to be installed?  You are decreasing security for no advantage that means anything.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 4:12 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


If you do not want the UAC screen to come up when installing nvda and some other programs he will need to do the following.

Press the windows key and in the search box type uac it should come up with a suggestion press the enter key on it.

The next screen that comes up you will need to Tab until you hear the slider it is set to 65 percent or around there change it to zero with the arrow keys left or right then tab down to ok then press the enter key.


It will reboot the pc if I remember right and the uac screen will not come up again. It can be turned back on by doing the same process except in the slider change from zero back to 65 percent or what ever it is.

hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 2/06/2022 9:04 am, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
-- 

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman





















Re: NVDA failed to install

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If you do not want the UAC screen to come up when installing nvda and some other programs he will need to do the following.

Press the windows key and in the search box type uac it should come up with a suggestion press the enter key on it.

The next screen that comes up you will need to Tab until you hear the slider it is set to 65 percent or around there change it to zero with the arrow keys left or right then tab down to ok then press the enter key.


It will reboot the pc if I remember right and the uac screen will not come up again. It can be turned back on by doing the same process except in the slider change from zero back to 65 percent or what ever it is.

hope it helps.


Gene nz

On 2/06/2022 9:04 am, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman









Re: NVDA failed to install

Gene
 

But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong.  Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter.  Let the information read.  If you don't hear anything about updates, let us know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman





Re: NVDA failed to install

Howard Traxler
 

Thank you, yes.  This was a computer in my wife's play room which she seldom used; not for two or three years.  I will look at your instructions and see which way is easiest.  And hopefully I can get it done.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file/* <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>, and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them./*

        ~ Joshua Liebman

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